Pat Buchanan: Are Japan and Israel fascistic for not allowing Muslim immigration?

[kahless]

An establishment unhinged
Pat Buchanan: Are Japan and Israel fascistic for not allowing Muslim immigration?
http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/an-establishment-unhinged/#q4REQ0Ko6TcAc1hk.99


The Constitution protects freedom of religion for U.S. citizens. But citizens of foreign lands have no constitutional right to migrate. And federal law gives a president broad powers in deciding who comes and who does not, especially in wartime.

In 1924, Congress restricted immigration from Asia, reduced the numbers coming from southern and Central Europe, and produced a 40-year moratorium on most immigration into the United States.

Its authors and President Coolidge wanted ours to remain a nation whose primary religious and ethnic ties were to Europe, not Africa or Asia.

Under FDR, Truman and JFK, this was the law of the land.

Did this represent 40 years of fascism?

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Set aside al-Qaida, ISIS and their sympathizers. Among the 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide are untold millions of followers of the Prophet who pray for the coming of a day when Shariah is universal and the infidels, i.e., everyone else, are either converted or subjugated.

In nations where Muslims are already huge majorities, where are the Jews? Where have all the Christians gone?

With ethnic and sectarian wars raging in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Yemen, Libya, Nigeria and Somalia, why would we bring into our own country people from all sides of these murderous conflicts?

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In some countries of the Muslim world, Americans who embrace “Hollywood values” regarding abortion, adultery and homosexuality can get their heads chopped off as quickly as converts to Christianity.

In what Muslim countries does Earl Warren’s interpretation of the First Amendment – about any and all religious presence being banned in public schools and all religions being treated equally – apply?

When is the next “Crusade for Christ” coming to Saudi Arabia?

Japan has no immigration from the Muslim world, nor does Israel, which declares itself a Jewish state. Are they also fascistic?

President Obama and the guilt-besotted West often bawl their apologies for the horrors of the Crusades that liberated Jerusalem.

Anyone heard Muslim rulers lately apologizing for Saladin, who butchered Christians to take Jerusalem back, or for Suleiman the Magnificent, who conquered the Christian Balkans rampaging through Hungary all the way to the gates of Vienna?

[William R]

Pat Buchanan is a national treasure.

[DFF]

Pat Buchanan is a national treasure.

Agreed. And I believe many new Pat Buchnans are coming in the near future.

[wizardwatson]

Set aside al-Qaida, ISIS and their sympathizers. Among the 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide are untold millions of followers of the Prophet who pray for the coming of a day when Shariah is universal and the infidels, i.e., everyone else, are either converted or subjugated.

Really, Pat?

I actually agree with him as far as what's "legal" and acceptable in war. The issue is that it's the same state that WON'T stop immigration that is responsible for the creation of the monster we're a-scared of. The fear-mongering being used to push the narrative into xenophobia is a much smaller overall threat than the demented warmongering vampires that are leading this country and the world to ruin with their globalist, murderous agenda.

But I do think the comment that "Muslim's pray for Sharia" is a low blow, because it again takes the focus away from the evils of government and legitimizes villyfying an abstract group.

Because look. I've only read a sliver of the Koran, but eschatological end time stuff I've read over multiple religions. And if you think the Koran is the book of death and destruction you haven't read the bible.

Christians "pray" not only for destruction of the wicked but the righteous wrath and revenge of God. The Koran is filled with war, but the Bible is filled with fire and brimstone, famine, disease, plagues. Giant hailstones, insects that don't kill but torture you, and on top of this God actually lets Satan completely take over for a time. And the blood doesn't stop there. When Jesus comes back it says the blood will rise as high as a horses bridle he will kill so many, though some say this is figurative.

He's stoking that anti-Muslim rhetoric in error in my opinion. The bible has the most graphic and violent eschatology of any I've read.

[robert68]

Are Japan and Israel fascistic for not allowing Muslim immigration?
Israel? Yes.

[Sola_Fide]

The answer is yes to both.

[robert68]

"Can Muslims acquire Japanese citizenship/nationality or permanent residency?"
(http://www.turning-japanese.info/2013/10/can-muslims-acquire-japanese.html)

YES...


http://i66.tinypic.com/m0m5w.jpg
Tokyo Camii Mosque. Biggest mosque in Japan.

[enhanced_deficit]

Comedy of Politics.

Netanyahu condemns Trump’s Muslim ban (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?486439-Netanyahu-condemns-Trump%E2%80%99s-Muslim-ban&)

[seapilot]

Really, Pat?

The bible has the most graphic and violent eschatology of any I've read.

Agree that the bible is graphic and violent. The difference is its finished not to be repeated, where the Q uran is open ended. Jesus did not tell people to kill non believers.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[Sola_Fide]

Really, Pat?

I actually agree with him as far as what's "legal" and acceptable in war. The issue is that it's the same state that WON'T stop immigration that is responsible for the creation of the monster we're a-scared of. The fear-mongering being used to push the narrative into xenophobia is a much smaller overall threat than the demented warmongering vampires that are leading this country and the world to ruin with their globalist, murderous agenda.

But I do think the comment that "Muslim's pray for Sharia" is a low blow, because it again takes the focus away from the evils of government and legitimizes villyfying an abstract group.

Because look. I've only read a sliver of the Koran, but eschatological end time stuff I've read over multiple religions. And if you think the Koran is the book of death and destruction you haven't read the bible.

Christians "pray" not only for destruction of the wicked but the righteous wrath and revenge of God. The Koran is filled with war, but the Bible is filled with fire and brimstone, famine, disease, plagues. Giant hailstones, insects that don't kill but torture you, and on top of this God actually lets Satan completely take over for a time. And the blood doesn't stop there. When Jesus comes back it says the blood will rise as high as a horses bridle he will kill so many, though some say this is figurative.

He's stoking that anti-Muslim rhetoric in error in my opinion. The bible has the most graphic and violent eschatology of any I've read.

The difference is that the Bible says:


Romans 12:19

Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord.


There is wrath and judgement for wicked men, but it is God's to repay, not man's.

This is not the case with the Quran.

[dillo]

If you ascribe to the notion that the war on terror counts as granting the president wartime powers then you open the door than much worse situations.

[Danke]

"Can Muslims acquire Japanese citizenship/nationality or permanent residency?"
(http://www.turning-japanese.info/2013/10/can-muslims-acquire-japanese.html)
http://i66.tinypic.com/m0m5w.jpg

Residency and citizenship are two different things.

[TheTexan]

Japan has no immigration from the Muslim world, nor does Israel, which declares itself a Jewish state. Are they also fascistic?

Fascist is such an ugly word.

I prefer National Socialist. Much less negative connotation.

[Philmanoman]

Since when was the United States the same as Israel or Japan?

[alucard13mm]

Japanese school girls will have to watch out... considering the rape going on in sweden and germany.

Cool.. lets import muslims into japan so they too can experience what we experience in regards to terrorism. Yeah. Lets make them be like australia, canada, usa, uk, france and other diverse countries... dont fuck with japan and mah anime.

[The Gold Standard]

The answer is yes to both, even if you disregard the immigration issue.

[Ronin Truth]

Yes, they both are, but that's not the reason.

[robert68]

Agree that the bible is graphic and violent. The difference is its finished not to be repeated, where the Q uran is open ended. Jesus did not tell people to kill non believers.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

But:


Matthew 5:17-20 (KJV)
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

[Zippyjuan]

Agreed. And I believe many new Pat Buchnans are coming in the near future.

God, I hope not. He would have us in even more wars. He doesn't worry about using facts to make his claims either. In this case, the Japanese claim is wrong. For one, there is no place to indicate religion on a visa application.

http://www.turning-japanese.info/2013/10/can-muslims-acquire-japanese.html


Unfortunately, the point they're arguing about — whether the Japanese government and its laws and its Constitution, restrict immigration on the basis of religion (Islam) — is entirely false. Enumerated below are sample points from the post which are most related to the topics this site covers:

"Japan is the only nation that does not give citizenship to Muslims."

Absolutely false. In fact, there's a contributing author to this web site who was Muslim at the time of application. There is no place anywhere on the written application where one specifies their religion or creed. Nor have I read anywhere about anyone being asked about their religious beliefs in the verbal interviews.

Because there is no place on the written online application for one's religion, the Ministry of Justice can't publish statistics showing the religions (or races) of naturalization candidates; they can only publish sex and former nationality statistics.


There is no way to tell if one is Muslim or not by looking at a Japanese visa application as there is no place to indicate one's religious beliefs. However, it is a fact that Japan grants visas all the time to people from countries whose: state religion is Muslim, is an Islamic republic, or who the majority of the population identifies as Muslim.

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/in-japan-nervous-muslims-condemn-islamic-state-1422932241


In Japan, Nervous Muslims Condemn Islamic State

TOKYO—Muslim religious leaders here have condemned the terrorist group responsible for the apparent killing of Japanese hostages amid concerns that their small but growing community may become a target for public anger.

The response from Muslim leaders follows a two-week hostage drama that riveted Japan and prompted debate about Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s security policy.

Hostile comments against Islam and Muslims have emerged on Japanese social media since the first hostage video was released Jan. 20. One right-wing group held a rally in Tokyo on Thursday to protest the government’s relaxation of immigration rules.

“If we invite workers from Muslim nations in the future, given their doctrine, we may see a clash more tragic than what they are experiencing in Europe,” a group affiliated with Zaitokukai, a high-profile national organization, said on its website.

Organizers of the rally didn’t respond to requests for comment.

Police departments nationwide have been ordered on high alert for possible harassment or attacks against Muslims and their religious facilities, as well as the embassies of majority-Muslim nations.

The Muslim population in Japan is tiny but growing because of an influx of students and workers. Hirofumi Tanada, a Waseda University professor and an expert on Muslim communities, estimates the number at about 130,000, compared with roughly 60,000 in 2000.

Indonesians make up the largest group, followed by people from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Iran and Turkey.

Still, the total is just 0.1% or so of Japan’s population. In the U.S., the figure is less than 0.8%, and in France, 7.5%, according to the Pew Research Center.

Muslim leaders in Japan say they are on the watch after the Sunday release of a video purportedly showing the beheading of Japanese journalist Kenji Goto. An earlier video showed another hostage, Haruna Yukawa, meeting a similar fate.

“This type of action by [Islamic State] is not a Muslim action. We don’t know who they are, what they are planning and what they are thinking,” said Saeed Mughal, a representative of Islamic Circle of Japan, a group overseeing five mosques in the Tokyo area. “We condemn their action and we stand with our Japanese brothers.”

Representatives of a handful of mosques from across Japan, who met in Tokyo on Sunday to discuss the hostage crisis, issued a statement asking media not to call the terrorist group Islamic State (“Isuramu-koku” in Japanese), saying that name “breeds misunderstanding of peaceful Islam and serious prejudice” against Muslims in Japan.

“The latest hostage-taking has probably reinforced the stereotype that Muslims are violent and aggressive people,” said Shigeru Shimoyama, a Japanese Muslim who serves as a spokesman for Tokyo Camii, Japan’s largest mosque in central Tokyo. Its membership has more than doubled over the past decade.

Meanwhile, tourism from Muslim nations is growing. Tokyo’s international airports now have prayer rooms for Muslims. Halal restaurants are popping up to meet their dietary needs.

The government of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, in preparation of the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo, set a goal of increasing the number of foreign visitors to Japan and eased visa requirements for visitors from nations including Malaysia and Indonesia.

The number of Indonesian visitors has grown 56% over the past two years to 158,700 in 2014, according to Japanese government figures.

[Sola_Fide]

But:

What does that verse have to do with earthly violence?