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enhanced_deficit
12-08-2015, 11:06 PM
Opinion surveys suggest that there has been rise of anti-Black, anti-Muslim, anti-Immigrant sentiment in America under Obama Presidency compared to Bush Presidency, do you find such reports to be true?
If so, why do you think is that happening especially considering Obama was supposed to heal the nation/world because of his diverse racial/religious heritage?

To the untrained eye, it seems that reasons include:
- Obama/his handlers/media owners divisive race card plays selectively, exploiting of wedge issues for political benefits
- Obama's poor leadership in in representing all demographics in America
- Iraqi Freedom blowback
- SWC team's disastrous foreign policy, allowing of violent Jihdists groups to grow with the blessing or under dictates of anti-Iran/Russian Saudi-Zionists masters alliance
- Resulting atmosphere of fears/divisions, protectionist/collectivist defense mechanisms going up coupled with some historic collectivist attitudes of public



Obama is going down as the most polarizing POTUS in US history, only 9% of Republicans approve of job he is doing:

http://content.gallup.com/origin/gallupinc/GallupSpaces/Production/Cms/POLL/8negjp-7dky2f1j1_1ycww.png

http://www.gallup.com/poll/181490/ob...polarized.aspx (http://www.gallup.com/poll/181490/obama-approval-ratings-historically-polarized.aspx)

Beck: Race relations under Obama are worse since 1960s ( Caution graphic language)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSIw_COEIs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSIw_COEIs

Fears rise over growing anti-Muslim feeling in U.S.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-muslims-view-idUSTRE68B1O920100912

Obama Blasts ‘Un-American,’ ‘Anti-Immigrant’ Sentiment Rising in American Politics
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/14/obama-blasts-un-american-anti-immigrant-sentiment-rising-in-american-politics/

cajuncocoa
12-08-2015, 11:40 PM
I'm no fan of Obama, but I'd trust Glenn Beck to know delusional when he sees it. He has lots of experience.

CPUd
12-08-2015, 11:58 PM
If true, it is because of people like the OP (the Donald Trump of RPFs) who cultivate it.

idiom
12-09-2015, 12:23 AM
In the 60's cities were on fucking fire and black and white politicians were being put in jail en masse and being shot.

Race relations are at a better point than they have ever been.

Relations between citizens and the police are a different matter.

Schifference
12-09-2015, 12:28 AM
I have two teenagers and they have very diverse friends. Race nor sexual orientation seems to be a factor.

enhanced_deficit
12-09-2015, 12:58 AM
I have two teenagers and they have very diverse friends. Race nor sexual orientation seems to be a factor.


In the 60's cities were on fucking fire and black and white politicians were being put in jail en masse and being shot.

Race relations are at a better point than they have ever been.

Relations between citizens and the police are a different matter.


I'm no fan of Obama, but I'd trust Glenn Beck to know delusional when he sees it. He has lots of experience.

I would concede that Beck is an swcb*g and should have used different source.

Poll: Race Relations Have Taken a Nosedive Under Obama

Daniel Davis | Jul 25, 2015

http://media.townhall.com/townhall/reu/ha/2015/121/0ad37626-145c-4e37-8e25-40b94962feba.jpg

President Obama will leave many poor legacies behind: a bad deal with Iran, a massive national debt, the rise of ISIS, and an army of liberal federal judges, just to name a few. But the one positive legacy we might have hoped for -- indeed, that seemed quite promising during his 2008 campaign -- has also taken a turn for the worst. Under the president's watch, race relations have soured on a national scale.
According to a New York Times/CBS News poll (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/24/us/poll-shows-most-americans-think-race-relations-are-bad.html?_r=1), six in ten Americans think that race relations are generally bad, and four in ten think they are getting worse. What's most striking is that majorities of both black and white respondents said race relations were poor.

For some perspective, race relations were considerably better (http://hotair.com/archives/2014/08/26/poll-race-relations-were-better-under-bush/) under President George W. Bush.

But over the next seven years, that number slowly but steadily went down, and in 2014 it began to plummet. Between April 2014 and April 2015, those with a positive outlook on race relations fell from 59 percent to 34 percent. Thirty-eight percent say race relations are getting worse, and 39 percent say they are staying the same. Only 21 percent think race relations are improving.


Considering the race-related events that have transpired in the last year or so, it's easy to understand this rise in pessimism. First there was the death of Michael Brown, a hotly contested incident in which no evidence could be produced for an indictment of the police officer. That led to street riots and the burning of a portion of Ferguson, Missouri. Then there was the death of Eric Garner, who died needlessly at the hands of overaggressive New York policemen. Then there was Freddie Gray, who died in Baltimore after being arrested by a mix of African-American and white police. That resulted in riots that wrought billions of dollars in damage to Baltimore. And then there was the Charleston church shooting, an act of overt and unquestionable racism -- yet, interestingly, one that resulted no racial retaliation but rather in Christian forgiveness and a great deal of reconciliation. Not to mention, the removal of the rebel flag from state grounds.
These events are not all the same -- they had different causes and different reasons for happening. Yet they all help to paint one sad picture: that race relations in America have deteriorated to a depressing state.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/danieldavis/2015/07/25/republicans-push-to-defund-planned-parenthood-n2029908



If true, it is because of people like the OP (the Donald Trump of RPFs) who cultivate it.

Are you upset over Netanyahu-Ben Carson marriage thread?

Ex-Netanyahu Chief Of Staff Joins Ben Carson's Campaign (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?486387-Ex-Netanyahu-Chief-Of-Staff-Joins-Ben-Carson-s-Campaign&)

Trump: "You won't see another black president for generations" because Obama was so bad (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?485784-Trump-quot-You-won-t-see-another-black-president-for-generations-quot-because-Obama-was-so-bad/page2&)

phill4paul
12-09-2015, 01:02 AM
Is there a "anti-white male" option? I didn't see that listed.

enhanced_deficit
12-09-2015, 01:06 AM
Is there a "anti-white male" option? I didn't see that listed.

Not at this time.

But this Q reminded of other news:

OPINION: Trump channeling white male anger
Richard Whitmire December 9, 2015
http://www.dailyrecord.com/story/opinion/2015/12/09/trump-channeling-white-male-anger/76982534/

LibertyEagle
12-09-2015, 01:49 AM
Why are you using the leftist tactic of conflating the ILLEGAL ALIEN INVASION of our country with "immigration"? Shame on you.

enhanced_deficit
12-09-2015, 09:25 AM
LE, I see your point and that was not intention. It was a general broad question that perhaps could been made more precise but limited space in MCQ poll options.
Btw, in which category new immigrants from Syria/Iraq/Somalia etc fall that Obama policy is allowing into the US?

Ronin Truth
12-09-2015, 10:46 AM
Fourth Turning?

nayjevin
12-09-2015, 11:18 AM
Under Obama police are being scrutinized for brutality and all the networks are playing up the race card. So you have Beck, who probably doesn't care one way or the other, but knowing his audience, blaming Obama for the perception of poor race relations that results from 'race' being talked about more.

nayjevin
12-09-2015, 11:19 AM
Why are you using the leftist tactic of conflating the ILLEGAL ALIEN INVASION of our country with "immigration"? Shame on you.

Do you really believe it's the law that makes it moral/immoral? Aren't there laws that should be broken, like Rosa Parks?

Zippyjuan
12-09-2015, 11:44 AM
Noting that the racism is coming from those who do not like Obama. It has always been there, it has just become more vocal with a black president.

enhanced_deficit
12-09-2015, 10:06 PM
Noting that the racism is coming from those who do not like Obama. It has always been there, it has just become more vocal with a black president.

In other words, SWC Obama did nothing to contribute to this atmosphere and it is all due to GOP/his political opponents being racists, did I get your view right?

r3volution 3.0
12-09-2015, 10:32 PM
...because the GOP pretends to represent the opposition

...but doesn't really oppose any important aspect of the Democratic program

...nor offer any positive alternative

...and so has to promote mindless tribal hatreds to keep the voters coming out.

puppetmaster
12-09-2015, 10:58 PM
Do you really believe it's the law that makes it moral/immoral? Aren't there laws that should be broken, like Rosa Parks? I believe it is immoral to destroy this country with unbridled immigration and illegal immigrants

r3volution 3.0
12-09-2015, 11:04 PM
I believe it is immoral to destroy this country with unbridled immigration and illegal immigrants

What if the destroyer of the country is, and has always been, native born people voting for socialism?

...what then?

Zippyjuan
12-10-2015, 12:48 PM
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/feb/01/news/la-pn-ron-paul-nevada-latino-forum-20120201

Ron Paul says Latinos have become 'scapegoats'


"I believe Hispanics have been used as scapegoats, to say, they're the problem instead of being a symptom maybe of a problem with the welfare state," Paul told the group. "In Nazi Germany they had to have scapegoats to blame and they turned on the Jews.

"Now there's a lot of antagonism and resentment turned just automatically on immigrants," he continued. "You say, no not immigrants, it's just illegal immigrants. I do believe in legal immigration. I want to have a provision to obey those laws. You have to understand this in the context of the economy."

Paul said he's not one of those politicians who believes that "barbed-wire fences and guns on our border will solve any of our problems." That's not, he said, the American way. And he doesn't think that a national identification card is the way to go.

Dianne
12-10-2015, 01:11 PM
Rise of anti-Black, anti-Muslim, anti-Immigrant sentiment in America under Obama, why?

Probably because we don't like, nor trust Obama and he happens to be all three of the above, black, muslim, and immigrant.

Zippyjuan
12-10-2015, 05:58 PM
Rise of anti-Black, anti-Muslim, anti-Immigrant sentiment in America under Obama, why?

Probably because we don't like, nor trust Obama and he happens to be all three of the above, black, muslim, and immigrant.

Well, half of one of those three anyways. He is half black. The other two? No.

enhanced_deficit
12-11-2015, 11:12 AM
Rise of anti-Black, anti-Muslim, anti-Immigrant sentiment in America under Obama, why?

Probably because we don't like, nor trust Obama and he happens to be all three of the above, black, muslim, and immigrant.


Well, half of one of those three anyways. He is half black. The other two? No.


http://overpassesforamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/trump-tweet2.png





54% of GOP Believe 'Deep Down' Obama Is a Muslim (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?472016-54-of-GOP-Believe-Deep-Down-Obama-Is-a-Muslim-Only-45-of-Dems-Believe-Obama-Is-Christian&)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ndKhl_Ird-Y/VeYCnNHvlWI/AAAAAAAAifo/EcVmzk1L52o/s1600/PPP%2B-%2BObama%2BMuslim%2BResults%2B-%2BBirtherReport%2Bop.png

http://images.thehollywoodgossip.com/iu/s--YXo4VLjz--/t_full/f_auto,fl_lossy,q_75/v1386937602/attachment/trump-tweet-insane.png



Trump has been leading GOP polls for months now perhaps because of such rhetoric.

Zippyjuan
12-11-2015, 12:22 PM
More examples of racist, uninformed responses to Obama. Thanks for sharing. Republicans can't believe he could possibly be a Christian American. He could not possibly actually be more like them. He is the enemy! Trump plays on the voter's ignorance and feeds it.

puppetmaster
12-12-2015, 06:09 AM
What if the destroyer of the country is, and has always been, native born people voting for socialism?

...what then? That too would be immoral. This country can and may be destroyed with many different attackes. We certainly can die by a 1000 cuts.

enhanced_deficit
12-13-2015, 12:23 PM
More examples of racist, uninformed responses to Obama. Thanks for sharing. Republicans can't believe he could possibly be a Christian American. He could not possibly actually be more like them. ..

EM.
Even though Obama had claimed on national TV that he was a Christian, many Republicans continue to think that "he lies".


http://cdn.nomblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Obama-SSM-2008.jpg



Also, trust in DGP's masters is very low for sizeable population.

Zippyjuan
12-13-2015, 03:45 PM
EM.
Even though Obama had claimed on national TV that he was a Christian, many Republicans continue to think that "he lies".


http://cdn.nomblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Obama-SSM-2008.jpg



Also, trust in DGP's masters is very low for sizeable population.

He could say the sky is blue and some would say he is lying.

thoughtomator
12-13-2015, 03:49 PM
EM.
Even though Obama had claimed on national TV that he was a Christian, many Republicans continue to think that "he lies".


http://cdn.nomblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Obama-SSM-2008.jpg



Also, trust in DGP's masters is very low for sizeable population.

Obama has also said the words "My Muslim faith" which is something none of us have ever heard a non-Muslim say. And given that his relatives all seem to follow Islam and Obama has a record of ordering that crosses be covered up at locations where he gives speeches, and his policies have been universally pro-Islam, it isn't a stretch to assume that he's a Muslim faking being a Christian for political purposes.

Zippyjuan
12-13-2015, 04:36 PM
ordering that crosses be covered up at locations where he gives speeches,

Details on that event- like most events, they covered up all logos in the background for a "cleaner" backdrop:


Georgetown University spokeswoman Julie Green Bataille: In coordinating the logistical arrangements for yesterday’s event, Georgetown honored the White House staff’s request to cover all of the Georgetown University signage and symbols behind Gaston Hall stage.

The White House wanted a simple backdrop of flags and pipe and drape for the speech, consistent with what they’ve done for other policy speeches. Frankly, the pipe and drape wasn’t high enough by itself to fully cover the IHS and cross above the GU seal and it seemed most respectful to have them covered so as not to be seen out of context.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Jesus-Missing-From-Obamas-Georgetown-Speech.html

It wasn't a cross either.


The White House asked Georgetown to cover a monogram symbolizing Jesus' name in Gaston Hall, which Obama used for his speech, according to CNSNews.com.

The gold "IHS" monogram inscribed on a pediment in the hall was covered over by a piece of black-painted plywood, and remained covered over the next day, CNSNews.com reported.

Muslims are not anti- Jesus. They consider him one of the greatest prophets.

http://www.islam-guide.com/ch3-10.htm


What Do Muslims Believe about Jesus?

Muslims respect and revere Jesus (peace be upon him). They consider him one of the greatest of God’s messengers to mankind. The Quran confirms his virgin birth, and a chapter of the Quran is entitled ‘Maryam’ (Mary). The Quran describes the birth of Jesus as follows:


(Remember) when the angels said, “O Mary, God gives you good news of a word from Him (God), whose name is the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, revered in this world and the Hereafter, and one of those brought near (to God). He will speak to the people from his cradle and as a man, and he is of the righteous.” She said, “My Lord, how can I have a child when no mortal has touched me?” He said, “So (it will be). God creates what He wills. If He decrees a thing, He says to it only, ‘Be!’ and it is.” (Quran, 3:45-47)

Jesus was born miraculously by the command of God, the same command that had brought Adam into being with neither a father nor a mother. God has said:


The case of Jesus with God is like the case of Adam. He created him from dust, and then He said to him, “Be!” and he came into being. (Quran, 3:59)

During his prophetic mission, Jesus performed many miracles. God tells us that Jesus said:


“I have come to you with a sign from your Lord. I make for you the shape of a bird out of clay, I breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by God’s permission. I heal the blind from birth and the leper. And I bring the dead to life by God’s permission. And I tell you what you eat and what you store in your houses....” (Quran, 3:49)

Muslims believe that Jesus was not crucified. It was the plan of Jesus’ enemies to crucify him, but God saved him and raised him up to Him. And the likeness of Jesus was put over another man. Jesus’ enemies took this man and crucified him, thinking that he was Jesus. God has said:


...They said, “We killed the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of God.” They did not kill him, nor did they crucify him, but the likeness of him was put on another man (and they killed that man)... (Quran, 4:157)


Neither Muhammad nor Jesus came to change the basic doctrine of the belief in one God, brought by earlier prophets, but rather to confirm and renew it.1

kahless
12-13-2015, 07:16 PM
If the question was, "Rise of anti-Black ghetto culture, anti-Muslim religion and anti-immigration sentiment in America under Obama, why?"

I would say it is because people want to make America great again.

Influenza
12-13-2015, 07:45 PM
Obama has also said the words "My Muslim faith" which is something none of us have ever heard a non-Muslim say. And given that his relatives all seem to follow Islam and Obama has a record of ordering that crosses be covered up at locations where he gives speeches, and his policies have been universally pro-Islam, it isn't a stretch to assume that he's a Muslim faking being a Christian for political purposes.

Droning Muslims all over the middle east and africa, supporting Israel's right to "self defense" by illegally blockading the Gaza strip and continue illegal settlement building.... Hmm, yea those sound like some pro-Islam policies.