ron paul on the militia, big guns, and switzerland

[atilla]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3MB_rmUgH5o

thanks to all the folks who helped me figure out how to clip this video.

[krott5333]

that girl is smoking hot

[Scott Wilson]

Switzerland is indeed a wonderful country.

Crime is practically non-existent and yet most households have a state issued firearm. I like how the people have to vote on new laws every few months when they get their referendum letter in the mail. Very few laws are passed each year in Switzerland.

A very clean and quiet society.

[atilla]

here is something on immigration policy in ron paul's favorite foreign country:

http://www.escapeartist.com/efam/48/...itzerland.html (http://www.escapeartist.com/efam/48/Retire_in_Switzerland.html)

Never for a minute did I consider living in Switzerland without authorization. I had heard stories about unauthorized people who had been shocked when the Alien Police banged on their door at midnight and escorted them to the airport. All the Swiss laws are geared towards knowing who lives where. At first I had thought that was a bit like a police state, or at the very least an infringement on privacy. But the longer I lived in Switzerland and experienced the orderliness, the safety and the security, I grew to believe that it is better to know who lives in the country, than to not have a clue.

I had been in Switzerland long enough to know that they don’t just have laws, they actually enforce them, so I was taking no chances. In any case, the Residence/Work Permit is required to rent an apartment, get a bank account, buy a car, get a library card, and just about everything necessary to live somewhere.

Because the social benefits in Switzerland are so generous, and the rates of taxation are so low, many people would love to migrate to Switzerland. For instance, after working only six months in Switzerland, everyone is entitled to unemployment benefits of up to CHF 97,200 per year (at this writing, equivalent of $75,000 per year) for 540 days.

To maintain the high level of benefits for Swiss citizens and residents, who have contributed to the state system, the Swiss are very particular about who lives in their country.

[samtechlan]

The three most important things about Switzerland from a liberty perspective:

1. They are non-interventionist.

2. Highly decentralized with a long tradition of local control (Read "state's rights" in an american context).

3. The right of armed self-defense is recognized.

Dr. Paul is 100% correct in praising that great nation.

One more thing, the current govt there is taking a strong stand against illegal immigration. All that and great watches too.

[Scott Wilson]

It was quite funny when I arrived at Zurich airport in late 2004. Customs was closed and I walked right through without having to show my passport to anyone. It was the weirdest thing. Maybe they close customs at off peak times.

I did meet several American's and Australian's in the country who were their illegally after overstaying their visas. They were working cash jobs I believe.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

that girl is smoking hot

high maintenance

[Richandler]

I always knew Switzerland to be ally to no one but I never knew how great it really was. That's pretty cool to look up information about the country.

That just might be one of the first countries I'll have to visit when I go to Europe some day. States rights all the way.

Btw that girl didn't give a crap about what he was saying.

[Richie]

Recently, there have been efforts to get Switzerland to join the EU.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland#Switzerland_and_the_European_Union

[ColinCohen]

The Swiss are also friends with everyone, even Muslim countries -- in spite of the fact that they earn a signficant portion of their revenue through the collection of interest and have a cross on their flag.

[Richandler]

Recently, there have been efforts to get Switzerland to join the EU.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland#Switzerland_and_the_European_Union

"The Swiss have also been under EU and sometimes international pressure to reduce banking secrecy and to raise tax rates to parity with the European Union."

That is why they never should. The EU was formed only for the forming a srong centralize power in the world and nothing more. I hope Switzerland always stays neutral. No entangling allainces.

Another quote as to why they shouldn't join:
"The Swiss franc is one of the world's soundest currencies" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Switzerland

[SeanEdwards]

I posted back in July:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=67119

Our country could learn a lot from Switzerland.

[SeanEdwards]

It was quite funny when I arrived at Zurich airport in late 2004. Customs was closed and I walked right through without having to show my passport to anyone. It was the weirdest thing. Maybe they close customs at off peak times.

I did meet several American's and Australian's in the country who were their illegally after overstaying their visas. They were working cash jobs I believe.

Years ago I got to live in Switzerland as part of work exchange deal. I was interested in finding about legal differences in the country. So I found the Swiss federal police website and looked around. I couldn't find what I was looking for, the website mainly seemed devoted to recovering a stolen lamp.

That's right, the official website of Swiss federal police, on it's main page, had a big notice and reward offer for a stolen lamp.

That should give you some sense of the level of criminal activity in Switzerland.

[krott5333]

Years ago I got to live in Switzerland as part of work exchange deal. I was interested in finding about legal differences in the country. So I found the Swiss federal police website and looked around. I couldn't find what I was looking for, the website mainly seemed devoted to recovering a stolen lamp.

That's right, the official website of Swiss federal police, on it's main page, had a big notice and reward offer for a stolen lamp.

That should give you some sense of the level of criminal activity in Switzerland.

HAHAHAHHAA thats hilarious

[xao]

here is something on immigration policy in ron paul's favorite foreign country:

http://www.escapeartist.com/efam/48/...itzerland.html (http://www.escapeartist.com/efam/48/Retire_in_Switzerland.html)

Never for a minute did I consider living in Switzerland without authorization. I had heard stories about unauthorized people who had been shocked when the Alien Police banged on their door at midnight and escorted them to the airport. All the Swiss laws are geared towards knowing who lives where. At first I had thought that was a bit like a police state, or at the very least an infringement on privacy. But the longer I lived in Switzerland and experienced the orderliness, the safety and the security, I grew to believe that it is better to know who lives in the country, than to not have a clue.

I had been in Switzerland long enough to know that they don’t just have laws, they actually enforce them, so I was taking no chances. In any case, the Residence/Work Permit is required to rent an apartment, get a bank account, buy a car, get a library card, and just about everything necessary to live somewhere.

Because the social benefits in Switzerland are so generous, and the rates of taxation are so low, many people would love to migrate to Switzerland. For instance, after working only six months in Switzerland, everyone is entitled to unemployment benefits of up to CHF 97,200 per year (at this writing, equivalent of $75,000 per year) for 540 days.

To maintain the high level of benefits for Swiss citizens and residents, who have contributed to the state system, the Swiss are very particular about who lives in their country.

This is for NEW immigrants. They don't actually go door to door for actual ethnic swiss-german and italian citizens.

Any third world leech trying to fleece the country is usually givin the boot. If they didn't do this, they'd end up with pure socialism and welfare state, like we have in the u.s. now.

[xao]

Btw that girl didn't give a crap about what he was saying.


Maybe i'm wrong but she seemed to be very interested in ron himself. Probably fascinated her that he was an obgyn.

[atilla]

Maybe i'm wrong but she seemed to be very interested in ron himself. Probably fascinated her that he was an obgyn.

dr. paul, before you go, i've got something i'd like you to look at, if you wouldn't mind.;)

[Richandler]

Maybe i'm wrong but she seemed to be very interested in ron himself. Probably fascinated her that he was an obgyn.

She wasn't even looking at him and saying uh-huh to every thing like someone who is doing an uninterested interview.

[runderwo]

The Swiss have a very compelling decentralized, market-based approach to universal healthcare too. I think it is a model to consider emulating.

http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/Switzerland.pdf