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gpickett00
12-06-2007, 04:39 PM
Yesterday a Mass Donation Day for Mike, organized solely by supporters, was held. We're still tallying the results, but an early count shows we raised over $10,000.

rooteroa
12-06-2007, 04:40 PM
lol

AggieforPaul
12-06-2007, 04:40 PM
I think gravel's a principled guy and all, but I dont think this has any place on an RP site.

Adamsa
12-06-2007, 04:41 PM
Supporters of Kucinich and Gravel should unite behind Ron, he is the closest thing to acceptable that has a chance of winning to them.

Danny Molina
12-06-2007, 04:41 PM
Poor Mike. Good luck with that.

kylejack
12-06-2007, 04:41 PM
I dig him.

sirachman
12-06-2007, 04:41 PM
I'm sorry, but is this serious?

BIG_J
12-06-2007, 04:42 PM
I hope you guys unite behind Ron. I think it would be a big thing for your movement and ours.

hellah10
12-06-2007, 04:42 PM
i like gravel...my favorite democrat

gpickett00
12-06-2007, 04:44 PM
Yeah, they sent it to everyone who gets Gravels emails. I still get them for some reason. Its kind of funny how optimistic they are about everything.

mmink15
12-06-2007, 04:44 PM
I also like Mike Gravel although I'm a Ron Paul supporter, I find it shocking that the three candidates focused on constitution(Gravel, Kucinich, Paul) are seen as the crazies.

happyphilter
12-06-2007, 04:45 PM
Yeah I really like gravel too, but he dosent have the grass roots RP does.

ursamajor
12-06-2007, 04:46 PM
I like Mike (Gravel) also. Lord knows I am not going to call a candidate crazy, but he definitely speaks a bit more abrasively than fits my taste. I am constantly amazed at how well Ron Paul keeps his cool in the face of stupidity, ignorance and bias.

ne1buthilary
12-06-2007, 04:47 PM
I also respect Gravel. Most honest dem in the race imo.

Cindy
12-06-2007, 04:48 PM
I also like Mike Gravel although I'm a Ron Paul supporter, I find it shocking that the three candidates focused on constitution(Gravel, Kucinich, Paul) are seen as the crazies.

Why is that a shocker. The FBI is teaching Police officers that people who refer to the U.S. Constitution a lot are domestic terrorist suspects.

This is no lie.

Anyone have that pamphlet link handy?

Forefall
12-06-2007, 04:52 PM
Come on, guys, don't hate on Gravel. They're probably saying the same things about us in the Clinton/Obama camps about us, and we wouldn't like that - don't be a hypocrite ;| We should be classier than that!

Revolutn
12-06-2007, 04:52 PM
Why is that a shocker. The FBI is teaching Police officers that people who refer to the U.S. Constitution a lot are domestic terrorist suspects.

This is no lie.

Anyone have that pamphlet link handy?

http://www.infowars.com/Images/fbi_flyer.jpg

http://www.infowars.com/Images/fbi_flyer2.jpg

AFM
12-06-2007, 04:58 PM
I think that is more referring to the wackjobs who run around screaming "MY RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED OH MY GOD THIS IS WORLD WAR IV WE ARE ALL SLAVES" and they hug the constitution all night

quickmike
12-06-2007, 05:02 PM
Good for him. Thats 10 grand he didnt have before. Hes not a bad guy really, although I disagree with some of his socialist ideas. I hope he pays off his debts with the cash and doesnt come out in debt when its all over.

Now go back down to the lake Mike and throw some more rocks in the water.:D

Revolutn
12-06-2007, 05:04 PM
I think that is more referring to the wackjobs who run around screaming "MY RIGHTS ARE BEING VIOLATED OH MY GOD THIS IS WORLD WAR IV WE ARE ALL SLAVES" and they hug the constitution all night

Uh I think it means what it SAYS.

Defenders of the Constitution against the Federal Government and UN.

Attempt to police the police.

Make frequent references to the Constitution.




And it fu@king pisses me off!


If that makes me a terrorist, so be it, I'm glad to stand in the company of such terrorists as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, et el.

Rev

InRonWeTrust
12-06-2007, 05:05 PM
I like Mike.

LinearChaos
12-06-2007, 05:05 PM
10k?

I guess Gravel's support of World Government and the NWO isn't resonating with the People....

Richie
12-06-2007, 05:40 PM
10k?

I guess Gravel's support of World Government and the NWO isn't resonating with the People....

QTF.

Zarxrax
12-06-2007, 06:03 PM
You know, I don't really understand whats up with Gravel and Kucinich. I mean, I think they are both great, principled candidates, and people seem to like them a lot. I disagree with their socialistic policies, but I support them as much as I can support a democrat.

Particularly with kucinich, he has a huge buzz about him on the internet. Supporters all over the place. But the support for these guys hasn't translated into the real world. What's up with that? With Ron Paul, the support most definitely has translated into the real world, but those two guys are just losing really badly. Do democratic voters just want a woman or a black guy so badly, that they don't really care about the issues or the integrity of their candidate? And why the hell is Edwards doing so well? No one liked him when he served here in NC, but when he runs for president, suddenly it's like hes such a great guy. It all just blows my mind.

FunkBuddha
12-06-2007, 06:06 PM
Hey, he doubled what Obama brought in!!!

InRonWeTrust
12-06-2007, 06:55 PM
Maybe Ron can appoint Gravel to a cabinet position?

Secretary of Defense? :)

AFM
12-06-2007, 07:31 PM
Uh I think it means what it SAYS.

Defenders of the Constitution against the Federal Government and UN.

Attempt to police the police.

Make frequent references to the Constitution.




And it fu@king pisses me off!


If that makes me a terrorist, so be it, I'm glad to stand in the company of such terrorists as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, et el.

Rev

It has defenders in quotes.

Jason T
12-06-2007, 08:40 PM
Both Mike and Dennis are principled and have good ideas, however I don't think they'd have as an successful presidency as Ron.

Besides, I don't think people can fathom how great it will be when President Paul puts an end to neo-conservatism. If Gravel or Kucinich became president, the neo-cons would only get stronger.

jgmaynard
12-06-2007, 08:46 PM
$10,000........... Doesn't that double Gravel's fundraising for the year? ;) jk.

Mike is my favorite Dem, but he really stands no chance at all.... Ron is up to "underdog" now. I bet it would make news if Gravel dropped and endorsed Paul. It might peeve off some Reps, but it would probably help with independents in NH.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jgmaynard/underdog.jpg

JM

mmink15
12-07-2007, 12:24 PM
Uh I think it means what it SAYS.

Defenders of the Constitution against the Federal Government and UN.

Attempt to police the police.

Make frequent references to the Constitution.




And it fu@king pisses me off!


If that makes me a terrorist, so be it, I'm glad to stand in the company of such terrorists as George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, et el.

Rev

That's unbelievable, I'm redoubling my efforts.

Abyss19562
12-07-2007, 12:36 PM
I support both Ron Paul and Mike Gravel. They are both great guys and just what we need in this country, but Ron Paul has a much better chance of winning than Gravel could ever dream of.

NinjaPirate
12-07-2007, 12:51 PM
10k?

I guess Gravel's support of World Government and the NWO isn't resonating with the People....

What Gravel talks about is a World Governance NON-CFR style. World government BY the people FOR the people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu-OAu9hi2c

jmdrake
12-07-2007, 01:13 PM
You know, I don't really understand whats up with Gravel and Kucinich. I mean, I think they are both great, principled candidates, and people seem to like them a lot. I disagree with their socialistic policies, but I support them as much as I can support a democrat.

Particularly with kucinich, he has a huge buzz about him on the internet. Supporters all over the place. But the support for these guys hasn't translated into the real world. What's up with that? With Ron Paul, the support most definitely has translated into the real world, but those two guys are just losing really badly. Do democratic voters just want a woman or a black guy so badly, that they don't really care about the issues or the integrity of their candidate? And why the hell is Edwards doing so well? No one liked him when he served here in NC, but when he runs for president, suddenly it's like hes such a great guy. It all just blows my mind.

It's funny but the leader of the local Kucinich meetup group was recently circulating a "draft Gore" petition. :D

Gravel and Kucinich will never rise like Paul has for the following reasons.

1) They have to split the anti war vote. Not just between each other but among all of the other democratic candidates. (Yes, for some stupid reason lots of democrats seem to believe Hilary and Obama really want to withdraw troops from Iraq even though they said they wouldn't promise to do that even by 2013).

2) Many of their positions and those of their supporters are self contradictory. For instance, since Kucinich has (like Ron Paul) said he wants a new 9/11 investigation he's attacked a fair number of truthers (though less than Ron Paul). But Kucinich has been pushing for total gun control. How anyone can juggle the contradictory ideas that the government can't be trusted on 9/11 but this same government should be allowed to take away everybody's guns is beyond me. But there are other issues.

* Vaccines. Some Kucinich supporters attack Ron Paul for thinking people should have the freedom not to take vaccines or give them to their children. But if you can't trust the government.....

* FEMA. I've seen Kucinich supporters ready and willing to protest "FEMA camps". But they don't want FEMA abolished. What's the point of getting rid of the camps if you keep the organization that set them up? Besides FEMA was invented by a democrat and the camps were established under a democratic administration. So why would anyone think a "democrat" would all of a sudden make FEMA "act right"?

* Darfur. Dennis Kucinich was flat out wrong when he said "George Bush would be occupying Darfur IF it had oil.". DARFUR HAS OIL! AND LOTS OF IT! The insinuation behind DKs comment is that we need to somehow intervene in Darfur for "humanitarian reasons". But anyone with half a brain knows that the same "humanitarian" argument could have been applied to Iraq. So if one humanitarian intervention was wrong......

The bottom line is this. Ron Paul looks at the problems caused by our current government and says "We need to cut government down to size so it won't do as much harm." Dennis Kucinich looks at the same set of problems and says "We need more government in order to fix the problems that government has caused".

I don't know as much about Gravel because I haven't looked into him. I like his gruff exterior and his "take no prisoners" attitude. (Like when he said in one of the debates "I'm the only one up where with any integrity".)

Regards,

John M. Drake

Akus
12-07-2007, 01:51 PM
Poor Mike. Good luck with that.

Seriously, probably the only other candidate I'd support.