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jmdrake
11-06-2015, 08:29 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/06/team-carson-politico-story-is-an-outright-lie/

But we should trust the media because they got all those newsletter stories right. We'll see how this ultimately shakes out.

69360
11-06-2015, 09:00 PM
Carson stretched the truth big time and got caught. Maybe not a bold face lie, but he wasn't honest. I can't imagine a scenario where this doesn't hurt him. 'Muricans hate them some lies about military service.

AngryCanadian
11-06-2015, 09:05 PM
Damage control. And users on Daily Caller are actually defending that Carson idiot? i cant wait when there person losses the genereal election.

Kotin
11-06-2015, 09:07 PM
the problem I see is that whether or not hes lying or just making mistakes recalling or whatever, there have been many stories about several different purported lies so thats not great for him..

many in the media are pieces of shit.. we know that and I dont revel in this happening to him...

I just hope he isn't a serial liar as some are suggesting.. he doesnt seem like one, its just that so many of those types are drawn to run for president lol

enhanced_deficit
11-06-2015, 09:12 PM
jmdrake, do you believe Ben Carson tells the truth when he talks or he tries to cultivate an image that he thinks appeals to his audience even at the cost of the truth?

Ben Carson Stands by Characterization of President Obama as 'Anti-Semitic' (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-08-16/ben-carson-stands-by-characterization-of-president-obama-as-anti-semitic-)

Ben Carson thinks Obama is a 'psychopath' (http://www.businessinsider.com/ben-carson-dismisses-psychopath-obama-2015-3)

Carson: Obama Driven By Mein Kampf, Lenin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p7N1pvK22Y)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p7N1pvK22Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p7N1pvK22Y

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p7N1pvK22Y)https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/5e/f8/3e/5ef83eb9f9e5438f7a88fcdfac111389.jpg




Related


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xRzFL0_TRo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xRzFL0_TRo
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?484775-Ben-Carson-admits-fabricating-West-Point-scholarship&)
While answering "West Point Scholarship fabrication" questions, Carson asks Press to investigate Obama/Pastor Wright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMA0lCMtn_k#t=133
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMA0lCMtn_k#t=133

(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?484775-Ben-Carson-admits-fabricating-West-Point-scholarship&)

CaptUSA
11-06-2015, 09:16 PM
Carson stretched the truth big time and got caught. Maybe not a bold face lie, but he wasn't honest. I can't imagine a scenario where this doesn't hurt him. 'Muricans hate them some lies about military service.

Really? Like I said in the other thread, this could have been as simple as someone saying to him, "You know, if you want, we could probably get you into West Point and you wouldn't have to pay a dime."

Now, are you telling me that didn't happen? In retelling that story 40 years later, it is entirely plausible that he would have remembered thinking about that decision and deciding that while it sounded nice, his heart was in medicine.

Seriously, I think some of you folks need to stop watching and reading media. They are getting you all caught up and twisted around in nonsense. Rand was wise to defend Carson on this topic.

specsaregood
11-06-2015, 10:42 PM
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CaptUSA
11-06-2015, 10:54 PM
I don't think its the worst thing somebody has done; but there is no doubt in my mind that he knew he was exaggerating/lying about the truth of the situation. One is an actual offer and the other is the possibility of an offer. I'd be more impressed if he owned up to it.

Take away the word "probably", then. I'm pretty sure this happened and I'm pretty sure he remembered it as a likelihood if he wanted it.

Listen, this is the establishment media trying to sling mud. Rand got it the same way. The whole thing is asinine.

nikcers
11-06-2015, 11:09 PM
jmdrake, do you believe Ben Carson tells the truth when he talks or he tries to cultivate an image that he thinks appeals to his audience even at the cost of the truth?

Ben Carson Stands by Characterization of President Obama as 'Anti-Semitic' (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-08-16/ben-carson-stands-by-characterization-of-president-obama-as-anti-semitic-)

Ben Carson thinks Obama is a 'psychopath' (http://www.businessinsider.com/ben-carson-dismisses-psychopath-obama-2015-3)

Carson: Obama Driven By Mein Kampf, Lenin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p7N1pvK22Y)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p7N1pvK22Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p7N1pvK22Y

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p7N1pvK22Y)https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/5e/f8/3e/5ef83eb9f9e5438f7a88fcdfac111389.jpg


(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p7N1pvK22Y)


Either Ben Carson is a unicorn or he is an establishment populist honeypot. His whole character and political leanings are an oxymoron. The best part of this thread is using the news letters as an emotional argument that this is a perfectly comparable reason to hate the media because of their bias against "anti establishment" candidates. Hey guys look at this hit piece on Hillary, look how anti establishment she is!?

TheNewYorker
11-06-2015, 11:20 PM
The social media response I'm seeing on this from reds and blues alike seem to be pro Carson and anti politico.

I'm placing my wager now that this doesn't hurt Carson's rankings.

nikcers
11-06-2015, 11:29 PM
The social media response I'm seeing on this from reds and blues alike seem to be pro Carson and anti politico.

I'm placing my wager now that this doesn't hurt Carson's rankings.

Top post on Reddit politics right now.. I will wager now this can and will effect polls.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xRzFL0_TRo

carlton
11-07-2015, 12:35 AM
Top post on Reddit politics right now.. I will wager now this can and will effect polls.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xRzFL0_TRo

It will, he's going to poll higher now

Rudeman
11-07-2015, 01:03 AM
Politico did lie (deleted a portion of their original article) and they've lied previously (about Rand). So if I'm giving anyone the benefit of the doubt it's Carson over Politico. Also I agree with carlton that this is more likely to help Carson than hurt him.

devil21
11-07-2015, 02:58 AM
Carson is starting his Cain-esque flame out. Was Carson on a book tour until 2 days ago?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-uEHtbWm5c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9sbkoIOUKQ

jmdrake
11-07-2015, 07:29 AM
jmdrake, do you believe Ben Carson tells the truth when he talks or he tries to cultivate an image that he thinks appeals to his audience even at the cost of the truth?

Ben Carson Stands by Characterization of President Obama as 'Anti-Semitic' (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-08-16/ben-carson-stands-by-characterization-of-president-obama-as-anti-semitic-)

Ben Carson thinks Obama is a 'psychopath' (http://www.businessinsider.com/ben-carson-dismisses-psychopath-obama-2015-3)

Carson: Obama Driven By Mein Kampf, Lenin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p7N1pvK22Y)


How is any of ^that different from Rand Paul comparing Bernie Sanders to Joseph Stalin and Pol Pot? Hypocrisy much?

jmdrake
11-07-2015, 07:50 AM
FYI, Rand Paul has taken basically the same position as "team Carson" on this issue. It's a mountain out of a molehill. Probably a misunderstanding. It's no different from the media claiming Rand "lied" about having a biology degree when he actually dropped out of college and went straight to medical school. Time to stop playing the liberal media's "gotcha" games for them folks and get back on message. Rand does a stupendous job of doing that by pointing out how Marco Rubio's foreign policy is neocon just like Hillary Clinton's foreign policy right in front of a bunch of Hillary Clinton (and Bernie Sanders) supporters! That is how you win a GOP primary people. Find a way to link your opponents to the most likely democratic challenger and attack both at the same time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iVx1WrpD-U

Ronin Truth
11-07-2015, 07:59 AM
Is ANYONE really surprised? :p :rolleyes:

When does Politico get sicced on Hillary? <rhetorical question>

Lucille
11-07-2015, 11:06 AM
http://wendymcelroy.com/news.php?extend.6805


From Breitbart: Politico Edits Ben Carson Hit Piece, Drops Claims of ‘Fabrication’ [Ed: the double standard by which the mainstream media approaches Carson v. Obama is jaw dropping.]

It really is.