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enjerth
12-06-2007, 03:13 PM
Last quarter, Clinton raised more than anyone else for the primary elections with over $22 million. I don't know what kind of shape she's in for this quarter, but if it's anything like the previous quarter, we are within reach of beating her in this quarter.

With nearly $11 million today and a strong money bomb of $6-8 million, with some good momentum we could raise an additional $5 million by the end of the month. We could reach around $22-24 million. Imagine the news if Ron Paul's 4th quarter is equal to or greater than Hillary's 3rd quarter. And how much bigger it would be if Paul beat her 4th quarter, as well!

Make no mistake, we'd have to push even harder to turn around $5 million before and after spending ourselves on the 16th, even pushing till it hurts and then some. I would suggest that everyone who can should donate regularly $25 to $100 per week in addition to the Tea Party. Excluding one-time bombs, at best we give around $1 million per week. But with under 4 weeks left, we'd need to give $1.5 million per week on top of the millions on the 16th.

Beating the top presidential contender at fund-raising would be the sweetest thing short of winning the primaries and the election, and could give us a VERY good push in that direction.

Should we do it? Can we do it? Promotional ideas, anyone? Maybe the official campaign can get people energized towards this goal with a simple email to all Ron Paul supporters.

AgentPaul001
12-06-2007, 03:16 PM
I really doubt Hillary will once again raise anywhere close to $22 Million, just like Guliani most of her contributors are maxed out. Combine that with the media watching her "funky" financing and I will be shocked if she hits $20 Million~ again.

If we have a good Tea Party with $6+ Million then I think we might just be able to do it, to raise the most of any canidate would be incredible.

Forefall
12-06-2007, 03:17 PM
I just don't think our supporters have that kind of dough on us at the moment... we might be close to Hillary, though, and that is saying a lot!

LoveLiberty
12-06-2007, 03:22 PM
Give all you can, as early on the 16th as you can, and the rest will follow.

AlexMerced
12-06-2007, 03:24 PM
I wn't be surprised if this is one becomes the best 4th quarter for any candidate ever

FreeTraveler
12-06-2007, 03:26 PM
I wn't be surprised if this is one becomes the best 4th quarter for any candidate ever

Do we know how much we'd have to have to do that?

ashlux
12-06-2007, 03:27 PM
It's entirely likely RP wll beat Hillary in Q4.

Here's an email from her campaign sent on Dec 5th:


I promised Hillary that we would meet the $1.25 million fundraising goal she set for this week. I know $1.25 million sounds like a lot, but our opponents are ready to spend every last nickel they have to defeat our campaign. It's not going to get any easier. We have to be ready to respond.


It's a reasonably assumption, I think, that $1.25m a week is below what they've averaged in Q4 so far. Her campaign has nothing to gain by touting a mere $1.25m in a week.

Here's my prediction based on this email:

* Clinton's campaign has raised no more than $11.25m (and probably around $9m)
* Clinton's campaign will raise no more than $16.25m in Q4

sirachman
12-06-2007, 03:28 PM
I'm just wondering how long our record will hold :D

ashlux
12-06-2007, 03:29 PM
Here's an email from her campaign sent on Dec 5th

Interestingly, I got a second email about the $1.25m goal today, but this time from Wes Clark.

Elwar
12-06-2007, 03:30 PM
If we're close to $12 on Dec. 16th and we raise $6 million we'll have $18 million.

That would probably inspire a push to hit $20 million by the end of the quarter.

A $20 million quarter is huge no matter how you try to spin it.

If all of the front runners are in the 20s...then Ron Paul will have to be included in any coverage. If they're in the 20s and Ron Paul gets 19...then they'll ignore him.

wfd40
12-06-2007, 03:31 PM
whens that banker guys 40,000 contacts going to start chipping in???

voytechs
12-06-2007, 03:32 PM
Its very possible she'll drop below $20mil this quarter and we may end up beating her easily, without the extra push.

In any case, you can't compare her bribe money with our legit small contributor donations. Apples and oranges.

FreedomLover
12-06-2007, 03:32 PM
Do we know how much we'd have to have to do that?

If we're talking about quarters in non-election years, the record was set by president bush in 2003: 50 million dollars between July 1 and Sept. 30, 2003.

Of course, that primary was uncontested. I know Obama raised 33 million dollars a couple months ago...

AlexMerced
12-06-2007, 03:33 PM
If we're close to $12 on Dec. 16th and we raise $6 million we'll have $18 million.

That would probably inspire a push to hit $20 million by the end of the quarter.

A $20 million quarter is huge no matter how you try to spin it.

If all of the front runners are in the 20s...then Ron Paul will have to be included in any coverage. If they're in the 20s and Ron Paul gets 19...then they'll ignore him.

20 would dfientley be more than anyone else is gonna have

derdy
12-06-2007, 03:35 PM
This thread just reminded me of this movie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txUIq2O3wPE

:D

kotetu
12-06-2007, 03:37 PM
Everyone should do everything they can to max out on the 16th. if 32000 people maxed out we'd hit $73,600,000 in one day. Is that good enough for you to be willing to may some interest on a credit card for a year? :D

mosquitobite
12-06-2007, 03:38 PM
Do we know how much we'd have to have to do that?

No. Most of the other campaigns only report their finances when the FEC requires it.

Dr Paul was the lone wolf in showing his real time support! (I think some others have now copied, right?)

ashlux
12-06-2007, 03:42 PM
I just wanted to give a short and inspiring story:

I introduced one co-worker to RP around the first debate. He has been planning on voting for RP ever since. He hasn't been particularly active in his support, but he wants to make a difference on Dec 16 and make his first donation (yay!).

I'm suspect he's not alone.

Voluntaryist
12-06-2007, 03:46 PM
QUESTION: Is the $2300 individual limit a quarterly limit, a yearly limit, or a limit for the entire length of the campaign?

(sorry for the dumb question)

kotetu
12-06-2007, 03:48 PM
$2300 for Primary election and $2300 for Presidential election. This is the individual limit, so you and your spouse (if you are married) can each donate this much.

DealzOnWheelz
12-06-2007, 03:58 PM
I just don't think our supporters have that kind of dough on us at the moment... we might be close to Hillary, though, and that is saying a lot!

post that on hillarys board or gulianis


we got this


We can afford to donate only 2% of us are maxed

WE CAN DO IT

TechnoGuyRob
12-06-2007, 04:03 PM
Do we know how much we'd have to have to do that?

At least $40 million, because that's what Bush filed in Q4.

RevolutionSD
12-06-2007, 04:04 PM
I'm donating $200 on the 16th.

fortilite
12-06-2007, 04:05 PM
I'll probably double what I donated for 11/30. But I definitely can't afford to max out.