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tsai3904
10-31-2015, 10:45 AM
Trump support in district alarming for Massie

U.S. Congressman Thomas Massie is not particularly pleased to see Kentuckians who support him are also supporting Donald Trump’s run for President.

He said at a Young Professionals Association luncheon Friday this comparison is “sobering” to him as a politician.

He was asked if he was “comfortable” with the idea of Trump as a future President of the United States, which he immediately shut down.

“Donald Trump is a big middle finger to Washington, D.C.,” Massie said. “I understand. I have to be careful because the guy is polling at 30 plus percent and in the Fourth District, Donald Trump supporters are my supporters.”

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http://www.dailyindependent.com/news/trump-support-in-district-alarming-for-massie/article_9508cb94-7f7d-11e5-b683-5b8802e7290f.html

Brian4Liberty
10-31-2015, 12:43 PM
One word explanation: immigration.

helmuth_hubener
10-31-2015, 12:44 PM
One word explanation: immigration.

Exactly. For liberty to survive, the country has to be demographically capable of supporting liberty.

Sola_Fide
10-31-2015, 01:42 PM
Exactly. For liberty to survive, the country has to be demographically capable of supporting liberty.

That sounds a lot like saving the free market by abandoning it.

helmuth_hubener
10-31-2015, 03:28 PM
That sounds a lot like saving the free market by abandoning it.

I see what you mean, but I am actually nowhere suggesting an anti-liberty, rights-violating solution. Search my posts. I am simply saying there's a problem. A massive influx of millions of people who, when surveyed, say they support bigger government at over 80% rates, that is a problem. I am just trying to get rational people (like yourself, for instance) to acknowledge that it's a problem.

As of now, we are sticking our heads in the sand as libertarians. Every pro-immigration person just says "immigration is terrific, there's no problem with immigration." No, there are very serious problems with certain types of immigration. Like, for instance, the type that in the US we have now and on a huge scale. I am just looking for someone, anyone, to be rational to acknowledge the problem. So far no one has.

Once we agree that half of Mexico moving up here is a problem, then we can discuss solutions. It's like drugs: just because you acknowledge there's a problem doesn't mean that the solution is to have the State shoot people and ban things and lock millions in cages. But if you just say "Oh, meth is fine. Doing meth doesn't actually cause any problem. Meth is just a chemical. We're a nation of chemicals," then anyone who with a rationally anti-drug-addiction position is going to look at you like you have three heads.

LatinsforPaul
10-31-2015, 03:42 PM
Love this quote...


“I know a lot of people who are going to vote for Rand Paul for president who say Trump is their second choice. They couldn’t be more different in terms of substance. One (Rand) is all about substance and the other (Trump) is nothing about substance. It concerns me,” Massie said

Valli6
10-31-2015, 05:12 PM
Well, this is the part that struck me:


“I’m thinking, ‘Wow, the American public really seems to like these Libertarian ideas,’ and then Donald Trump runs and he gets all of their (Rand Paul and Ron Paul) voters, he gets all of my voters. I’m thinking, ‘No, they’re just voting for the craziest guy in the race,’” he said and the audience laughed. “It was very sobering for me. I’m that guy.”