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Brian4Liberty
10-30-2015, 09:44 AM
How good is Cruz's tax plan? His team had the benefit of first seeing the Rand Paul plan (and Trump plan), and working from there. How did they do?



The Simple Flat Tax (http://www.tedcruz.org/tax_plan/)
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Summary
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Under the Simple Flat Tax, the current seven rates of personal income tax will collapse into a single low rate of 10 percent. For a family of four, the first $36,000 will be tax-free. The Child Tax Credit will remain in place, and the Simple Flat Tax Plan expands and modernizes the Earned Income Tax Credit with greater anti-fraud and pro-marriage reforms. As a result, the Simple Flat Tax will ensure that low- and middle-income Americans have greater opportunities – not only through minimal taxes, but also through better, high-paying jobs that the Simple Flat Tax will generate. Under the plan, deductions for charitable contributions and mortgage interest payments are preserved.

The IRS will cease to exist as we know it, there will be zero targeting of individuals based on their faith or political beliefs, and there will be no way for thousands of agents to manipulate the system.

For businesses, the corporate income tax will be eliminated. It will be replaced by a simple Business Flat Tax at a single 16 percent rate. The current payroll tax system will be abolished, while maintaining full funding for Social Security and Medicare.

The convoluted tax code will be replaced with new rules of the game – so simple, in fact, that individuals and families could file their taxes on a postcard or phone app. The Death Tax will be eliminated. The Alternative Minimum Tax will be eliminated. The tax on profits earned abroad will be eliminated. And of course, the Obamacare taxes will be eliminated. Also gone will be the unending loopholes in the current code, the stacks of depreciation schedules for businesses, and the multi-tiered rates on income and investments. Under the Simple Flat Tax, the Internet remains free from taxes.
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Of the 84,000 IRS employees roughly half (48 percent) work on “Examinations and Collections”; roughly another quarter (23 percent) work on “Filing and Account Services.” Under the Simple Flat Tax, with Americans filing taxes on a postcard, we will need vastly fewer examiners, collectors, filers and account servicers. Some resources – like those devoted to Obamacare’s taxes, or the Death Tax, or the code’s countless loopholes – can be totally eliminated. In other words, we will be able to redirect the energies of the 1200 full-time IRS employees currently devoted to Obamacare, and save the $386 million that the IRS spent last year on Obamacare alone.
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Repeals the corporate income tax, with the highest top rate among developed nations, and stops driving jobs and business overseas. By replacing the corporate income tax with a Business Flat Tax, jobs and growth will return to American soil, and a chronic source of temptation to tinker with the tax code through corporate loopholes will be eliminated.
Allows for full and immediate expensing of business equipment, which will remove the burdens imposed by the current system on heavy industry, mining, energy, farming, ranching, and manufacturing.
• Removes the current tax penalty on American businesses that earn profits abroad, encouraging those businesses to bring profits home. Businesses will flock to America rather than keep money abroad or move overseas to escape high tax rates – and jobs and growth will come home with them. Under the Simple Flat Tax, U.S. businesses could return their overseas profits to American soil for a one-time 10 percent repatriation fee.
Eliminates a current competitive disadvantage for American products through border adjustability: foreign imports will be subject to the Business Flat Tax and American exports will have the tax removed, giving U.S. businesses a level playing field.

Provides Opportunity for Everyone:

Spares citizens from hundreds of wasted hours and expenses in tax compliance – Americans will instead be able to file their taxes on a postcard or a phone app.
Ensures that low- and middle-income Americans have the opportunity to build their wealth and prosper by exempting the first $36,000 of income for a family of four.
Allows for automation of compliance. Instead of having individuals report every detail about dividend or interest income, for example, banks, brokers, and financial institutions would simply withhold the tax.
Eliminates the injustice and burdens of the Death Tax, the Alternative Minimum Tax, and the Obamacare taxes. Family farms and businesses can stay in the family.
Enables Americans to save up to $25,000 annually tax-deferred in the Universal Savings Accounts (USA), allowing them to begin a nest-egg and secure their future and that of their children.

The Cruz Simple Flat Tax Features

The Simple Flat Tax eliminates the old convoluted system, creates one low rate for all individuals, and imposes a single, fair rate on businesses. Through its simplicity, the Simple Flat Tax ignites powerful economic growth, and promises an historic boom that will reduce the power of Washington and return prosperity to the people.

Personal Income Tax: 10 Percent

The current seven-tiered income-tax rates for individuals will collapse into a single, low rate: 10 percent. The standard deduction will be $10,000. The personal exemption will be $4,000. For a family of four, the first $36,000 will be tax-free. The Child Tax Credit will remain in place, as will the Earned Income Tax Credit. Existing deductions for charitable contributions and mortgage interest payments are preserved.

Payroll Tax: Eliminated

The Simple Flat Tax will eliminate the payroll tax, boosting jobs and wages for working Americans, while guaranteeing funding for Social Security and Medicare. The vast majority of Americans pay more in payroll taxes than in income taxes. Eliminating the payroll tax altogether will create an enormous incentive for job growth. The Simple Flat Tax is estimated to create an additional 4.86 million new jobs over 10 years, with wages rising by 12.2 percent over the same period – stunning numbers that evidence the growth-producing power of these reforms.

Corporate Income Tax: Eliminated; Business Flat Tax: 16 Percent

The corporate income tax – the source of endless waste and fraud in our tax system – will be eliminated. No longer will American businesses face the highest top tax rate, 35 percent, in the developed world. The trend of American companies and jobs moving off-shore will stop. Instead, all companies will pay a simple, low rate Business Flat Tax of 16 percent. The tax will be based on revenues minus expenses such as equipment, computers, and other business investments.

Universal Savings Accounts (USA)

Universal Savings Accounts will create a new tool for Americans to achieve personal prosperity: $25,000 annually can be saved on a tax-deferred basis, and can be used for any purpose, allowing families to save and build for their future.

Death Tax: Eliminated

This unjust tax will be totally eliminated. Time and money wasted on an industry of lawyers and accountants to minimize taxes will be diverted to productive uses. Small family businesses and farms that would have been sold in order to pay the Death Tax will be spared and family businesses will stay in the family.
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More: http://www.tedcruz.org/tax_plan/

Brian4Liberty
10-30-2015, 09:47 AM
Under the plan, deductions for charitable contributions and mortgage interest payments are preserved.

It appears that banking/mortgage/housing industries still get their crony deductions.

Brian4Liberty
10-30-2015, 09:53 AM
Corporate Income Tax: Eliminated; Business Flat Tax: 16 Percent

The corporate income tax – the source of endless waste and fraud in our tax system – will be eliminated. No longer will American businesses face the highest top tax rate, 35 percent, in the developed world. The trend of American companies and jobs moving off-shore will stop. Instead, all companies will pay a simple, low rate Business Flat Tax of 16 percent. The tax will be based on revenues minus expenses such as equipment, computers, and other business investments.

So, this is a profits tax?

The essential unfairness of having a separate code for individuals vs. corporations still seems to exist in the Cruz plan. How long will the business tax/accounting code be that determines what are valid expenses and investments to be deducted? Will this be another very long and incomprehensible set of tax code that is filled with crony and special interest favors?

The extremely wealthy often use corporations to shield their wealth. It seems that with this plan, they will continue to do so.

How much tax will the Clinton Foundation pay after they deduct their "qualified" expenses and investments?

Krugminator2
10-30-2015, 10:17 AM
It is roughly the same plan. Apparently getting advised by Laffer, Moore, etc is the thing to do. Both plans keep the mortgage deduction and child tax credit. Both eliminate payroll and inheritance tax. Capital gains is same rate as personal rate.

The business tax is a VAT in both. The tax rate is lower on personal income but the exemption is lower as well. He adds a retirement account that lets you defer more income than a 401k than all the different plans except a SEP. That is the biggest difference.

Brian4Liberty
10-30-2015, 11:43 AM
It is roughly the same plan. Apparently getting advised by Laffer, Moore, etc is the thing to do. Both plans keep the mortgage deduction and child tax credit. Both eliminate payroll and inheritance tax. Capital gains is same rate as personal rate.

The business tax is a VAT in both. The tax rate is lower on personal income but the exemption is lower as well. He adds a retirement account that lets you defer more income than a 401k than all the different plans except a SEP. That is the biggest difference.

The big difference is that Rand's plan has the same rates for individuals and business. That is the big advantage that Rand's plan has over both the Trump and Crux plans. Trump and Cruz still benefit the extremely wealthy over the average individual.

From Rand's plan:


So I am announcing an over $2 trillion tax cut that would repeal the entire IRS tax code—more than 70,000 pages—and replace it with a low, broad-based tax of 14.5% on individuals and businesses. I would eliminate nearly every special-interest loophole. The plan also eliminates the payroll tax on workers and several federal taxes outright, including gift and estate taxes, telephone taxes, and all duties and tariffs. I call this “The Fair and Flat Tax.”

erowe1
10-30-2015, 11:46 AM
Looks good to me.

The challenge now is to present a balanced budget. Rand could make some waves by doing that. And Cruz would risk alienating people if he cuts the wrong things.

specsaregood
10-30-2015, 11:51 AM
Cruz is like that annoying guy on Price is right that always bids 1 dollar over the highest bid.

erowe1
10-30-2015, 11:51 AM
Cruz is like that annoying guy on Price is right that always bids 1 dollar over the highest bid.

That's what I would do.

specsaregood
10-30-2015, 11:52 AM
Looks good to me.

The challenge now is to present a balanced budget. Rand could make some waves by doing that. And Cruz would risk alienating people if he cuts the wrong things.

You mean he could make waves by doing that AGAIN? Because he's done that, in a few different ways pretty much every year he has been up there.

erowe1
10-30-2015, 11:56 AM
You mean he could make waves by doing that AGAIN? Because he's done that, in a few different ways pretty much every year he has been up there.

Has he presented one as part of his presidential campaign?

Zippyjuan
10-30-2015, 01:58 PM
One analysis:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/30/upshot/fact-checking-republicans-on-tax-plans.html?_r=0


He noted his just-announced tax plan involves “the lowest personal rate any candidate up here has.” That’s true: his plan calls for a 10 percent flat personal income tax rate. But that’s not where his plan gets most of its tax revenue.

The biggest tax in his plan is a 16 percent value added tax. Mr. Cruz describes this tax as a “business flat tax,” but it’s not a tax on business profits. Businesses would pay the tax on their total sales, minus the cost of the things they bought to produce the thing they sold. They would not be able to deduct wages, meaning they would pay the 16 percent tax on an amount far greater than their profits. The Tax Foundation estimates this tax would generate $25 trillion in revenue over a decade, making it about six times bigger than the existing corporate income tax, which Mr. Cruz would repeal, and more than twice as big as his proposed personal income tax.

Added up across the whole economy, Mr. Cruz’s VAT would be equivalent to a very broadly based sales tax, applying even to services like health care that are ordinarily exempt from sales taxes. Like a sales tax, this tax would be built into prices and paid by consumers — and for many lower-income households, it would be a far greater burden than the income tax.

Basically, the Cruz plan is a large VAT with a small income tax on top. His plan is very similar to Rand Paul’s tax plan, which I wrote about in June. Both Mr. Cruz and Mr. Paul have chosen to identify their VATs as “business” taxes, obscuring the fact that consumers would ultimately pay it. The main difference is that Mr. Paul leans a little more on income tax and Mr. Cruz leans a little more on the VAT.

That increase in corporate taxation will be passed on to consumers with higher prices- more than offsetting reductions in income taxes.

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/10/29/3717404/ted-cruz-tax-plan/


While the Tax Foundation’s analysis finds it would cut taxes by 9 percent on average, increasing after-tax income for everyone by at least 14 percent if making some big assumptions about growth, the wealthy still make out with more. The Americans in the poorest 10 percent of the income ladder would get a 15.3 percent boost under these assumptions; the 1 percent gets double that, at 34.2 percent. Without its assumptions, the plan has an even more disparate impact, boosting the poorest Americans’ income by 4.3 percent but the richest 1 percent by 29.6 percent.


Another problem for Cruz’s plan is that it would reduce tax revenues by $3.6 trillion over a decade, which only drops to $768 billion with generous assumptions about growth.

specsaregood
10-30-2015, 02:16 PM
Has he presented one as part of his presidential campaign?

you mean so cruz can take his proposal, take a dollar off of it and propose it as his own?