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Matt Collins
10-29-2015, 11:26 PM
Roll call list is here of which Senators voted to kill the filibuster:


http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=114&session=1&vote=00292

dusman
10-29-2015, 11:29 PM
I'm trying to find votes too.

nobody's_hero
10-29-2015, 11:29 PM
I don't have a roll call list but I'm sure McCain and Graham were some of the deciding votes.

Come on guys, we know this. Who else would have stabbed the GOP in the back?

Jonderdonk
10-29-2015, 11:33 PM
I don't have a roll call list but I'm sure McCain and Graham were some of the deciding votes.

Come on guys, we know this. Who else would have stabbed the GOP in the back?

I know for sure that Graham voted for cloture.

I was pleasantly surprised that Rubio voted against cloture.
And that he voted.

PaleoPaul
10-29-2015, 11:43 PM
As our an-cap friends like to say...

VOTE HARDER!

Chester Copperpot
10-29-2015, 11:46 PM
this is a political move to keep the filibuster from strengthening rands campaign... plus now he can be derided as ineffective

fr33
10-29-2015, 11:46 PM
As our an-cap friends like to say...

VOTE HARDER!

I'm so shocked. Get us the list guys, we'll send angry letters to the whole lot of them!

timosman
10-29-2015, 11:47 PM
I'm so shocked. Get us the list guys, we'll send angry letters to the whole lot of them!

Democracy at work :rolleyes:

TheNewYorker
10-29-2015, 11:49 PM
I know for sure that Graham voted for cloture.

I was pleasantly surprised that Rubio voted against cloture.
And that he voted.

RU BI OH

dusman
10-29-2015, 11:57 PM
Rand Paul - No
Tim Scott - No
Ted Cruz - No
Marco Rubio - No
Roy Blount - No
Dan Coats - No
Jerry Moran - No

That's all I have found so far, unless others heard some of the others.

ds21089
10-30-2015, 12:07 AM
Surprised he's playing the correct political move? Im not. Now he can say he voted against it. He will vote no on the bill itself as well because he knows they already have the voted to pass it. Same with Cruz

Matt Collins
10-30-2015, 12:12 AM
Surprised he's playing the correct political move? Im not. Now he can say he voted against it. He will vote no on the bill itself as well because he knows they already have the voted to pass it. Same with Cruz
Too bad more Senators aren't running for President ;-)

Rudeman
10-30-2015, 12:23 AM
Too bad more Senators aren't running for President ;-)

Graham doesn't care.

ord33
10-30-2015, 12:44 AM
Does anyone have a roll call list?

From watching I picked up some of the Republicans that voted for it. They include Lamar Alexander, Kelly Ayotte, John McCain, Mitch McConnell, John Thune, Susan Collins, and Lindsay Graham. There had to be others, but I'm not sure who they were.

Foreigner
10-30-2015, 01:56 AM
From watching I picked up some of the Republicans that voted for it. They include Lamar Alexander, Kelly Ayotte, John McCain, Mitch McConnell, John Thune, Susan Collins, and Lindsay Graham. There had to be others, but I'm not sure who they were.

Leadership and the neocons. They need their military spending, and don't give a shit about the next generation which will be bankrupted (and the future US military that will be correspondingly smaller)

jmdrake
10-30-2015, 03:37 AM
Does anyone have a roll call list?

Without seeing a list I already know how our two senators from Tennessee voted.

Liberty74
10-30-2015, 04:20 AM
So this proves Rand's argument of an "holy alliance."

RDM
10-30-2015, 04:48 AM
I know for sure that Graham voted for cloture.

I was pleasantly surprised that Rubio voted against cloture.
And that he voted.

Pleasantly surprised? Don't be. There WILL be "2 snakes in the grass" that will vote for spending when the bill comes forward.

Cruz, Rubio Vote to Increase Debt By $400 Billion; Paul, Sanders Vote No

By Michael Lotfi -
Sep 29, 2015
http://truthinmedia.com/cruz-rubio-vote-increase-debt-ceiling-paul-votes-no/

65fastback2+2
10-30-2015, 06:17 AM
So this proves Rand's argument of an "holy alliance."

unholy, but yes, proves Rand is 100% correct.

01000110
10-30-2015, 06:51 AM
My local news this morning said "Catastrophe was avoided" despite the efforts by Ted Cruz and Rand Paul to filibuster.

Media would have hammered Cruz and Rand over this had they succeeded.

It all sucks.

erowe1
10-30-2015, 07:26 AM
I don't have a roll call list but I'm sure McCain and Graham were some of the deciding votes.

Come on guys, we know this. Who else would have stabbed the GOP in the back?

Stabbed the GOP in the back? You mean done the GOP's bidding.

Rand was the one stabbing the GOP in the back. More power to him.

staerker
10-30-2015, 08:15 AM
All hail the US government! May it live forever, and may every knee bow!

Crashland
10-30-2015, 08:25 AM
The debt is one of those things that just makes my blood boil. It's straight up theft on a monumental scale. The industrial military complex and special interest groups own this country, and the politicians are corrupt pieces of shit. Times like this I want to move to Texas and secede from the union

LibertyEagle
10-30-2015, 08:29 AM
So I woke up to this. How is it wrong?
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426327/rand-paul-filibuster-20-minutes-joel-gehrke

Jan2017
10-30-2015, 08:50 AM
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=114&session=1&vote=00294



YEAs ---63


Alexander (R-TN)
Ayotte (R-NH)
Baldwin (D-WI)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennet (D-CO)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Booker (D-NJ)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Capito (R-WV)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Coons (D-DE)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Donnelly (D-IN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Hatch (R-UT)
Heinrich (D-NM)
Heitkamp (D-ND)
Hirono (D-HI)
Kaine (D-VA)
King (I-ME)
Kirk (R-IL)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Leahy (D-VT)
Manchin (D-WV)
Markey (D-MA)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Peters (D-MI)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rounds (R-SD)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schatz (D-HI)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Thune (R-SD)
Tillis (R-NC)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Warren (D-MA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)
Wyden (D-OR)




NAYs ---35


Blunt (R-MO)
Boozman (R-AR)
Burr (R-NC)
Cassidy (R-LA)
Coats (R-IN)
Corker (R-TN)
Cotton (R-AR)
Crapo (R-ID)
Cruz (R-TX)
Daines (R-MT)
Enzi (R-WY)
Ernst (R-IA)
Fischer (R-NE)
Flake (R-AZ)
Gardner (R-CO)
Grassley (R-IA)
Heller (R-NV)
Hoeven (R-ND)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (R-WI)
Lankford (R-OK)
Lee (R-UT)
Moran (R-KS)
Paul (R-KY)
Perdue (R-GA)
Portman (R-OH)
Risch (R-ID)
Rubio (R-FL)
Sasse (R-NE)
Scott (R-SC)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Sullivan (R-AK)
Toomey (R-PA)





Not Voting - 2


Murphy (D-CT)
Vitter (R-LA)

Anti Federalist
10-30-2015, 08:58 AM
All hail the US government! May it live forever, and may every knee bow!

Huzzah comrade!

sparebulb
10-30-2015, 09:02 AM
Vitter must have gotten stuck in a tight place somewhere and couldn't make it out.

It is kind of ironic:

Getting paid to screw people, while screwing the people by not being there to screw them, all the while, screwing someone.

Brian4Liberty
10-30-2015, 09:12 AM
Leadership and the neocons. They need their military spending, and don't give a shit about the next generation which will be bankrupted (and the future US military that will be correspondingly smaller)

They don't care about domestic spending either. (Unless they are being groomed for higher office and putting on a show, like Rubio and Cotton.)

Jan2017
10-30-2015, 09:12 AM
REPUBLICANS with 2016 re-election
HR 1314 (cloture vote)

YEAS


John McCain (Arizona)
Lisa Murkowski (Alaska)

--------------------------------------------
NAYS

Rand Paul (Kentucky)
Mike Lee (Utah)
Dan Coats (Indiana) retiring in 2016
Marco Rubio (Florida) retiring in 2016
Kelly Ayotte (New Hampshire)
Roy Blunt (Missouri)
John Boozman (Arkansas)
Richard Burr (North Carolina)
Mike Crapo (Idaho)
Chuck Grassley (Iowa)
John Hoeven (North Dakota)
Johnny Isakson (Georgia)
Ron Johnson (Wisconsin)
Mark Kirk (Illinois)
James Lankford (Oklahoma)
Jerry Moran (Kansas)
Rob Portman (Ohio)
Tim Scott (South Carolina)
Richard Shelby (Alabama)
John Thune (South Dakota)
Pat Toomey (Pennsylvania)

Not Voting
David Vitter (Louisiana)

65fastback2+2
10-30-2015, 09:18 AM
already posted on cornyn's social medias that he needs to resign over his stupidity.

JK/SEA
10-30-2015, 09:21 AM
So I woke up to this. How is it wrong?
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426327/rand-paul-filibuster-20-minutes-joel-gehrke

this story is about Rands 20 minute speech.

He came out later and did a one hour plus filibuster, and then they voted. I watched it.

JK/SEA
10-30-2015, 09:23 AM
''guns and butter''....the beat goes on.

''until the end''....

-Jim Morrison..

Jan2017
10-30-2015, 09:25 AM
Too bad more Senators aren't running for President ;-)

or re-election in 2016 . . . dirty dogs in Congress (79 GOP Congressman as well in House by Cruz's tally last night) should not be re-elected

nayjevin
10-30-2015, 09:33 AM
Both 'Independents' on the wrong side of the vote. LOL

ChristianAnarchist
10-30-2015, 09:39 AM
So "voting for cloture" derails the filibuster??

Crashland
10-30-2015, 09:44 AM
Bipartisan my ass, when the nays are 35-0 republicans to democrats. One side is getting everything that they want to the point where not a single democrat voted against it. Real negotiating skills right there by GOP leadership. Demand concessions from your own party only. What a joke.

RandPaul4Prez
10-30-2015, 09:47 AM
Worst of all they just gave a blank check to the military industrial complex.

JK/SEA
10-30-2015, 09:49 AM
Worst of all they just gave a blank check to the military industrial complex.


probably pay for it with cuts in domestic spending.

Jan2017
10-30-2015, 09:54 AM
So "voting for cloture" derails the filibuster??

Rand's ultimate goal was to hold back the vote so that he could introduce his amendment.



Bipartisan my ass, when the nays are 35-0 republicans to democrats. One side is getting everything that they want to the point where not a single democrat voted against it. Real negotiating skills right there by GOP leadership. Demand concessions from your own party only. What a joke.

Cruz was on point with this last night saying . . .
it was 79 Republicans (Ryan clan) joining all the Dims in the House -
he predicted all in the Senate, as it is a Dim + RINO support "must-pass" bill, as Cruz said.
also, Obama whispers "shutdown" so leadership caves

Crashland
10-30-2015, 09:56 AM
probably pay for it with cuts in domestic spending.

Pay for it with debt that other people are going to have to pay off. Wouldn't it be nice if it were legal for me to open up a credit card under someone else's name and go on a shopping spree.

cindy25
10-30-2015, 09:58 AM
35 of 53 GOP senators voted against Obama deal. so why not dump McConnell?

nobody's_hero
10-30-2015, 10:00 AM
35 of 53 GOP senators voted against Obama deal. so why not dump McConnell?

Is there a senate version of the 'motion to vacate'? lol.

Honestly there's probably some deal that some of the ones who voted 'no' were allowed to do so due to how much support they would have lost in their states.

For instance, Sen. Johnny Isakson in Georgia voted 'no' but that man has never seen a dollar he didn't want to spend.

Matt Collins
10-30-2015, 10:21 AM
So "voting for cloture" derails the filibuster??Yes, it is essentially a vote to move forward (by ending debate and closing amendments)

Matt Collins
10-30-2015, 10:21 AM
Without seeing a list I already know how our two senators from Tennessee voted.Surprisingly Bailout Bob Corker voted with Rand here... but that is only because he is about to run for Governor.

Matt Collins
10-30-2015, 10:26 AM
Vitter must have gotten stuck in a tight place somewhere and couldn't make it out.

It is kind of ironic:

Getting paid to screw people, while screwing the people by not being there to screw them, all the while, screwing someone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW27kyh7PVM