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10-27-2015, 11:51 AM
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Why Republicans keep missing the giant Benghazi scandal right before their eyes



Michael Brendan Dougherty

(http://theweek.com/authors/michael-brendan-dougherty) REUTERS/Jason Reed

October 26, 2015


It's better to be ruled by a wise Turk than a foolish Christian. That old bit of wisdom is an apocryphal quote from Martin Luther, but it was much on my mind watching the House Select Committee on Benghazi grill Hillary Clinton, as she cleverly outmanned Trey Gowdy and friends.


Sure, the committee extracted some interesting details during its 11 hours of interrogation. The most damning was that Sidney Blumenthal, the legendary fixer for the Clintons, had more direct access to the secretary of state during a crisis than America's ill-fated ambassador to Libya. He also passed on intelligence, surely none of it spoiled by his business interests.


But as a bit of political theater, it wasn't all that useful to Republicans. Diane Sawyer accidentally got more embarrassing quotes (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jun/10/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-says-she-and-bill-were-dead-broke/) from Hillary Clinton in a 20-minute puff piece last year than Republicans got in hours of sustained examination from a congressional oversight panel.


And it was political theater. A real hearing on Benghazi could be conducted in any number of ways. A particularly devastating one would just be a slideshow of photos of Benghazi as it stands today, with questions like: Why did we do this? Didn't we know we were helping Islamist terrorists? How could we not know?

And a real hearing would have included the head of the CIA at the time of the attack, former Gen. David Petraeus. A real oversight panel would have asked questions about the nature of the CIA operation in Benghazi. But that might risk revealing that the Obama administration was covertly assisting Syrian rebels — and Republicans can't have that.




The conspiracy theory that motivated so much of the early popular interest in Benghazi was crude (http://www.westernjournalism.com/exposed-obamas-muslim-brotherhoods-orchestration-arab-spring-benghazi/). It was premised on the notion that President Obama somehow prefers jihadis to America's own diplomats, and allowed them to die. This itself is a more weaponized version of the conspiracy theory that Obama is a "secret" Muslim, a Turk in the parlance of Reformation Europe.Republican leadership, most notably Mitt Romney, latched onto a different conspiracy, almost equally stupid. It held that the Obama administration was weak and retreating before Middle Eastern threats.


The truth is almost exactly the opposite of these, and far more damning of President Obama and Hillary Clinton. In looking for the "secret Turk," Republicans missed the foolish Christians in front of them. Obama wasn't being weak and retreating — he was being too clever and aggressive. The CIA operation (http://www.businessinsider.com/us-syria-heavy-weapons-jihadists-2012-10) in Benghazi was most likely a gun-running operation (http://www.businessinsider.com/the-secret-cia-mission-in-benghazi-2013-5)to Syrian rebels (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Local-News/2012/Apr-28/171738-ship-suspected-of-carrying-syria-arms-impounded.ashx), part of Obama's proxy war with Iran, the covert project he could ratchet down as part of negotiations on nuclear weapons. To investigate that would be to admit that Obama wasn't impotent in the Middle East, but reckless.


Far from being a secret Muslim who was indifferent to the death of an American diplomat, or a progressive peacenik who resents U.S. leadership, Obama was something much more destructive to the interests of Americans — he was a typical American hawk. He was different from George W. Bush only in preferring air power for aiding revolutionaries and rebels on the ground, rather than a ground invasion and think-tank conquerors like Ahmed Chalabi. The result of the policy of our foolish Christians is worse than the fever dreams of any Manchurian Mohammedan or American weakling: a continuation and intensification of the wars that are leading to the eradication of Christianity from the Middle East. ISIS is conquering territory and killing Christians with American materiel.


The fact is that the opposition party in America can't honestly investigate Obama's foreign policy without doing fatal collateral damage to its own. And so Hillary Clinton can say in public that the intervention she championed in Libya is "smart power at its best," even though that country is being terrorized by ISIS and other jihadists and is one source of the refugee crisis. The supposedly mean-spirited GOP that would do anything to attack Clinton has run into something it won't do: challenge our recklessly hawkish foreign policy.


And so we chat about what Sid Blumenthal emails Hillary Clinton, while our bipartisan consensus continues its work abetting a massive cull in the Middle East: secular dictators, Christianity, and other minority religions are all on the way out. Somewhere in hell, the world's most bloodthirsty jihadists are smiling at Trey Gowdy.




http://theweek.com/articles/584817/why-republicans-keep-missing-giant-benghazi-scandal-right-before-eyes

timosman
10-27-2015, 11:53 AM
Gowdy is DNC operative?

ghengis86
10-27-2015, 11:54 AM
It is hard to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding.

ZENemy
10-27-2015, 12:11 PM
It is hard to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding.

Exactly right.

The entire system is literally powered by theft. What incentive do they have to improve?

surf
10-28-2015, 11:48 AM
Gowdy is DNC operative?
Gowdy's a pussy. a republicratic wimp of epic proportions. he is just another tptb operative.

that entire shitshow was disgusting.

from the article
Somewhere in hell, the world's most bloodthirsty jihadists are smiling at Trey Gowdy.

devil21
10-28-2015, 02:35 PM
Gowdy is DNC operative?

Depends on how you look at it. Gowdy stumped for Jeb the other day. Does that make him a DNC operative or just an establishment stooge playing a role? Is there a difference?

timosman
10-28-2015, 02:55 PM
Depends on how you look at it. Gowdy stumped for Jeb the other day. Does that make him a DNC operative or just an establishment stooge playing a role? Is there a difference?

He is definitely not GOP, so according to the official version this makes him DNC. If you want to go down the rabbit hole maybe it is time to ask the real question:

"Who the fuck runs the show in this country?"

I am looking for actual names not TLAs.

Peace&Freedom
10-28-2015, 03:24 PM
Depends on how you look at it. Gowdy stumped for Jeb the other day. Does that make him a DNC operative or just an establishment stooge playing a role? Is there a difference?

Nope.

vita3
10-28-2015, 03:47 PM
Gowdy was sweating like a pig during his hearings.

Weston White
10-29-2015, 03:41 AM
Depends on how you look at it. Gowdy stumped for Jeb the other day. Does that make him a DNC operative or just an establishment stooge playing a role? Is there a difference?

The Bush and Clinton families are longtime associates and friends. ...Sort of like the Bush and Bin Laden families.

devil21
10-29-2015, 01:27 PM
The Bush and Clinton families are longtime associates and friends. ...Sort of like the Bush and Bin Laden families.

Oh yeah I know. Ever seen this pic before? Looks circa 1980.

http://insidegrind.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/rare-171.jpg

ghengis86
10-29-2015, 07:57 PM
Oh yeah I know. Ever seen this pic before? Looks circa 1980.

http://insidegrind.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/rare-171.jpg

Who's that shaking Papi's hand?

timosman
10-29-2015, 08:07 PM
Who's that shaking Papi's hand?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjy7yiCApAE

ghengis86
10-29-2015, 08:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjy7yiCApAE

Ok, looked familiar. Thanks. Good stuff

timosman
02-01-2018, 06:08 PM
Gowdy is DNC operative?

bump

juleswin
02-03-2018, 06:53 PM
Need to bump this thread because some non troll on this site thinks that the very real Benghazi scandal is on the same level as the phony Russiangate :rolleyes:

One of the most important lines from the article which applies to just about everything in Washington nowadays including the much hyped Nunes memo.


AND IT WAS ALL POLITICAL THEATRE

loveshiscountry
02-03-2018, 07:32 PM
Americans died in Benghazi for one reaon only. Democratic leadership was nation building by running guns to one side. The other side found out and retaliated. Blowback yet again. It wasn't the bigoted reason democratic leadership used. "A bunch of crazy muslims saw a video and rioted, that's all it took for those crazies to get unhinged, a video".

Then Hillary lied to Senator Paul during the congressional hearings when asked about the gun running. "I don't know, I'll have to get back to you on that". Odd since the State and Treasury departments names are all over it. The person who planned the gun running, Marc Turi, was called on the carpet before the Obama administration because some of the guns ended up in the hands of terrorists. Go figure.