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Danke
10-17-2015, 06:32 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irwin_Schiff

Died in Jail. He was terminally ill, but they would not release him to be with his family.


Irwin Allan Schiff (February 24, 1928 – October 16, 2015) was an American and a prominent figure in the tax honesty movement. Schiff was known for writing and promoting literature in which he claimed the United States income tax is applied incorrectly.

William Tell
10-17-2015, 06:35 PM
So sorry to hear that. :(

RJB
10-17-2015, 06:35 PM
Bummer. RIP. He was an actual hero.

Kotin
10-17-2015, 06:45 PM
Here goes an incredible man who was targeted by the elite and punished for trying to tell people the truth. This man is a true martyr but he shouldn't have had to be.

RIP Mr. Schiff. You were a good and honest man and I will always value your contribution to the world.

Fuck the Feds whom would keep this man locked up till the day he died.

angelatc
10-17-2015, 06:50 PM
Wow. He was over 80 years old, and the bastards wouldn't let him out. He should have just killed somebody. That comes with a shorter sentence.

heavenlyboy34
10-17-2015, 07:09 PM
RI.P. and memory eternal. :( :'(

RonPaulIsGreat
10-17-2015, 07:19 PM
Wow. He was over 80 years old, and the bastards wouldn't let him out. He should have just killed somebody. That comes with a shorter sentence.

Murder of normal people doesn't pose a threat to the state.

phill4paul
10-17-2015, 07:24 PM
Just heard about this. This government is SICK (and I'm not using the current slang).

No one should pass away in prison for his "sins."

This might be an example of why someone should waste and parish...

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/d0/34/Kelly%201_0.jpg?itok=Y1wUTAp1

Not what he did.

donnay
10-17-2015, 07:37 PM
R.I.P. Mr. Schiff. You are now free from these tyrants.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmpDg7TotYQ

qh4dotcom
10-17-2015, 08:15 PM
Wow. He was over 80 years old, and the bastards wouldn't let him out. He should have just killed somebody. That comes with a shorter sentence.

I hope Peter & Andrew resign their US citizenship over this.

oyarde
10-17-2015, 08:30 PM
Rest in Peace .

scrosnoe
10-17-2015, 10:29 PM
http://i1.wp.com/okgrassroots.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/irwinmafiaopt.jpg?fit=1025%2C500

It is with great sadness and a deep appreciation for the work of Irwin Schiff that I report his passing while in prison.

My condolences to Peter Schiff and family on the loss of his father Irwin. He was a true patriot fighting the tax system and federal overreach for many years.

Read more via OKGrassroots Permalink (http://okgrassroots.com/?p=555253)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D_yq6PCdYk

Video Composite from 1996 – Published on Oct 17, 2015 via Peter Schiff
Irwin Schiff at the Libertarian Presidential Convention 1996. IRS. Show me the law!

“My father, Irwin A. Schiff was born Feb. 23rd 1928, the 8th child and only of son of Jewish immigrants, who had crossed the Atlantic twenty years earlier in search of freedom. As a result of their hope and courage my father was fortunate to have been born into the freest nation in the history of the world. But when he passed away on Oct. 16th, 2105 at the age of 87, a political prisoner of that same nation, legally blind and shackled to a hospital bed in a guarded room in intensive care, the free nation he was born into had itself died years earlier.”

Danke
10-17-2015, 10:33 PM
http://i1.wp.com/okgrassroots.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/irwinmafiaopt.jpg?fit=1025%2C500

It is with great sadness and a deep appreciation for the work of Irwin Schiff that I reporting his passing while in prison.
My condolences to Peter Schiff and family on the loss of his father Irwin. He was a true patriot fighting the tax system and federal overreach for many years.


https://youtu.be/3D_yq6PCdYk

Read more via OKGrassroots Permalink (http://okgrassroots.com/?p=555253)
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Anti Federalist
10-17-2015, 10:45 PM
RIP - Another political prisoner...

phill4paul
10-17-2015, 10:45 PM
If you read this Peter, you have my condolences. You also have my affirmation that I do not pay a federal income tax.

phill4paul
10-17-2015, 11:01 PM
RIP - Another political prisoner...

..and that is all. Hope everyone else learns this lesson. Move along.

Well, fuck them. Conscientious objector going on...I dunno. Five years now? Doesn't matter. I'm done with it. "Thou shalt not steal."

Tinnuhana
10-18-2015, 01:09 AM
Someone should print up some "I am Irwin" t-shirts.
Seriously, though, my condolences to you Peter and the Schiff family and friends.

Feelgood
10-18-2015, 02:00 AM
While I would like to offer my condolences, I also have to say it was an indirect IRS issue that brought me to Ron Paul. I bought Irwin's book and followed everything stated. Years later I had the IRS after me and my boss was going to allow them to garnish my wages. I had no recourse other than to enter into a payment plan to pay my taxes. 5 years later I am still trying to pay it off. Great book, but do not follow it unless you're a Trillionaire and could fight big government. Looking for help with these IRS issues is how I found Ron Paul. I was thinking how could anyone hear his message and NOT vote for him! He wants to get rid of the Federal Reserve and the IRS FFS!

Here I am now, so many years later, the butt of the joke.

osan
10-18-2015, 02:10 AM
“My father, Irwin A. Schiff was born Feb. 23rd 1928, the 8th child and only of son of Jewish immigrants, who had crossed the Atlantic twenty years earlier in search of freedom. As a result of their hope and courage my father was fortunate to have been born into the freest nation in the history of the world. But when he passed away on Oct. 16th, 2105 at the age of 87, a political prisoner of that same nation, legally blind and shackled to a hospital bed in a guarded room in intensive care, the free nation he was born into had itself died years earlier.”



Shackled to the bed?!

Who in the world reading this is so endlessly stupid or corrupt that they cannot or will not see the bottomless viciousness of the people who would do such things to another?

I have a lot of respect for Irwin Schiff. Unlike most of us, he put his money where his mouth was and his hide on the line for real... and paid a huge price for the sake of a nation whose people do not, on the average, deserve a whit of what he gave them.

Wherever he may be at this moment, I hope it is a far better place than that in which the rest of us remain.

dannno
10-18-2015, 04:33 AM
While I would like to offer my condolences, I also have to say it was an indirect IRS issue that brought me to Ron Paul. I bought Irwin's book and followed everything stated. Years later I had the IRS after me and my boss was going to allow them to garnish my wages. I had no recourse other than to enter into a payment plan to pay my taxes. 5 years later I am still trying to pay it off. Great book, but do not follow it unless you're a Trillionaire and could fight big government. Looking for help with these IRS issues is how I found Ron Paul. I was thinking how could anyone hear his message and NOT vote for him! He wants to get rid of the Federal Reserve and the IRS FFS!

Here I am now, so many years later, the butt of the joke.

Nice try :(

Not sure what joke you're referring to :confused:

dannno
10-18-2015, 04:40 AM
lol, Irwin Schiff called Bill Clinton "Tweedle D" before the Lewinsky scandal :D

That should play well with the hipsters :D

Ronin Truth
10-18-2015, 10:33 AM
R.I.P. Irwin, you deserved much better. :( :mad:

Warlord
10-18-2015, 11:54 AM
I am saddened by this loss. RIP Irwin

TomtheTinker
10-18-2015, 01:59 PM
Rest Free Irwin

Suzanimal
10-18-2015, 02:07 PM
http://i.imgur.com/u333qro.png

Feelgood
10-18-2015, 03:40 PM
Nice try :(

Not sure what joke you're referring to :confused:

Nice try? What kind of a stupid comment is that? The joke is that you can actually beat Big Government and expect them to play by the rules. Applying Irwin's advice got me into over $24,000 in trouble with the IRS. The joke? Everything stated in Irwin's book that I applied and get me in hot water. My advice, steer clear and do not follow the advice Irwin outlined in his book.

Damn shame at the end of it all he had to die a prisoner of the state.

fr33
10-18-2015, 03:45 PM
He was a hero with brass balls. The state is cruel and relentless in how they treated him.

Peace&Freedom
10-18-2015, 11:23 PM
Nice try? What kind of a stupid comment is that? The joke is that you can actually beat Big Government and expect them to play by the rules. Applying Irwin's advice got me into over $24,000 in trouble with the IRS. The joke? Everything stated in Irwin's book that I applied and get me in hot water. My advice, steer clear and do not follow the advice Irwin outlined in his book.

Damn shame at the end of it all he had to die a prisoner of the state.

The great majority of tax honesty folks who have applied the concepts (by first making themselves judgment proof, while keeping their activity free of the SSN tracking number, and consistently challenging IRS misapplied tax assessments) have not experienced the hot water above described. There are only 2,000 some odd prosecutions for tax fraud a year, despite over 65 million Americans neither filing or paying. The bulk of IRS harassment is directed at prominent tax truth figures, to try to scare the rest of us off.

Libertarians agree that taxation is legalized theft, but some of us draw the line at unlawful theft, where tax collection is fraudulently enforced even where it is not applicable. Irwin Schiff was one of the brave figures who took a leadership role in pointing this out. I will always cherish the LP National convention I attended in 2002 where he took the time to talk to me and another party member and gave us an impromptu hour lecture on the tax gestapo. He shared even when there was no monetary gain to be had. He will be missed.

The Northbreather
10-19-2015, 11:12 PM
Truth is Treason

RIP good sir

Weston White
10-20-2015, 03:57 AM
Truly horrible. Peter was just on AJ Show hopeful that he might be granted house arrest at his home for the remainder of his time, as he was very ill this last year. Peter sounded to be making arrangements for him, no firearms whatsoever and all of that BS. Separate rules for the Berger and Scooters of this world, but not for the Paul and Schiffs.

Madison320
10-20-2015, 08:26 AM
Wow. He was over 80 years old, and the bastards wouldn't let him out. He should have just killed somebody. That comes with a shorter sentence.

He was 87 and still handcuffed to the bed when he died. What kind of sick assholes would do that? Even if you think tax evasion should be punished, it doesn't deserve jail time. Just put him on probation and strip him of his right to vote. This is a clear case of being an enemy of the state but a friend of the people.

Brian4Liberty
10-20-2015, 11:18 AM
Irwin Schiff - A 'Most Dangerous Man' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQjRQR-DW9I)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQjRQR-DW9I

Anti Federalist
10-20-2015, 12:03 PM
America, the land of the free.

Where you die in jail, a political prisoner, for writing books.

What stinking pile of horseshit.

And your typical AmeriKunt could not possibly care less.

Godspeed Irwin, Godspeed...

Patrick Henry
10-20-2015, 04:09 PM
I am betting that the pieces of trash feds are all high fiving and wanking each other.

ChristianAnarchist
10-20-2015, 08:21 PM
Irwin my friend. R.I.P.

helmuth_hubener
10-20-2015, 08:53 PM
He fought the good fight. He kept the faith. He lived on his terms. Unintimidated.

ChristianAnarchist
10-20-2015, 09:50 PM
Thank you Irwin. You opened my eyes. I knew before meeting you that the income tax was wrong and had stopped filing. After listening to your multiple tapes and going to some of your meetings I agreed that your "Zero return" was the way to go and I did that for many years. Eventually the goons came after me too but I did not have your courage. I caved and started filing my 1040 self-snitch-bitch form and paid the extortion money to this day. The biggest lesson I learned from your life is how the goons HAVE NO LAW. They FOLLOW NO LAW. There IS NO LAW. There is only the belief by the masses that law exists and that we must follow "law". The goons in the goonerment know that "law" is a fiction and therefore they don't bother to follow any.


Irwin was tortured to his last day by the goons and may God rest his soul...

dude58677
10-21-2015, 10:01 AM
"They hate us for our freedom":mad:

ChristianAnarchist
10-21-2015, 05:07 PM
Irwin Schiff - A 'Most Dangerous Man' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQjRQR-DW9I)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQjRQR-DW9I

"I think he (Irwin) was absolutely sincere and probably right on all his arguments..."

Another great Ron Paul quote to add to the list...

Danke
10-21-2015, 05:12 PM
"I think he (Irwin) was absolutely sincere and probably right on all his arguments..."

Another great Ron Paul quote to add to the list...

http://losthorizons.com/Newsletter.htm#1c

Irwin Schiff Passes
A gross injustice ends in the worst way it could: while Schiff still languished in prison.
WORD HAS REACHED ME THIS MORNING that Irwin Schiff has passed. Unfortunately, it is too close to publishing time to for a proper commentary on this sad event.

For now, suffice it to say that though he never actually got to the truth about the income tax, Irwin opened an awful lot of eyes to the fact that what most folks are encouraged by the hungry, corrupt state to believe is true about the tax, isn't. For his efforts, and his admirable resolution in acting as he believed he should out of respect for the law, Irwin was persecuted and abused, ending up dead in prison as an elderly man.

Shame on those who did him injustices.

Rest in peace, Irwin. You've earned it.

dannno
10-21-2015, 05:35 PM
Thank you Irwin. You opened my eyes. I knew before meeting you that the income tax was wrong and had stopped filing. After listening to your multiple tapes and going to some of your meetings I agreed that your "Zero return" was the way to go and I did that for many years. Eventually the goons came after me too but I did not have your courage. I caved and started filing my 1040 self-snitch-bitch form and paid the extortion money to this day. The biggest lesson I learned from your life is how the goons HAVE NO LAW. They FOLLOW NO LAW. There IS NO LAW. There is only the belief by the masses that law exists and that we must follow "law". The goons in the goonerment know that "law" is a fiction and therefore they don't bother to follow any.


Irwin was tortured to his last day by the goons and may God rest his soul...

Nice try :(