The RPF Memorial Thread

[Anti Federalist]

tkubic46

WilliamC

Meatwasp

Live_Free_or_Die

kathy88's husband

BuddyRey

Amy31416

Shem Kellogg

speciallyblend

not.your.average.joe

Working Poor's husband

May God shine on your souls and grant peace.

[Kotin]

:( thanks


Each of these people has affected my Life more than most people I know In my daily life.. These people and many of you make this place my home and I am grateful for all of you who have stuck it out on these forums for so long and to those who will join us along the way going forward. We are a family here and it's been that way for a long time now. We are united by principle but strengthened by the community that has developed here. I look forward to the next 9 years and pray we don't lose anymore soon.

[pcosmar]

A list I do not want to join,, but I would be in good company.

[heavenlyboy34]

Thanks for the thread, bro. These are from my buddyrey memorial/tribute/prayer site. It's virtually the same for the others recently departed, so I won't paste redundancies.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk12/heavenlyboy34/IMG_0087_zpsq5enxbqe.jpg http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk12/heavenlyboy34/IMG_0088_zpsoqkiuqlg.jpghttp://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk12/heavenlyboy34/IMG_0089_zpsh9bzilwu.jpghttp://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk12/heavenlyboy34/IMG_0090_zpssnt7wwqh.jpg
God rest their souls.

[heavenlyboy34]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-FdhLoFgkc&spfreload=10

[cajuncocoa]

http://s24.postimg.org/cbixyoplh/memorial_candle1.jpg


http://s18.postimg.org/wxq7fmoix/stock_photo_a_field_of_white_roses_59627023.jpg

[tod evans]

Peace......

[Terry1]

http://rs944.pbsrc.com/albums/ad286/TiCa_photos/animated_candle.gif~c200
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/26600000/Jesus-Things-of-Heaven-christmas-26601132-319-256.jpg

[Jeremy]

tkubic46

[Anti Federalist]

tkubic46

Did not know this member well.

What happened and when?

ETA - I see he changed his username to:

dr. hfn

[RJB]

I didn't know meatwasp left. I always wanted to get that book. I'll order it now.

RIP :(

[heavenlyboy34]

:( thanks


Each of these people has affected my Life more than most people I know In my daily life.. These people and many of you make this place my home and I am grateful for all of you who have stuck it out on these forums for so long and to those who will join us along the way going forward. We are a family here and it's been that way for a long time now. We are united by principle but strengthened by the community that has developed here. I look forward to the next 9 years and pray we don't lose anymore soon.
*hugs*
btw, if you or anyone else here of the millenial generation or younger around here dies before me, I'll give you a thrashing when I see you in heaven. I'm sick of burying and mourning friends so young. :'( *cries*

[heavenlyboy34]

I didn't know meatwasp left. I always wanted to get that book. I'll order it now.

RIP :(
This is it, right: http://www.amazon.com/Merriweather-Search-Fairies-Marcella-Horn/dp/1479191396/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1444958918&sr=8-4&keywords=merriweather+and+fairies ? IDR the exact title.

[RJB]

This is it, right: http://www.amazon.com/Merriweather-Search-Fairies-Marcella-Horn/dp/1479191396/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1444958918&sr=8-4&keywords=merriweather+and+fairies ? IDR the exact title.

I thought they had a book on homesteading from their own experiences.

[jmdrake]

My tribute in music.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFkcAH-m9W0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxR4AdXshYc

[Spikender]

RIP.

I don't get in extended talks with members on here and I never really talked to any of these members, but I read a lot of their posts and I know that we lost a great deal of wisdom and personality when each of them passed.

[pcosmar]

This should be a "sticky" .
as memory and reminder.

[Anti Federalist]

Shem Kellogg

21 June 2016

RIP

[DaninPA]

Shem Kellogg

20 June 2016

RIP

Damn...

[ronpaulhawaii]

Shem Kellogg

20 June 2016

RIP


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti6bqCd58pI

[TheTexan]

6 down,,,

..

[cajuncocoa]

RIP, Shem Kellogg

I had a bad feeling when I saw this thread was active again. :(

[Carlybee]

:( RIP

[Danke]

Somber duty...

Who has left us, that I may have missed?

tkubic46

WilliamC

Meatwasp

BuddyRey

Amy31416

Shem Kellogg

May God shine on your souls and grant peace.

Live_free_or_Die?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?457987-Live_free_or_Die-is-not-well&p=6138267&viewfull=1#post6138267

[Anti Federalist]

Live_free_or_Die?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?457987-Live_free_or_Die-is-not-well&p=6138267&viewfull=1#post6138267

Added.

[CaseyJones]

I am getting reports that speciallyblend has died in a 4 wheeler accident


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0sw2CgysWY

[CaptUSA]

I am getting reports that speciallyblend has died in a 4 wheeler accident

Oh come on... :(

[TER]

Lord have mercy! Please tell me this is not true! :(

[CaseyJones]

his name is Kenneth "Kenny" Griffin , Leadsville Co
if anyone can confirm I would appreciate it

[heavenlyboy34]

I am getting reports that speciallyblend has died in a 4 wheeler accident


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0sw2CgysWY

WTF!?? :eek: :eek: :( :( :'( THEY KILLED KENNY! :mad:
He was a funny guy, so I think he would appreciate a bit of silliness in his honour...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHhx_-r6Kmg
May his memory be eternal! :'(

[Origanalist]

his name is Kenneth "Kenny" Griffin , Leadsville Co
if anyone can confirm I would appreciate it

Let's hope they are false.

[MelissaWV]

his name is Kenneth "Kenny" Griffin , Leadsville Co
if anyone can confirm I would appreciate it

Numerous Facebook posts stating the same, plus the report in chat. I could not find anything in Google yet, but it could be that a single-person (I am speculating it is single-person; most are) ATV wreck doesn't make the news, and that it's too early for an obituary or other memorial page to pop up.

[Ron Paul in 2008]

Amy31416
.

How and when did Amy die?

:(

[CaseyJones]

How and when did Amy die?

:(

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?483429-Amy-Amy31416-Memorial-Thread

[Ron Paul in 2008]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?483429-Amy-Amy31416-Memorial-Thread

ty.

What a loss. :(

[Ron Paul in 2008]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?483429-Amy-Amy31416-Memorial-Thread

ty.

What a loss. :(

[Natural Citizen]

Dang. I was just popping my mouth off to speciallyblend about his radio ads the other day, too. Crap like this is why we need to be nicer to one another. Even if we disagree with little things here and there. You just never know what tomorrow is going to bring.

[heavenlyboy34]

Dang. I was just popping my mouth off to speciallyblend about his radio ads the other day, too. Crap like this is why we need to be nicer to one another. Even if we disagree with little things here and there. You just never know what tomorrow is going to bring.

I like to think everyone knows I love 'em (my ~free hugs for all of you~ thread, etc), but I should probably be nicer. :o I bet I come off as meaner than I mean to because we're typing instead of really talking. :/ :(

[Danke]

Sad if true, he just lost his wife and parents.

[oyarde]

Sad if true, he just lost his wife and parents.

I hope not .

[Thor]

Numerous Facebook posts stating the same, plus the report in chat. I could not find anything in Google yet, but it could be that a single-person (I am speculating it is single-person; most are) ATV wreck doesn't make the news, and that it's too early for an obituary or other memorial page to pop up.

Can you repost or link to?

[Thor]

Just got word it is true. RIP Kenny. You will be missed. A fighter for Liberty thru and thru...

[CaseyJones]

Just got word it is true. RIP Kenny. You will be missed. A fighter for Liberty thru and thru...

well shit :( I was hoping it was false

[Suzanimal]

:(

RIP.

[Lucille]

:( Not speciallyblend!

[Anti Federalist]

Added to the OP.

RIP Kenny.

[tod evans]

:(

R.I.P.

[angelatc]

holy crap. Another gone far to soon.

this place is cursed. No way statistically should we be losing so many so young.

[donnay]

Sad. :( Go with God.

[euphemia]

How sad.

[Athan]

Damn. People dying sucks, Ron Paul supporters dying, is heartbreaking though.

[phill4paul]

Damnit! :mad:

[Kotin]

how?! Kenny dead?? I just don't get it.. :(

met him in CPAC 2011.. he brought Hash Tootsie rolls and joints and a bunch of RPF and liberty people smoked in the hotel parking lot and hung out in his room.. such a funny and energetic guy.. and extremely passionate about liberty..

[Carlybee]

RIP :(

[pcosmar]

Dang :(

R.I.P. I hope to see you later.

There are 100 ways to die everyday.

ya'all be careful out there.

[Thor]

Kenny's step daughter is pregnant (he was gonna be a grandfather) and they are having trouble with funeral expenses.

There is a go fund me... if anyone can help out a little...

https://www.gofundme.com/2hgephw

[asurfaholic]

So sad. RIP

[BamaAla]

how?! Kenny dead?? I just don't get it.. :(

met him in CPAC 2011.. he brought Hash Tootsie rolls and joints and a bunch of RPF and liberty people smoked in the hotel parking lot and hung out in his room.. such a funny and energetic guy.. and extremely passionate about liberty..

yep. CPAC 2011 is where I met him as well. I was going to pick him up from the airport, but someone else ended up getting him. He was a good dude. RIP

[wizardwatson]

how?! Kenny dead?? I just don't get it.. :(

met him in CPAC 2011.. he brought Hash Tootsie rolls and joints and a bunch of RPF and liberty people smoked in the hotel parking lot and hung out in his room.. such a funny and energetic guy.. and extremely passionate about liberty..

I guess that explains origins of his username "speciallyblend". :)

[LibertyEagle]

how?! Kenny dead?? I just don't get it.. :(

met him in CPAC 2011.. he brought Hash Tootsie rolls and joints and a bunch of RPF and liberty people smoked in the hotel parking lot and hung out in his room.. such a funny and energetic guy.. and extremely passionate about liberty..

Well, he was passionate about legalizing drugs and free healthcare. I thought the world of Kenny, but those two things are the portion of liberty he was passionate about. On those, he worked his ass off and was quite a character. RIP Kenny. The world will be a much duller place without you.

[ChristianAnarchist]

Dang. I was just popping my mouth off to speciallyblend about his radio ads the other day, too. Crap like this is why we need to be nicer to one another. Even if we disagree with little things here and there. You just never know what tomorrow is going to bring.

Life is short. We really should stick together as we are a small minority...

[ronpaulhawaii]

DAMN! :(

At least he is now with his wife...

arrgghh...

[JK/SEA]

anybody know what kind of music he liked?...maybe post some links of his favs...

yep...i liked Speciallyblend...seems like i would have bonded with this guy..

RIP...see ya later Ken...

[brandon]

wow this forum has had really bad luck. RIP. If it was really a 4-wheeler accident, at least he died doing something fun?

[Carlybee]

Kenny's step daughter is pregnant (he was gonna be a grandfather) and they are having trouble with funeral expenses.

There is a go fund me... if anyone can help out a little...

https://www.gofundme.com/2hgephw

Will try to add some when I get paid.

[heavenlyboy34]

Are there any audio/video recordings of Kenny? I never met him, and it would be neat to get a bit of an idea what he was like IRL.:o Memory eternal! :'(

[Chester Copperpot]

Dang. I was just popping my mouth off to speciallyblend about his radio ads the other day, too. Crap like this is why we need to be nicer to one another. Even if we disagree with little things here and there. You just never know what tomorrow is going to bring.

Very true.. being nicer to everybody is a good idea.. I recently got diagnosed with cancer and finished treatment and so far everything looks good... but it certainly gives you a new priority on things and relationships with friends and family become more important than political squabbles for sure

[TER]

Very true.. being nicer to everybody is a good idea.. I recently got diagnosed with cancer and finished treatment and so far everything looks good... but it certainly gives you a new priority on things and relationships with friends and family become more important than political squabbles for sure

QFT

[GunnyFreedom]

wow this forum has had really bad luck. RIP. If it was really a 4-wheeler accident, at least he died doing something fun?

I'm seeing a like number off the forums too. It's not just here, it's everywhere. I dunno. I get the feeling that the world is sending home some fragile souls before some sort of calamity. Maybe that's just a shot of whiskey to numb the pain. Maybe this whole world is about to break open in wickedness, and stark brilliant revelation. Something. I just know my heart hurts for my friends and everyone they touched. Kenny was a good and loyal friend who was active - and successful - and still held principle above all. I should have words but I don't really. All I have is an empty place for everyone in this thread, and everyone I knew who has gone away. In their memory I will build myself up after their examples and extend the shadow of their memory into time. Above us, a constellation of stars to mind us to posterity, and to see that we do right.

[Anti Federalist]

I'm seeing a like number off the forums too. It's not just here, it's everywhere. I dunno. I get the feeling that the world is sending home some fragile souls before some sort of calamity. Maybe that's just a shot of whiskey to numb the pain. Maybe this whole world is about to break open in wickedness, and stark brilliant revelation. Something. I just know my heart hurts for my friends and everyone they touched. Kenny was a good and loyal friend who was active - and successful - and still held principle above all. I should have words but I don't really. All I have is an empty place for everyone in this thread, and everyone I knew who has gone away. In their memory I will build myself up after their examples and extend the shadow of their memory into time. Above us, a constellation of stars to mind us to posterity, and to see that we do right.

Amen.

[oyarde]

Life is short. We really should stick together as we are a small minority...

I agree , Danke should treat me better .

[angelatc]

I agree , Danke should treat me better .

A Libertarian safe space. This is gonna be hysterical.

[Danke]

I agree , Danke should treat me better .

What? You want me to build you another casino?

[John F Kennedy III]

Shem too? Fuck :(

[Anti Federalist]

Request mod move thread to "Remembrance" forum.

[JK/SEA]

anyone know Danke real name?...surprised no one has started a remembrance thread for him.

[Anti Federalist]

anyone know Danke real name?...surprised no one has started a remembrance thread for him.

I think his faithful Injun sidekick has been keeping his last known appearance, since fully being consumed by the Wendigo, as a remembrance thread, here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?505740-merry-christmas

[JK/SEA]

I think his Injun sidekick has been keeping his last know appearance, since fully being consumed by the Wendigo, as a remembrance thread here:


is this report of his death an inside joke, or did he really die?...i read a lot of tongue in cheek posts over this which makes me wonder if i'm outta the loop on this one.

[Anti Federalist]

In all seriousness, I hope Danke's OK.

But I'm guessing, since his last communication was to call us all assholes, that he probably checked himself out of the forum for whatever reason.

The only person I know who knows him IRL, is HVACTech.

So, you would be putting the crazy in charge of finding the curmudgeonly.

[Anti Federalist]

is this report of his death an inside joke, or did he really die?...i read a lot of tongue in cheek posts over this which makes me wonder if i'm outta the loop on this one.

No, I have no information that he died, got arrested, is sick, in the loony bin, fired, living in a box or held captive by vengeful wymyn.

I just know he disappeared, showed up on Christmas day to wish us all a Merry Christmas and call us all assholes at the same time, and then leave again, never to be heard from since.

Oyarde's explanation that he got consumed by the Spirit of the North Woods, the Wendigo, is as good an explanation as any.

[JK/SEA]

No, I have no information that he died, got arrested, is sick, in the loony bin, fired, living in a box or held captive by vengeful wymyn.

I just know he disappeared, showed up on Christmas day to wish us all a Merry Christmas and call us all assholes at the same time, and then leave again, never to be heard from since.

Oyarde's explanation that he got consumed by the Spirit of the North Woods, the Wendigo, is as good an explanation as any.

hmmm...thanks AF....strange days indeed. Hope he is well. So, until i hear different, i'm closing the book on Danke.

[Cutlerzzz]

WTF? I would have guessed the average age on this board was ~30. How are we all dying?

[ChristianAnarchist]

WTF? I would have guessed the average age on this board was ~30. How are we all dying?

I'm passing the big six-five in a little over a month... I have a feeling that the average age of those still here is a bit higher than 30...

[Jamesiv1]

I'm passing the big six-five in a little over a month... I have a feeling that the average age of those still here is a bit higher than 30...
I disagree. I bet it is under 25 judging by the lack of insightfulness and the immaturity of the posts.

And we might need to differentiate between those that post regularly, and those that do not.

The immaturity might be explained as older folks that happen to be immature - which is quite a lot of people in these present day times.

[pcosmar]

WTF? I would have guessed the average age on this board was ~30. How are we all dying?

average age may be a little higher.

most of the youngin's have left.

[oyarde]

hmmm...thanks AF....strange days indeed. Hope he is well. So, until i hear different, i'm closing the book on Danke.

Feel free to add any fond remembrance of Danke to the official Danke Remembance thread in Hot Topics titled " Merry Christmas ........ assholes "

[JK/SEA]

Feel free to add any fond remembrance of Danke to the official Danke Remembance thread in Hot Topics titled " Merry Christmas ........ assholes "

any idea on why he might have said that?.....

for myself, if i had been insulted or marginalized by someone either singular or in a group setting in here, i might have said the same thing...any clue?...

[oyarde]

any idea on why he might have said that?.....

for myself, if i had been insulted or marginalized by someone either singular or in a group setting in here, i might have said the same thing...any clue?...

I have no clue , he quit posting about ten days prior to that .

[Ender]

WTH- this is the first I read about Danke going missing- was wondering why I was missing some of his fun posts. :(

[Anti Federalist]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?508383-not-your-average-joe-new-account-owner&p=6430446#post6430446

[ronpaulhawaii]

http://www.theroguenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Pumpkin-9-666x500.jpg

#RIP_Amy

[CrissyNY]

https://i.redd.it/gtk7ck21odly.png

[Sentient Void]

Oh, man... I just signed in to see what was up... haven't been here in... years? And this is the first thing I clicked on. I distinctly remember discussing stuff with at least five of these people and it really hit me seeing these names. Good folks.

It's good that you guys put this up and have a forum dedicated to this.

[Anti Federalist]

Oh, man... I just signed in to see what was up... haven't been here in... years? And this is the first thing I clicked on. I distinctly remember discussing stuff with at least five of these people and it really hit me seeing these names. Good folks.

It's good that you guys put this up and have a forum dedicated to this.

Hello brother, long time no see.

Stick around a while.

[ChristianAnarchist]

Oh, man... I just signed in to see what was up... haven't been here in... years? And this is the first thing I clicked on. I distinctly remember discussing stuff with at least five of these people and it really hit me seeing these names. Good folks.

It's good that you guys put this up and have a forum dedicated to this.

Welcome back... your dreams were your ticket out...

[Anti Federalist]

Working Poor's husband.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?513792-Oh-My-Honey

[Origanalist]

Working Poor's husband.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?513792-Oh-My-Honey

I can't even think of what to say to her. Wow, rough times.

[Anti Federalist]

I can't even think of what to say to her. Wow, rough times.

Me either, I'm pretty speechless...

[Anti Federalist]

Just found out about this:

not.your.average.joe

His younger cousin has assumed his account in remembrance and posts under his account name, but the original NYAJ passed away from leukemia earlier this year.

RIP

ETA - I had his name added on the OP already, but was unaware of his account still being active.

[MelissaCato]

Gezzuz this is a sad thread. :(

[brushfire]

Gezzuz this is a sad thread. :(

Pretty cool I think. I like that people care (not all that common on the internet) - its also a good reminder that life is not a dress rehearsal. Make it count, while you can.

[wizardwatson]

Pretty cool I think. I like that people care (not all that common on the internet) - its also a good reminder that life is not a dress rehearsal. Make it count, while you can.

Cool, but also scary when people bump the thread. I'm always like, "Oh, no. What happened?"

https://static2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Did+i+just+watch+someone+die+_32f6e048fc2cb4b43dba 3bc1400a6fce.jpg

[brushfire]

Cool, but also scary when people bump the thread. I'm always like, "Oh, no. What happened?"

https://static2.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Did+i+just+watch+someone+die+_32f6e048fc2cb4b43dba 3bc1400a6fce.jpg

Sorry about that

[osan]

Oh, man... I just signed in to see what was up... haven't been here in... years? And this is the first thing I clicked on. I distinctly remember discussing stuff with at least five of these people and it really hit me seeing these names. Good folks.

It's good that you guys put this up and have a forum dedicated to this.

Wow... long time, old man. How've you been?

[osan]

WilliamC

!!!


Meatwasp

!!!!!!!


Live_Free_or_Die

!!!!!!!!!


speciallyblend

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sometimes it doesn't pay to get up at 2:30 AM and go to RPF.

What happened to all these people?

[Anti Federalist]

osan

William C - Colon cancer

Meatwasp - Was "klamath's" mom, passed away from heart failure IIRC, at 80 something.

LFOD - Lung cancer IIRC

Specially Blend - Was killed in an ATV mishap

[Brian4Liberty]

Update:


Via Amy's brother, pics from Mother's Day 2018...

5995

5996

[angelatc]

i just saw this tribute to Shemdog a 2016 rally.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDnkh_LhrFI&fbclid=IwAR0j3YqYLU-X913fvvNjH6yxXYNeTvpchlEkRJci4XLvmWWbFBeFLbivok4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDnkh_LhrFI&fbclid=IwAR0j3YqYLU-X913fvvNjH6yxXYNeTvpchlEkRJci4XLvmWWbFBeFLbivok4

[angelatc]

Another downed patriot. The member known around here as ProfG has unexpectedly passed away. You may or not know his real name was William Greene, You also may or may not know he earned a place in American history by casting his electoral vote for Ron Paul, throughly pissing off the GOP.

I am personally devastated. He was the person we all should be. Intelligent, educated, witty, libertarian, and quick-witted, always with an eye on the long game. An important voice for liberty, forevermore silent.

RIP, Bill. Thanks for what you did. I will love you forever for that.

Edited to add;

His wife put a memorial link on his Facebook page; https://everloved.com/life-of/william-greene/?flow=201

The funeral information and a memorial in August are scheduled if you live in Texas and want to attend.

Also this; Please consider a gift to Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity (https://everloved.com/life-of/william-greene/donate/)

So far, $195.00.


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[euphemia]

So sorry for your loss.

[Anti Federalist]

RIP - What a shame.

[TER]

May he rest in the Lord.

[Anti Globalist]

RIP

[Brian4Liberty]

Another downed patriot. The member known around here as ProfG has unexpectedly passed away. You may or not know his real name was William Greene, You also may or may not know he earned a place in American history by casting his electoral vote for Ron Paul, throughly pissing off the GOP.

I am personally devastated. He was the person we all should be. Intelligent, educated, witty, libertarian, and quick-witted, always with an eye on the long game. An important voice for liberty, forevermore silent.

RIP, Bill. Thanks for what you did. I will love you forever for that.

Are you sure? He posted two days ago.

[heavenlyboy34]

RIP :(

[Suzanimal]

Another downed patriot. The member known around here as ProfG has unexpectedly passed away. You may or not know his real name was William Greene, You also may or may not know he earned a place in American history by casting his electoral vote for Ron Paul, throughly pissing off the GOP.

I am personally devastated. He was the person we all should be. Intelligent, educated, witty, libertarian, and quick-witted, always with an eye on the long game. An important voice for liberty, forevermore silent.

RIP, Bill. Thanks for what you did. I will love you forever for that.

RIP


An Interview With Ron Paul’s "Faithless Elector"

11 HOURS AGOAtilla Sulker

I woke up this Independence Day morning, surprised to find out that Bill Greene, the great 2016 faithless elector who cast his vote for Ron Paul, passed away. Among other things, Bill was a fierce advocate of making gold and silver legal tender, and was an assistant professor at South Texas College. He was an early supporter of Ron Paul, his support going as far back as Paul’s 1988 campaign.

[Editor's note: see Greene's Mises Institite author profile.]

Last summer, I had the privilege of interviewing Bill while working on a paper on the history of the Mises Institute and the Austrian Revival. Here, we discussed various different subjects, including Ron Paul’s 1988 campaign, and the growth of the Mises Institute. This has not yet been published, and I would like to do so as a tribute to Bill. Below is our interview, conducted on 6/19/18:

Atilla Sulker: Describe the state of the libertarian movement in 1988, and the extent to which the Mises Institute influenced the overall movement in America at this time?

Bill Greene: In 1988, the Mises Institute was only six years old, having split off from the Cato Institute in 1982 (a Mises co-founder, Murray Rothbard, had co-founded Cato). Up until that split, the Cato Institute was the leading influence on the libertarian movement in the United States since its founding in the mid-1970s (not long after the founding of the Libertarian Party itself in 1971 – Cato’s co-founder, Ed Crane, was the LP’s National Chair from 1974-1977). Even at such a young age, the Mises Institute had already begun to have a strong impact on the libertarian movement – specifically, on its economic policy foundations. Cato’s focus was on government policy recommendations from a libertarian-leaning position. Since that time, the Mises Institute’s influence on libertarianism in the U.S. has equaled, if not surpassed, Cato’s influence. [The Mises Institute was in fact never part of Cato.]

AS: Describe the relationship Ron Paul had with the Mises Institute in 1988, and the extent to which the organization influenced his campaign platform?

BG: Ron Paul’s relationship with the Mises Institute in 1988 was initially through one of its co-founders, Llewellyn (Lew) Rockwell, who had been Paul’s chief of staff, (from 1978-1982) when Paul was a Republican U.S. Congressman. When Rockwell left for Mises in 1982, Paul – who had been heavily influenced by the works of Rothbard beginning in the 1970s – continued his relationship with the co-founders of Mises, drawing much (or most) of his policy positions from the writings of Austrian school economists. When Paul ran for President as the LP nominee in 1988, most of his campaign platform was pulled from these same policy positions. He has continued to be a Senior Fellow of the Institute since that time, often working, writing, and speaking with others connected to it.

AS: Is there a point in Dr. Paul’s career in which it appeared that the Mises Institute’s influence on him was climactic?

BG: I don’t think so, because the relationship has always been symbiotic, and Ron Paul was already firmly in the Austrian school’s camp even before the Mises Institute was founded. Since its beginnings, it’s been difficult to separate the two from each other.

AS: Describe the influence the Mises Institute had on Dr. Paul’s VP candidate Andre Marrou.

BG: I don’t have any personal knowledge of the Mises Institute’s influence on Andre Marrou.

AS: Describe the overall size and sentiment of Ron Paul’s 1988 presidential campaign based on your experience.

BG: Ron Paul’s 1988 presidential campaign appeared to me to be more extensive than the LP’s past campaigns, as this was the first time they had two former elected legislators on the ballot (Paul was a former GOP U.S. Representative, and Marrou was a former LP Alaska Representative). As usual, the campaign’s biggest challenge was getting on the ballot in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia. Due to highly restrictive ballot-access laws in a number of states, Paul’s campaign was only on the printed ballot in 46 states & DC (although he did achieve write-in status in Missouri –and in North Carolina, where I headed the N.C. Students for Ron Paul and participated in ballot-access petitioning). Despite Paul’s (and Marrou’s) extensive travels across the country, the campaign was excluded from any debates and only achieved 432,179 votes (0.5%) – still twice as much of Lenora Fulani’s (New Alliance Party) campaign, which actually did achieve 50-state ballot access.

AS: Describe the nature of Andre Marrou’s 1992 Libertarian presidential campaign.

BG: I was not active in his 1992 presidential campaign, although I remember reading news stories on it here and there, such as when he received the highest vote total in the primary results of the first town in the nation to report its votes (Dixville Notch, NH).

AS: Briefly describe, based on your experience, the development of the libertarian movement in America up from Dr. Paul’s 1988 presidential campaign to his 2008 presidential campaign, and outline the role of the Mises Institute in this development.

BG: Based on my own experience, the Mises Institute played a vital role in the development of the libertarian movement in America during the 20 years after Dr. Paul’s first campaign for U.S. president. During the first decade, they published and disseminated massive amounts of literature, newsletters, books, audio, video, and more; once the internet became more and more ubiquitous, they were able to have an ever-growing impact, rivalling the much better-financed Cato Institute in scholarly publications and economic education activities. The Mises Institute’s website soon became the highest-trafficked economics website in the world, and when Dr. Paul decided to run for president again in 2008, he was able to draw upon, and direct his new followers to, that large body of works in support of his policy positions. As a result, his following grew and became ever more educated in libertarian thinking.

AS: Describe the instances in which you attempted to run for office.

BG: When I ran for various political offices over the years, most of my own policy positions were influenced by publications I got from the Mises Institute. This was especially true of my unsuccessful campaign for the Florida House of Representatives in 1994, when I became the first state house candidate to be officially endorsed by the Political Action Committee of the nascent Republican Liberty Caucus (the “libertarian wing of the GOP” co-founded in 1991 by Paul). I had followed Dr. Paul out of the LP and back into the GOP, and I have been a member of, and active in, the RLC since that time.

AS: Is there anything else we should know about Dr. Paul’s 1988 campaign, or anything pertaining to the subject matter?

BG: My favorite story from Ron Paul’s 1988 campaign for President is from the time our N.C. Students for Ron Paul group brought him to the University of North Carolina at Greensboro for a speech to around 150 students and local residents. Following his speech (which professed many of the same policy prescriptions as his speeches today), he opened the floor for questions. A local group of Socialist Workers’ Party members were in attendance, and began challenging his free-market stances in a number of different areas. I remember Dr. Paul’s eyes lighting up at that, as he almost gleefully shot down every challenge with logical rebuttals, point by point. Twenty years later, when I chanced to run into Dr. Paul at a local restaurant while he was campaigning in Florida, I mentioned that event – and he remembered it, clearly and (quite obviously) fondly, remarking on how much fun he had that day. I was, to say the least, impressed.

https://mises.org/power-market/interview-ron-paul%E2%80%99s-faithless-elector

[Brian4Liberty]

Another downed patriot. The member known around here as ProfG has unexpectedly passed away. You may or not know his real name was William Greene, You also may or may not know he earned a place in American history by casting his electoral vote for Ron Paul, throughly pissing off the GOP.

I am personally devastated. He was the person we all should be. Intelligent, educated, witty, libertarian, and quick-witted, always with an eye on the long game. An important voice for liberty, forevermore silent.

RIP, Bill. Thanks for what you did. I will love you forever for that.


RIP - What a shame.


May he rest in the Lord.


RIP


RIP :(


RIP

https://mises.org/power-market/interview-ron-paul%E2%80%99s-faithless-elector

Ron Paul and Daniel McAdams remember Bill Greene. Go to the 15:00 mark:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoNwlhwbNak

[Brian4Liberty]

RIP "Skyorbit (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?504-skyorbit)", aka Tracy Saboe (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?154081-Tracy-Saboe-for-South-Dakota-State-Senate-Chip-In!).

7622

Bad news via AngelaTC:

Sioux Falls police: Man fatally shot innocent homeowner while breaking into wrong house (https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/crime/2020/06/30/sioux-falls-police-update-north-prairie-avenue-shooting/3284334001/)

Police say a man who shot four people in two separate locations in central Sioux Falls on Monday entered the wrong house looking for his intended target when he fatally shot a resident in the home.

Alton Ray Bear, 45, shot and killed Tracy Saboe, 40, at 800 N. Prairie Avenue thinking the home belonged to another man, police Capt. Michael Colwill said. Saboe and Bear had a short altercation after Bear broke into the home, and Bear shot Saboe once in the head, Colwill said.
...
Saboe had political aspirations in 2008, when he ran for the South Dakota State Senate as a Republican in the heavily Democratic District 15, which encompasses northern Sioux Falls. He lost to Democratic incumbent Kathy Miles.
...
More: https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/crime/2020/06/30/sioux-falls-police-update-north-prairie-avenue-shooting/3284334001/

[Anti Federalist]

RIP "Skyorbit (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?504-skyorbit)", aka Tracy Saboe (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?154081-Tracy-Saboe-for-South-Dakota-State-Senate-Chip-In!).

7622

Bad news via AngelaTC:

Sioux Falls police: Man fatally shot innocent homeowner while breaking into wrong house (https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/crime/2020/06/30/sioux-falls-police-update-north-prairie-avenue-shooting/3284334001/)

Police say a man who shot four people in two separate locations in central Sioux Falls on Monday entered the wrong house looking for his intended target when he fatally shot a resident in the home.

Alton Ray Bear, 45, shot and killed Tracy Saboe, 40, at 800 N. Prairie Avenue thinking the home belonged to another man, police Capt. Michael Colwill said. Saboe and Bear had a short altercation after Bear broke into the home, and Bear shot Saboe once in the head, Colwill said.
...
Saboe had political aspirations in 2008, when he ran for the South Dakota State Senate as a Republican in the heavily Democratic District 15, which encompasses northern Sioux Falls. He lost to Democratic incumbent Kathy Miles.
...
More: https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/crime/2020/06/30/sioux-falls-police-update-north-prairie-avenue-shooting/3284334001/

Killed by a "person of color" that was on parole for previous violent assaults.

White Lives Don't Matter.

RIP brother.

[emazur]

RIP "Skyorbit (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?504-skyorbit)", aka Tracy Saboe (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?154081-Tracy-Saboe-for-South-Dakota-State-Senate-Chip-In!).

7622

Bad news via AngelaTC:

Sioux Falls police: Man fatally shot innocent homeowner while breaking into wrong house (https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/crime/2020/06/30/sioux-falls-police-update-north-prairie-avenue-shooting/3284334001/)

Police say a man who shot four people in two separate locations in central Sioux Falls on Monday entered the wrong house looking for his intended target when he fatally shot a resident in the home.

Alton Ray Bear, 45, shot and killed Tracy Saboe, 40, at 800 N. Prairie Avenue thinking the home belonged to another man, police Capt. Michael Colwill said. Saboe and Bear had a short altercation after Bear broke into the home, and Bear shot Saboe once in the head, Colwill said.
...
Saboe had political aspirations in 2008, when he ran for the South Dakota State Senate as a Republican in the heavily Democratic District 15, which encompasses northern Sioux Falls. He lost to Democratic incumbent Kathy Miles.
...
More: https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/crime/2020/06/30/sioux-falls-police-update-north-prairie-avenue-shooting/3284334001/

I don't remember him but RIP. And respect for actually running for office. And I really don't like the manner in which he died - makes me think back to a Star Trek TNG episode (http://chakoteya.net/NextGen/122.htm) when Tasha Yar was killed:
CRUSHER: She was killed in a brutal, senseless act.

[trey4sports]

how?! Kenny dead?? I just don't get it.. :(

met him in CPAC 2011.. he brought Hash Tootsie rolls and joints and a bunch of RPF and liberty people smoked in the hotel parking lot and hung out in his room.. such a funny and energetic guy.. and extremely passionate about liberty..

I believe that was when I met him as well. I never saw this thread so I did not know he had passed. RIP Kenny.

[MelissaCato]

🤧🤧🤧😭😭🤧🤧😭😭🤧🤧🤧

[Anti Federalist]

Christopher A. Brown

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?550418-RIP-Christopher-A-Brown&p=6993904#post6993904

[Anti Globalist]

RIP to all of those on here that died. I wish I could've gotten to know them.

[Occam's Banana]

@pcosmar (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=982)

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?562105-Pete-Osmar-pcosmar-memorial-thread

[Anti Federalist]

pcosmar

Pete Osmar

9 March 2023.