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twomp
10-06-2015, 12:17 PM
If circumstances of any incident appear not to add up, it’s pertinent to thoroughly examine the current narrative for signs the State is attempting to mold public opinion — because it is there you will find the truth that you’re not being told.

In the case of MSF, a massive treaty cum trade deal involving U.S. interests in another part of the world from the tragedy in Kunduz can offer, perhaps, insight which might otherwise seem unrelated. As it turns out, MSF have been particularly vocal critics of the impending Trans-Pacific Partnership — and their criticism hasn’t gone unnoticed.

As reported in the National Journal in May:

“It’s not usual business for us, and the reason is because we’re very worried,” explained Judit Rius Sanjuan, whooversees Doctors Without Borders drug access campaign, in a phone interview. “We are doing anything we can to make sure the public is aware.”

Though the Nobel Prize-winning group has actively but reservedly opposed the massive TPP deal for years, recent letters to President Obama and a campaign of subway ads on the D.C. Metro show a more urgent, public push. Sanjuan admitted such a robust effort “is not usual practice for us.”

What is so pressing for the public to know that it led the group to abandon its typically subdued tone?

Simply, drug costs. Specifically, the intellectual property and patent laws that will favor drug companies should the TPP take effect.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-06/did-obama-bomb-doctors-without-borders-opposing-tpp

surf
10-06-2015, 12:21 PM
give that man a peace prize

Lucille
10-06-2015, 01:00 PM
I wouldn't put it past the fascist.


Doctors Without Borders released a statement following the conclusion of TPP negotiations in Atlanta:

“Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) expresses its dismay that TPP countries have agreed to United States government and multinational drug company demands that will raise the price of medicines for millions by unnecessarily extending monopolies and further delaying price-lowering generic competition. The big losers in the TPP are patients and treatment providers in developing countries. Although the text has improved over the initial demands, the TPP will still go down in history as the worst trade agreement for access to medicines in developing countries, which will be forced to change their laws to incorporate abusive intellectual property protections for pharmaceutical companies.”

Mr.NoSmile
10-06-2015, 01:27 PM
Posted on:
Beforeitsnews
ConservativeAngle
TheAntiMedia
LibertyNews
TheEventChronicle

So it's at least got the conspiracy new-I mean, alternative news sites buzzing.

William Tell
10-06-2015, 01:30 PM
give that man a peace prize

https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12036733_10153383328023001_6620075636286877051_n.j pg?oh=cfaa0d8cd2124000244a89274c243bcd&oe=569252F3

Lucille
10-06-2015, 01:45 PM
Four days, four official explanations (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/06/doctors-without-borders-airstrike-afghanistan-us-account-changes-again).


He argued for “strategic patience” in the longest war in US history, which has now stretched five years longer than the failed Soviet occupation of Afghanistan.

Actually, the longest war in US history was against the Apaches.

From the OP:


“Why did they have to blow up the whole hospital?” pleaded Nasratullah, whose 25-year-old cousin Akbar was among doctors killed in the bombing.“We know that the Americans are very clever. If they can target a single person in a car from their planes, why did they have to blow up the whole building?”

The ostensible explanation according to rumor centered on reports Taliban forces had entered the location and were using the cover of the hospital to fire on coalition forces.

Christopher Stokes, MSF General Director, irately stated, “Not a single member of our staff reported fighting inside the MSF hospital compound prior to the U.S. airstrike Saturday morning. The hospital was full of MSF staff, patients, and their caretakers. It is 12 MSF staff members and ten patients, including three children, who were killed in the attack.”
[...]
Reports from the scene indicate MSF had not only notified all warring parties in the region of the exact GPS coordinates for the hospital and its outlying buildings, but that doctors immediately notified forces the moment the hospital came under fire from a U.S. airstrike — and, even then, the attack continued for a full 30 minutes.

ZENemy
10-06-2015, 01:47 PM
Does it matter WHY?

or does it just matter?

limequat
10-06-2015, 05:17 PM
Our side is bombing hospitals, committing war crimes, and protecting child sexual abusers (on US bases).
This is not controversial.
We are the bad guys.

enhanced_deficit
10-06-2015, 05:19 PM
Every day there is a new different story. Good news is that current commander in chief is very honest man and should get things straight soon.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/buttons/firstnew.png (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?483234-Doctors-Without-Borders-airstrike-US-alters-story-for-fourth-time-in-four-days&goto=newpost) http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/misc/poll_posticon.gif Poll: Doctors Without Borders airstrike: US alters story for fourth time in four days (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?483234-Doctors-Without-Borders-airstrike-US-alters-story-for-fourth-time-in-four-days&)

puppetmaster
10-06-2015, 09:38 PM
Our side is bombing hospitals, committing war crimes, and protecting child sexual abusers (on US bases).
This is not controversial.
We are the bad guys.

TRUE.....but i am not part of the we but will get blamed

Zippyjuan
10-07-2015, 06:51 PM
Do "Doctors Without Borders" get to vote on the TPP Treaty?

pcosmar
10-07-2015, 07:06 PM
Do "Doctors Without Borders" get to vote on the TPP Treaty?

Does anyone?

UWDude
10-07-2015, 09:46 PM
Does anyone?

ZING

donnay
10-07-2015, 10:23 PM
Our side is bombing hospitals, committing war crimes, and protecting child sexual abusers (on US bases).
This is not controversial.
We are the bad guys.

No "WE" aren't. It is a hijacked government that are the bad guys.

Petar
10-07-2015, 10:50 PM
Do "Doctors Without Borders" get to vote on the TPP Treaty?

Not being able to vote ≠ not being able to hold political sway = Zippyjuan is being a facetious twat

Ronin Truth
10-08-2015, 09:09 AM
Obama apologized. Doesn't that make it all better? :rolleyes:

ZENemy
10-08-2015, 09:13 AM
I cant even imagine the horror we would unleash around the country if another country bombed at hospital in the US.

Imagine how many laws would be passed? Imagine how much freedom we would lose.

limequat
10-08-2015, 09:47 AM
No "WE" aren't. It is a hijacked government that are the bad guys.

A hijacked government acting in our names. The checks are signed by the Full Faith and Credit of the United States of America.
Every US citizen is culpable and liable. Myself included :(

donnay
10-08-2015, 09:49 AM
I cant even imagine the horror we would unleash around the country if another country bombed at hospital in the US.

Imagine how many laws would be passed? Imagine how much freedom we would lose.


Or as a deterrent from something else. Remember the Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton scandal front page of every news paper, and every news broadcasts first stories? Three days later Clinton ordered the cruise missile that blew up an aspirin factory in the Sudan. All in the name of terrorism--Hell yeah!

This time Putin is making Obama look bad so they needed another diversion...

donnay
10-08-2015, 09:52 AM
A hijacked government acting in our names. The checks are signed by the Full Faith and Credit of the United States of America.
Every US citizen is culpable and liable. Myself included :(

I do not buying into the group-think. Most people in America are fully asleep--much of it done by design.

ZENemy
10-08-2015, 10:14 AM
Or as a deterrent from something else. Remember the Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton scandal front page of every news paper, and every news broadcasts first stories? Three days later Clinton ordered the cruise missile that blew up an aspirin factory in the Sudan. All in the name of terrorism--Hell yeah!

This time Putin is making Obama look bad so they needed another diversion...

True! :mad:

Zippyjuan
10-08-2015, 11:48 AM
Not being able to vote ≠ not being able to hold political sway = Zippyjuan is being a facetious twat

How much influence on a trade treaty does Doctors Without Borders have? Which other opposition groups have been bombed?

Petar
10-08-2015, 12:08 PM
How much influence on a trade treaty does Doctors Without Borders have? Which other opposition groups have been bombed?

I would say that those questions are much more to the point.

It's possible that you can still be reformed yet.