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tangent4ronpaul
10-03-2015, 05:54 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/doctors-without-borders-airstrike-hits-afghan-hospital-killing-3-staffers/2015/10/03/2ed13104-b50a-48ec-9eb9-92db8ee3a876_story.html

KABUL – U.S. forces may have mistakenly bombed a hospital in northern Afghanistan on Saturday, killing at least nine people in an incident that will likely raise new questions about the scope of American involvement in the country’s 14-year war.

In a statement, Doctors Without Borders said an airstrike “partially destroyed” their trauma hospital in Kunduz, where the Afghan military has been trying to drive Taliban fighters from the city.

The airstrike killed at least nine Doctors Without Borders staff members. At least 37 other people were seriously injured, 19 of whom worked at the hospital. Officials warned the death toll could rise as dozens of people remain unaccounted for.

“We are deeply shocked by the attack, the killing of our staff and patients and the heavy toll it has inflicted on Kunduz,” Bart Janseens, director of operations for the hospital. “We do not yet have final casualty figures, but our medical teams are providing first aid and treating injured patients and…accounting for the deceased.”

Over the past week, U.S. military jets have conducted numerous airstrikes in Kunduz after the Taliban overwhelmed Afghan security forces on Monday. American Special Operations troops and on-the-ground military advisers from the NATO coalition have also been assisting Afghan forces.

[Maps at link]

Kunduz resident Mirza Langhmani has counted 30 to 35 airstrikes in the area over the past five days. U.S forces conducted 12 of them, including the one suspected of striking the hospital on Saturday, a coalition spokesman said. Afghan forces are also carrying out strikes.

In a statement, the U.S.-led coalition confirmed it carried out an airstrike about 2 a.m. Saturday in response to “individuals threatening the force.”

“The strike may have resulted in collateral damage to a nearby medical facility,” said Col. Brian Tribus, a coalition spokesman. “This incident is under investigation.”

The Doctors Without Borders facility was the only functional hospital in that part of Afghanistan. The organization posted photographs on Twitter showing part of the hospital was engulfed in flames shortly after the attack.

As the Afghan army battled Taliban fighters in the streets of Kunduz this week, the hospital has been struggling to treat hundreds of patients. At the time of Saturday’s airstrike, 105 patients and more than 80 doctors and nurses were inside the hospital, according to Doctors Without Borders.

In recent days, Doctors Without Borders issued frequent updates to the media detailing the strain of trying to cope with the influx of patients. The hospital was also reportedly running low on supplies.

Officials with the relief group repeatedly informed the U.S.-led coalition of the hospital’s precise GPS coordinates over the past few months, hospital officials said. The location of the hospital was last conveyed to the international coalition three days ago, officials added.

Once the airstrike began Saturday, hospital officials immediately reached out to U.S. military officials in Kabul and Washington, according to Jason Cone, executive director of Doctors Without Borders in the United States.

“The bombing continued for more than 30 minutes after American and Afghan military officials in Kabul and Washington were first informed,” the organization said in a statement.

On Saturday morning, the Taliban accused the U.S.-led coalition of “savagery” and a “barbaric act.”

The International Red Cross also condemned the bombing.

“This is an appalling tragedy,” said Jean-Nicolas Marti, director of Red Cross operations in Afghanistan. “Such attacks against health workers and facilities undermine the capacity of humanitarian to assist the Afghan people.”

In a separate statement, the U.S. Embassy in Kabul said it “mourns for the individuals and families affected by the tragic incident.”

“Doctors Without Borders performs terrific work throughout the world, including Afghanistan, and our thoughts and prayers are with their team at this difficult moment,” the embassy said. “We remain deeply concerned about the ongoing violence in Kunduz and the difficult humanitarian situation faced by its residents.”

On Saturday morning, Doctors Without Borders circulated photographs showing the aftermath of the bombing. In one photo, a health care worker in blood-stained scrubs huddled in a corner with another man. Another photograph showed doctors and nurses operating on a patient in an undamaged section of the hospital.

Hospital officials are trying to evacuate critically wounded patients to another facility two hours away, a risky undertaking as fierce fighting continues across swaths of northeastern Afghanistan.

Doctors Without Borders was one the last remaining international relief organizations in Kunduz. The United Nations and several other relief groups evacuated their staffers on Monday as the Taliban advanced into the city.

Concerns about civilian causalities in Kunduz, Afghanistan’s sixth largest city, have been mounting all week. On Thursday, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani said those concerns were one reason Afghan security forces were being cautious in their efforts to retake the city.

Over the past decade, U.S. airstrikes in Afghanistan have been controversial here because of the risk of civilian causalities and so-called friendly fire incidents.

During his final years in office, former Afghan president Hamid Karzai repeatedly accused the United States military of being reckless in how it carried out airstrikes. After Ghani replaced Karzai last year, relations between the Afghan government and coalition officials improved dramatically.

But in July, a coalition airstrike in mistakenly killed 10 Afghan soldiers, local officials said. Last month, Afghan officials accused the international coalition of killing 11 counternarcotic officers during an airstrike in Helmand Province.

Coalition officials initially denied involvement. But they issued another statement a day later retracting that denial, saying the matter was now under investigation.

Doctors Without Borders treats all patients it receives, including insurgents fighting the government.

Afghan soldiers were battling militants near the hospital when Saturday’s airstrike took place, said Laghmani.

“The Taliban are taking and evacuating their wounded fighters to the hospital for treatment,” said Laghmani, who said the militant group still controls most of the city. “It was the only advanced hospital, and it was operating under good, foreign leadership.”

In a statement, the Taliban denied any of its fighters were at the hospital at the time of the airstrike.

Langhmani said Kunduz faces a deepening humanitarian crisis.

“The dead bodies are lying on the streets, both the Taliban and also civilians, and no one is allowed to pick up the bodies,” Langhmani said. “There is also an electricity shortage, a water shortage plus a bread shortage.”

A Kunduz official wants the air campaign to continue despite local residents’ anger about the strike that damaged the hospital.

“I believe it is impossible to push back the Taliban from the city without airstrikes,” local police commander Sultan Arab said. “Airstrikes have been so efficient in Kunduz.”

Langhmani said he and many other Kunduz residents also still want the U.S. military’s help against the Taliban.

“But we want precise airstrikes,” Langhmani said. “If there is another like the one that at (the hospital), the people might rise up against both the government and the Taliban.”

-t

timosman
10-03-2015, 05:59 AM
Damn, how are we going to make Russians look bad now ? Puuuuutin !

alucard13mm
10-03-2015, 06:28 AM
I wouldve thought usa would blame russia and said one of the missiles fired from a su25 from syria richochet into kunduz.

tod evans
10-03-2015, 06:34 AM
Nothing says freedom like the scent of burning flesh in the morning...

ChristianAnarchist
10-03-2015, 06:35 AM
Goons goona goon hospitals...

timosman
10-03-2015, 06:38 AM
I wouldve thought usa would blame russia and said one of the missiles fired from a su25 from syria richochet into kunduz.

Do you think boobus would buy it ? :confused:

Cissy
10-03-2015, 07:06 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/doctors-without-borders-airstrike-hits-afghan-hospital-killing-3-staffers/2015/10/03/2ed13104-b50a-48ec-9eb9-92db8ee3a876_story.html

KABUL – U.S. forces may have mistakenly bombed a hospital in northern Afghanistan on Saturday, killing at least nine people in an incident that will likely raise new questions about the scope of American involvement in the country’s 14-year war.

In a statement, Doctors Without Borders said an airstrike “partially destroyed” their trauma hospital in Kunduz, where the Afghan military has been trying to drive Taliban fighters from the city.

The airstrike killed at least nine Doctors Without Borders staff members. At least 37 other people were seriously injured, 19 of whom worked at the hospital. Officials warned the death toll could rise as dozens of people remain unaccounted for.

“We are deeply shocked by the attack, the killing of our staff and patients and the heavy toll it has inflicted on Kunduz,” Bart Janseens, director of operations for the hospital. “We do not yet have final casualty figures, but our medical teams are providing first aid and treating injured patients and…accounting for the deceased.”

Over the past week, U.S. military jets have conducted numerous airstrikes in Kunduz after the Taliban overwhelmed Afghan security forces on Monday. American Special Operations troops and on-the-ground military advisers from the NATO coalition have also been assisting Afghan forces.

[Maps at link]

Kunduz resident Mirza Langhmani has counted 30 to 35 airstrikes in the area over the past five days. U.S forces conducted 12 of them, including the one suspected of striking the hospital on Saturday, a coalition spokesman said. Afghan forces are also carrying out strikes.

In a statement, the U.S.-led coalition confirmed it carried out an airstrike about 2 a.m. Saturday in response to “individuals threatening the force.”

“The strike may have resulted in collateral damage to a nearby medical facility,” said Col. Brian Tribus, a coalition spokesman. “This incident is under investigation.”

The Doctors Without Borders facility was the only functional hospital in that part of Afghanistan. The organization posted photographs on Twitter showing part of the hospital was engulfed in flames shortly after the attack.

As the Afghan army battled Taliban fighters in the streets of Kunduz this week, the hospital has been struggling to treat hundreds of patients. At the time of Saturday’s airstrike, 105 patients and more than 80 doctors and nurses were inside the hospital, according to Doctors Without Borders.

In recent days, Doctors Without Borders issued frequent updates to the media detailing the strain of trying to cope with the influx of patients. The hospital was also reportedly running low on supplies.

Officials with the relief group repeatedly informed the U.S.-led coalition of the hospital’s precise GPS coordinates over the past few months, hospital officials said. The location of the hospital was last conveyed to the international coalition three days ago, officials added.

Once the airstrike began Saturday, hospital officials immediately reached out to U.S. military officials in Kabul and Washington, according to Jason Cone, executive director of Doctors Without Borders in the United States.

“The bombing continued for more than 30 minutes after American and Afghan military officials in Kabul and Washington were first informed,” the organization said in a statement.

On Saturday morning, the Taliban accused the U.S.-led coalition of “savagery” and a “barbaric act.”

The International Red Cross also condemned the bombing.

“This is an appalling tragedy,” said Jean-Nicolas Marti, director of Red Cross operations in Afghanistan. “Such attacks against health workers and facilities undermine the capacity of humanitarian to assist the Afghan people.”

In a separate statement, the U.S. Embassy in Kabul said it “mourns for the individuals and families affected by the tragic incident.”

“Doctors Without Borders performs terrific work throughout the world, including Afghanistan, and our thoughts and prayers are with their team at this difficult moment,” the embassy said. “We remain deeply concerned about the ongoing violence in Kunduz and the difficult humanitarian situation faced by its residents.”

On Saturday morning, Doctors Without Borders circulated photographs showing the aftermath of the bombing. In one photo, a health care worker in blood-stained scrubs huddled in a corner with another man. Another photograph showed doctors and nurses operating on a patient in an undamaged section of the hospital.

Hospital officials are trying to evacuate critically wounded patients to another facility two hours away, a risky undertaking as fierce fighting continues across swaths of northeastern Afghanistan.

Doctors Without Borders was one the last remaining international relief organizations in Kunduz. The United Nations and several other relief groups evacuated their staffers on Monday as the Taliban advanced into the city.

Concerns about civilian causalities in Kunduz, Afghanistan’s sixth largest city, have been mounting all week. On Thursday, Afghan President Ashraf Ghani said those concerns were one reason Afghan security forces were being cautious in their efforts to retake the city.

Over the past decade, U.S. airstrikes in Afghanistan have been controversial here because of the risk of civilian causalities and so-called friendly fire incidents.

During his final years in office, former Afghan president Hamid Karzai repeatedly accused the United States military of being reckless in how it carried out airstrikes. After Ghani replaced Karzai last year, relations between the Afghan government and coalition officials improved dramatically.

But in July, a coalition airstrike in mistakenly killed 10 Afghan soldiers, local officials said. Last month, Afghan officials accused the international coalition of killing 11 counternarcotic officers during an airstrike in Helmand Province.

Coalition officials initially denied involvement. But they issued another statement a day later retracting that denial, saying the matter was now under investigation.

Doctors Without Borders treats all patients it receives, including insurgents fighting the government.

Afghan soldiers were battling militants near the hospital when Saturday’s airstrike took place, said Laghmani.

“The Taliban are taking and evacuating their wounded fighters to the hospital for treatment,” said Laghmani, who said the militant group still controls most of the city. “It was the only advanced hospital, and it was operating under good, foreign leadership.”

In a statement, the Taliban denied any of its fighters were at the hospital at the time of the airstrike.

Langhmani said Kunduz faces a deepening humanitarian crisis.

“The dead bodies are lying on the streets, both the Taliban and also civilians, and no one is allowed to pick up the bodies,” Langhmani said. “There is also an electricity shortage, a water shortage plus a bread shortage.”

A Kunduz official wants the air campaign to continue despite local residents’ anger about the strike that damaged the hospital.

“I believe it is impossible to push back the Taliban from the city without airstrikes,” local police commander Sultan Arab said. “Airstrikes have been so efficient in Kunduz.”

Langhmani said he and many other Kunduz residents also still want the U.S. military’s help against the Taliban.

“But we want precise airstrikes,” Langhmani said. “If there is another like the one that at (the hospital), the people might rise up against both the government and the Taliban.”

-t

If given the precise coordinates of a hospital you bomb it anyway, you have commited an act of terrorism.

Let's see, a powerful government bombing a hospital. Sounds familiar.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mniuGJJTcM

puppetmaster
10-03-2015, 07:25 AM
Stupid. These people are just stupid

tangent4ronpaul
10-03-2015, 07:28 AM
Do you think boobus would buy it ? :confused:

Ever talked to a graduate of our current educational system about geography?

Few years ago, I had a teen swear that England was 200 miles off the coast of Florida.

Hell, drop a word like Kabul on a American and they will probably ask you if they taste good. :rolleyes:

Reminds me of back in college in a class on Latin and Greek roots when the prof asked what is the antonym of progress and the girl in the row in front of me yelled out CONGRESS! He visibly grimaced. LOL!

She was SOOOOO RIGHT!

-t

phill4paul
10-03-2015, 07:34 AM
So, it was a "surgical" strike?

tangent4ronpaul
10-03-2015, 07:42 AM
So, it was a "surgical" strike?

That is soooo wrong, it's right. Made me laugh, but in a "sick" way.

Sometimes humor is the best way to deal with abhorrent situations.

-t

phill4paul
10-03-2015, 07:44 AM
That is soooo wrong, it's right. Made me laugh, but in a "sick" way.

Sometimes humor is the best way to deal with abhorrent situations.

-t

If I couldn't laugh I would go insane. This world...sheesh.

brandon
10-03-2015, 08:27 AM
Is there a single candidate running for president yet that supports decreasing the military budget? If there is I will probably support them. This shit is sick.

tangent4ronpaul
10-03-2015, 08:30 AM
Is there a single candidate running for president yet that supports decreasing the military budget? If there is I will probably support them. This shit is sick.

newspeak: "sick" is the new "cool", at least in teen - go figure... :rolleyes:

-t

vita3
10-03-2015, 08:56 AM
David Rockefeller's son (passed away last year) was a MD & head of Doctors without borders.

TheTexan
10-03-2015, 08:56 AM
Probably terrorists or associates of terrorists.

presence
10-03-2015, 09:11 AM
guardian reporting 20 dead now







Afghan hospital attack: MSF condemns Kunduz air strikes (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34433302)BBC News-4 hours ago
The medical charity MSF has condemned "in the strongest possible terms" deadly air strikes on its hospital in the Afghan city of Kunduz.

Afghanistan: MSF Staff Killed, Hospital Partially Destroyed in Kunduz (http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/article/afghanistan-msf-staff-killed-hospital-partially-destroyed-kunduz)
Doctors Without Borders-10 hours ago
US air strike on MSF clinic in Kunduz leaves tens killed and ... (http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2015/10/03/us-air-strike-on-msf-clinic-in-kunduz-leaves-tens-killed-and-wounded-photos.html)
International-RAWA News-3 hours ago
'Kunduz hospital bombing went on 30 minutes after US was informed' (http://www.hindustantimes.com/world/us-airstrike-may-have-hit-msf-hospital-in-kunduz/story-Rqu00C7YzHSVmNRbuvRWDO.html)
Opinion-Hindustan Times-4 hours ago
Air attacks in Afghanistan kill 9 hospital workers; US investigating (http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/03/asia/afghanistan-doctors-without-borders-hospital/)
In-Depth-CNN-28 minutes ago
U.S. military air strike may have hit MSF hospital in Afghan city (http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/u-s--military-air-strike-may-have-hit-msf-hospital-in-afghan-city/41685812)
Opinion-swissinfo.ch-9 hours ago

YouTube

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUw94__HzVw)YouTube

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8A182_vq30)RT

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yYHCPJOtLc)Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) International

(http://www.msf.org/article/afghanistan-msf-staff-killed-and-hospital-partially-destroyed-kunduz)The Guardian

(http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/oct/03/msf-staff-killed-in-suspected-us-strike-on-afghan-hospital-latest)Reuters
(http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/03/us-afghanistan-attack-idUSKCN0RW0HC20151003)

Explore in depth (https://news.google.com/news?ncl=d5sWceNvA2j57wM_rSsKeWPcVLGwM&q=msf+hospital&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCgQqgIwAGoVChMIsKHI88qmyAIVB8uACh324QDu)(2,0 84 more articles)


GreaterKashmir.com
(http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/world/story/197905.html)Afghanistan: ICRC condemns bombing of MSF hospital in Kunduz (https://www.icrc.org/en/document/afghanistan-icrc-condemns-bombing-msf-hospital-kunduz)ICRC (press release)-6 hours ago
Kabul/Geneva (ICRC) - The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) is deeply shocked by the bombing of the MSF hospital in Kunduz, ...

Red Cross condemns US bombing of MSF hospital in Afghanistan (http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/world/story/197905.html)
GreaterKashmir.com-2 hours ago Explore in depth (https://news.google.com/news?ncl=dEUlBMGfUnTqqFMEnhErQgV0SaPZM&q=msf+hospital&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CC0QqgIwAWoVChMIsKHI88qmyAIVB8uACh324QDu)(6 more articles)




Afghanistan: MSF hospital overwhelmed with wounded after heavy ... (http://www.msf.org/article/afghanistan-msf-hospital-overwhelmed-wounded-after-heavy-fighting-kunduz)Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) International-Sep 30, 2015
Kabul, 29 September 2015 - Médecins Sans Frontières'(MSF) trauma hospital has been overwhelmed with wounded as heavy fighting ...

Afghanistan: MSF Hospital Overwhelmed With Wounded After ... (http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/article/afghanistan-msf-hospital-overwhelmed-wounded-after-heavy-fighting-kunduz)
Doctors Without Borders-Sep 29, 2015 Explore in depth (https://news.google.com/news?ncl=dqCScVyde52b0yMWhR5_Rt_PtcGwM&q=msf+hospital&lr=English&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CDIQqgIwAmoVChMIsKHI88qmyAIVB8uACh324QDu)(15 more articles)



US military admits bombing MSF charity hospital in Afghanistan ... (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/us-military-admits-bombing-msf-charity-hospital-afghanistan-when-attacking-taliban-1522254)International Business Times UK-5 hours ago
Medical charity MSF (Médecins Sans Frontières) has confirmed that a least three of its staff were killed in the Afghan city of Kunduz following an ...




Americans may have bombed MSF hospital in Afghanistan (http://www.ghanaweb.com/GhanaHomePage/worldNews/Americans-may-have-bombed-MSF-hospital-in-Afghanistan-385447)GhanaWeb-9 hours ago
A U.S air strike may have hit a hospital run by Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF), a NATO forces spokesman said, after the medical aid group ...



MSF: Three staff killed and 30 missing in hospital bombing (http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-10-03/msf-three-staff-killed-and-30-missing-in-hospital-bombing/)ITV News-10 hours ago
Medical aid group Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) said its hospital in the Afghan city of Kunduz was badly damaged, three staff were killed ...




At least nine killed in US air strike on Afghan hospital (http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/03/uk-afghanistan-attack-idUKKCN0RS0AA20151003)Reuters UK-2 hours ago
MSF said it gave the location of the hospital to both Afghan and U.S. sides several times in the past few months, as well as this week, to avoid ...




MSF says gave location of bombed-out hospital to Afghan, US forces (https://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2015/Oct-03/317528-msf-says-gave-location-of-bombed-out-hospital-to-afghan-us-forces.ashx)The Daily Star-5 hours ago
MSF says gave location of bombed-out hospital to Afghan, US forces. Afghan security forces take a wounded civilian man to the hospital after ...



MSF gave location of bombed-out hospital to Afghan, U.S. forces (http://www.todayonline.com/world/msf-gave-location-bombed-out-hospital-afghan-us-forces)TODAYonline-4 hours ago
NEW DELHI - Medical aid group Medecins Sans Frontieres on Saturday said it gave the coordinates of the Afghan hospital hit by an airstrike ...



MSF hospital hit, three staff killed in bombing of Afghan city (http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/10/03/msf-hospital-hit-three-staff-killed-in-bombing-of-afghan-city)Edmonton Sun-10 hours ago
KABUL - Medical aid group Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) said on Saturday its hospital in the Afghan city of Kunduz was partially destroyed, ...

tangent4ronpaul
10-03-2015, 09:16 AM
You can not give presence rep again till you spread some rep around...

Can someone cover me?

Great research guy!

-t

FindLiberty
10-03-2015, 09:22 AM
Some collateral damage occurred while destroying yet another stockpile of
Non-Steroidal-Anti-Inflammatory-Drugs (like aspirin).

Batman
10-03-2015, 09:27 AM
Were they trying to run for president?

jonhowe
10-03-2015, 09:35 AM
Reminds me of back in college in a class on Latin and Greek roots when the prof asked what is the antonym of progress and the girl in the row in front of me yelled out CONGRESS! He visibly grimaced. LOL!

She was SOOOOO RIGHT!

-t



Oh man, that had me laughing. I'm stealing that.

euphemia
10-03-2015, 09:45 AM
This is precisely why we should bring every single military troop home. The ones giving the orders can't tell the difference between the good guys and the bad ones. Give it up and bring them all home.

ChristianAnarchist
10-03-2015, 09:55 AM
This is precisely why we should bring every single military troop home. The ones giving the orders can't tell the difference between the good guys and the bad ones. Give it up and bring them all home.

+rep

sparebulb
10-03-2015, 10:05 AM
Thank goodness we are using "smart" bombs. Just think what we might have hit if we were recklessly using dumb bombs like the Russians in Syria.

Despite Video Evidence, Pentagon Slams Moscow for Using 'Dumb Bombs' (http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151002/1027943624/USAF-Slam-Moscows-Dumb-Bombs.html)

Nirvikalpa
10-03-2015, 10:28 AM
Those poor medical staff that woke up this morning with a selfless will to help heal people.

R.I.P.




May those moved by this news be more empowered, and work harder than ever, to stop it.

presence
10-03-2015, 10:59 AM
previously....


Afghanistan: MSF hospital overwhelmed with wounded after heavy fighting in Kunduz

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30 September 2015


http://cdn.msf.org/sites/msf.org/files/kunduz_2.jpgMSF


“The hospital is inundated with patients,”
says Guilhem Molinie, MSF’s Country Representative in Afghanistan.



Kabul, 29 September 2015 - Médecins Sans Frontières’(MSF) trauma hospital has been overwhelmed with wounded as heavy fighting between government and opposition forces engulfed Kunduz city on Monday. Since early Monday morning, MSF’s medical teams have treated 171 wounded, including 46 children. Fifty patients arrived in critical condition. The majority of patients had sustained gunshot wounds, with surgeons treating severe abdominal, limb and head injuries.

“The hospital is inundated with patients,” says Guilhem Molinie, MSF’s Country Representative in Afghanistan (http://www.msf.org/afghanistan). “We have quickly increased the number of beds from 92 to 110 to cope with the unprecedented level of admissions, but people keep arriving. We have 130 patients spread throughout the wards, in the corridors and even in offices. With the hospital reaching its limit and fighting continuing, we are worried about being able to cope with any new influxes of wounded.”

MSF’s international and Afghan medical team has been working non-stop to provide the best possible care, performing 43 surgeries late into the night on Monday. Wounded continued to arrive on Tuesday and critical patients were also referred to the hospital from MSF’s stabilisation clinic in Chardara district, 15 kilometres away.

Urgent medical supplies and medicines have been sent by road and air to Kunduz in order to guarantee continuity of care for patients in the hospital and to prepare for additional influxes of wounded.

“We are in contact with all parties to the conflict and have received assurances that our medical personnel, patients, hospital and ambulances will be respected,” says Molinie. “With the government provincial hospital not currently functioning, MSF’s hospital is now the only place in Kunduz where people in need of urgent trauma care can receive it.”
MSF’s hospital is the only facility of its kind in the whole north-eastern region of Afghanistan, providing free life- and limb-saving trauma care. MSF doctors treat all people according to their medical needs and do not make distinctions based on a patient’s ethnicity, religious beliefs or political affiliation.

http://www.msf.org/article/afghanistan-msf-hospital-overwhelmed-wounded-after-heavy-fighting-kunduz

enhanced_deficit
10-03-2015, 01:33 PM
Doctors w/o Borders ✔ @MSF_USA
(https://twitter.com/MSF_USA) UPDATE: At least 16 people died- nine MSF staff, 7 patients from Intensive care unit, among them three children http://bit.ly/1ObhjaT (http://t.co/5puRbAlgXS)
10:42 AM - 3 Oct 2015




Obama: U.S. Troops in Afghanistan Must Do More Than Kill Civilians

Asked whether he would move U.S. troops out of Iraq to better fight terrorism elsewhere, he brought up Afghanistan and said, "We've got to get the job done there and that requires us to have enough troops so that we're not just air-raiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous pressure over there."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293187,00.html






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AngryCanadian
10-03-2015, 01:38 PM
This is precisely why we should bring every single military troop home. The ones giving the orders can't tell the difference between the good guys and the bad ones. Give it up and bring them all home.

Good point expect in war there are no good guys when those power that maybe start wars.

Ender
10-03-2015, 02:01 PM
This is precisely why we should bring every single military troop home. The ones giving the orders can't tell the difference between the good guys and the bad ones. Give it up and bring them all home.

And just WHO are the BAD guys, exactly?

enhanced_deficit
10-03-2015, 02:10 PM
And just WHO are the BAD guys, exactly?

Locals who take up arms to resist against foreign military invasion and occupation. These locals with free access to guns don't know what freedom is all about.

jkob
10-03-2015, 02:44 PM
WAR CRIMINALS

twomp
10-03-2015, 02:59 PM
Were the people in the hospital Muslim? IF so, then they are obviously terrorists. The United States doesn't bomb innocent people.

enhanced_deficit
10-03-2015, 03:05 PM
WAR CRIMINALS

There is the "possibly" qualifier added in media headlines.

Afghan hospital attack in Kunduz possibly criminal - UN



2 hours ago


Dr Bart Janssens, MSF: Hospital "extremely badly damaged"

Air strikes on a hospital in the Afghan city of Kunduz that killed 19 people were "tragic, inexcusable and possibly even criminal", the UN human rights chief says.
High Commissioner Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein urged a full and transparent investigation into the attack.
Medical charity Medecins Sans Frontieres said (http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/article/afghanistan-msf-demands-explanations-after-deadly-airstrikes-hit-hospital-kunduz) at least 12 of its staff and seven patients were killed.
US forces were carrying out air strikes at the time.
At least 37 people were seriously injured, 19 of them MSF staff.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34435238

alucard13mm
10-03-2015, 04:48 PM
On a serious note, I think the hospital was "mistakenly" bombed because a high priority target was there. Maybe a CIA spook that has a change of heart or a local that witness something.

angelatc
10-03-2015, 05:06 PM
$10 says that the Pentagon will try to spin this, accusing the group of harboring ISIS members or something. Or they'll just laugh because they know nobody gives a fuck.

But if Russia had accidentally bombed this site, they'd be all puffed up with an unfathomable level of self-righteous indignation.

enhanced_deficit
10-03-2015, 05:39 PM
.. Or they'll just laugh because they know nobody gives a fuck.
..

That may have been the case couple of decades ago.. but lately many people have increased interest in foreign policy and interventions.


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/wp-content/themes/_stylebook/timthumb.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fthefreethoughtprojec t.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F07%2Ftsa.jpg&q=90&w=795&h=470&zc=1

vita3
10-03-2015, 05:58 PM
Instincts tell me Something more going on here we don't know about

presence
10-03-2015, 09:56 PM
MSF said the aerial raid hit the main hospital building
housing the intensive care unit and emergency roomshttp://news.yahoo.com/obama-offers-condolences-over-tragic-incident-kunduz-000839704.html

sparebulb
10-03-2015, 10:14 PM
On a callous note:

Most likely, some of the American medical personnel in that hospital were supporters of the Affordable Care Act.

How do they like their Obamacare now?

presence
10-03-2015, 10:30 PM
thats pretty dry

TheTexan
10-03-2015, 10:38 PM
$10 says that the Pentagon will try to spin this, accusing the group of harboring ISIS members or something. Or they'll just laugh because they know nobody gives a fuck.

But if Russia had accidentally bombed this site, they'd be all puffed up with an unfathomable level of self-righteous indignation.

I can guarantee you at least one of those doctors has probably provided aid & medical treatment to an associate of an enemy combatant.

puppetmaster
10-03-2015, 10:42 PM
There is the "possibly" qualifier added in media headlines.

Afghan hospital attack in Kunduz possibly criminal - UN



2 hours ago


Dr Bart Janssens, MSF: Hospital "extremely badly damaged"

Air strikes on a hospital in the Afghan city of Kunduz that killed 19 people were "tragic, inexcusable and possibly even criminal", the UN human rights chief says.
High Commissioner Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein urged a full and transparent investigation into the attack.
Medical charity Medecins Sans Frontieres said (http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/article/afghanistan-msf-demands-explanations-after-deadly-airstrikes-hit-hospital-kunduz) at least 12 of its staff and seven patients were killed.
US forces were carrying out air strikes at the time.
At least 37 people were seriously injured, 19 of them MSF staff.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34435238 well its a good thing the Saudis are in charge of the human rights arm of the UN. They are our good buddies.....

asurfaholic
10-04-2015, 04:38 AM
I'm just now seeing this news. It could be a major setback for me because I have been trying to ignore this stuff- this sort of stuff makes me hate the people who surround me with all their "we have to fight them over there" bullshit. I am increasingly unable to respect anyone who supports this war on terrorism and it is having a real effect on my life and relationships with people.

I used to be a happy go lucky always smiling person. this stuff is killing me from the inside out.