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Suzanimal
09-18-2015, 01:01 PM
The House voted Friday to block hundreds of Planned Parenthood clinics from getting federal funds for one year, a vote that was meant to deliver a strong rebuke to the country's largest abortion provider, and also help avert a government shutdown.

The measure passed 241-187 Friday morning with the support of just two Democrats, and three Republicans voted against it. It would halt roughly $500 million in federal funds, mostly through Medicaid and family planning dollars, to nearly 700 Planned Parenthood clinics around the country, unless the chain of women's health clinics agrees to stop offering the procedure.

It's similar to a bill Senate Republicans attempted to hold a vote on last month, although that one didn't set a one-year time limit and it explicitly clarified that federal funds would be made available to community health providers instead.

House Republicans were also joined by five Democrats Friday to pass a separate measure from Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., which would let states strip Medicaid funds from health providers suspected of violating a 2002 law extending legal protection to an infant born alive after a botched abortion. That bill passed 248-177.

The White House has said it would veto both bills.

The Planned Parenthood defunding measures were prompted by undercover footage from anti-abortion investigator David Daleiden highlighting how some of its clinics supply aborted fetal tissue to human tissue companies. The videos have sparked outrage among abortion opponents and reinvigorated efforts to strip the group of federal funds.

"Some of my colleagues have tried to dismiss these videos even without ever watching them," said Rep. Diane Black, R-Tenn., the bill's sponsor. "I did watch these videos and I saw full conversations of Planned Parenthood employees in their own words discussing potentially law-breaking activities."

The videos don't prove Planned Parenthood broke any laws, but they do raise questions. Republicans, who are probing the group through congressional investigations, insist there's enough uncertainty to defund the group immediately, and the bill is designed to stop funds while congressional committees investigate.

"There are more than enough lingering questions to stop the flow of taxpayer dollars to this abortion giant until this work is complete," Black said.

Republican anger is so great that many say they won't support a bill to fully fund the government unless it prohibits Planned Parenthood from any federal dollars. The House could vote on a government funding bill by next week.

By holding the stand-alone vote this week, Republican leaders bought themselves some time to resolve their intra-party, conservative-led dispute on whether some will insist on additional defunding language in the funding bill.

After Friday's House votes, the Planned Parenthood fight will move to the Senate, which is expected next week to consider a spending bill with a defunding measure attached, although Republicans admit they'll almost certainly fall short of the 60 votes needed to pass it. Then the major question will be whether Republican and Democratic leaders in both chambers can negotiate a spending bill if conservatives don't give any ground.

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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-votes-to-defund-planned-parenthood/article/2572408

Mr.NoSmile
09-18-2015, 01:03 PM
A grandstanding gesture that will go next to nowhere in the Senate and even then, Obama promises to veto anyway. And then, when the final countdown begins, some miracle comes up to avert a shutdown and the GOP ends up with egg on their faces for talking a big game, then doing nothing.

Sola_Fide
09-18-2015, 01:25 PM
A grandstanding gesture that will go next to nowhere in the Senate and even then, Obama promises to veto anyway. And then, when the final countdown begins, some miracle comes up to avert a shutdown and the GOP ends up with egg on their faces for talking a big game, then doing nothing.

It's not a gesture. Every libertarian, no matter what your view of abortion is, should absolutely support this.

Mr.NoSmile
09-18-2015, 02:15 PM
It's not a gesture. Every libertarian, no matter what your view of abortion is, should absolutely support this.

Support or not, this isn't going to go anywhere. It's like the GOP voting umpteenth times to repeal the Affordable Care Act...who cares? It wasn't going to be overturned.

specsaregood
09-18-2015, 02:21 PM
Support or not, this isn't going to go anywhere. It's like the GOP voting umpteenth times to repeal the Affordable Care Act...who cares? It wasn't going to be overturned.

if they weren't spending their time doing this or that ^, do you figure they would be spending their time working on legislation promoting freedom and liberty that was going to go somewhere?

Mr.NoSmile
09-18-2015, 02:26 PM
if they weren't spending their time doing this or that ^, do you figure they would be spending their time working on legislation promoting freedom and liberty that was going to go somewhere?

No, I figure they'd keep on giving speeches and getting into shouting matches.

Zippyjuan
09-18-2015, 04:38 PM
A grandstanding gesture that will go next to nowhere in the Senate and even then, Obama promises to veto anyway. And then, when the final countdown begins, some miracle comes up to avert a shutdown and the GOP ends up with egg on their faces for talking a big game, then doing nothing.

Kinda like the sixty plus times they voted to defund Obamacare. It is about staking positions for the upcoming elections.

euphemia
09-18-2015, 07:25 PM
Still, it's like Chris Christie said the other night. Put a bill on the president's desk and force him to veto it.

morfeeis
09-21-2015, 12:32 PM
Force Obama to say i support a company that profits from selling the dead bodies of babies, make him veto it.

jonhowe
09-21-2015, 07:34 PM
Abortion is not going to end by crap like this. It'll only end when people have their minds' changed about it. Things like this just cause knee jerk 'rally around' reactions and set the cause back by making pro-lifers look reckless.

Sola_Fide
09-21-2015, 07:55 PM
Abortion is not going to end by crap like this. It'll only end when people have their minds' changed about it. Things like this just cause knee jerk 'rally around' reactions and set the cause back by making pro-lifers look reckless.

This isnt about ending abortion. This is about ending coercive taxation going to fund abortion and organ harvesting. If you are a libertarian atheist who is pro-abortion, you should absolutely support this.

nobody's_hero
09-21-2015, 08:04 PM
Abortion is not going to end by crap like this. It'll only end when people have their minds' changed about it. Things like this just cause knee jerk 'rally around' reactions and set the cause back by making pro-lifers look reckless.

Endless war is not going to end by crap like this. It'll only end when people have their minds' changed about it. Things like this just cause knee jerk 'rally around' reactions and set the cause back by making anti-war folks look reckless.

The Fed is not going to end by crap like this. It'll only end when people have their minds' changed about it. Things like this just cause knee jerk 'rally around' reactions and set the cause back by making Austrian economists look reckless.

No-knock-raiding is not going to end by crap like this. It'll only end when people have their minds' changed about it. Things like this just cause knee jerk 'rally around' reactions and set the cause back by making homeowners look reckless.

The war on drugs is not going to end by crap like this. It'll only end when people have their minds' changed about it. Things like this just cause knee jerk 'rally around' reactions and set the cause back by making drug law reformers look reckless.

The list goes on and on.

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My point?

Nothing is gonna change unless someone starts making some bold moves.

Y'all are probably right. Most of the people who support this probably are just politically posturing themselves in elections, but if we had to stop supporting an idea every time we found out someone was using the issue to get elected, there'd be no ideas out there that would qualify for support.

Rand Paul supports this measure. Oh noes, Rand is trying to get elected! In that case, this idea sucks!!!!!

Wait, Double Crap on a hockey stick!!! — Hillary Clinton supports planned parenthood! She's trying to get elected! Planned parenthood sucks!!!!

Koz
09-21-2015, 09:14 PM
This bill is a scham that has exactly zero percent chance of becoming law. They need to tie it to the funding bill and let the Democrats shut the government down.