Mexico warns Texas not to refuse its immigrants' babies U.S. birth certificates

[LibertyEagle]

The Mexican government is warning that Texas’ denial of birth certificates for U.S. children born here to undocumented immigrants stands to imperil the relationship between Mexico and the Lone Star State.

The concern was raised in an amicus brief filed Monday evening to lend support to immigrants parents who sued Texas after being denied birth certificates for their U.S.-born children, even after showing their “matrículas,” the ID cards issued by the Mexican consulate to undocumented immigrants
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2015/08/27/mexico-warns-texas-not-to-refuse-its-babies-usbirth-certificates/

[heavenlyboy34]

Statists gonna State. Thuggery on a large scale-same as anywhere else, just in Spanish. Thanks for sharing. Hope to have this confirmed by a more reliable source than Faux Nooz, though. ~hugs~

[LibertyEagle]

It's called a nation, hb. Learn the concept.

[fr33]

Well thankfully they won't be sending cruise missiles or CIA agents in to disrupt it.

[Sola_Fide]

It's called a nation, hb. Learn the concept.

Let me understand. People in Kentucky and Ohio are free and can travel, relocate, and do business with each other, but people in Manitoba Canada are not free people and should not be able to relocate freely and work freely and do business with Minnesotans.

[heavenlyboy34]

It's called a nation, hb. Learn the concept.

I'm aware of the Nation-State. It's an institution created by Satan. You can have it. There's this thing called private ownership in land. Learn the concept.

[heavenlyboy34]

Let me understand. People in Kentucky and Ohio are free and can travel, relocate, and do business with each other, but people in Manitoba Canada are not free people and should not be able to relocate freely and work freely and do business with Minnesotans.

+rep. Darn shame this sort of rational thought isn't more popular. :/ :(

[Sola_Fide]

And if the answer is: "because of the border!", then that is really not an answer because Kentucky and Ohio have a border too.

It doesn't make sense. It doesn't come from a philosophy of freedom where individuals are primary. It comes from statism and nationalism. It's not libertarian.

[heavenlyboy34]

And if the answer is: "because of the border!", then that is really not an answer because Kentucky and Ohio have a border too.

It doesn't make sense. It doesn't come from a philosophy of freedom where individuals are primary. It comes from statism and nationalism. It's not libertarian.


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Sola_Fide again.
:( :'( Sorry, bro.

[LibertyEagle]

Let me understand. People in Kentucky and Ohio are free and can travel, relocate, and do business with each other, but people in Manitoba Canada are not free people and should not be able to relocate freely and work freely and do business with Minnesotans.

Right. Not unless the nation they are wanting to go to allows them to enter.

I know you understand this. You are just being obtuse.

[Sola_Fide]

Right. Not unless the nation they are wanting to go to allows them to enter.

I know you understand this. You are just being obtuse.

Right. Only socialists in Kentucky are free people. Canadian libertarians aren't free people.

[LibertyEagle]

:( :'( Sorry, bro.

Open borders advocates, unite, eh, hb? :rolleyes:

Seriously guys, Pelosi is your ticket. She agrees with you (http://toprightnews.com/pelosi-says-u-s-mexico-one-nation-community-border-going-video/).

Just think, soon, you may get your wet dream and we will be a part of a one world government. Fools.

[LibertyEagle]

Right. Only socialists in Kentucky are free people. Canadian libertarians aren't free people.

Canadians can freely travel within their own nation and to whatever other nations allow them to enter.

Got it now?

I know that you do.

[Sola_Fide]

Open borders advocates, unite, eh, hb? :rolleyes:

Seriously guys, Pelosi is your ticket. She agrees with you (http://toprightnews.com/pelosi-says-u-s-mexico-one-nation-community-border-going-video/).

Just think, soon, you may get your wet dream and we will be a part of a one world government. Fools.

David Duke agrees with you. You must be a white supremacist.

[LibertyEagle]

David Duke agrees with you. You must be a white supremacist.

Nope, but I would take that over being a frickin' traitor.

[William R]

Let me understand. People in Kentucky and Ohio are free and can travel, relocate, and do business with each other, but people in Manitoba Canada are not free people and should not be able to relocate freely and work freely and do business with Minnesotans.

If you actually need someone to answer your question you must have a room temp IQ at best.

[Danke]

Let me understand. People in Kentucky and Ohio are free and can travel, relocate, and do business with each other, but people in Manitoba Canada are not free people and should not be able to relocate freely and work freely and do business with Minnesotans.

Do they pay taxes to stock our lakes so I can enjoy ice fishing? Canadians hate guns, free speech and love ~hugz~


No thanks.

[Sola_Fide]

Canadians can freely travel within their own nation and to whatever other nations allow them to enter.

Got it now?

I know that you do.

Right. Borders make Kentucky socialists free and Canadian libertarians unfree. Makes perfect sense.

The labor market should be absolutely free because we are free market capitalists, except when you want to hire someone who is outside of a line drawn on a map. Then the market should be unfree. Yay capitalism!

[heavenlyboy34]

Right. Borders make Kentucky socialists free and Canadian libertarians unfree. Makes perfect sense.

The labor market should be absolutely free because we are free market capitalists, except when you want to hire someone who is outside of a line drawn on a map. Then the market should be unfree. Yay capitalism!
:D lulz :) Well-played!

[specsaregood]

Do they pay taxes to stock our lakes so I can enjoy ice fishing?

Is that not paid for with use fees/permits?

[Sola_Fide]

Nope, but I would take that over being a frickin' traitor.

What's traitorous about the free market? Do you think Edward Snowden is a traitor? I might wear that badge proudly the more I think about it.

[Danke]

:D lulz :) Well-played!

But we know it isn't true. Canadians demand over $200,000 to immagrate. They are not coming here.

[Danke]

Is that not paid for with use fees/permits?

Yes, illegals pay those.

[Sola_Fide]

Do they pay taxes to stock our lakes so I can enjoy ice fishing? Canadians hate guns, free speech and love ~hugz~


No thanks.

Well, the complaint you have about Canadian violations of liberty seem to lose their effect when you say that people should be coerced through theft to pay for stocking lakes.

[Ender]

:( :'( Sorry, bro.

Took care of it. ;)

[heavenlyboy34]

Open borders advocates, unite, eh, hb? :rolleyes:

Seriously guys, Pelosi is your ticket. She agrees with you (http://toprightnews.com/pelosi-says-u-s-mexico-one-nation-community-border-going-video/).

Just think, soon, you may get your wet dream and we will be a part of a one world government. Fools.
Proper, rational borders are formed by private ownership. Not your socialist land-hoarders in the Fed and State levels. You realize that vast swaths of land in the lower 48 are government owned, yes? And that it would be rationally defended by private owners instead of your beloved socialist gov'ment?

Look:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/federal-land-map.jpg
This is Federally occupied land alone-it doesn't include State regime-owned territory. If you don't want this entire map privately owned, I can't take your claim to want to "control the borders" seriously.

[specsaregood]

Yes, illegals pay those.

Because they have to. Maybe we should put toll booths on the borders.

[Danke]

Because they have to. Maybe we should put toll booths on the borders.

Wow, that went over your head.

[Danke]

Well, the complaint you have about Canadian violations of liberty seem to lose their effect when you say that people should be coerced through theft to pay for stocking lakes.

Not just Canadians. Most lake in MN are surrounded by private property. Should they close all public landings? Or maybe they could "tAx" those that come to their lake to fish, via a fishing license?

[Sola_Fide]

Not just Canadians. Most lake in MN are surrounded by private property. Should they close all public landings? Or maybe they could "tAx" those that come to their lake to fish, via a fishing license?

Oh I see what you're saying.

[Danke]

I have a cousin that owns a lot of land in ND. He hunts on his own land, but still gets a license as he supports the system that conserves wild game so hunters can continue to hunt year after year, knowing that for him it is not required.

[Valli6]

If the parents are unable to provide any identification about who they are, how is Texas supposed to issue a legal birth certificate of who the baby is?

Illegal aliens could make up any name and background story they choose. As to those with matriculas - why should American authorities accept ID cards handed out by the consulate of a corrupt place like Mexico - who is only too eager to to export their poor to the U.S.?

This isn't about traveling or doing business, it's about properly identifying who a child belongs to and who his real parents are - not just today, but also years from now.

Do American parents automatically receive birth certificates for their babies without providing proper ID, social security numbers, isurance/medicare/obamacare identifiers, and a certain amount of info about their histories? Don't hospitals do a background check of the info supplied by parents in order to verify that they are who they say they are?

No special treatment for anyone!

[Ender]

If the parents are unable to provide any identification about who they are, how is Texas supposed to issue a legal birth certificate of who the baby is?

Illegal aliens could make up any name and background story they choose. As to those with matriculas - why should American authorities accept ID cards handed out by the consulate of a corrupt place like Mexico - who is only too eager to to export their poor to the U.S.?

This isn't about traveling or doing business, it's about properly identifying who a child belongs to and who his real parents are - not just today, but also years from now.

Do American parents automatically receive birth certificates for their babies without providing proper ID, social security numbers, isurance/medicare/obamacare identifiers, and a certain amount of info about their histories? Don't hospitals do a background check of the info supplied by parents in order to verify that they are who they say they are?

No special treatment for anyone!

So, you believe that all those ID numbers/papers/cards that are unconstitutional and anti-freedom will protect us from the brown people?

We should all be working to eliminate the US fascist state and work on restoring freedom, instead of wanting more.

[Keith and stuff]

I would really like to be able to go to Canada for a hike without the government trying to put me in a cage. I enjoy hiking and once a year I'm at PorcFest, not too far from Canada. Please dear government master, please let me enjoy a hike without being put in a cage. I'll even bring your fancy driver's license with me. Why isn't that enough?

As for the OP, small Texas communities will likely do whatever they want. I doubt the federal government will be able to stop the communities, unless the workers just give up.

[RickyJ]

What exactly does Mexico plan to do about it? Invade Texas, they are already doing that with illegal aliens. They surely don't want a war, we would take Mexico City in one day.

[acptulsa]

What exactly does Mexico plan to do about it? Invade Texas, they are already doing that with illegal aliens. They surely don't want a war, we would take Mexico City in one day.

A better question is why would Mexico want their citizens' babies to have Texas birth certificates?

I think this is just Mexico influencing Texas the only way it possibly can--by using reverse psychology.

[Lord Xar]

"A nation without borders is no nation at all." Ron Paul

Schools overrun, hospitals overrun, city taxes increasing dramatically to deal with all of the welfare...

I get it -- many of you open border advocates stay strong on your philosophy. BUT that mentality coupled with our big government apparatus and its propensity to subsidize welfare will bring you marxism/communism FAR faster than it would bring you capitalism & free market.

The left is doing a great job harvesting voters/sycophants from the legions crossing the border. Overwhelm the host country with those with no community or cultural/history with the host country -- and soon you will have a population in which things like the 2nd amendment matter little. Then the others will fall.

Wise up, just a tad.

[VIDEODROME]

If I had a leadership role in Texas, I'd be so tempted to have Ambulances that can take Mexican women giving birth back to the border. I'm not sure they'd even have to be in Mexico. If they're on the border, I think they're technically between countries.

Almost makes me wonder if Hospitals could just be given and special diplomatic status or something like Embassies.

[anaconda]

Well thankfully they won't be sending cruise missiles or CIA agents in to disrupt it.

Good point - what is the Mexican intelligence agency called? Do they have anything like MI6 or ISI or Mossad or CIA?

[Weston White]

David Duke agrees with you. You must be a white supremacist.

What does race have to do with the legal process of immigration? Is it not an issue having only to do with nationality regardless of the individual's ethnicity? Ergo, many other nations are made up white individuals (e.g., Saxons), and as well are highly racially diverse throughout their populaces.

[Weston White]

Do they pay taxes to stock our lakes so I can enjoy ice fishing? Canadians hate guns, free speech and love ~hugz~


No thanks.

You Hoser!


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[Weston White]

Right. Borders make Kentucky socialists free and Canadian libertarians unfree.

No, so far as immigration is concerned, the former are neither any more nor any less free than the latter.


The labor market should be absolutely free because we are free market capitalists, except when you want to hire someone who is outside of a line drawn on a map. Then the market should be unfree. Yay capitalism!

What does imports and exports have to do with immigration?

[DamianTV]

Borders are merely the edges of Human Farms.

From time to time, it is useful to transfer the occupants of one Human Farm to another Human Farm. By doing so, you can sway political votes of either of the farms to your benefit. You can weaponize the immigration to disrupt the operations of the neighboring farm. You can even displace their entire society if their Human Farmers are stupid enough that they allow one Farm to completely take over another Farm.

Human Farms have Borders, not to keep the occupants of other Farms out, but to KEEP YOU IN. You are the Property of your Farmers. This is all you will ever be to these clowns.

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

So, you believe that all those ID numbers/papers/cards that are unconstitutional and anti-freedom will protect us from the brown people?

We should all be working to eliminate the US fascist state and work on restoring freedom, instead of wanting more.

Then you should agree that the fewer birth certificates (ID papers) issued, the better! So what's the problem here?