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ItsTime
08-12-2015, 11:23 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS05Gk81cZg


While suspects of committing violence have avoided arrest, according to Andrews, innocent protesters have been attacked, as well as Oath Keepers and journalists.

“They fired rubber bullets, teargas, made threats to disarm us, tried to arrest us. Gave us an illegal order to disperse when no one’s breaking the law. They have broken so many laws with Department of Justice directives,” said Andrews.

Source: http://truthinmedia.com/oath-keepers-ferguson-sam-andrews/

Carlybee
08-12-2015, 11:48 AM
How dare they try to disturb the rioting

Dianne
08-12-2015, 11:55 AM
The Southern Poverty Law Center is responsible for the lies spread throughout the media.

Christopher A. Brown
08-12-2015, 12:37 PM
While suspects of committing violence have avoided arrest, according to Andrews, innocent protesters have been attacked, as well as Oath Keepers and journalists.

“They fired rubber bullets, teargas, made threats to disarm us, tried to arrest us. Gave us an illegal order to disperse when no one’s breaking the law. They have broken so many laws with Department of Justice directives,” said Andrews.

Source: http://truthinmedia.com/oath-keepers-ferguson-sam-andrews/

The oath keepers have a conditional agenda because they refuse to discuss Article V and they are really not "keeping the oath". They are selectively NOT following orders that violate clauses of the oath.

There is good evidence there is a conspiracy behind the rioting that leads back to Soros. Meaning those that sent the oath keepers in a competing co conspiracy are not a part of Soros's efforts, and not accepted as such by the people in Fergusen.

A lawful and peaceful revolution (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?471555-A-lawful-and-peaceful-revolution) will undermine both conspiracies and create functional solution to the problem of law enforcement destructive to unalienable rights.

staerker
08-12-2015, 12:47 PM
Oath keepers vs. oath breakers.

phill4paul
08-12-2015, 12:50 PM
The oath keepers have a conditional agenda because they refuse to discuss Article V and they are really not "keeping the oath". They are selectively NOT following orders that violate clauses of the oath.

There is good evidence there is a conspiracy behind the rioting that leads back to Soros. Meaning those that sent the oath keepers in a competing co conspiracy are not a part of Soros's efforts, and not accepted as such by the people in Fergusen.

A lawful and peaceful revolution (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?471555-A-lawful-and-peaceful-revolution) will undermine both conspiracies and create functional solution to the problem of law enforcement destructive to unalienable rights.

http://www.dj-rooms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/djrooms_anim15.gif

Origanalist
08-12-2015, 12:57 PM
http://www.dj-rooms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/djrooms_anim15.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDIPcxTOuxY

Anti Federalist
08-12-2015, 01:21 PM
The oath keepers have a conditional agenda because they refuse to discuss Article V and they are really not "keeping the oath". They are selectively NOT following orders that violate clauses of the oath.

There is good evidence there is a conspiracy behind the rioting that leads back to Soros. Meaning those that sent the oath keepers in a competing co conspiracy are not a part of Soros's efforts, and not accepted as such by the people in Fergusen.

A lawful and peaceful revolution (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?471555-A-lawful-and-peaceful-revolution) will undermine both conspiracies and create functional solution to the problem of law enforcement destructive to unalienable rights.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/4751984/bananas-in-pajamas-lololol-o.gif

thoughtomator
08-12-2015, 02:29 PM
good lesson here about inserting oneself into intractable, longstanding conflicts that one is not a party to

it's like our Middle East policy in a bottle

VegasPatriot
08-12-2015, 02:32 PM
Even though the MSM has been attacking Oath Keepers over the past few days our membership and store sales have gone wild. I have been so busy trying to keep up... it is good to see that so many people are seeing through the BS spewed by so many media outlets.
VP

A Snowball Named Reuters

Tuesday, August 11, 2015, was quite the day for Oath Keepers. On Monday the 10th, four of our members had served as body guards at Ferguson, Missouri, for a news crew from InfoWars dot com. The whole of the Oath Keepers organization did not pile in and clog the streets. Only four Oath Keepers were working that detail, as a favor to journalists who were concerned about their safety.

I say, “only four”, just to denote that the organization did not muster forces for another security detail. The four were acting locally, at the request of InfoWars, and were doing so because there had already been trouble for some journalists in Ferguson. I say, “only four”, but that is not to understate the highly professional work our four Oath Keepers did there. Oath Keepers national is proud of the quiet professionalism, cool-headed methodology, and expert deportment of those four Missouri Oath Keepers.

Led by Sam Andrews, these brave men carried out their mission, and the journalists they were guarding were kept safe in the midst of yet another Ferguson, Missouri, riot. At the core of Sam’s and his pals’ mission were journalists, so let’s talk a bit about journalism in America. I would like to share something from the U.S. Congressional Record of February 9, 1917, page 2947. One may search for this quite easily and bring up many results, but I like the simplicity of how the good folks over at Mindfully.org posted it.

Follow this link to read the full article: http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/a-snowball-named-reuters/

Slave Mentality
08-12-2015, 02:39 PM
The oath keepers have a conditional agenda because they refuse to discuss Article V and they are really not "keeping the oath". They are selectively NOT following orders that violate clauses of the oath.

There is good evidence there is a conspiracy behind the rioting that leads back to Soros. Meaning those that sent the oath keepers in a competing co conspiracy are not a part of Soros's efforts, and not accepted as such by the people in Fergusen.

A lawful and peaceful revolution (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?471555-A-lawful-and-peaceful-revolution) will undermine both conspiracies and create functional solution to the problem of law enforcement destructive to unalienable rights.


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5464/imageroot/Cog%20Infiltration%20Pyramid_0.jpg

Anti Federalist
08-12-2015, 02:49 PM
I have not forgotten your offer, I still am going to send in for the full membership.




Even though the MSM has been attacking Oath Keepers over the past few days our membership and store sales have gone wild. I have been so busy trying to keep up... it is good to see that so many people are seeing through the BS spewed by so many media outlets.
VP

A Snowball Named Reuters

Tuesday, August 11, 2015, was quite the day for Oath Keepers. On Monday the 10th, four of our members had served as body guards at Ferguson, Missouri, for a news crew from InfoWars dot com. The whole of the Oath Keepers organization did not pile in and clog the streets. Only four Oath Keepers were working that detail, as a favor to journalists who were concerned about their safety.

I say, “only four”, just to denote that the organization did not muster forces for another security detail. The four were acting locally, at the request of InfoWars, and were doing so because there had already been trouble for some journalists in Ferguson. I say, “only four”, but that is not to understate the highly professional work our four Oath Keepers did there. Oath Keepers national is proud of the quiet professionalism, cool-headed methodology, and expert deportment of those four Missouri Oath Keepers.

Led by Sam Andrews, these brave men carried out their mission, and the journalists they were guarding were kept safe in the midst of yet another Ferguson, Missouri, riot. At the core of Sam’s and his pals’ mission were journalists, so let’s talk a bit about journalism in America. I would like to share something from the U.S. Congressional Record of February 9, 1917, page 2947. One may search for this quite easily and bring up many results, but I like the simplicity of how the good folks over at Mindfully.org posted it.

Follow this link to read the full article: http://oathkeepers.org/oktester/a-snowball-named-reuters/

VegasPatriot
08-12-2015, 03:02 PM
I have not forgotten your offer, I still am going to send in for the full membership.

+ rep

For those that don't know I helped Stewart start Oath Keepers... my membership number is 3; I've worn many different hats for this organization including producing videos, financing OK's start up, membership coordinator and I am currently OK's store manager as well as on the BOD. So for those here that want to support OK and purchase something from our store it would be greatly appreciated... if you place a note in the comment section when placing your order (something like RPF member) I will make sure to put a few extra goodies in your package (like a few bumper stickers and a pocket constitution).

http://www.oathkeepersgear.net/

Dr.3D
08-12-2015, 03:10 PM
http://www.dj-rooms.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/djrooms_anim15.gif
He seems to be a one trick pony.

Anti Federalist
08-12-2015, 03:13 PM
I got your PM, tried to reply but your PM box is full.

Will do!


+ rep

For those that don't know I helped Stewart start Oath Keepers... my membership number is 3; I've worn many different hats for this organization including producing videos, financing OK's start up, membership coordinator and I am currently OK's store manager as well as on the BOD. So for those here that want to support OK and purchase something from our store it would be greatly appreciated... if you place a note in the comment section when placing your order (something like RPF member) I will make sure to put a few extra goodies in your package (like a few bumper stickers and a pocket constitution).

http://www.oathkeepersgear.net/

AuH20
08-12-2015, 03:20 PM
Jon Schaffer Rocks Oathkeeper Gear. Lifetime member I see

http://www.empmedia.de/cinema/product_teasers/EMP_Iced_Earth.jpg

VegasPatriot
08-12-2015, 03:48 PM
Jon Schaffer Rocks Oathkeeper Gear. Lifetime member I see

http://www.empmedia.de/cinema/product_teasers/EMP_Iced_Earth.jpg

+ rep
I just did a search and found this video interview: https://youtu.be/oyaN77mqkD4

AF... I just cleaned up my mailbox...

Christopher A. Brown
08-12-2015, 04:00 PM
Although modern cognitive infiltration does employ semiotics, it is not the same as the basics which Bernays developed.

what sunstein defines and what is the CGHQ training program, exposed by Snowden at the intercept;

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

uses false social groups where the shear force of numbers and a covert shared agenda makes a social front that misleads then deceives the observer on the web forum.

Bernays used media in very large campaigns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays
An Example:
"Bernays refined and popularized the use of the press release, following its invention by PR man Ivy Lee, who had issued a press release after the 1906 Atlantic City train wreck. One of the most famous campaigns of Bernays was the women's cigarette smoking campaign in 1920s. Bernays helped the smoking industry overcome one of the biggest social taboos of the time: women smoking in public. Women were only allowed to smoke in designated areas, or not at all. Women caught violating this rule were arrested."

Bernays belongs at the bottom of the pyramid, cognitive infiltration of the first kind. Social conditioning.


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5464/imageroot/Cog%20Infiltration%20Pyramid_0.jpg

Firstly, avoid the trap that could prevent critical thinking. Cognitive distortions.

COGNITIVE DISTORTIONS


A) All or nothing thinking- Things are placed in black or white categories.(*) If things are less than perfect self is viewed as failure.


B) Over generalization- Single event is viewed as continuous failure.


C) Mental filter- Details in life (positive or negative) are amplified in importance while opposite is rejected.


D) Minimizing- Perceiving one or opposite experiences (positive or negative) as absolute and maintaining singularity of belief to one or the other.
F) Mind reading- One absolutely concludes that others are reacting positively or negatively without investigating reality.


G) Fortune Telling- Based on previous 5 distortions, anticipation of negative or positive outcome of situations is established
H) Catastrophizing- Exaggerated importance of self's failures and others successes.


I) Emotional reasoning- One feels as though emotional state IS reality of situation.


J) "Should" statements- Self imposed rules about behavior creating guilt at self inability to adhere and anger at others in their inability to conform to self's rules.


K) Labeling:- Instead of understanding errors over generalization is applied.


L) Personalization- Thinking that the actions or statements of others are a reaction to you.


M) Entitlement- Believing that you deserve things you have not earned.

Your signature employs K) labeling and A), "all or nothing thinking". "It's all a sham. All of it." The tendency is to create a mental filter C) Its true however, but it is far better to actually create an understanding.

For example: "Wetiko"
Native American philosopher Jack Forbes explains that the overriding characteristic of a wétiko, a Cree word literally meaning “cannibal,” is “that he consumes other human beings for profit, that is, he is a cannibal”

So yes, but the tools that cognitive infiltrators are, do not really represent that in the same way the word is intended. The true "Wetiko" represent the sociopaths of executive corporatism that design things for profit without regard for their impact on humanity. "Wetiko" is not cognitive infiltration, it is a goal, and agenda and it may be completely unconscious. The reason for that is holding such a goal consciously may be too dark and destructive to human life for the individual to interact normally thusly impair their efforts.

Another consciously held motive acts as a cover in that case. The person thinks "this', or "that" is their motive rather than the elements of "Wetiko".

CaptUSA
08-12-2015, 04:26 PM
Best video I've seen all day. Watch to the end.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vrzZR0PBOI

Christopher A. Brown
08-13-2015, 11:42 AM
Unaccountability appears to be the only mode of interaction. Here is some rep that should be a comment in a thread where I can reply. So I've taken a screen shot of the rep and am posting it.

http://i62.tinypic.com/vxz28y.jpg

Uh, I've asked dozens of times for a description, plan, strategy for an agenda to "take back our country", and NO ONE has ever produced a coherent plan, let alone one that has legal veracity.

Ironically, the plan I present is coherent and it has legal veracity. The very first thing it needs is citizen agreement upon prime constitutional intents.

Do you agree and accept that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?

Apparently there is something too functional about this idea, and people prefer whining and complaining, because it will actually cause no change.

William Tell
08-13-2015, 12:22 PM
Chris, you are the one dong the most whining and complaining, and worse, calling everyone here who has ever done anything productive an agent. You couldn't unify a basket of fruit, let alone a political movement.

Dr.3D
08-13-2015, 12:27 PM
Chris, you are the one dong the most whining and complaining, and worse, calling everyone here who has ever done anything productive an agent. You couldn't unify a basket of fruit, let alone a political movement.
I seriously doubt he is trying to unify. Looks more like he is trying to disrupt.

Origanalist
08-13-2015, 12:33 PM
I seriously doubt he is trying to unify. Looks more like he is trying to disrupt.

He's a sincere American with a mission.

Dr.3D
08-13-2015, 12:34 PM
He's a sincere American with a mission.
The question is, "what kind of mission?"

William Tell
08-13-2015, 12:36 PM
He's a sincere American with a mission.

Do you agree and accept that the purpose of Christopher A. Brown is to unify and instruct us of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?


Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of Christopher A. Brown is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?

Origanalist
08-13-2015, 01:32 PM
Do you agree and accept that the purpose of Christopher A. Brown is to unify and instruct us of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?


Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of Christopher A. Brown is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?


Lol, I'm dying here.

http://img.memecdn.com/do-you-have-a-moment-sir_o_2730557.webp

http://img.memecdn.com/sir-do-you-have-a-moment_c_2631503.webp

Origanalist
08-13-2015, 01:36 PM
Sorry about derailing the thread. This is SOP for these situations now, The police stand down and let the destruction go on and go after anyone with the temerity to try and stop it. It's almost like they want it to happen......

Occam's Banana
08-13-2015, 01:52 PM
Do you agree and accept that the purpose of Christopher A. Brown is to unify and instruct us of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of Christopher A. Brown is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?
..

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to William Tell again.

phill4paul
08-13-2015, 01:58 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to William Tell again...

No worries...


You cannot give Reputation to the same post twice.

So did we change the Cog-Infil InSinCeRe Americans meeting to Waffle house instead of the Golden Corral this month?

CPUd
08-13-2015, 05:22 PM
Unaccountability appears to be the only mode of interaction. Here is some rep that should be a comment in a thread where I can reply. So I've taken a screen shot of the rep and am posting it.

http://i62.tinypic.com/vxz28y.jpg

Uh, I've asked dozens of times for a description, plan, strategy for an agenda to "take back our country", and NO ONE has ever produced a coherent plan, let alone one that has legal veracity.

Ironically, the plan I present is coherent and it has legal veracity. The very first thing it needs is citizen agreement upon prime constitutional intents.

Do you agree and accept that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?

Apparently there is something too functional about this idea, and people prefer whining and complaining, because it will actually cause no change.

http://i.imgur.com/0S3cVuH.jpg

pcosmar
08-13-2015, 05:35 PM
It's almost like they want it to happen......

I have said that from the beginning.

timosman
08-13-2015, 06:22 PM
http://i.imgur.com/0S3cVuH.jpg

Where do I sign up ? :rolleyes:

Christopher A. Brown
08-13-2015, 11:10 PM
Where do I sign up ? :rolleyes:

It's only for people that support liberty, rights and freedom unconditionally, overtly.

Are you sure the requirements aren't too much for you?

Christopher A. Brown
08-13-2015, 11:26 PM
Led by Sam Andrews, these brave men carried out their mission, and the journalists they were guarding were kept safe in the midst of yet another Ferguson, Missouri, riot.

That definitely is a valuable service, and yes, they are very professional.

I'm not happy they banned me from
their first forum for promoting Article V, but I do recognize their courage and professionalism.

Because there are limits to the organizations capacity to discuss the oath, the breadth of what "keeping it" really entails or means, adding LTD after the name would be a more honest presentation. Even if it were a non involved or committed role, the unity they could engender by accountably engaging dialog is needed.

Anti Federalist
08-14-2015, 12:38 AM
I'm not happy they banned me from
their first forum for promoting Article V

How many forums have banned you, over the years?

IIRC, you mentioned JREF, a previous sock puppet account here, Hannity's forum, and now OK's forum.

All for the same basic reasons, correct?

William Tell
08-14-2015, 12:46 AM
How many forums have banned you, over the years?

IIRC, you mentioned JREF, a previous sock puppet account here, Hannity's forum, and now OK's forum.

All for the same basic reasons, correct?

He was banned at DP.

Working Poor
08-14-2015, 07:16 AM
I like Ben Swan's reporting but I hate his web site. I had to unsubscribe from his newsletter because it almost took down my computer. I couldn't read the article because of a pop up that insisted on registering to win 500 in gold doesn't have a "no thanks" button.

SewrRatt
08-14-2015, 07:44 AM
COGNITIVE DISTORTIONS


A) All or nothing thinking- Things are placed in black or white categories.(*) If things are less than perfect self is viewed as failure.




I like how this guy constantly in every post commits the very first cognitive distortion he lists. Thanks for warning us about yourself, Christopher A. Brown!

acptulsa
08-14-2015, 07:57 AM
I like how this guy constantly in every post commits the very first cognitive distortion he lists. Thanks for warning us about yourself, Christopher A. Brown!

This.

Gotta give him props. Not every spammer will tell you exactly what method of establishment-approved mind control he is amateurishly trying to use on you.

erowe1
08-14-2015, 08:07 AM
The oath keepers have a conditional agenda because they refuse to discuss Article V and they are really not "keeping the oath". They are selectively NOT following orders that violate clauses of the oath.

What does refusing to discuss Article V have to do with whether or not they keep their oaths?

tod evans
08-14-2015, 08:27 AM
What does refusing to discuss Article V have to do with whether or not they keep their oaths?

Neither of us know that they're not discussing anything amongst sane individuals..

All there is in evidence is a nutjob claiming they won't discuss it with him when he wants....

Christopher A. Brown
08-14-2015, 12:36 PM
What does refusing to discuss Article V have to do with whether or not they keep their oaths?

I goes you won't be intelligent enough to join, because you are supposed to understand the oath,
Article V is the only way to defend the constitution at this point.

http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/swearing-in-for-military-service.html
The Oath of Enlistment (for enlisted): 

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

When people have to file lawsuits like this,

http://www.foavc.org/reference/doc4.pdf

It's clear that citizens and Article V are going to be the only defense. And soldiers have had lots of opportunity to discuss this, a lawful and peaceful defense of the constitution, but they can't. They are too afraid of command.

http://algoxy.com/ows/soldiersinquiry.html

BTW, no one at oath keepers would even comment. So WTF? Is it okay for soldiers to be given command by an unlawful military authority?

The only lawful military authority for America is one authorized by a constitutional civil government. Seen one of those lately?

Christopher A. Brown
08-14-2015, 12:51 PM
How many forums have banned you, over the years?

IIRC, you mentioned JREF, a previous sock puppet account here, Hannity's forum, and now OK's forum.

All for the same basic reasons, correct?

I've been banned from probably 50 forums, for not giving up with evidence, fact, truth and law. Here is a sample of my work filed in the US district court.

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.disclosure.html

Gives you an idea of how effective you are. Where's your list of forums banned from for the same reasons?

Never been at Hannity. Just tried to register. Will they allow me? Or am I pre banned there too?


He was banned at DP.

And I immediately registered at city-data.com and another forum, where I was pre banned at both. DP is now gone, good riddance! Infested with covert agents or their equivalent prodigy


I like how this guy constantly in every post commits the very first cognitive distortion he lists. Thanks for warning us about yourself, Christopher A. Brown!

The first thing you have to learn, is you MUST quote the distortion if you allege there has been one. Second, the intention of the distortion is what makes it objectionable. Distortions which have a proven correct basis and reasonable facts show it, are merely linguistically efficient. When they are made to deceive of mislead, they are objectionable, even criminal, as in TREASON.


Neither of us know that they're not discussing anything amongst sane individuals..

All there is in evidence is a nutjob claiming they won't discuss it with him when he wants....

Uh, no one here got past being accountable for HOW Americans were intended to unify IF free speech was not to serve the purpose.

Care to give it a try, EVER?

erowe1
08-14-2015, 01:03 PM
I goes you won't be intelligent enough to join
Pardon?



, because you are supposed to understand the oath,
Article V is the only way to defend the constitution at this point.

http://www.military.com/join-armed-forces/swearing-in-for-military-service.html
The Oath of Enlistment (for enlisted): 

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

When people have to file lawsuits like this,

http://www.foavc.org/reference/doc4.pdf

It's clear that citizens and Article V are going to be the only defense. And soldiers have had lots of opportunity to discuss this, a lawful and peaceful defense of the constitution, but they can't. They are too afraid of command.

http://algoxy.com/ows/soldiersinquiry.html

Where is the part that says they have to discuss Article V conventions in order not to violate the oath?

Anti Federalist
08-14-2015, 01:04 PM
I've been banned from probably 50 forums, for not giving up with evidence, fact, truth and law. Here is a sample of my work filed in the US district court.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, the problem lies with you, and not with all of us?

I'm glad RPF has a light hand at the ban hammer, and hope, in time, that maybe you'll see that we're not agents or InSiNcErE, but just do not find much merit in your plan, such as it has been explained.

Christopher A. Brown
08-14-2015, 02:14 PM
Pardon?



Where is the part that says they have to discuss Article V conventions in order not to violate the oath?

OMG!

Defense of the constitution includes "whatever".

And I provided a link showing congress is violating the constitution by not calling a convention. Catch up!

Christopher A. Brown
08-14-2015, 02:17 PM
Did it ever occur to you that maybe, just maybe, the problem lies with you, and not with all of us?

Long ago, way before rpf. When I saw unaccountability, while I am accountable, that dilemma went away.


I'm glad RPF has a light hand at the ban hammer, and hope, in time, that maybe you'll see that we're not agents or InSiNcErE, but just do not find much merit in your plan, such as it has been explained.

So what is the great sacrifice in simply agreeing and accepting that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity required to alter or abolish government destructive to your unalienable rights, like your life?

And in case you've forgotten AGAIN, that is not the only purpose. It's the ultimate purpose, like in - or your dead and all lessor purposes don't matter.

Anti Federalist
08-14-2015, 02:38 PM
Long ago, way before rpf. When I saw unaccountability, while I am accountable, that dilemma went away.

That makes no sense.

Accountable to whom?

Yourself?

God?

Zuul?


So what is the great sacrifice in simply agreeing and accepting that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity required to alter or abolish government destructive to your unalienable rights, like your life?

And in case you've forgotten AGAIN, that is not the only purpose. It's the ultimate purpose, like in - or your dead and all lessor purposes don't matter.

You say you have a great memory, and use it, to pin all us "agents" to the mat.

But you seem to have forgotten that I have agreed to that premise, numerous times already.

Why do you forgot that?

acptulsa
08-14-2015, 03:08 PM
OMG!

Defense of the constitution includes "whatever".

And I provided a link showing congress is violating the constitution by not calling a convention. Catch up!

He said 'defense of the constitution includes "whatever"' but never actually used the word 'whatever' or any of its synonyms. Oath Keepers cannot preserve, protect and defend the Constitution without calling a convention for the purpose of altering or abolishing the Constitution, and the Constitution must call for Congress to call a constitutional convention because you provided a link to you saying so yourself on your own website, therefore your opinion is fact because it's backed up by your opinion.

And there's no point in using mind control techniques because you know them all; you've amateurishly tried to use them all on us. Like when you link your own website to reinforce your hare-brained opinions. And when you claim that anyone who disagrees with you isn't one of the 'cool kids', the way we all remember the bullies doing in elementary school.

Am I caught up yet? And now that I am caught up, will you please stop spamming and let us have an adult conversation already?

tod evans
08-14-2015, 03:27 PM
Uh, no one here got past being accountable for HOW Americans were intended to unify IF free speech was not to serve the purpose.

Care to give it a try, EVER?

Who do you think anyone here should be accountable to?

Use only one word to answer.....



I hold that you are unaccountable!

You are the cognitive infiltrator who attempts to engage others in "peaceful" revolution when the wise men who drafted the constitution, you claim to adhere to, understood full well there can never be a "peaceful" revolution.

Calling for votes in the face of tyranny is, at best chickenshit, at worst a means to try and acquire names....


So I must ask;

Are you Chris Brown a chickenshit or a list making cognitive infiltrator? Or both?

CPUd
08-14-2015, 03:28 PM
http://i.imgur.com/nkmbtcP.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/VpENrnq.jpg?1

acptulsa
08-14-2015, 03:30 PM
Are you Chris Brown a chickenshit or a list making cognitive infiltrator? Or both?

Where's the choice for 'a masochist who loves being pwned and humiliated over and over'?

tod evans
08-14-2015, 03:37 PM
Where's the choice for 'a masochist who loves being pwned and humiliated over and over'?

He'll get confused over a simple choice and try to obfuscate the question as it sits..;)

acptulsa
08-14-2015, 03:45 PM
He'll get confused over a simple choice and try to obfuscate the question as it sits..;)

Well, considering he still thinks we're dazed and confused by his ten-dollar words even after the umpteenth hundred time we've made fun of him for being unable to string them into a coherent sentence, yeah, you're probably right.

Anti Federalist
08-14-2015, 07:24 PM
http://i.imgur.com/nkmbtcP.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/VpENrnq.jpg?1

Plague infested squirrels at Yosemite

About a week ago, officials said a child fell ill with the plague at Yosemite National Park. Now a popular campground there will be closed after several squirrels were killed by the disease.

The plague-infected squirrels were found in the Tuolumne Meadows Campground, about 40 miles west of Crane Flat Campground, where the child was camping with family.

In an “extremely precautionary public health measure,” park officials will apply flea insecticide to rodent burrows. As a result they are closing the campground from noon Monday to noon Friday, Aug. 21.

Christopher A. Brown
08-15-2015, 11:27 AM
That makes no sense.

Accountable to whom?

Yourself?

God?

Zuul?



You say you have a great memory, and use it, to pin all us "agents" to the mat.

But you seem to have forgotten that I have agreed to that premise, numerous times already.

Why do you forgot that?

Accountability doesn't care "to who".

You agreed only to alter or abolish and your agreement with free speech was not that alter or abolish was the ULTIMATE, it was that alex or abolish was not the only purpose. Since then, you've not been accountable to any reason relating to the question or your answer.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?479505-Grandfather-Still-Serving-Life-for-Pot-Following-Mo-Governor%92s-Commutation&p=5946200&viewfull=1#post5946200

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?479618-America-at-Red-Giant-stage&p=5947153&viewfull=1#post5947153

Christopher A. Brown
08-15-2015, 11:36 AM
Where's the choice for 'a masochist who loves being pwned and humiliated over and over'?

The best of you folks do not know what you are doing. And your failure to use reason to justify it shows it.

http://mrsngai.edublogs.org/files/2014/09/Digging-Hole001-2b3x5mi.jpg

No to mention you do not realize that you use cognitive distortions without knowing it.

Christopher A. Brown
08-15-2015, 11:39 AM
Where's the choice for 'a masochist who loves being pwned and humiliated over and over'?

I am Chris Brown that can reasonably back everything I say and do. But you and yours are not even reasonable or accountable enough to admit you read it.

phill4paul
08-15-2015, 11:44 AM
The best of you folks do not know what you are doing. And your failure to use reason to justify it shows it.

No to mention you do not realize that you use cognitive distortions without knowing it.

https://cdn.scratch.mit.edu/static/site/users/avatars/1000/0240.png

Occam's Banana
08-15-2015, 12:44 PM
The best of you folks do not know what you are doing. And your failure to use reason to justify it shows it. No to mention you do not realize that you use cognitive distortions without knowing it.


I am Chris Brown that can reasonably back everything I say and do. But you and yours are not even reasonable or accountable enough to admit you read it.

http://www.somegif.com/gifs/1361357812266904847.GIF

erowe1
08-15-2015, 01:10 PM
OMG!

Defense of the constitution includes "whatever".

And I provided a link showing congress is violating the constitution by not calling a convention. Catch up!

Who are you talking about the Oath Keepers or Congress? Make up your mind.

Also, where in that quote you gave of the oath does it mention "whatever"?

Cissy
08-15-2015, 03:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/nkmbtcP.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/VpENrnq.jpg?1

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/66/669db27dc4436180a2a16e098cafef630807404ad07f31ef8f 958a2951707517.jpg

Anti Federalist
08-15-2015, 09:06 PM
http://crackberry.com/sites/crackberry.com/files/styles/w325/public/images/wallpaper_20071107114920_1623727089.jpg?itok=rbCdj Is7

Anti Federalist
08-15-2015, 09:13 PM
Accountability doesn't care "to who".

Of course it does.

If you are accountable for your monthly expenses, and instead of sending it to payroll, you send it to, I dunno, Miley Cyrus, you're going to be in a bind.

So, to whom are you accountable to?

Anti Federalist
08-15-2015, 09:21 PM
I've been banned from probably 50 forums, for not giving up with evidence, fact, truth and law. Here is a sample of my work filed in the US district court.

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11title_18.disclosure.html

Gives you an idea of how effective you are. Where's your list of forums banned from for the same reasons?

So, being banned, shut out the conversation, dismissed from court and basically regarded as a fruit loop, is now defined as being "effective"?

The 9/11 arguments have all been done on here, years ago.

Anti Federalist
08-17-2015, 01:21 PM
He seems to be a one trick pony.

Been MIA for a few days.

Maybe somebody threw a net over him...

Origanalist
08-17-2015, 01:38 PM
Been MIA for a few days.

Maybe somebody threw a net over him...

Sounds plausible.

Anti Federalist
08-24-2015, 09:32 PM
http://www.somegif.com/gifs/1361357812266904847.GIF

Oh that's hilarious. :D

asurfaholic
08-25-2015, 04:26 AM
My head hurts after reading this thread. I almost forgot we were on a oath keepers thread. My curiosity was is there any news or updates on this attack by police on media and their personnel?

Anti Federalist
01-11-2017, 05:51 PM
Although modern cognitive infiltration does employ semiotics, it is not the same as the basics which Bernays developed.

what sunstein defines and what is the CGHQ training program, exposed by Snowden at the intercept;

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

uses false social groups where the shear force of numbers and a covert shared agenda makes a social front that misleads then deceives the observer on the web forum.

Bernays used media in very large campaigns.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays
An Example:
"Bernays refined and popularized the use of the press release, following its invention by PR man Ivy Lee, who had issued a press release after the 1906 Atlantic City train wreck. One of the most famous campaigns of Bernays was the women's cigarette smoking campaign in 1920s. Bernays helped the smoking industry overcome one of the biggest social taboos of the time: women smoking in public. Women were only allowed to smoke in designated areas, or not at all. Women caught violating this rule were arrested."

Bernays belongs at the bottom of the pyramid, cognitive infiltration of the first kind. Social conditioning.



Firstly, avoid the trap that could prevent critical thinking. Cognitive distortions.

COGNITIVE DISTORTIONS


A) All or nothing thinking- Things are placed in black or white categories.(*) If things are less than perfect self is viewed as failure.


B) Over generalization- Single event is viewed as continuous failure.


C) Mental filter- Details in life (positive or negative) are amplified in importance while opposite is rejected.


D) Minimizing- Perceiving one or opposite experiences (positive or negative) as absolute and maintaining singularity of belief to one or the other.
F) Mind reading- One absolutely concludes that others are reacting positively or negatively without investigating reality.


G) Fortune Telling- Based on previous 5 distortions, anticipation of negative or positive outcome of situations is established
H) Catastrophizing- Exaggerated importance of self's failures and others successes.


I) Emotional reasoning- One feels as though emotional state IS reality of situation.


J) "Should" statements- Self imposed rules about behavior creating guilt at self inability to adhere and anger at others in their inability to conform to self's rules.


K) Labeling:- Instead of understanding errors over generalization is applied.


L) Personalization- Thinking that the actions or statements of others are a reaction to you.


M) Entitlement- Believing that you deserve things you have not earned.

Your signature employs K) labeling and A), "all or nothing thinking". "It's all a sham. All of it." The tendency is to create a mental filter C) Its true however, but it is far better to actually create an understanding.

For example: "Wetiko"
Native American philosopher Jack Forbes explains that the overriding characteristic of a wétiko, a Cree word literally meaning “cannibal,” is “that he consumes other human beings for profit, that is, he is a cannibal”

So yes, but the tools that cognitive infiltrators are, do not really represent that in the same way the word is intended. The true "Wetiko" represent the sociopaths of executive corporatism that design things for profit without regard for their impact on humanity. "Wetiko" is not cognitive infiltration, it is a goal, and agenda and it may be completely unconscious. The reason for that is holding such a goal consciously may be too dark and destructive to human life for the individual to interact normally thusly impair their efforts.

Another consciously held motive acts as a cover in that case. The person thinks "this', or "that" is their motive rather than the elements of "Wetiko".

The Wetiko...not Wendigo...we've been looking for Danke's spirit in the wrong place

Anti Federalist
01-11-2017, 05:54 PM
Squirell!!!