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LibertyEagle
08-12-2015, 02:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s39GDp_YL1g

Brian4Liberty
08-12-2015, 10:47 AM
Yep, an international agreement pushed by crony socialist globalists. Bypass the US treaty ratification process, as the end of national sovereignty is one of their goals.

Anti Federalist
08-12-2015, 02:05 PM
Yep, an international agreement pushed by crony socialist globalists. Bypass the US treaty ratification process, as the end of national sovereignty is one of their goals.

The treaty process is bad enough as it is.

Cannot watch videos where I'm at.

Is it now the accepted process to not even go through the motions of Senate ratifications of treaties?

GunnyFreedom
08-12-2015, 02:26 PM
The treaty process is bad enough as it is.

Cannot watch videos where I'm at.

Is it now the accepted process to not even go through the motions of Senate ratifications of treaties?

Only when the whip says it will pass.

Anti Federalist
08-12-2015, 02:28 PM
Only when the whip says it will pass.

So what do they bypass at that point?

GunnyFreedom
08-12-2015, 02:37 PM
So what do they bypass at that point?
Nothing, if they don't need to. They occasionally keep up appearances when it turns out the Senate will do what they want anyway. If the Senate is NOT going to do what the oligarchy wants, then they bypass everything. In this case it was via statutory law, the "Trade Promotion Authority," or TPA. Apparently if half the House and half the Senate agree with the President, we get to just ignore the whole ⅔ Advise and Consent thing. :p lol

Anti Federalist
08-12-2015, 02:44 PM
Nothing, if they don't need to. They occasionally keep up appearances when it turns out the Senate will do what they want anyway. If the Senate is NOT going to do what the oligarchy wants, then they bypass everything. In this case it was via statutory law, the "Trade Promotion Authority," or TPA. Apparently if half the House and half the Senate agree with the President, we get to just ignore the whole ⅔ Advise and Consent thing. :p lol

That's how it was appearing to me, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't seeing things.

And let me guess, the government judges have declared that the government's action is perfectly legal and constitutional.

GunnyFreedom
08-12-2015, 02:55 PM
That's how it was appearing to me, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't seeing things.

And let me guess, the government judges have declared that the government's action is perfectly legal and constitutional.
I don't think anyone except a disenfranchised Senator would even have standing. Hey maybe Rand could sue McConnell for abandoning his responsibilities of advise and consent. I personally know around 50 disgruntleds who would totally vote for Rand if he struck against Mitch. Lots o people here were pledged to support Rand and the freaked out when he endorsed McConnell and suddenly Rand was Hitler.

Sue Mitch for abrogating his Constitutional duty to Advise and Consent. That'll get the dingbats turned on again. And hell, he just might win and actually kill the TPA and by extension kill the TPP.

Anti Federalist
08-12-2015, 02:58 PM
I don't think anyone except a disenfranchised Senator would even have standing. Hey maybe Rand could sue McConnell for abandoning his responsibilities of advise and consent. I personally know around 50 disgruntleds who would totally vote for Rand if he struck against Mitch. Lots o people here were pledged to support Rand and the freaked out when he endorsed McConnell and suddenly Rand was Hitler.

Sue Mitch for abrogating his Constitutional duty to Advise and Consent. That'll get the dingbats turned on again. And hell, he just might win and actually kill the TPA and by extension kill the TPP.

Harsh times require bold actions.

RonPaulGeorge&Ringo
08-12-2015, 03:38 PM
Is it now the accepted process to not even go through the motions of Senate ratifications of treaties?

Well, it's kind of fucked up bcause you have to remember the sanctions aren't part of a treaty. Congress had passed a law saying the President could issue sanctions. And then a few months ago, Congress passed a law saying the President could take them away (with certain caveats).

pcosmar
08-12-2015, 04:48 PM
CFR?

weren't you one of those knocking "conspiracy theories"?

btw,,
Jeb Bush authored some interesting stuff.. (amnesty,immigration etc.) at the CFR .
You might look at what their next GOP choice has to say.

donnay
08-12-2015, 06:43 PM
Flashback: Alex Jones and his crew have talked about the CFR for years.

CFR's Hart Suggests False Flag Event For Iran War
Tacit warning to Iranian government suggests staged event may be used to ensure "bombs fall on your head"


Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Thursday, Sept 27, 2007

Council on Foreign Relations member Gary Hart, famed for stating that Americans will die en- mass on home soil this century, and for declaring 48 hours after 9/11 that it should be used "to carry out a new world order", has written a scathing letter to the leaders of Iran clearly warning that the U.S. government has a history of staging provocations in order to initiate conflict with other nations and that Iran could be next.

Hart references the sinking of the USS Maine in Havana harbor in 1898, which led to the Spanish American war, as well as the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which was ultimately the catalyst for airstrikes on Vietnam.

Why does Hart reference these two cases? Because they are both examples of staged managed events that were used to coerce the American public into supporting war.

The sinking of the Maine was immediately blamed on the Spanish, with the innovator of yellow journalism William Randolph-Hearst enflaming anti-Spanish sentiment in his papers by definitively claiming that it was a Spanish plot. No reliable evidence was ever produced linking Spain to the event and it is now widely believed that the event was at best a mechanical failure or at worst a false flag operation.

Similarly the Gulf of Tonkin incident saw President Johnson accuse North Vietnamese PT boats of attacking strike carries in the gulf, the USS Maddox and the USS Turner Joy. Documents and tapes released via the Freedom of Information Act have since shown that Johnson knew that there were no PT boats and no attacks, but still went ahead with lying to the American public on national TV to garner support for escalating the war in Vietnam. Johnson also had the NSA fake intelligence data to make it appear as if the two US ships had been lost.

(Article continues below)

Hart, one of the instigators of the Homeland Security apparatus that has evolved since 9/11, then goes on to state that American people are reluctant to go to war unless provoked and coldly remarks "For historians of American wars the question is whether we provoke provocations."

He then mentions the Iraq war and refers to how the public were duped into accepting the invasion via the spectre of 9/11. Hart writes "even in this instance, we were led to believe that the mass murderer of American civilians, Osama bin Laden, was lurking, literally or figuratively, in the vicinity of Baghdad."

To those who do not read history Gary Hart's letter makes for a confusing read, but to those who know anything about staged provocations, the intent is clear. Hart is declaring that the elite controlled US government has attacked countries based on false pretenses in the past and will gladly do so again.

Hart's declarations carry the same sentiment as those of fellow globalist Zbigniew Brzezinski earlier this year. The Former National Security Advisor and founding member of the elite policy making group the Trilateral Commission implicitly warned a Senate Foreign Relations Committee that an attack on Iran could be launched following a staged provocation in Iraq or a false flag terror attack within the U.S.

Brzezinski alluded to the potential for the Bush administration to manufacture a false flag Gulf of Tonkin type incident in describing a "plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran," which would revolve around "some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the US blamed on Iran, culminating in a ‘defensive’ US military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan.”

Texas Congressman and Presidential candidate Ron Paul has also recently warned that a "Gulf of Tonkin like event" may be used to provoke air strikes on Iran as numerous factors collide to heighten expectations that America may soon be embroiled in its third war in six years.

Continued... (http://infowars.net/articles/september2007/270907Hart.htm)

LibertyEagle
08-13-2015, 09:42 PM
CFR?

weren't you one of those knocking "conspiracy theories"?



Conspiracy theories, yes. Conspiracy facts, no. I suggest you keep up by reading the CFR's journal called Foreign Affairs.

LibertyEagle
08-13-2015, 09:43 PM
Flashback: Alex Jones and his crew have talked about the CFR for years.

The JBS was talking about it before Jones was born.

Warrior_of_Freedom
08-13-2015, 10:04 PM
The JBS was talking about it before Jones was born.

this is not a joke. I use Alex Jones to get to sleep. I listen to it for about 15 minutes until I pass out. His show isn't as entertaining as it used to be.

RonPaul4Prez2012
08-13-2015, 10:46 PM
Brian Williams CFR member and a professional liar

makes sense

Zippyjuan
08-13-2015, 11:29 PM
Conspiracy theories, yes. Conspiracy facts, no. I suggest you keep up by reading the CFR's journal called Foreign Affairs.

They often have at least a couple different viewpoints on issues in the articles they publish. There is no single "CFR" position on things.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/

This article actually makes arguments against the Iran deal. http://www.cfr.org/iran/iran-nuclear-agreement-its-consequences/p36864

And this one says Iran should be allowed to build nuclear weapons. https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/iran/2012-06-15/why-iran-should-get-bomb

Article on Ron Paul from the 2012 election: http://blogs.cfr.org/lindsay/2011/04/26/campaign-2012-hello-ron-paul-gop-presidential-candidate/