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Dianne
08-11-2015, 07:26 AM
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/heavily-armed-oath-keepers-inject-unease-riot-hit-085709866.html

FERGUSON, Mo. (Reuters) - Four civilians carrying automatic rifles and sidearms patrolled a riot-torn street in Ferguson, Missouri, early Tuesday, saying they were there to protect a media organization but drawing swift criticism from police and protesters alike.

The appearance of the four men, all white, quickly drew stares in the mostly black neighborhood, which exploded into violence again on Sunday night as protesters marked the police killing of an unarmed black teen a year ago.

The men identified themselves as part of a group called "Oath Keepers," which describes itself as an association of current and former U.S. soldiers and police who aim to protect the U.S. Constitution.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, a non-profit civil rights organization, has described the "Oath Keepers" as a "fiercely anti-government, militaristic group," and St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar condemned their appearance in Ferguson.

"Their presence was both unnecessary and inflammatory," he said, adding that police would work with county prosecutors to see if the men had broken any laws.

Led by a man who gave his name only as John, the group, whose members wore bulletproof vests and carried sidearms in addition to combat-style rifles, said they had come to protect a journalist from the conservative "Infowars.com" Web site.

"There were problems here, there were people who got hurt. We needed to be prepared for that," said the man, who noted that Missouri state laws generally allow the open carrying of heavy weapons of the kind that his group were brandishing.

InfoWars could not be reached for immediate comment.

Ferguson has seen months of violent protest since the fatal shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown by a white police officer a year ago. Sunday night's protests were punctuated by gunfire, with police shooting and critically wounding a man who they said had opened fire on them.

Monday's protests were less chaotic, with about nine people arrested in skirmishes with police that saw protesters throw rocks and bottles at officers.

But many in the crowd questioned the wisdom of openly carrying such heavy weapons into an emotionally charged situation.

"You’re going to bring some uncommissioned citizens, white citizens, into a black community like this? It's disrespectful," said Talal Ahmad, 30, who is black and has been a fixture of the last year's protests, which prompted a Justice Department review that found Ferguson's police department routinely violated city residents' civil rights.

"Here, in a black neighborhood, we’re already living in a state of terror," Ahmad said.

AuH20
08-11-2015, 07:55 AM
uncommissioned citizens? what a tool.

jkob
08-11-2015, 07:57 AM
uncommissioned citizen lol

and these guys are protesting the police now?

Southron
08-11-2015, 07:58 AM
Can't have those "uncommissioned white citizens" in black neighborhoods can we?

kcchiefs6465
08-11-2015, 08:16 AM
'Automatic rifles,' huh?

It's hard to take news articles seriously when they start off with this sort of propagandist nonsense.

Dianne
08-11-2015, 08:30 AM
I won't miss today's infowars. Should be very interesting.

DevilsAdvocate
08-11-2015, 08:38 AM
Surely blacks wouldn't be so racist as to target white citizens in a black neighborhood?

Dianne
08-11-2015, 08:38 AM
You gotta love this:

The Southern Poverty Law Center, a non-profit civil rights organization, has described the "Oath Keepers" as a "fiercely anti-government, militaristic group," and St. Louis County Police Chief Jon Belmar condemned their appearance in Ferguson.

pcosmar
08-11-2015, 09:03 AM
'Automatic rifles,' huh?

It's hard to take news articles seriously when they start off with this sort of propagandist nonsense.



"There were problems here, there were people who got hurt. We needed to be prepared for that," said the man, who noted that Missouri state laws generally allow the open carrying of heavy weapons of the kind that his group were brandishing.

Open Carry is NOT Brandishing.

tod evans
08-11-2015, 09:13 AM
"Heavy weaponry" is the term that twists my knickers...

7.62 is not "heavy weaponry" you fucking morons!

TheTexan
08-11-2015, 10:15 AM
Fortunately, the police were there protecting everybody, so noone got hurt.

Dianne
08-11-2015, 10:31 AM
Alex Jones is saying Infowars did not hire Oath Keepers. He's visibly shaken by this media hit job.

tod evans
08-11-2015, 10:32 AM
Morris Dees is a crafty SOB.......

Lucille
08-13-2015, 09:37 AM
This guy's good.

http://reason.com/blog/2015/08/12/an-oath-keeper-in-ferguson-denounces-abu#fold


But the most interesting clip I've seen this week is this one. Initially it just seems to be a shouting match between an Oath Keeper and a guy who doesn't like the group. But at the 1:43 mark, it turns into an explicit statement from the Oath Keeper about police violence:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6vrzZR0PBOI

Here's a transcript of the man's impromptu speech:


Tamir Rice, a 12-year-old boy in Cleveland, Ohio, was shot by a cop who never should've had a badge. That's the truth. He had an airsoft gun in his hand.

A man on the streets of New York was choked out—was choked out—for not paying his cigarette tax. I ask you a question: Since when, since when, is the penalty for not paying a cigarette tax the death penalty in the United States of America. OK? Since when?

You want to talk about killing black people? I'll talk about it. What about the guy in Cleveland that was in a Walmart holding a pellet rifle, not bothering a single soul, and a policeman runs in and shoots him dead?

Who else do we need to talk about? How many more before we come together and stop this chickenshit bullshit and come together as people and say: Enough of this. Enough of this violence. How many times?

How many times has this got to happen? They killed a white veteran in North Carolina, broke into his home and shot him. They killed a white mental health patient in New Albuquerque [sic], shot him in the back, and the officer's on film on his sergeant's car saying, "I'm gonna shoot that guy the first chance I get." You know? And it just goes on and on and on.

Jon Belmar, the St. Louis County police chief, has described the group's presence in Ferguson as "both unnecessary and inflammatory." St. Louis County Executive Steve Stenger has said he wants to "insure" the Oath Keepers "are not present in the future."

Feelgood
08-13-2015, 10:12 AM
Alex Jones = can't take this thread seriously.

EBounding
08-13-2015, 11:30 AM
Fortunately, the police were there protecting everybody, so noone got hurt.

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Spikender
08-13-2015, 02:43 PM
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The Fallout Boy t-shirt and backwards cap made me think that was a twelve year old girl.

Either way, atta girl.

paleocon1
08-13-2015, 02:57 PM
Evidence in view that they are actual Oath Keepers and not FBI/HSA/CIA provocateurs?

Brian4Liberty
08-13-2015, 03:14 PM
The local cops that wants to disarm Oathkeepers (who are qualified law enforcement) are ironic. They want to violate a law written specifically for law enforcement.


The Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (LEOSA) is a United States federal law, enacted in 2004, that allows two classes of persons—the "qualified law enforcement officer" and the "qualified retired law enforcement officer"—to carry a concealed firearm in any jurisdiction in the United States, regardless of state or local laws...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Enforcement_Officers_Safety_Act