Tenn. movie theater shooting

[tod evans]

More obtuse verbiage....


Gunman who opened fire at Tennessee movie theater killed by police

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/08/05/shots-reportedly-fired-at-tennessee-movie-theater/?intcmp=hpbt1

A gunman who opened fire in a movie theater in suburban Nashville, Tenn. was killed in a shootout with police Wednesday.

There was no immediate information on any possible injuries to theater patrons attending a showing of "Mad Max."

A police department spokesman said the shooter was armed with a gun and a hatchet. When police arrived on the scene, the gunman fired at an officer who then returned fire. A SWAT team also on the scene fired at him, as well.

The man also reportedly left two backpacks that were being examined by hazardous device officers.

A metro police dispatcher told The Tennessean newspaper the shooting was reported at 1:13 p.m. at the Carmike Hickory Hollow Cinema in Antioch, Tennessee.

Nashville Police confirmed in a tweet that an active shooting situation was reported, and the the suspect was dead.

The latest shooting comes about two weeks after a gunman opened fire inside a movie theater in Lafayette, Louisiana, during a screening of the film "Trainwreck." Police said John Russell Houser killed two people and wounded nine others before fatally shooting himself.

[Zippyjuan]

This will start putting a damper on summer box office receipts.

A hatchet and a hand gun and pepper spray? A three handed monster?

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/shooting-reported-at-movie-theater-in-tennessee-suspect-killed-two-injured-1201557289/


Police have confirmed that one suspect is dead after a movie theater shooting outside of Nashville, Tennessee. The man reportedly entered a screening of “Mad Max: Fury Road” carrying a gun and hatchet, and began to attack the audience.

One 58-year-old man was slashed with a superficial wound on his shoulder from the hatchet, said Nashville fire department spokesperson Brian Hass. Two women were treated for pepper spray exposure, along with the man who was cut. There have been no reported deaths, other than the suspect.

The suspect has been confirmed to be a local 51-year-old white male. Witnesses at a nearby business reported seeing one person covered in blood, according to local affiliate WSMV.

Police reportedly arrived within 5 minutes of the attack, which took place at the Carmike 8 Cinemas in Antioch, a suburban community outside of Nashville. The suspect escaped to the back of the theater, where he opened fire on police officers and authorities returned fire, killing the suspect on the scene.

The suspect, wearing a surgical mask, unleashed a thick fog of pepper spray in theater, said Nashville metro police spokesperson Don Aaron. He was wearing a backpack, which will be detonated by a bomb squad.

Was the movie in Sensoround?



The suspect has been confirmed to be a local 51-year-old white male

Lots of angry white men out there these days. Lafayette was also older white male. Suicide by cop since it seems he didn't use his gun until cops showed up (nobody in theater shot)?

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

While they were on twitter did they also take the time to update their facebook status to "Currently in a movie theater shootout, brb"?

[rg17]

Another false flag shooting?

[Zippyjuan]

Another false flag shooting.

But nobody at the theater was shot (except the "shooter").

[phill4paul]

This will start putting a damper on summer box office receipts.


I think Hollywood did that to themselves. A remake of "Vacation", really? Lol.

[Kotin]

I think Hollywood did that to themselves. A remake of "Vacation", really? Lol.

Zing*

[Matt Collins]

Literally a mile and a half from my house

[muh_roads]

But nobody at the theater was shot (except the "shooter").

You know why he said that. The gov't/media likes to keep the recurring theme going of "guns are dangerous".

I'll take MK Ultra for $100, Alex.

Radicalizing stupid people who are down on their luck seems to be a common thing that the CIA likes to instigate into doing something.

[euphemia]

Not far from mine, either. I'm at work.

[CPUd]

This has to have been in Antioch.

[tod evans]

The more I read newz releases about this the more it sounds like the kops killed some guy for being armed and having/using pepper spray.....

Is it now okay to kill kops using the same criteria?

Women? (Most of the women in my family carry pepper spray and are armed)

Is the "surgical mask" a tipping point for killing?

Or is this another "judgement call" that society relies on low IQ government employees to make?

[tod evans]

Killed for a pellet gun and a dull ax....

Served and protected the shit out of him......:mad:



SUSPECT IN LATEST THEATER ATTACK HAD PSYCHOLOGICAL ISSUES

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_THEATER_SHOOTING_TENNESSEE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-08-05-20-45-36

What initially appeared to be another mass shooting at a movie theater ended up being an attack by a disturbed homeless man who wasn't armed with a real gun was eventually shot and killed by police.

Vincente David Montano, 29, bought a ticket for "Mad Max: Fury Road" at a theater in a middle-class community in southern Nashville on Wednesday and entered with pepper spray, an airsoft pellet gun and an ax, Metro Nashville Police spokesman Don Aaron said.

Some of the theatergoers in the audience ran outside and alerted police officers who had responded to a vehicle crash nearby, police said in a news release issued late Wednesday.

South Precinct Officer Jonathan Frith, a six-year veteran, was the first officer to encounter Montano, the news release said. Montano pointed his pellet gun at Frith and pulled the trigger, prompting Frith to fire one round from his patrol rifle in self-defense, the release said. Frith then backed out of the theater while keeping Montano contained inside as SWAT officers responded.

At that point, Montano began to use the pepper spray and officers said they encountered a cloud of it as they entered to take Montano into custody. Montano fired his pellet gun again and four SWAT members fired back, the release said. Montano attempted to flee out the rear door of the theater and as he emerged with ax in hand and started toward officers, five opened fire, according to the release. Montano was struck and killed.

No one other than Montano was killed. One man was cut on the shoulder, evidently by the ax Montano was carrying, and that man, his wife and daughter were treated for pepper spray, Aaron said.

Aaron said police had not uncovered a motive, but he said Montano had been committed for psychiatric treatment at least four times, twice in 2004 and twice in 2007. It wasn't immediately clear why he had been committed or if that commitment was involuntary.

"This individual has had significant psychiatric or psychological issues," Aaron said.

The news release said Montano had been committed at least three times while living in Murfreesboro, Tennessee; that he was reported to have lived in a number of states over the years, including Missouri, Texas, Alabama, Illinois, and Florida; and that he was most recently believed to be homeless.

Aaron also noted that Montano had been arrested in Murfreesboro in 2004 for assault and resisting arrest, and said he was reported as a missing person to the Murfreesboro police department on Monday.

As more details of the attack and Montano's troubled past emerged, it began to appear less likely that he intended to inflict mass casualties such as those attempted by a theater shooter recently in Louisiana and carried out two years ago by a shooter in Colorado.

Instead of a packed house showing a newly released popular film, Montano waged his attack in a theater where only seven others besides himself were present at midday, watching a movie that had already been out for some time. He was armed with a pellet gun, not a weapon with bullets, and chose to use pepper spray, not the gun, when he began his assault. One of Montano's two backpacks was detonated and found to contain a fake bomb, Aaron said. The other backpack contained nothing harmful, according to the news release.

It is impossible to say for sure whether Montano knew that the pellet gun would easily be mistaken for a pistol, which is exactly what authorities say happened.

Aaron said the responding officer thought the gun was real and that he heard popping noises when Montano pulled the trigger, prompting him to fire his service weapon.

"The gun is a very realistic looking gun that strongly resembles a semiautomatic pistol," Aaron said. "If someone confronted you with it, you would think it was a real pistol."

The violence at the Carmike Hickory 8 complex comes about two weeks after a 59-year-old drifter opened fire inside a movie theater in Lafayette, Louisiana, fatally shooting two before killing himself. It also happened while jurors in Colorado decide whether the man who killed 12 and wounded 70 others during a theater shooting in 2012 should get the death penalty.

Such attacks have become all too common, said Metro Nashville Police Chief Steve Anderson.

"To the general public, anywhere we gather there is likely to be an incident," Anderson said. "Obviously, in this day and time we need to be mindful of our circumstances, mindful of our surroundings. But this is maybe what we call the new normal. We can't just shut down America, we can't say we're not going to theaters, we can't say we're not going to church. We carry on. But we need to be mindful of our surroundings as we do that."

The man who received the cut on his shoulder spoke briefly to reporters outside the theater Wednesday afternoon. He was identified only as Steven, Aaron said, because he did not want to bring any more attention to his family.

"The only thing that I would like to say is that I'm eternally grateful to the Metro Police Department for their fast response today, and the fact that no one else got injured other than the person who did this," Steven said.

"And I would also like to thank all the citizens who gathered around us, helped my daughter when we were pepper-sprayed. That kind of gives me a little bit more faith in humanity again."

Steven added that he had "no idea why this gentleman decided to attack us."

The entire event Wednesday lasted less than an hour.

Plumber Chris Nelson was loading his truck for a job near the theater.

"We heard a couple shots, then a few seconds later a couple more," he said. "And then you just hear them fly open."

"You always assume the worst," Nelson said. "I just didn't want it to come here."

The theater complex sits in a commercial area in Antioch, a middle-class community in the southern part of Nashville. It's next to the Global Crossing mall, a past-its-prime shopping area recently upgraded with an ice rink developed by the Nashville Predators professional hockey team.

[phill4paul]

South Precinct Officer Jonathan Frith, a six-year veteran, was the first officer to encounter Montano, the news release said. Montano pointed his pellet gun at Frith and pulled the trigger, prompting Frith to fire one round from his patrol rifle in self-defense, the release said. Frith then backed out of the theater while keeping Montano contained inside as SWAT officers responded.

At that point, Montano began to use the pepper spray and officers said they encountered a cloud of it as they entered to take Montano into custody. Montano fired his pellet gun again and four SWAT members fired back, the release said. Montano attempted to flee out the rear door of the theater and as he emerged with ax in hand and started toward officers, five opened fire, according to the release. Montano was struck and killed.

No one other than Montano was killed. One man was cut on the shoulder, evidently by the ax Montano was carrying, and that man, his wife and daughter were treated for pepper spray, Aaron said.


Wait, wut? So, the brave hero backed out of the theater and contained the gunman inside....with theater goers?

[euphemia]

There were only seven other people in the theater. They all ran out the front door. The hatchet guy tried to escape from the back door.

This was the discount theater, showing Mad Max. It was not the premier of a first-run film. It was also the middle of a work/school day.

[phill4paul]

There were only seven other people in the theater. They all ran out the front door. The hatchet guy tried to escape from the back door.

This was the discount theater, showing Mad Max. It was not the premier of a first-run film. It was also the middle of a work/school day.

The article says that after the cop retreated the gunman used the pepper spray and that several theater goers were treated for pepper spray (and an axe cut). That seems to indicate that there were still theater goers inside after the cop retreated. It also stated that "Some of the theatergoers in the audience ran outside and alerted police officers." Some is not all.

[Dianne]

Another false flag shooting?

It sounds like another training exercise to me. There isn't much discussion about it. These always seem to happen around the same time of the day. If I have FOX on, shootings always take place during the Shepard Smith 3:00 p.m. show.

[CPUd]

This is just a normal day for that part of town. East Nashville, he would have robbed them first. West Nashville, he would have set something on fire.

[Brian4Liberty]

Wait, wut? So, the brave hero backed out of the theater and contained the gunman inside....with theater goers?


The article says that after the cop retreated the gunman used the pepper spray and that several theater goers were treated for pepper spray (and an axe cut). That seems to indicate that there were still theater goers inside after the cop retreated. It also stated that "Some of the theatergoers in the audience ran outside and alerted police officers." Some is not all.

Yeah, that part is not clear at all. It sounds like the cop left some people in there with the "shooter".


South Precinct Officer Jonathan Frith, a six-year veteran, was the first officer to encounter Montano, the news release said. Montano pointed his pellet gun at Frith and pulled the trigger, prompting Frith to fire one round from his patrol rifle in self-defense...Aaron said the responding officer thought the gun was real and that he heard popping noises when Montano pulled the trigger, prompting him to fire his service weapon.

Hate to second guess people in a tense situation like this, but an airsoft gun sounds like a real gun? Suppose if it was a handgun with a silencer...

The other thing to note is that the cop apparently had his AR-15 or other rifle out, thus he was better armed than someone with a pistol.

[Noob]

Now comes in the push for more gun control.

Sen. Cornyn (R-TX) Proposing Gun Background Check Bill


Backed by the National Rifle Association, the Senate's No. 2 Republican leader is introducing legislation that would reward states for sending more information about residents with serious mental problems to the federal background check system for firearms purchasers.

http://www.gopusa.com/news/2015/08/05/sen-cornyn-r-tx-proposing-gun-background-check-bill/?subscriber=1

[phill4paul]

Now comes in the push for more gun control.

Sen. Cornyn (R-TX) Proposing Gun Background Check Bill



http://www.gopusa.com/news/2015/08/05/sen-cornyn-r-tx-proposing-gun-background-check-bill/?subscriber=1

NRA. "Pthu"

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[Anti Federalist]

I think Hollywood did that to themselves. A remake of "Vacation", really? Lol.

Somebody needs to be hoss whipped for that.

There was actually talk of re-making "Jaws" for a little while, until they were shouted down by fans.

[libertarianMoney]

The language choice is fascinating:

"A police department spokesman said the shooter was armed with a gun and a hatchet."

The shooter... the shooter of a fake gun. I can understand shooting at a guy with a pellet gun in the moment but claiming he's a shooter with a gun is a major load of BS. The shooters in this situation are the cops, not him.

"We can't just shut down America, we can't say we're not going to theaters, we can't say we're not going to church. We carry on. But we need to be mindful of our surroundings as we do that."

HAHAHA. "OH NO! ONE GUY WITH A HATCHET WENT CRAZY! SHUT IT ALL DOWN! Shut down America! Close the churches! God is dead! Close the theaters! We're all going to die!" said no one ever.

I think this poor guy has a bit of an inflated sense of the situation he's involved in.

And for the record, I can say I'm not going to theaters. I can't think of one good reason not to say it.

[mrsat_98]

TSA TSA TSA

[euphemia]

Local coverage has been interesting. They have been walking that gun back as fast as they can.

The pepper spray is kind of scary. Anyone can get it, and everyone is vulnerable to it. Once it has been deployed, it doesn't really matter what the other weapon is.

The police spokesman used to work for one of the local TV stations. I kind of expect drama every time he opens his mouth, even if the situation bad to begin with.

[Natural Citizen]

Another false flag shooting?

Seems I read some place that the feller was hearing voices.

[euphemia]

Seems I read some place that the feller was hearing voices.

He was a drifter with a lot of problems. Somehow his "official" residence was the Nashville Union Rescue Mission.

[Noob]

"Stop the Cornyn Gun Control Act" Fax Petition

https://www.nagr.org/2015/CornynGunControl-petition.aspx?pid=NO1b