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enhanced_deficit
07-16-2015, 08:00 PM
While I support freedom, this reckless exercise of freedom to wave flags could start a troubling problem for remainder of DGP term if other cities started to follow OKC protestors.

Protesters Waving Confederate Flags Greet Obama in Oklahoma City

http://www.newsmax.com/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?guid=33ac871c-8f64-4600-8d5f-1734dc11c231&SiteName=Newsmax&maxsidesize=600 (AP)
Thursday, 16 Jul 2015 09:12 AM


Protesters waving Confederate flags greeted President Barack Obama at his hotel in Oklahoma City on Wednesday night, days after he heralded the South Carolina government's decision to remove the flag from state capitol grounds after nine African Americans were shot dead in a Charleston church.
The man who organized the flag display—to the dismay of other onlookers—said he didn't see it as a symbol of racism, according to local NBC affiliate KFOR.

http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/confederate-flag-obama-oklahoma/2015/07/16/id/657373/?Dkt_nbr=125BD-1&nmx_source=Telegraph_Media_group&nmx_medium=widget&nmx_content=96&nmx_campaign=widgetphase2



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https://dakiniland.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/tea-party-confederate-flag-rally.jpg?w=590&h=332

Pericles
07-16-2015, 08:02 PM
That was a LMAO event.

Warrior_of_Freedom
07-16-2015, 08:03 PM
that one guy with the u.s. flag lol his face

Pericles
07-16-2015, 08:06 PM
that one guy with the u.s. flag lol his face

There is a carpetbagger in every crowd.

morfeeis
07-16-2015, 08:30 PM
I'll just never understand flying the flag of a loser...

presence
07-16-2015, 08:32 PM
I'll just never understand flying the flag of a loser...

The south didn't lose. Its just in a temporary state of retreat and will rise again.

:D

William Tell
07-16-2015, 08:34 PM
I'll just never understand flying the flag of a loser...

Some people don't understand having a Ron Paul 2008 or 2012 sticker on your car still, either.

ThePaleoLibertarian
07-16-2015, 08:39 PM
I'll just never understand flying the flag of a loser...
The flag represent the Southern people; a race, a culture, a creed.

enhanced_deficit
07-16-2015, 08:42 PM
I'll just never understand flying the flag of a loser...

That seems like a very controversial statement.




An American General Explains How We Lost In Iraq And Afghanistan (http://onpoint.wbur.org/2014/11/13/lost-iraq-afghanistan-army-general)

https://letustalk.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/obama-flags.jpg

Badger Paul
07-16-2015, 08:43 PM
You got to just love those optics!

Tywysog Cymru
07-16-2015, 08:44 PM
Can't any of you see this is in horrible taste? Why can't they just greet him with Gadsden Flags?


The flag represent the Southern people; a race, a culture, a creed.

It doesn't represent black southerners.

AuH20
07-16-2015, 08:47 PM
I'll just never understand flying the flag of a loser...

A loser that was routinely out-manned 2 to 1 on the battlefield and still almost won. People like underdogs. In fact, if Lt. General Richard Ewell had simply done what Lee told him at Gettysburg, we wouldn't be talking about the Lost Cause.

William Tell
07-16-2015, 08:48 PM
Can't any of you see this is in horrible taste? Why can't they just greet him with Gadsden Flags?



It doesn't represent black southerners.

https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p350x350/249952_10152371988105032_2106553816_n.jpg?oh=d9dc4 d2b9bab7201bc1540da589070ae&oe=56174969

enhanced_deficit
07-16-2015, 08:49 PM
It doesn't represent black southerners.

May depend on who you ask.

http://images.complex.com/complex/image/upload/t_article_image/xdfx1m0szyun8tejoo3q.jpghttp://streetattics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/kanye-confederate-flag-mycolumbus-power.jpg





https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/valdosta-state-university.jpg?w=640&h=355

http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/9/90/9902ae54-779c-5493-9bb0-d7f294dadf24/5444666f77942.image.jpg?resize=620%2C420




http://dnq302jy9hr3g.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/ScreenHunter_948-May.-07-06.59-625x347.jpg

ThePaleoLibertarian
07-16-2015, 08:53 PM
Can't any of you see this is in horrible taste? Why can't they just greet him with Gadsden Flags?
"Lets be good obsequious little beta bootlickers and cater to what the left thinks is good taste!"




It doesn't represent black southerners.
It could. If it doesn't, that's their choice.

AuH20
07-16-2015, 08:59 PM
I think I have had my full of black outrage. It's become ponderous like the Boy Who Cried Wolf. No one is concerned about racism since they have made a mockery of the term.

Warrior_of_Freedom
07-16-2015, 09:08 PM
One crucial thing I noticed about the one with the man flying the U.S. flag is he's flying it upside down

DamianTV
07-16-2015, 09:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/c4pjhGz.jpg
The above flag is the Virginia Battle Flag

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America_(1861-1863).svg/1280px-Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America_(1861-1863).svg.png
This is the REAL Confederate Flag.

Carlybee
07-16-2015, 09:45 PM
Can't any of you see this is in horrible taste? Why can't they just greet him with Gadsden Flags?



It doesn't represent black southerners.


Obviously there were no black southerners there. You do realize some people don't care about PC bullshit right?
God forbid anyone shouldn't show good taste in front of the Dronebomber-in-Chief.

Btw...are you a black southerner?

Warrior_of_Freedom
07-16-2015, 09:47 PM
Obviously there were no black southerners there. You do realize some people don't care about PC bullshit right?
What do you mean? THere were black people in the photograph. What, are they so dark you saw them as a white guy's shadow?

Carlybee
07-16-2015, 09:48 PM
What do you mean? THere were black people in the photograph. What, are they so dark you saw them as a white guy's shadow?

Ok then, obviously they didn't appear to be insulted black southerners.

DFF
07-16-2015, 09:51 PM
It doesn't represent black southerners.

Collectivism and stereotyping have no place in the Liberty movement.

You sir are a racist.

phill4paul
07-16-2015, 09:56 PM
It doesn't represent black southerners.

STFU already... H.K. Edgerton, Karen Cooper. Google.

phill4paul
07-16-2015, 10:01 PM
A loser that was routinely out-manned 2 to 1 on the battlefield and still almost won. People like underdogs. In fact, if Lt. General Richard Ewell had simply done what Lee told him at Gettysburg, we wouldn't be talking about the Lost Cause.

Had friendly fire on May 2nd '63 not led to the death of Stonewall then we might not be talking about a lost cause.

sam1952
07-16-2015, 10:42 PM
Some people don't understand having a Ron Paul 2008 or 2012 sticker on your car still, either.


I have both :D

specsaregood
07-16-2015, 10:58 PM
//

Carlybee
07-16-2015, 11:07 PM
One of the organizers of the protest was black

http://kfor.com/2015/07/15/we-dont-believe-its-a-symbol-of-racism-confederate-flags-fly-downtown-as-president-drives-in/

William Tell
07-16-2015, 11:21 PM
One of the organizers of the protest was black

http://kfor.com/2015/07/15/we-dont-believe-its-a-symbol-of-racism-confederate-flags-fly-downtown-as-president-drives-in/

Oh dear me, I guess the politically correct white people forgot to explain to this poor man that this particular flag can't ever represent men of his ethnicity. :rolleyes:

Carlybee
07-16-2015, 11:26 PM
Oh dear me, I guess the politically correct white people forgot to explain to this poor man that this particular flag can't ever represent men of his ethnicity. :rolleyes:

Oh and correction..he was THE organizer of the rally.

SovereignMN
07-17-2015, 06:35 AM
One crucial thing I noticed about the one with the man flying the U.S. flag is he's flying it upside down

It looks like the blue is on top to me.

jkr
07-17-2015, 06:58 AM
i am gonna be honest here.

the "confederate" flag just looks cool aestheticly
it is simple
it is elegant
its marketable

most flags look like a puked up mess, including "ours", and this one doesnt

too bad about the negative connotations that most have attached it to cause i would trade out the current standard for it in a heartbeat

(fyi, i fly an ohio pendant in lieu of the "american" flag, i have grown to despise it as a meaningless relic that is worshiped as a false idol)

Southron
07-17-2015, 07:02 AM
I'll just never understand flying the flag of a loser...

Vietnam, Iraq?

Weston White
07-17-2015, 07:11 AM
So when are people going to start making an issue over the Mississippi State Flag?


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Flag_of_Mississippi.svg/338px-Flag_of_Mississippi.svg.png

Oh wait...


Mississippi U.S. Sen. Roger Wicker also stated that he believes the state flag of Mississippi should be replaced, saying: "After reflection and prayer, I now believe our state flag should be put in a museum and replaced by one that is more unifying to all Mississippians,” Mr. Wicker said in a statement. “As the descendant of several brave Americans who fought for the Confederacy, I have not viewed Mississippi’s current state flag as offensive. However, it is clearer and clearer to me that many of my fellow citizens feel differently and that our state flag increasingly portrays a false impression of our state to others." Mississippi governor Phil Bryant also weighed in on the controversy, opining that: “A vast majority of Mississippians voted to keep the state's flag, and I don't believe the Mississippi Legislature will act to supersede the will of the people on this issue.”

FloralScent
07-17-2015, 07:20 AM
Can't any of you see this is in horrible taste? Why can't they just greet him with Gadsden Flags?



It doesn't represent black southerners.


So what?

Tywysog Cymru
07-17-2015, 02:52 PM
[Snip]

Okay, every group has its outliers.


May depend on who you ask.

Kanye did that for attention. hat's just what he does.


"Lets be good obsequious little beta bootlickers and cater to what the left thinks is good taste!"

The left doesn't like the Gadsden Flag either.


It could. If it doesn't, that's their choice.

I think you should have a conversation with a black person about the flag.


Obviously there were no black southerners there. You do realize some people don't care about PC bullshit right?
God forbid anyone shouldn't show good taste in front of the Dronebomber-in-Chief.

The left has been calling supporters of limited government and state's rights racists for decades. Flying Confederate Flags gives them more ammunition for this.


Btw...are you a black southerner?

No, I was born to white parents in a border state, and everyone in my family going back 100 years has been white. There is a possibility that I have black ancestors though.


Collectivism and stereotyping have no place in the Liberty movement.

You sir are a racist.

Lol!


STFU already... H.K. Edgerton, Karen Cooper. Google.

Okay, these people exist but I've never met one. I know several minorities who are Conservative and none of them like the Confederate Flag.


So what?

They are southerners too.

Carlybee
07-17-2015, 03:54 PM
I think you should have a conversation with a black person.



No, I was born to white parents in a border state, and everyone in my family going back 100 years


Then why do you feel it necessary to speak for black people? I'm certain they can speak for themselves and they do. Some even speak by wiping their butts with the American flag, calling for burning the Confederate flag, and in some cases, call for exterminating whitey.
I have quite a few black friends who aren't like that and I have no problem saying to them anything I post on here. I give them credit for being adults and forming their own opinions and I expect the same. I could give a flying fig if it "gives leftists ammunition". They use everything as ammunition anyway. I say what I mean and I'm not sugar coating something in order to appease liberals or black people who think they are slaves just because their great great grandpa was. Screw that narrative. This whole thing is ludicrous and once you buy into it, you own it.

Tywysog Cymru
07-17-2015, 04:03 PM
Then why do you feel it necessary to speak for black people? I'm certain they can speak for themselves and they do. Some even speak by wiping their butts with the American flag, calling for burning the Confederate flag, and in some cases, call for exterminating whitey.
I have quite a few black friends who aren't like that and I have no problem saying to them anything I post on here. I give them credit for being adults and forming their own opinions and I expect the same. I could give a flying fig if it "gives leftists ammunition". They use everything as ammunition anyway. I say what I mean and I'm not sugar coating something in order to appease liberals or black people who think they are slaves just because their great great grandpa was. Screw that narrative.

I don't care about the hardcore leftists. The wealthy intellectuals in SF, NY, and Boston are not who I am appealing to. They don't feel threatened by the flag, they just see the pictures and show it to their friends saying "look at those hicks" and laugh. For many blacks the flag is seen as racist and pro-slavery. These people are being harmed even more by big government than whites are. But most of them vote for big government because the left has successfully painted us as racists. And when they see people of our ideological persuasion flying the Confederate Flag, it reinforces that belief. If we are going to ever defeat the Washington machine, we'll need more than just white people.

Carlybee
07-17-2015, 04:09 PM
I don't care about the hardcore leftists. The wealthy intellectuals in SF, NY, and Boston are not who I am appealing to. They don't feel threatened by the flag, they just see the pictures and show it to their friends saying "look at those hicks" and laugh. For many blacks the flag is seen as racist and pro-slavery. These people are being harmed even more by big government than whites are. But most of them vote for big government because the left has successfully painted us as racists. And when they see people of our ideological persuasion flying the Confederate Flag, it reinforces that belief. If we are going to ever defeat the Washington machine, we'll need more than just white people.


I don't care. I don't give in to whiners. My ancestors on my maternal grandma's side walked the Trail of Tears. I'm not whining about the white man's role in that. I wasn't there. I'm responsible for my own destiny. Who is this WE anyway? Do you seriously think the Washington Machine is anything but rigged until the end of time? Seeing how much one has to pander and acquiesce to make any headway in politics should tell you that much. Giving up your free speech and free will shouldn't be a choice you have to make in order to appease people who are too stupid to vote for anything they aren't spoon fed.
Isn't it time these people take some responsibility for their own present and future and stop using the past to scapegoat people?

enhanced_deficit
07-17-2015, 04:24 PM
Kanye did that for attention. hat's just what he does.



Given your knowledge of flag motivations, where these for attention also?

Very serious Flag disrespect caught on camera (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?431097-U-S-drone-strikes-killed-Pakistani-grandmother&p=5277619&viewfull=1#post5277619)


https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/valdosta-state-university.jpg?w=640&h=355



Do you see DPG handlers using political opportunism in this case?

Slave Mentality
07-17-2015, 04:50 PM
About 100 people were posted on an overpass with no exits on I-40 the other day. All were waving and most were holding a confederate flag. I honked and waved for some reason. Prolly rashist!!!

Pretty much anyone sticking it to the man gets good juju from me.

enhanced_deficit
07-17-2015, 04:50 PM
God forbid anyone shouldn't show good taste in front of the Dronebomber-in-Chief.


Bit off topic and not a fan of ddg but could it be he has not been getting good advice from active duty generals:

Retired General: Drones Create More Terrorists Than They Kill (https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/16/retired-general-drones-create-terrorists-kill-iraq-war-helped-create-isis/)

Peace&Freedom
07-17-2015, 05:17 PM
I'll just never understand flying the flag of a loser...

As per Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, "lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for."

TheCount
07-17-2015, 05:43 PM
Collectivism and stereotyping have no place in the Liberty movement.

You sir are a racist.

Are you the pot or the kettle in this situation?


A curated selection of your Youtube likes, for reference:
http://i.imgur.com/49PgsSL.png

CPUd
07-17-2015, 05:50 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFJqZeOkG_c

ifthenwouldi
07-17-2015, 06:02 PM
H.K. Edgerton

FWIW, I'm from the Asheville area, which is well-known for its "eclectic" sensibilities. Yet, pretty much everyone who has seen H.K. Edgerton think he's a loony. Now, that doesn't mean he's wrong, but I wouldn't expect using him as an example to be very beneficial in discussions with most people.

ThePaleoLibertarian
07-17-2015, 08:18 PM
The left doesn't like the Gadsden Flag either.
There's no comparison. I'm not saying you shouldn't fly the Gadsden flag (I own a couple myself), but I think it's a huge mistake to let a bunch of whining leftists dictate your iconography.



I think you should have a conversation with a black person about the flag.
Why? I don't abandon a symbol because the poor wittle fee fees of blacks might be hurt. If a black is offended by it, there are two perfectly resonable courses of action:

A) Get over it

B) Fuck off

DFF
07-17-2015, 08:55 PM
A minority should NEVER dictate to a majority.
And last I checked, blacks only makeup 13% of the US population.

DFF
07-17-2015, 08:58 PM
Are you the pot or the kettle in this situation?
A curated selection of your Youtube likes, for reference:

Count, those are some fantastic videos you pulled up!
I especially like the one with Hitler in color. I'm gonna go watch it right now. :)

TheCount
07-17-2015, 09:05 PM
Count, those are some fantastic videos you pulled up!
I especially like the one with Hitler in color. I'm gonna go watch it right now. :)

If you hadn't deleted your Youtube account, you could have just clicked on your subscriptions to watch it whenever you like.

kcchiefs6465
07-17-2015, 11:18 PM
A minority should NEVER dictate to a majority.
And last I checked, blacks only makeup 13% of the US population.
Lol.

What was it about collectivism, again?

I believe those who wish the flag to remain are the minority, by the way.

Otherwise it wouldn't be much of a discussion (in this society you so admire).

kcchiefs6465
07-17-2015, 11:21 PM
Count, those are some fantastic videos you pulled up!
I especially like the one with Hitler in color. I'm gonna go watch it right now. :)
That was you.

If I remember right, you stopped posting in the thread where The Count exposed you, didn't post much for a few weeks, and then knocked off the blatant racist bullshit for about as long.

Is it the charisma?

Tywysog Cymru
07-18-2015, 08:51 AM
I don't care. I don't give in to whiners. My ancestors on my maternal grandma's side walked the Trail of Tears. I'm not whining about the white man's role in that. I wasn't there. I'm responsible for my own destiny. Who is this WE anyway? Do you seriously think the Washington Machine is anything but rigged until the end of time? Seeing how much one has to pander and acquiesce to make any headway in politics should tell you that much. Giving up your free speech and free will shouldn't be a choice you have to make in order to appease people who are too stupid to vote for anything they aren't spoon fed.
Isn't it time these people take some responsibility for their own present and future and stop using the past to scapegoat people?

So do we just give up?

And when did I argue against free speech? I was just expressing my opinion that something was in bad taste.


Given your knowledge of flag motivations, where these for attention also?

Very serious Flag disrespect caught on camera (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?431097-U-S-drone-strikes-killed-Pakistani-grandmother&p=5277619&viewfull=1#post5277619)

Do you see DPG handlers using political opportunism in this case?

I don't know why those individuals did that. They aren't famous celebrities like Kanye West who interrupts awards ceremonies and claims to be Jesus.


There's no comparison. I'm not saying you shouldn't fly the Gadsden flag (I own a couple myself), but I think it's a huge mistake to let a bunch of whining leftists dictate your iconography.

I've seen leftists want to confine the Gadsden Flag to battle reenactments. It also doesn't have the baggage associated with the Confederate Flag.


Why? I don't abandon a symbol because the poor wittle fee fees of blacks might be hurt. If a black is offended by it, there are two perfectly resonable courses of action:

A) Get over it

B) Fuck off

Maybe you should talk to a black person and try to understand why he or she is offended by it.


A minority should NEVER dictate to a majority.
And last I checked, blacks only makeup 13% of the US population.

But the other way around is okay?

Southerners are a minority too.


Count, those are some fantastic videos you pulled up!
I especially like the one with Hitler in color. I'm gonna go watch it right now. :)

So, you love Hitler, the ultimate collectivist?

ThePaleoLibertarian
07-18-2015, 08:59 AM
I've seen leftists want to confine the Gadsden Flag to battle reenactments. It also doesn't have the baggage associated with the Confederate Flag.
The question still remains: Why should we stop displaying the rebel flag just because a bunch of leftists demand it and say it's in poor taste?




Maybe you should talk to a black person and try to understand why he or she is offended by it.
I know why they're offended by it, I just don't give a shit.

Ronin Truth
07-18-2015, 09:42 AM
Hooray for OKC. :D

Carlybee
07-18-2015, 10:08 AM
So do we just give up?

And when did I argue against free speech? I was just expressing my opinion that something was in bad taste.


Giving up is an individual choice.

As for bad taste...who gets to determine what is bad taste? And are you willing to have the bad taste police declare a law against bad taste? Give em an inch.

DFF
07-18-2015, 10:24 AM
I know why they're offended by it, I just don't give a shit.

This pretty much echos my sentiments as well.
I mean, I have things I don't like.
For example, I don't like MLK because he was a Communist controlled by Communist Jews.
He shouldn't have a statue in Washignton or a single street in the entire US named after him.
But I realize there are more pressing issues at hand, like paying down the US' national debt, and restoring sound money.
So I let it go...blacks should do the same about the Confederate Flag.

JK/SEA
07-18-2015, 11:12 AM
A minority should NEVER dictate to a majority.
And last I checked, blacks only makeup 13% of the US population.

I CALL ON EVERYONE WITH A CONSCIENCE TO NEG REP THIS DROOL DONKEY POS.

thank you.

Ronin Truth
07-18-2015, 11:12 AM
This pretty much echos my sentiments as well.
I mean, I have things I don't like.
For example, I don't like MLK because he was a Communist controlled by Communist Jews.
He shouldn't have a statue in Washignton or a single street in the entire US named after him.
But I realize there are more pressing issues at hand, like paying down the US' national debt, and restoring sound money.
So I let it go...blacks should do the same about the Confederate Flag.


FWIW, I really think it's pretty well settled, the debt will NEVER be paid. Government default and repudiation are ultimately inevitable. That's just the weaselly, shyster way the big boys always do things. :p :(

Tywysog Cymru
07-18-2015, 01:34 PM
The question still remains: Why should we stop displaying the rebel flag just because a bunch of leftists demand it and say it's in poor taste?

A lot of Conservatives don't like the flag either, especially non-white or northern conservatives.


I know why they're offended by it, I just don't give a shit.

What is it then, and why don't you care?


Giving up is an individual choice.

As for bad taste...who gets to determine what is bad taste? And are you willing to have the bad taste police declare a law against bad taste? Give em an inch.

Bad taste is using a flag used to protest desegregation to protest a black President. A lot of people will see the flags and it will reinforce their belief that critics of the President are racist.


This pretty much echos my sentiments as well.
I mean, I have things I don't like.
For example, I don't like MLK because he was a Communist controlled by Communist Jews.
He shouldn't have a statue in Washignton or a single street in the entire US named after him.
But I realize there are more pressing issues at hand, like paying down the US' national debt, and restoring sound money.
So I let it go...blacks should do the same about the Confederate Flag.

So, according to DFF, MLK is bad but Hitler is good.

I really hope no one from outside the Liberty movement is reading this thread right now.

Carlybee
07-18-2015, 01:38 PM
Bad taste is using a flag used to protest desegregation to protest a black President. A lot of people will see the flags and it will reinforce their belief that critics of the President are racist.



Well..I suppose if you care about that sort of thing. Some of those same people I'm supposed to care what they think are out there defecating on flags.

TheTexan
07-18-2015, 01:49 PM
http://dnq302jy9hr3g.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/ScreenHunter_948-May.-07-06.59-625x347.jpg

So disrespectful. People gave their lives for that flag and her freedom. She should be arrested. I'm surprised this isn't illegal.

DFF
07-18-2015, 02:00 PM
So, according to DFF, MLK is bad but Hitler is good.
I really hope no one from outside the Liberty movement is reading this thread right now.

MLK had some good points, but they were ultimately overshadowed by his adulterous nature, and the fact, not opinion, but fact that he was a Marxist.
Because of this fact, King's statue in Washington should be torn down, the MLK holiday done away with, and every single MLK street should be renamed George Washington avenue, who unlike plastic-god MLK, was a real American.

Regarding Hitler, one can admire certain things about him without being a Nazi. JFK and Ghandi and many other famous world leaders were Hitler admirers.
Hell, even a lot of the Jews in Israel admire him.

The point is, one can acknowledge the things Hitler did right without ascribing to the National Socialist platform.
But by all means, continue accusing me of being a Hitler "supporter" calling for a return of the Third Reich is that what makes you happy.
I could care less.

Tywysog Cymru
07-18-2015, 02:31 PM
Well..I suppose if you care about that sort of thing. Some of those same people I'm supposed to care what they think are out there defecating on flags.

I care about not actively alienating minorities from the liberty movement.


MLK had some good points, but they were ultimately overshadowed by his adulterous nature, and the fact, not opinion, but fact that he was a Marxist.
Because of this fact, King's statue in Washington should be torn down, the MLK holiday done away with, and every single MLK street should be renamed George Washington avenue, who unlike plastic-god MLK, was a real American.

MLK, from what I understand, was simply a leftist, not a full-blown Communist. If he was alive today I imagine he would have a lot in common with Dennis Kucinich except that he'd probably oppose abortion and SSM.


Regarding Hitler, one can admire certain things about him without being a Nazi. JFK and Ghandi and many other famous world leaders were Hitler admirers.
Hell, even a lot of the Jews in Israel admire him.

Okay, there is no way that you didn't read this on Stormfront.


The point is, one can acknowledge the things Hitler did right without ascribing to the National Socialist platform.
But by all means, continue accusing me of being a Hitler "supporter" calling for a return of the Third Reich is that what makes you happy.
I could care less.

I can't really think of anything Hitler got right. He is literally tied with Stalin as the ultimate authoritarian.

FloralScent
07-18-2015, 03:53 PM
So disrespectful. People gave their lives for that flag and her freedom. She should be arrested. I'm surprised this isn't illegal.

She shouldn't be arrested, but she damn sure shouldn't have police protection. My guess is she wouldn't be nearly so brazen without it. Same goes for the desecrators of the the Confederate flag.

FloralScent
07-18-2015, 04:00 PM
I know several minorities who are Conservative and none of them like the Confederate Flag.

I don't give a fuck what they like or don't like. That's the battle flag of my ancestors and I choose them over the feelings of some hypersensitive strangers. If they are as distraught as they say they are, they should protest in the form of self-immolation and you should show your solidarity by joining them. I'll bring the marshmallows.

Tywysog Cymru
07-18-2015, 04:27 PM
I don't give a fuck what they like or don't like. That's the battle flag of my ancestors and I choose them over the feelings of some hypersensitive strangers. If they are as distraught as they say they are, they should protest in the form of self-immolation and you should show your solidarity by joining them. I'll bring the marshmallows.

If you like that flag, fine. But don't associate it with the struggle for freedom against an ever-growing massively bloated government.

DFF
07-18-2015, 07:51 PM
But don't associate it with the struggle for freedom against an ever-growing massively bloated government.

Why not? Fighting against authoritarianism and government tyranny is what the Confederate flag is all about.
It's the universal symbol of "Fuck YOU." This is why people fly the flag today. It has absolutely nothing to do with slavery.
For the people who wrongly say that it does, and that they're "offended" by it, who ever cared what an idiot thought, anyway?

Tywysog Cymru
07-18-2015, 08:37 PM
Why not? Fighting against authoritarianism and government tyranny is what the Confederate flag is all about.

No it isn't. That's what it means for some people, but for others it represents racism and slavery.


It's the universal symbol of "Fuck YOU." This is why people fly the flag today. It has absolutely nothing to do with slavery.

A lot of people see something different when they see the flag.


For the people who wrongly say that it does, and that they're "offended" by it, who ever cared what an idiot thought, anyway?

Well, if you read the declarations of secession you would get the impression that they seceded over slavery.

Dianne
07-18-2015, 08:52 PM
Vietnam, Iraq?

Don't forget Slavery. The U.S. flag flew over the black slave trade for 100 years, (and still does); whereas the Confederate Flag flew four years.

Warrior_of_Freedom
07-18-2015, 09:04 PM
Don't forget Slavery. The U.S. flag flew over the black slave trade for 100 years, (and still does); whereas the Confederate Flag flew four years.

Yes I brought this up earlier :p but people's position is that the whole point of the confederate flag was to preserve slavery. No one considers the the irony of the situation that people in the north were conscripted to fight against the south. Involuntary servitude to defeat involuntary servitude. :rolleyes:

enhanced_deficit
09-19-2015, 01:16 PM
Here we go again:

Students suspended for clothing displaying Confederate flag
Thursday, Sept. 17, 2015.
By ALANNA DURKIN
Associated Press
About 20 western Virginia high school studentshttp://images.intellitxt.com/ast/adTypes/icon1.png (http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/30058802/students-suspended-for-clothing-displaying-confederate-flag#) were suspended Thursday after holding a rally to protest a new policy banning vehicles with Confederate flag symbols from the school parking lot and refusing to take off clothing displaying the symbol.

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/30058802/students-suspended-for-clothing-displaying-confederate-flag

loveshiscountry
09-19-2015, 07:39 PM
I'll just never understand flying the flag of a loser...
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