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enhanced_deficit
07-16-2015, 07:17 PM
Rules sometimes don't apply to war in Iraq, Marine jury told

It took a Marine jury less than two hours to decide that after 2,627 days behind bars, Sgt. Lawrence Hutchins had been punished enough for killing an unarmed Iraqi man in 2006.
The jury’s sentence Thursday: a bad-conduct discharge and time-served. Prosecutors had asked the jury to impose a dishonorable discharge and additional time in prison, possibly close to four years.

During a daylong penalty phase hearing, jurors heard blunt testimony from a staff sergeant and a major suggesting that, in Iraq, following the official rules of engagement is not always a strategy for coming home alive.
By custom, Marine juries do not discuss their verdicts publicly so it is unknown what influence certain testimony might have had. The jurors – three officers and three senior enlisted personnel – are all veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan, or both.
The two witnesses were Staff Sgt. Saul Lopez and Maj. Zaher Bouza, both veterans of multiple combat deployments.

Lopez served with Hutchins in Hamandiya, Iraq, but was not part of the squad that later was charged with murder. Bouza was born in the Middle East and has made 10 deployments as a Marine to the region, including one to Iraq that concluded only weeks ago.
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“The reality is you have to adapt to the enemy to survive,” he said.
After the killing, attacks against Marines declined, Lopez said. “Everything was really quiet,” Lopez said.
Marines credited Hutchins, the squad leader, he said.
One of the prosecutors, Maj. Samson Newsome, protested that Lopez was suggesting an “ends justify the means” rationale.
“Do you know that every Marine who participated is now a convicted felon?” he asked forcefully.
“They’re alive, sir,” Lopez answered.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-iraqi-killing-20150619-story.html


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RJB
07-16-2015, 07:23 PM
Rules sometimes don't apply to war in Iraq

That is true and applies to all wars. This is the reason why we shouldn't resort to war as often as we do.

enhanced_deficit
07-16-2015, 07:27 PM
That is true and applies to all wars. This is the reason why we shouldn't resort to war as often as we do.

If plenty of cheap raw material is available for an industry, why not expand that industry. Rules of war can be handled separately.

Warrior_of_Freedom
07-16-2015, 07:37 PM
So why isn't Obama behind bars? Or the drone operators? It's convenient to have your soldiers take the blame for everything while you sit back and commit 1000 fold what they did.

Occam's Banana
07-16-2015, 10:04 PM
During a daylong penalty phase hearing, jurors heard blunt testimony from a staff sergeant and a major suggesting that, in Iraq, following the official rules of engagement is not always a strategy for coming home alive.

So you want "official rules of engagement" that are always a "strategy for coming home alive," do you?

Well, then, you shoulda been a cop - that way, you could just off anyone and say you "feared for your safety" ...

phill4paul
07-16-2015, 10:07 PM
2,627 days behind bars for shooting an unarmed person? It'd be nice if cops got at least that.