Shooting at Naval Reserve center in Chatanooga TN

[tangent4ronpaul]

Sounds like a drive by w/ high power rifle
Multiple people in route to hospital

-t

[tangent4ronpaul]

Update:
It was a NG recruitment center in the Bradley Mall.
1 victim, a police officer
Several malls, the local college and the hospital are all on lockdown.
So are some roads and highways.
Unconfirmed, but there was brief mention that the shooter may be on a spree shooting at military storefronts.

-t

[tangent4ronpaul]

Mall lockdown lifted hospital, college still on lockdown
several marines may have been injured.
at least 20 shots fired.

There have been at least 2 separate shooting scenes
Another mil recruiting center about 3 miles away
shooter is dead
5-6 additional victims

-t

[jllundqu]

4 casualties

[Dianne]

I guess the Admin. didn't want to talk about their Iran deal any longer.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Police officer is in stable condition

-t

[fisharmor]

So no silver lining then....

[tangent4ronpaul]

4 marines dead
FBI/BATFE incoming
police officer was shot in the leg. correction shot in ankle Now stable.
There are additional victims
unconfirmed reports of a second person involved.

press conference starting NOW!

-t

[FunkBuddha]

Strangely enough there was a major fiber optic cable cut just south of Chattanooga at around 1pm EST. Theres probably no correlation, but I thought it was interesting.

For a minute there I got concerned that the Georgians were invading Tennessee for our water.

[euphemia]

Senator Bob Corker is from Chattanooga.

[tangent4ronpaul]

Filed under domestic terrorism
FBI now in charge
DHS there too
The investigation is *SECRET*
Threat to community is over
Several HUNDRED FBI agents have been deployed to the scene.
2 separate mil facilities
All killed at first location, sans shooter who died in park
numerous weapons - won't say what they were
will not say why domestic terrorism
back peddling - terrorism vs criminal act (FBI agent in charge)
started 10:45 last till 11:15
locked down peeps may have to spend the night
No fly zone over crime scene
15 mile distance between crime scenes
blindsided - no intel this was going to happen
One reporter is asking about NSA spying real hard (twice), FBI guy consistantly blows off questions and just refers to FBI
Confirmed - victims were marines. Dead.
Now saying all fatalities at second location, 3 wounded at first location.
FBI now saying sole shooter, no second person involved.

-t

[tangent4ronpaul]

Strangely enough there was a major fiber optic cable cut just south of Chattanooga at around 1pm EST. Theres probably no correlation, but I thought it was interesting.

For a minute there I got concerned that the Georgians were invading Tennessee for our water.

Any NSA facilities in the area?
That is happening a lot in CA

-t

[jllundqu]

Strangely enough there was a major fiber optic cable cut just south of Chattanooga at around 1pm EST. Theres probably no correlation, but I thought it was interesting.

For a minute there I got concerned that the Georgians were invading Tennessee for our water.

It's actually Georgia's water... ;) The border was not drawn accurately hence Georgia taking the recent court actions to correct the inaccuracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_River#Water_rights_and_border_dispute_be tween_Georgia_and_Tennessee

[euphemia]

If Georgia would take Memphis, they could have all the water they wanted.

[alucard13mm]

Filed under domestic terrorism
FBI now in charge
DHS there too
The investigation is *SECRET*
Threat to community is over
Several HUNDRED FBI agents have been deployed to the scene.
2 separate mil facilities
All killed at first location, sans shooter who died in park
numerous weapons - won't say what they were
will not say why domestic terrorism
back peddling - terrorism vs criminal act (FBI agent in charge)
started 10:45 last till 11:15
locked down peeps may have to spend the night
No fly zone over crime scene
15 mile distance between crime scenes
blindsided - no intel this was going to happen
One reporter is asking about NSA spying real hard (twice), FBI guy consistantly blows off questions and just refers to FBI
Confirmed - victims were marines. Dead.
Now saying all fatalities at second location, 3 wounded at first location.
FBI now saying sole shooter, no second person involved.

-t
If its classified as domestic terrorism... its gonna be a white guy.

[tangent4ronpaul]

All mil facilities are on "BRAVO" alert status (High). Have been for 2 weeks, even though there is no confirmed threat.
Now the crime scenes are 7 miles apart.

Terrorism theater?

-t

[roho76]

Filed under domestic terrorism
FBI now in charge
DHS there too
The investigation is *SECRET*
Threat to community is over
Several HUNDRED FBI agents have been deployed to the scene.
2 separate mil facilities
All killed at first location, sans shooter who died in park
numerous weapons - won't say what they were
will not say why domestic terrorism
back peddling - terrorism vs criminal act (FBI agent in charge)
started 10:45 last till 11:15
locked down peeps may have to spend the night
No fly zone over crime scene
15 mile distance between crime scenes
blindsided - no intel this was going to happen
One reporter is asking about NSA spying real hard (twice), FBI guy consistantly blows off questions and just refers to FBI
Confirmed - victims were marines. Dead.
Now saying all fatalities at second location, 3 wounded at first location.
FBI now saying sole shooter, no second person involved.

-t

Or is it?

[FunkBuddha]

Any NSA facilities in the area?
-t


None that I'm aware of in Chattanooga, however I'm certain that some of the fiber goes to ORNL.

[Slave Mentality]

It's actually Georgia's water... ;) The border was not drawn accurately hence Georgia taking the recent court actions to correct the inaccuracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_River#Water_rights_and_border_dispute_be tween_Georgia_and_Tennessee

You just try coming across that 35th parallel! It's not called the Georgia River is it?!?

Back to the story: Notice how "lockdown", which is a prison term, is used all the fucking time now? Sickening.

[morfeeis]

Attacking military outlets doesn't sound like domestic terrorism to me, it sound like americans who pledge their allegiances to another country. If they are immigrants who pray on a rug this is going to get entertaining....


edit never mind

BREAKING: Chattanooga Shooting Declared Terror Attack. Suspect is Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez.

Read more: http://controversialtimes.com/news/breaking-chattanooga-shooting-declared-terror-attack-suspect-is-muhammad-youssef-abdulazeez/#ixzz3g5ObGgQo

turns out the scum bag was from AZ, these guys don't have to go to other states if they want to shoot people, but they damn sure have to go to another state to shoot people if they don't want them shooting back. Yeah gun control is working....

[FunkBuddha]

It's actually Georgia's water... ;) The border was not drawn accurately hence Georgia taking the recent court actions to correct the inaccuracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_River#Water_rights_and_border_dispute_be tween_Georgia_and_Tennessee

Sounds to me like Georgia should have been a little bit more concerned about that shit in 1818 instead of waiting until the 1890s.

[FunkBuddha]

double post

[GunnyFreedom]

Apparently the ISIS Twitter account claimed responsibility for the attack, a few minutes BEFORE it happened.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2257852/chattanooga-shooting-isis-twitter-account-warned-of-attack-minutes-before-shooting-authorities-calling-it-terrorism/



Chattanooga Shooting: ISIS Twitter Account Takes Credit For Deadly Attack, Authorities Calling It Terrorism

A Chattanooga shooting may be linked to ISIS, as a Twitter account connected to the Islamist terror group appears to have taken credit for the of bloodshed of Thursday’s deadly shooting.

On Thursday morning at close to 10:45 a.m. a suspect identified as Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez opened fire, killing four individuals and injuring three others, ABC News reported. The gunman was also killed, the city’s mayor said.

http://reho.st/http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Chattanooga-ISIS.jpg

FBI special agent Ed Reinhold said the Chattanooga shootings were being treated as an act of domestic terrorism, but the FBI has reportedly not ruled out an international attack. It is unclear the background for shooting suspect Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez.

see more:

http://www.inquisitr.com/2257852/chattanooga-shooting-isis-twitter-account-warned-of-attack-minutes-before-shooting-authorities-calling-it-terrorism/

[tod evans]

It be dem damn gunz!

Outlawz dem gunz.......

Outlaw Moozlums!

:rolleyes:

[tangent4ronpaul]

It be dem damn gunz!

Outlawz dem gunz.......

Outlaw Moozlums!

:rolleyes:

Outlaw mil recruitment centers!

Remove the targets!

-t

[tod evans]

Outlaw mil recruitment centers!

Remove the targets!

-t

Fuggit!

Outlaw everything!

Except rainbow people and those gingerbread/gender confused morons then everybody will be happy-happy.........

[FunkBuddha]

Apparently the ISIS Twitter account claimed responsibility for the attack, a few minutes BEFORE it happened.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2257852/chattanooga-shooting-isis-twitter-account-warned-of-attack-minutes-before-shooting-authorities-calling-it-terrorism/

Ahh shit. This'll get everyone in the tri-state area (GA/AL/TN) worked up. I wouldn't be surprised if this resulted in a lynching of some sort.

[GunnyFreedom]

It be dem damn gunz!

Outlawz dem gunz.......

Outlaw Moozlums!

:rolleyes:

I was thinking more along the lines of issuing service weapons to recruiters so that they can defend themselves in the event of such attacks.

[GunnyFreedom]

Ahh shit. This'll get everyone in the tri-state area (GA/AL/TN) worked up. I wouldn't be surprised if this resulted in a lynching of some sort.
Brilliant. Lynch people who had no connection whatsoever to the attack. :(

[Dr.3D]

I was thinking more along the lines of issuing service weapons to recruiters so that they can defend themselves in the event of such attacks.
That's my thought too. Why are they not trusted with weapons?

[devil21]

Apparently the ISIS Twitter account claimed responsibility for the attack, a few minutes BEFORE it happened.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2257852/chattanooga-shooting-isis-twitter-account-warned-of-attack-minutes-before-shooting-authorities-calling-it-terrorism/

Of course they did. *yawn*

[FunkBuddha]

Brilliant. Lynch people who had no connection whatsoever to the attack. :(

I don't know if you spent much time down there in the outskirts of Chattanooga but those folks are "different". I'm not saying that they're bad people because they're not, for the most part, but they're also not the most civilized folks. I blame the Georgia influence.

[GunnyFreedom]

That's my thought too. Why are they not trusted with weapons?

I've never understood that. Same issue with that Ft Hood shooter a while back.

[GunnyFreedom]

Of course they did. *yawn*

I'd be more suspicious too, except the claim came before the attack.

[presence]

That's my thought too. Why are they not trusted with weapons?

fear of fratricide

lol

[tangent4ronpaul]

That's my thought too. Why are they not trusted with weapons?

Remember Ft Hood?

Our active duty mil are not trusted with weapons!

ON MILITARY BASES!

-t

[devil21]

dp

[devil21]

I'd be more suspicious too, except the claim came before the attack.

Google:
Rita Katz
Pamela Geller
Operation Gladio

[jllundqu]

Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez

[RJB]

Why are they not trusted with weapons?

Simple. Military recruits (naively) join to defend the constitution.

Police recruits join to enforce decrees that are usually unconstitutional.

[navy-vet]

Arming recruiters goes against their campaign for disarmament. Like promoting industrial hemp, sends the wrong message to the kids.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

That's my thought too. Why are they not trusted with weapons?
Your worth in the armed forces isn't a human one, it's how much money it costs to train you. Ours, anyway.

[alucard13mm]

Im gonna be cold... at least they didnt target civilian establishment and instead went after military. Too bad our military in the usa are soft targets..

Honestly, all our men and women should at least have their service pistols. We have police thugs parading around with handguns and long rifles.

Having soldiers armed walking around might even make people relax a bit around guns if they see it more.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

http://i.imgur.com/vwMin.gif
Wait I think I'm not using this right :o

[enhanced_deficit]

If its classified as domestic terrorism... its gonna be a white guy.

Some others also think it is color-coded media headlining system but complaints are coming from all sides.




Shooters of color are called ‘terrorists’ and ‘thugs.’ Why are white shooters called ‘mentally ill’?

This racist media narrative around mass violence falls apart with the Charleston church shooting.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=http://img.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/cMJGCtQ3_400x400.jpeg&w=80&h=80 (http://antheabutler.com/) By Anthea Butler June 18
Anthea Butler is an associate professor of religion and Africana studies at the University of Pennsylvania.

https://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_908w/2010-2019/Wires/Images/2015-06-18/Reuters/2015-06-18T153746Z_01_TOR600R_RTRIDSP_3_USA-SHOOTING-SOUTH-CAROLINA.jpg&w=1484
Media pundits have already started to use the “mental illness” narrative to characterize suspected shooter Dylann Roof. Why not call him a suspected terrorist?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/06/18/call-the-charleston-church-shooting-what-it-is-terrorism/




It should be noted that "non-racist" WaPo wrote 27 editorials in support of Iraq freedom invasion/revenge attack.

[kahless]

Media pundits have already started to use the “mental illness” narrative to characterize suspected shooter Dylann Roof. Why not call him a suspected terrorist?

It has nothing to do with race. The only reason they say "mental illness" when it is a "white" is that they do not want to give "whites" any ideas. Whites simply dismiss things when you label a suspect "mentally ill".

They start calling it "domestic terrorism" it will motivate copy cats and those sitting on the side lines with other beefs that do not act figuring their act will be dismissed as an act by a mentally ill person.

[Pericles]

I've never understood that. Same issue with that Ft Hood shooter a while back.

I'll play. To arm everyone implies that everyone can and should be entrusted with personal defense as well as defense of the country. When weapons are stored in locked arms rooms, it implies that weapons should only be issued and used when so designated by proper authority. And the individual soldier, Marine, sailor, and airman is not a proper authority.

[kcchiefs6465]

I was thinking more along the lines of issuing service weapons to recruiters so that they can defend themselves in the event of such attacks.
As private citizens, I have no issue with them being armed.

As recruiters, they should get a job that isn't all-around evil.

[alucard13mm]

Some others also think it is color-coded media headlining system but complaints are coming from all sides.

Interesting.. this guy is from Kuwait. I guess they cant call it work related killing :S...

[phill4paul]

I'll play. To arm everyone implies that everyone can and should be entrusted with personal defense as well as defense of the country. When weapons are stored in locked arms rooms, it implies that weapons should only be issued and used when so designated by proper authority. And the individual soldier, Marine, sailor, and airman is not a proper authority.

Same as a citizen. Can't have anyone thinking they are the equal of government.

[Matt Collins]

The sign on the door said "no guns allowed"

[Natural Citizen]

Strangely enough there was a major fiber optic cable cut.

Yep. There sure was. Interesting observation. I'm all out of stickers, though. Snaps. This has been happening a lot as of late. Largely in Silicon Valley.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2943457/another-fiber-optic-cable-severed-by-vandals-slowing-west-coast-internet.html




The latest attack occurred at around 4.30 am Pacific Time near the town of Livermore, about 50 miles east of San Francisco. Someone climbed down a manhole cover there and cut through several fiber optic cables, according to several (http://www.wsj.com/articles/fbi-investigates-new-attack-on-internet-fiber-optic-cables-1435709881)reports (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-sacramento-cables-vandalized-20150630-story.html). The FBI is investigating.

"The cables are operated by backbone providers such as Level 3 Communications, which sell capacity to other cable and Internet providers. The cables carry huge amounts of data, so cutting them can slow services over a wide area.




Recall the very professional assault on an electrical power substation at the very southern end of Silicon Valley in California some time ago. That left that left the region without electrical power for a few hours. The media reported it as an act of vandalism. The problem with that theory was that the so called "vandals" knew exactly what to do and what to target inside the sub-station. They were in and out and gone before law enforcement could even respond. That's rather professional for mere "vandals".

Then the primary internet cable between Flagstaff and Phoenix was cut last year. Again, attributed to "vandals" while it was another in and out job.


Aside - Calif. attacks send warning that Internet lines are 'basically unsecured' (http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/07/01/california-internet-service-restored/29563899/)

Which means that our friends at the FBI are likely not thinking in terms of vandalism. Right? Heh. Anyhow. From the report...





:Experts and the FBI say whoever cut the lines needed tools and expertise, and that it's unlikely the repeated acts are simple vandalism. The attacks generally happened in underground vaults where the cables were protected by sheathing called conduit.

Those underground vaults are rarely monitored, and often sit in remote areas. In many parts of the West, the cables are buried a few feet underground but their routes are marked by waist-high orange poles, and above-ground junction boxes are housed in easily accessible storage sheds. While the Internet was designed to be redundant, there aren't that many backbone cables. Cutting a few could cause widespread disruption."

"The FBI has now reported 11 incidents in the Bay Area over the past year in which people intentionally cut through fiber optic cables. It’s not clear if the attacks are related. Five of the incidents were in Fremont, with others in Berkeley, San Jose and Walnut Creek. The FBI wants people to report any suspicious activity around the time the cables were cut. A list of the previous 10 incidents is here" (https://www.fbi.gov/sanfrancisco/press-releases/2015/fbi-and-local-law-enforcement-seek-publics-assistance-concerning-severed-fiber-optic-cables-in-the-east-bay-and-south-bay)





FBI website and statement: FBI and Local Law Enforcement Seek Public’s Assistance Concerning Severed Fiber Optic Cables in the East Bay and South Bay (https://www.fbi.gov/sanfrancisco/press-releases/2015/fbi-and-local-law-enforcement-seek-publics-assistance-concerning-severed-fiber-optic-cables-in-the-east-bay-and-south-bay)




"The FBI, in a close-working relationship with local law enforcement agencies in the Bay Area, is requesting assistance to identify the individuals responsible for vandalizing fiber optic cables in Fremont, Walnut Creek, Alamo, Berkeley, and San Jose, California. Within the past year, cables were intentionally severed at the following locations:



July 6, 2014, 9:44 p.m. near 7th St. and Grayson St. in Berkeley
July 6, 2014, 11:39 p.m. near Niles Canyon Blvd. and Mission Blvd. in Fremont
July 7, 2014, 12:24 a.m. near Jones Road and Iron Horse Trail in Walnut Creek
July 7, 2014, 12:51 a.m. near Niles Canyon Blvd. and Alameda Creek in Fremont
July 7, 2014, 2:13 a.m. near Stockton Ave. and University Ave. in San Jose
February 24, 2015, 11:30 p.m. near Niles Canyon Blvd. and Mission Blvd. in Fremont
February 24, 2015 11:30 p.m. near Niles Canyon Blvd. and Alameda Creek in Fremont
June 8, 2015, 11:00 p.m. near Danville Blvd. and Rudgear Road in Alamo
June 8, 2015, 11:40 p.m. near Overacker Ave and Mowry Ave in Fremont
June 9, 2015, 1:38 p.m. near Jones Road and Parkside Dr. in Walnut Creek

[ClydeCoulter]

I'll play. To arm everyone implies that everyone can and should be entrusted with personal defense as well as defense of the country. When weapons are stored in locked arms rooms, it implies that weapons should only be issued and used when so designated by proper authority. And the individual soldier, Marine, sailor, and airman is not a proper authority.

I was at a car wash today. There was a guy standing there, perhaps the owner, taking the money and inserting it into the machine for us. He was right in front of us.

I thought, if we were nut crazy we could run over him, kind of like if I had a gun (which I might have) I could shoot him. But, in this case I thought, why don't we see more people driving onto sidewalks killing people since there there so many cars. ?

It's because the majority, the massive majority, of people are not out to kill people, whether with guns, knives, ball bats, or cars.

Everyone is armed, in a sense.

[Dr.3D]

The sign on the door said "no guns allowed"
Might as well, say.... "Shooters won't be resisted."

[puppetmaster]

Did clinton ban guns on bases?

[devil21]

Media can't seem to decide how to spell the shooter's name. I've seen 4 variations so far. Good thing about those muslim names.....can change the spelling however you want and screw up search results. It took me forever to find his alleged booking record, only to find out that the name he was booked under for DUI on 4/20 was very different spelling than the media's stories.

[FunkBuddha]

Yep. There sure was. Interesting observation. I'm all out of stickers, though. Snaps. This has been happening a lot as of late. Largely in Silicon Valley.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2943457/another-fiber-optic-cable-severed-by-vandals-slowing-west-coast-internet.html





FWIW, this doesn't appear to be vandalism. More like a case of track-hoe vs fiber. ~1500 strands of fiber were damaged. Most have been repaired from what I hear.

[Carlybee]

I was at a car wash today. There was a guy standing there, perhaps the owner, taking the money and inserting it into the machine for us. He was right in front of us.

I thought, if we were nut crazy we could run over him, kind of like if I had a gun (which I might have) I could shoot him. But, in this case I thought, why don't we see more people driving onto sidewalks killing people since there there so many cars. ?

It's because the majority, the massive majority, of people are not out to kill people, whether with guns, knives, ball bats, or cars.

Everyone is armed, in a sense.

We have armed crimes here almost daily. Last night a lady was carjacked and when she tried to resist the guy shot her child.

[Carlybee]

.Authorities said Abdulazeez is a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Kuwait. He lives in Hixon, near Chattanooga. He graduated from the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga in 2012 with a degree in electrical engineering.



//

[Natural Citizen]

FWIW, this doesn't appear to be vandalism. More like a case of track-hoe vs fiber. ~1500 strands of fiber were damaged. Most have been repaired from what I hear.

Hm. Yeah, I never heard how that happened. Thanks for the update, though.

[Pericles]

Did clinton ban guns on bases? DoD directive of February 25, 1992 when Bush 41 was President.

[enhanced_deficit]

It is being reported that they were Operation Iraqi Freeedom/Enduring Freedom heroes:


The four Marines killed in the rampage in Chattanooga, Tennessee, served a total of five tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, and one was awarded the Purple Heart.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/chattanooga-shooting/chattanooga-shooting-marines-identify-victims-including-recipient-purple-heart-n393996


Will these be counted as peace time or war time casualties?

TN had lost 95 troops in Iraq war as of last reporting.




Related

Tennessee Iraq War Casualties (https://www.vetfriends.com/memorial/mem_alphab.cfm?War_ID=17&page_id=1&states_id=44)




1. ADKINS, DUSTIN
FINGER, TN
Army
Iraqi Freedom


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2. Alford, Marcus
Knoxville, TN
Army
Iraqi Freedom


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3. BAILEY, NATHAN
NASHVILLE, TN
Army
Iraqi Freedom


...


90. WASHAM, RUSTY
HUNTSVILLE, TN
Marine Corps
Iraqi Freedom


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91. WATTS, CHRISTOPHER
KNOXVILLE, TN
Navy
Iraqi Freedom


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92. WEIR, DAVID
CLEVELAND, TN
Army
Iraqi Freedom


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93. WILLIAMS, LUKE
KNOXVILLE, TN
Army
Iraqi Freedom


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94. WINKLER, HARRY
CLARKSVILLE, TN
Army
Iraqi Freedom


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95. Wright, Darrick
Nashville, TN
Army
Iraqi Freedom

[TheCount]

Will these be counted as peace time or war time casualties?

Based on the first Fort Hood shooting, if it is ruled as terrorism, they will be combat casualties.

[Jan2017]

Apparently the ISIS Twitter account claimed responsibility for the attack, a few minutes BEFORE it happened.

http://www.inquisitr.com/2257852/chattanooga-shooting-isis-twitter-account-warned-of-attack-minutes-before-shooting-authorities-calling-it-terrorism/

Very alarming to have seen that reported along with the simultaneous fiber optic cable trunk line being cut -
but a 12:34pm timestamp would be after, and a 1:34pm time stamp is shown at link below -
Fox showed a 10:34 timestamp for the tweet (sigh).

Fox News journalism at it's worst, as usual, in an event that is bad enough as is.
Fox News Falsely Suggests ISIS Tweeted About Chattanooga Before Attack

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-falsely-reports-that-isis-tweeted-about-chattanooga-before-attack/

[CPUd]

http://i.imgur.com/J1w3sHo.gif

[Dianne]

I can see what's coming down the pike. All the Generals and FOX News saying military must be armed. Obama will remain reluctant, while all the time implementing armed military on U.S. soil. Then the sheeple will become complacent seeing U.S. Army and Marine personnel roaming U.S. streets packing the big guns. Of course, the spin will be they are doing so to protect their own lives, not to take ours'.

[OReich]

It is being reported that they were Operation Iraqi Freeedom/Enduring Freedom heroes:




Will these be counted as peace time or war time casualties?

TN had lost 95 troops in Iraq war as of last reporting.




Related

Tennessee Iraq War Casualties (https://www.vetfriends.com/memorial/mem_alphab.cfm?War_ID=17&page_id=1&states_id=44)




1. ADKINS, DUSTIN
FINGER, TN
Army
Iraqi Freedom


https://www.vetfriends.com/images/blank.gif




2. Alford, Marcus
Knoxville, TN
Army
Iraqi Freedom


https://www.vetfriends.com/images/blank.gif




3. BAILEY, NATHAN
NASHVILLE, TN
Army
Iraqi Freedom


...


90. WASHAM, RUSTY
HUNTSVILLE, TN
Marine Corps
Iraqi Freedom


https://www.vetfriends.com/images/blank.gif




91. WATTS, CHRISTOPHER
KNOXVILLE, TN
Navy
Iraqi Freedom


https://www.vetfriends.com/images/blank.gif




92. WEIR, DAVID
CLEVELAND, TN
Army
Iraqi Freedom


https://www.vetfriends.com/images/blank.gif




93. WILLIAMS, LUKE
KNOXVILLE, TN
Army
Iraqi Freedom


https://www.vetfriends.com/images/blank.gif




94. WINKLER, HARRY
CLARKSVILLE, TN
Army
Iraqi Freedom


https://www.vetfriends.com/images/blank.gif




95. Wright, Darrick
Nashville, TN
Army
Iraqi Freedom



Thank goodness we have enhanced_deficit providing stats for us. Without Holocaust deniers like enhanced_deficit claiming Israel secretly controls ISIS, we wouldn't have any reliable facts on RPF.

[GunnyFreedom]

I can see what's coming down the pike. All the Generals and FOX News saying military must be armed. Obama will remain reluctant, while all the time implementing armed military on U.S. soil. Then the sheeple will become complacent seeing U.S. Army and Marine personnel roaming U.S. streets packing the big guns. Of course, the spin will be they are doing so to protect their own lives, not to take ours'.

Well, I guess I need to be banned from America then.

http://glenbradley.net/imghost/rpf/2015_06JUN/tmg.jpg

[navy-vet]

Well, I guess I need to be banned from America then.

http://glenbradley.net/imghost/rpf/2015_06JUN/tmg.jpg
You have my condolences Gunny, for your loss of your brothers in arms. :(

[Dr.3D]

Mine as well.

[morfeeis]

Well, I guess I need to be banned from America then.

http://glenbradley.net/imghost/rpf/2015_06JUN/tmg.jpg

every person in my family who has served uses that same damn magwell grip and puts the stock on their shoulder like that, i never could and never will. Happy hunting devil dog....

[GunnyFreedom]

every person in my family who has served uses that same damn magwell grip and puts the stock on their shoulder like that, i never could and never will. Happy hunting devil dog....

I do not grip the magwell unless I'm in CQB, because it lets you cut turns quicker and more precisely. I am not gripping the magwell in this photo. As to the shoulder placement, the key is consistency. Consistency leads to precision. If you place your thumb over the top screw hole in the buttstock of an AR/M-16, that should align just below the top peak of your shoulder. Sure, it makes the top of the buttstock stick up above your shoulder a little bit, but it is precise and easily repeatable. You can easily shoot with a different buttstock placement, but it will not be nearly as repeatable.

[Jan2017]

You have my condolences Gunny, for your loss of your brothers in arms. :(


Mine as well.

And mine, on behalf of any and all, other current/ former civilian employees of the Veterans Administration hospitals.

[enhanced_deficit]

This Is The Face Of Terrorism (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?456021-This-Is-The-Face-Of-Terrorism/page2&)
07-18-2014


http://i.imgur.com/3XsIgTL.jpg

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/powerful-pictures-show-familys-grief-3872104

Look at this man's face. "These pictures show the unimaginable grief of a Palestinian father whose son was killed by Israeli shelling.

Four boys - two aged 10 and the others 9 and 11 - were playing on a beach when they were killed in what their uncle Abdel Kareem Baker branded a "cold blooded massacre".

The cousins are among the 224 mostly civilian Palestinians and one Israeli civilian killed in the latest spate of Gaza violence."

Look at him. The grief, the suffering, the horror. There is nothing anybody can do to remedy the pain he is in.

Almost none of us can even begin to imagine this hell storm and how it'd turn your life upside down.

Think about all your problems right now. Payments on your car? Maybe you failed an exam? Think you work too many hours and deserve more money?

..

This is the face of terrorism.

It is this kind of pain that generates the kind of anger and mentality that makes someone decide to commit terrorism.

Here is the kind of truth that drives others to violence. This is one of the children who died in the airstrike. Before you open it, remember i broke the link for a reason. If you really want to know, just delete the X(s) : hXXp://i.imgur.com/yUYjxsv.jpg

I really don't have words for this type of Hell, other than to say that a large portion of American tax dollars goes directly to the Israeli military to fund these sorts of civilian attacks on a massive scale. The pain and suffering I see on these faces convinces me that this needs to change. I may not be able to stop the cycle of violence there, but I can certainly stop funding it.

I can stop funding terrorism and generating more terrorism.

God help this man, and the hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands like him who suffer just like him today.



Does below news resolve the the puzzling question that has baffled US media owners' "experts" since yesterday on what motivated this attacker?

There had been no reporting/speculation in media if this "All American" kid was on any pharmaceutical drugs, so those probably can be ruled out.



Chattanooga shooter changed after Mideast visit, friend says

By Ralph Ellis, Ben Brumfield and Scott Zamost, CNN


Chattanooga, Tennessee (CNN)The man who killed four Marines in Chattanooga, Tennessee, changed after spending time in the Middle East and "distanced himself" for the first few months after returning, a friend says.

"Something happened over there," Abdulrazzak Brizada said of Muhammad Youssuf Abdulazeez, adding that "he never became close to me like he was before he went overseas. ... I'm sure he had something that happened to him overseas."

Abdulazeez was born in Kuwait in September 1990, during the Iraqi invasion of that country, Kuwait's Interior Ministry said.The ministry didn't explain how Abdulazeez came to be born there but said he holds Jordanian citizenship.
Jordanian sources, however, denied that he was a Jordanian citizen, but rather a Palestinian who carried a Jordanian travel document. The sources said he was born Mohammad Youssuf Saeed Hajj Ali on September 5, 1990, but that his father changed his name that year to Abdulazeez.



His former coach in mixed martial arts, Scott Schraeder, thought of him as "all-American."
"There were tears in my eyes," Schraeder said of the moment he heard the news. "He was one of the nicest kids we trained."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/17/us/tennessee-shooter-mohammad-youssuf-abdulazeez/






Related

Obama firmly opposed settlements before Andrew Adler threat scandal (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?458980-Israel-plans-largest-WB-settlement-expansion-in-30-years-Surprising-Obama-response&)

US ‘to boost’ military aid to Israel (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?478471-US-%E2%80%98to-boost%E2%80%99-military-aid-to-Israel-after-Iran-nuclear-deal&)


Daniel Greenfield: Chattanooga shooter possibly linked to Palestinian refugees (https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2015/07/17/daniel-greenfield-chattanooga-shooter-possibly-linked-to-palestinian-refugees/)


Chattanooga Shooter's Sister Self-Described 'Palestinian Muslim', Anti-Israel Activist (http://www.mrctv.org/blog/chattanooga-shooters-sister-describes-herself-palestinian-anti-israel-activist)
Ashley Rae Goldenberg | 13 hours ago
The Chattanooga shooter’s sister, Yasmeen Abdulazeez, is a self-described “Palestinian Muslim” who is engaged in anti-Israel activism, according to her Instagram account.
On Abdulazeez's Instagram (https://instagram.com/yabdulazeez/), which she has since made private, Abdulazeez writes she is a “Palestinian Muslim.”
http://www.mrctv.org/sites/default/files/uploads/Ashley%20Rae/Screen%20Shot%202015-07-17%20at%2010.49.38%20AM.png
Image source: Instagram (https://instagram.com/yabdulazeez/)

Other posts on Abdulazeez’s account are critical of Israel:
http://www.mrctv.org/sites/default/files/uploads/Ashley%20Rae/Screen%20Shot%202015-07-17%20at%2010.49.47%20AM.png

Image source: Instagram (https://instagram.com/yabdulazeez/)
http://www.mrctv.org/sites/default/files/uploads/Ashley%20Rae/Screen%20Shot%202015-07-17%20at%2010.47.15%20AM.png




Let's wait till all the facts come out but from what is known so far, it appears Chattanooga may be another in the long series of terror attacks - including Munich Olypmic Shootings, 67 plane hiajckings, assassination of Bobby Kennedy, WTC 1/2/7, Ft. Hood shooting - linked to Palestinian issue?
It is not clear why no experts in uncontrolled US media have speculated on why so many terror attacks going back decades end up being traced to uprooted Palestinians?



Terrorism's Christian Godfather - Checking in for a flight has never been the same since 1967 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?409735-Checking-in-for-a-flight-has-never-been-the-same-since-1967&)


9/11 was to punish U.S. for Israel policy: Philip Zelikow 9/11 Commission Exec. Dir.



(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHely2_KkC4&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dRtvvzX47VwYbu6X-cQuvMM)

July 25, 2013, 2:59am

Top U.S. General: We Pay a Price for Backing Israel

http://forward.com/image/2/289/0/5/assets/images/articles/b-mattis-072513.jpg (http://forward.com/workspace/assets/images/articles/b-mattis-072513.jpg)

Marine Corps General James Mattis, who retired May 22 as chief of the U.S. Central Command, in charge of U.S. forces in the Middle East, said in a speech at the prestigious Aspen Security Forum in Colorado last Saturday (July 20) that America needs to work “with a sense of urgency” to achieve a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, because resentment of U.S. support for Israel hurts America militarily throughout the region.

He said the “current situation is unsustainable” and that America must act “with a sense of urgency” toward a two-state solution, because the chances “are starting to ebb because of the settlements and where they’re at.” If it fails, he said, the result will be “apartheid.” And then this bombshell:
I paid a military-security price every day as the commander of CentCom because the Americans were seen as biased in support of Israel.

Mattis’ predecessor as chief of CentCom, General David Petraeus, made much the same point in a briefing paper (http://www.armed-services.senate.gov/statemnt/2010/03%20March/Petraeus%2003-16-10.pdf) he submitted to the Senate Armed Services Committee in March 2010, shortly before he handed CentCom over to Mattis. The passage on Israel (on Page 12) caused an explosive reaction (here (http://archive.adl.org/PresRele/IslME_62/5721_62.htm) is what the ADL had to say), though his actual testimony was far more equivocal than his written report.
http://blogs.forward.com/jj-goldberg/181121/top-us-general-we-pay-a-price-for-backing-israel/ (http://blogs.forward.com/jj-goldberg/181121/top-us-general-we-pay-a-price-for-backing-israel/#ixzz2aIDujANT)

[Pericles]

Except that this dude was born in Kuwait, and being Palestine types, probably sided with Iraq in the 1990 invasion of Kuwait, which would have gotten them tossed out of Kuwait thereafter. So, they end up in that great Satan, the USA, where is dad has a job with the US Government. Then this dude takes a trip to Jordan and eventually comes back devoted to Allah.

Looks like US culture does not "take" with certain immigrants.

[navy-vet]

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/29573755/man-armed-guard-recruiting-office

[enhanced_deficit]

Except that this dude was born in Kuwait, and being Palestine types, probably sided with Iraq in the 1990 invasion of Kuwait, which would have gotten them tossed out of Kuwait thereafter. So, they end up in that great Satan, the USA, where is dad has a job with the US Government. Then this dude takes a trip to Jordan and eventually comes back devoted to Allah.

Looks like US culture does not "take" with certain immigrants.

There seem to be some logical problem with this argument. If devotion to Allah leads to terror attacks against US military facilities, then why millions or billions of Allah devotees not born in war zones are not engaged in similar attacks?

Or why would Christians engage in terror attacks targeting Israel and its allies?

Terrorism's Christian Godfather - Checking in for a flight has never been the same since 1967 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?409735-Checking-in-for-a-flight-has-never-been-the-same-since-1967&)


It is more likely that Jordan stay of 6-7 months/Palestinia refugee relatives in Jordan the aftermath of Gaza bloodbath and US support for Gaza war played a major part than devotion to any pie in the sky.

Media reported Sirhan Sirhan ( Bobby Kennedy shooter), Ft Hood shooter, Chatnooga shooter all as Jordanian citizens falsely instead of as Palestinian refugees or their direct descendants.

[Jan2017]

Bad news . . .
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/us/tennessee-naval-reserve-shooting/


U.S. Navy Petty Officer Randall Smith, wounded in a shooting rampage in Tennessee, died early Saturday,
according to a family member. He is the fifth American service member killed in the attack.

Unclear if this was at the first rifle attack site (?)

[navy-vet]

Bad news . . .
http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/us/tennessee-naval-reserve-shooting/



Unclear if this was at the first rifle attack site (?)
Fair winds and following seas fellow shipmate.

[enhanced_deficit]

Leader of our closest ally in the world stands with America in the aftermath of this shooting:

Netanyahu offers solidarity in Chattanooga shooting’s aftermath (http://www.jewishjournal.com/nation/article/netanyahu_offers_solidarity_in_chattanooga_shootin gs_aftermath)

JTA
Jul. 17, 2015 at 9:29 am
http://www.jewishjournal.com/images/made/bf20ff0b6dded448/2015-07-17T145141Z_1981983318_GF10000162242_RTRMADP_3_USA-SHOOTING-TENNESEE_539_332_c1.JPGA man stands with a flag over his heart during a vigil for four slain Marines at the University of Tennessee in Chattanooga college in Chattanooga, Tennessee July 17, 2015. Photo by Tami Chappell/Reuters" height="332" width="539">

A man stands with a flag over his heart during a vigil for four slain Marines at the University of Tennessee in Chattanooga college in Chattanooga, Tennessee July 17, 2015. Photo by Tami Chappell/Reuters


Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel “stands in solidarity with the United States” after the attack on army personnel in Tennessee.
“On behalf of the people and government of Israel, I extend our deepest sympathies to the families of the victims and wish a speedy and full recovery to the wounded,” he said Friday in a statement.


Media reports described Abdulazeez, who, according to the SITE Intelligence Group was born in Kuwait to a Palestinian father from Nablus, as having had a traditional American upbringing, including participation on school sports teams.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/nation/article/netanyahu_offers_solidarity_in_chattanooga_shootin gs_aftermath

(http://www.jewishjournal.com/nation/article/netanyahu_offers_solidarity_in_chattanooga_shootin gs_aftermath)http://s25.postimg.org/rt1lrd98f/We_are_benefiting_from_the_attack_S.gif


Abdulazeez was the third Jordanian-Palestinian to attack US military personnel in six years
http://www.debka.com/article/24751/Abdulazeez-was-the-third-Jordanian-Palestinian-to-attack-US-military-personnel-in-six-years

[devil21]

The facade of this one is crumbling already. Skip Wells not only wasn't killed in Chatanooga, he was reported as being killed in Iraq in 2009. But guess what? He was a guest on Fox News just a few days ago. Nice work to whoever did this video. Some serious fuckery going on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a63Xbu_4wT8

[Dianne]

The facade of this one is crumbling already. Skip Wells not only wasn't killed in Chatanooga, he was reported as being killed in Iraq in 2009. But guess what? He was a guest on Fox News just a few days ago. Nice work to whoever did this video. Some serious fuckery going on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a63Xbu_4wT8

Lawl, and I let my guard down and believed this story. I should have known better.

[Dianne]

I do have to say that I was watching Shep Smith and his cameramen held a scene for almost a minute, where two guys in battle fatigues were laying on the ground as though they were dead. They didn't look dead, and there was no blood anywhere; but they layed there like they were dead. Shep never said a word, but he was nervous... like get that picture the hell off the air. It must have been another training drill, with an opportunity to take guns away from old people on Social Security.

[timosman]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-faces-criticism-taking-five-days-order-white-house-flag-lowered/


July 22, 2015

https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2015/07/22/77d91d99-d1ff-4bef-9ed7-189fb496d875/thumbnail/620x350/99a9e5686fe748ada0a684da2b7911c8/ap219943626706.jpg
The American flag is lowered to half-staff above the White House in Washington, Tuesday, July 21, 2015, to honor the five U.S. service members who were killed by a gunman in Chattanooga, Tenn. last week. President Obama has ordered flags at all military and federal buildings and grounds through out the United States to remain at half-staff through July 25th


Republicans and veterans are questioning why it took President Obama five days to order the flag flying over the White House to be lowered to half-staff in response to the tragedy in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

The order came just hours after the Republican leadership lowered the flag on the Capitol to honor the servicemen killed. So far, the Obama administration has offered no clear answer as to why it took that long.

"Put the flags at half-mast for the five Marines that were just killed. Why?" presidential candidate Donald Trump said.

Rep. Duncan Hunter, a Marine who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, issued a statement shortly before the President's order, calling the wait to lower the nation's banner "unconscionable."

Mr. Obama has publicly addressed the deaths of the five servicemen twice. First from the Oval Office the day it happened and again Tuesday at a veteran's convention in Pittsburgh.

"As a grateful nation, we must stand up for them and honor them, now and forever," Mr. Obama said.

The president has been quick to order the flag lowered after similar tragedies, issuing a proclamation the same day of the 2012 attacks in Benghazi and after 12 were killed at the Washington D.C. Navy Yard. And it was lowered just one day following the Boston Marathon bombings.

But there's no clear protocol as to when or how quickly the President should order the flag lowered. As late as Monday, no decision on Chattanooga had apparently been made.

"I don't have more information about the status of the flag over the White House," White House Press Secretary John Earnest said Monday.

Retired Marine Joey Jones thinks the commander-in-chief owes him and his fellow veterans an explanation.

"Those flags should have been half-staffed days ago," Jones said. "I think that my leader, my president should explain that to me and communicate that to me as both a civilian but also someone directly connected by this tragedy."

White House sources have given some insight into the apparent delay. There were questions about whether the number of victims warranted the lowering of the flag and if serving in the Armed Forces carries the presumption of greater risk. In the Navy Yard shooting, there were more victims, and all were civilians. The flags will remain at half-staff through Saturday.

[devil21]

The facade of this one is crumbling already. Skip Wells not only wasn't killed in Chatanooga, he was reported as being killed in Iraq in 2009. But guess what? He was a guest on Fox News just a few days ago. Nice work to whoever did this video. Some serious fuckery going on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a63Xbu_4wT8

Damn. It's a shame that video was removed. I remember it well! It was an eye opener and one of the first videos that conclusively revealed how these "shooting events" are deep state/military psyops. The "dead" Skip Wells was on Fox News, under a different name, giving commentary days later about the shooting that "Skip Wells" allegedly died in.