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Origanalist
07-14-2015, 11:26 AM
Push for late term abortion anyone?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjxwVuozMnU

At the link above, please see the statement of Priests for Life regarding the new evidence that the abortion industry sells the body parts of unborn children. Priests for Life is grateful to the Center for Medical Progress, and David Daleiden, for doing the undercover work that has brought forward this new evidence.

Priests for Life first came to know of the sale of baby body parts in the late 1990’s through our close collaboration with Mark Crutcher and Life Dynamics, which did the undercover work that first exposed this practice.

Below you can see images of the order forms used for these body parts. Some of the forms request that there be no abnormalities. Many mistakenly think that abortions in later stages of pregnancy are performed only in cases of fetal abnormality.

continued...http://www.priestsforlife.org/babybodyparts/

Origanalist
07-14-2015, 11:27 AM
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Origanalist
07-14-2015, 11:32 AM
Planned Parenthood Doc Deletes Twitter Account After Exposed Selling Aborted Baby Body Parts

After the top doctor at the Planned Parenthood abortion business was exposed describing how the abortion business sells the body parts of aborted babies, ( http://www.lifenews.com/2015/07/14/shock-video-catches-planned-parenthoods-top-doctor-selling-body-parts-of-aborted-babies/ )she has deleted her twitter account to avoid criticism and investigation.

As LifeNews has reported, new undercover footage shows Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Senior Director of Medical Services, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, describing how Planned Parenthood sells the body parts of aborted unborn children and admitting she uses partial-birth abortions to supply intact body parts.

In the video, Nucatola is at a business lunch with actors posing as buyers from a human biologics company. As head of PPFA’s Medical Services department, Nucatola has overseen medical practice at all Planned Parenthood locations since 2009. She also trains new Planned Parenthood abortion doctors and performs abortions herself at Planned Parenthood Los Angeles up to 24 weeks.

SIGN THE PETITION! Congress Must Investigate Planned Parenthood for Selling Aborted Baby Parts

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/07/14/planned-parenthood-doc-deletes-twitter-account-after-exposed-selling-aborted-baby-body-parts/

euphemia
07-14-2015, 11:45 AM
And this is a surprise to anyone? Of all the barbarians on the planet, Planned Parenthood is far and away the worst.

Origanalist
07-14-2015, 11:46 AM
The buyers ask Nucatola, “How much of a difference can that actually make, if you know kind of what’s expected, or what we need?”

“It makes a huge difference,” Nucatola replies. “I’d say a lot of people want liver. And for that reason, most providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps. The kind of rate-limiting step of the procedure is calvarium. Calvarium—the head—is basically the biggest part.”

Nucatola explains, “We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”

“And with the calvarium, in general, some people will actually try to change the presentation so that it’s not vertex,” she continues. “So if you do it starting from the breech presentation, there’s dilation that happens as the case goes on, and often, the last step, you can evacuate an intact calvarium at the end.”///

AuH20
07-14-2015, 11:46 AM
That witch is completely insane?!?!? I expect Mengele to pop on camera at any moment.

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/07/14/shock-video-catches-planned-parenthoods-top-doctor-selling-body-parts-of-aborted-babies/


The footage shockingly depicts the top medical official at the Planned Parenthood corporation munching on her salad while she discusses the sale of body parts of unborn children victimized by abortions. She brazenly describes how the heads of unborn babies killed in abortions command top dollar.

The buyers ask Nucatola, “How much of a difference can that actually make, if you know kind of what’s expected, or what we need?”

“It makes a huge difference,” Nucatola replies. “I’d say a lot of people want liver. And for that reason, most providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps. The kind of rate-limiting step of the procedure is calvarium. Calvarium—the head—is basically the biggest part.”

Nucatola explains, “We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”

“And with the calvarium, in general, some people will actually try to change the presentation so that it’s not vertex,” she continues. “So if you do it starting from the breech presentation, there’s dilation that happens as the case goes on, and often, the last step, you can evacuate an intact calvarium at the end.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjxwVuozMnU

tod evans
07-14-2015, 11:48 AM
Evil bastards :mad:

Origanalist
07-14-2015, 11:49 AM
(ahem, cough, cough)

One post below yours.....http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?478357-Press-Release-Planned-Parenthood-Sells-Body-Parts-Of-The-Babies-They-Kill

AuH20
07-14-2015, 11:52 AM
So get let me get this straight. You kill them for convenience, before they can even utilize their lungs and then you sell their organs on the open market? Even the American slaves didn't have it this bad.

euphemia
07-14-2015, 11:54 AM
Our government permits this and funds this with money they confiscate from me.

tod evans
07-14-2015, 11:57 AM
Our government permits this and funds this with money they confiscate from me.

Yes they do.

Now smile and say thank you....

phill4paul
07-14-2015, 12:02 PM
So get let me get this straight. You kill them for convenience, before they can even utilize their lungs and then you sell their organs on the open market? Even the American slaves didn't have it this bad.

Will the SJW's demand that Planned Parenthood Clinics be torn down now? Will politicians feel the winds of change and demand immediate legislation to address this issue?

Burp...what's on Oprah?

presence
07-14-2015, 12:03 PM
“We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”

often, the last step, you can evacuate an intact calvarium

In William Shawcross (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shawcross)' 2003 book Allies: The United States, Britain, Europe and the War in Iraq, he claimed that Saddam Hussein

"fed people into huge shredders, feet first to prolong the agony".

phill4paul
07-14-2015, 12:03 PM
Our government permits this and funds this with money they confiscate from me.

Only another of many reasons why I am a conscientious objector when it comes to paying taxes.

William Tell
07-14-2015, 12:04 PM
Selling babies livers is all about women's choice. This thread is sexist. Bad kitty. Check your privilege.

Origanalist
07-14-2015, 12:05 PM
Only another of many reasons why I am a conscientious objector when it comes to paying taxes.

I don't like to advertise it but ya, same here.

AuH20
07-14-2015, 12:06 PM
In William Shawcross (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shawcross)' 2003 book Allies: The United States, Britain, Europe and the War in Iraq, he claimed that Saddam Hussein

"fed people into huge shredders, feet first to prolong the agony".

At least Saddam wasn't selling the meat afterwards.

AuH20
07-14-2015, 12:08 PM
Infanticide is highly profitable? Mind is blown.

AuH20
07-14-2015, 12:13 PM
Her life suddenly got very interesting...

http://www.lifenews.com/2015/07/14/planned-parenthood-doc-deletes-twitter-account-after-exposed-selling-aborted-baby-body-parts/

Origanalist
07-14-2015, 12:25 PM
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Origanalist
07-14-2015, 12:27 PM
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William Tell
07-14-2015, 12:29 PM
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Ronin Truth
07-14-2015, 01:25 PM
"Bring out your dead."

And with the leftovers we can make a really nice soylent green casserole. YUM!

William Tell
07-14-2015, 01:32 PM
Breitbart News called Planned Parenthood several times for a comment, as well as Stem Express. Neither returned calls. Nucatola’s Twitter feed was taken down this morning. And at least for a while Planned Parenthood’s media phone number was “out of service.”

According to the US Criminal Code, the buying or selling human body parts is a federal felony.
The commercial traffic of body parts from an aborted baby is punishable by up to 10 years in prison and/or a fine of up to $500,000.


Daleiden promises more revelations in the days to come. He is no stranger to undercover investigations of Planned Parenthood. For five years he was director of research for Live Action, the group headed by Lila Rose that has investigated Planned Parenthood for many years.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/14/planned-parenthood-official-taped-discussing-use-of-aborted-baby-body-parts/

Ronin Truth
07-14-2015, 02:01 PM
Is there an "aborted fetus is not a human" legal loophole? :mad: :p

phill4paul
07-14-2015, 02:08 PM
621015564027338752

Yup.

phill4paul
07-14-2015, 02:13 PM
I don't like to advertise it but ya, same here.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Origanalist again.

At this point...I. Don't. Care. And it gives me no small measure of pure joy knowing that there are others like me. I am not a tax scammer. I am not a tax evader. I am not trying to get anything over on the government. I am a conscientious objector to funding immoral activities. When the immoral activities stop then we can begin discussion about the proper role of government and whether or not a citizen should be forced to fund it.

William Tell
07-14-2015, 02:31 PM
The baby killers are squealing.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/newsroom/press-releases/statement-from-planned-parenthood-on-new-undercover-video

phill4paul
07-14-2015, 02:41 PM
The baby killers are squealing.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/newsroom/press-releases/statement-from-planned-parenthood-on-new-undercover-video

Show us the money. Open your books. Complete transparency. Or STFU.

Sola_Fide
07-14-2015, 02:42 PM
Was there ever a question?

Ronin Truth
07-14-2015, 02:43 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Origanalist again.

At this point...I. Don't. Care. And it gives me no small measure of pure joy knowing that there are others like me. I am not a tax scammer. I am not a tax evader. I am not trying to get anything over on the government. I am a conscientious objector to funding immoral activities. When the immoral activities stop then we can begin discussion about the proper role of government and whether or not a citizen should be forced to fund it.


To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/quotes/authors/t/thomas_jefferson.html)

phill4paul
07-14-2015, 02:53 PM
To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.
Thomas Jefferson (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/quotes/authors/t/thomas_jefferson.html)

404.

Yeah, well he is dead and gone and the SJW's are soon to burn down Monticello.

alucard13mm
07-14-2015, 03:08 PM
Even if this is a good idea for official, legit abortions...

Imagine a woman deliberately getting pregnant to get it aborted to sell the fetus for top dollar. Organs fetch for a pretty price on the market.That is a whole new level of disgust.

William Tell
07-14-2015, 03:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4UjIM9B9KQ

William Tell
07-14-2015, 03:29 PM
Even if this is a good idea for official, legit abortions...

Imagine a woman deliberately getting pregnant to get it aborted to sell the fetus for top dollar. Organs fetch for a pretty price on the market.That is a whole new level of disgust.
Apparently babies aren't that valuable though, she was saying 30-100 bucks for a baby organ. Goat kids often fetch more than that.

wizardwatson
07-14-2015, 03:49 PM
“It makes a huge difference,” Nucatola replies. “I’d say a lot of people want liver. And for that reason, most providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps. The kind of rate-limiting step of the procedure is calvarium. Calvarium—the head—is basically the biggest part.”

So the lawyers will have the courts shoot down legislation like we have had here in Kansas to try to limit body part chopping abortions because it "reduces safe options for a woman", but the doctors and hospitals have no problems altering their procedures in order to make top dollar on harvested organs.

I mean it makes sense, truly. You're going to kill the baby anyway, why would you care if it suffered? But taking measures to preserve it's monetary value as a dead baby, well, that's just good business sense.

People like to ignore this issue I think because when you get down to the nitty gritty it's blatant genocidal thinking and no one wants to admit it. We haven't decided that "life begins at..." whatever. We've simply decided that this class of people who can't defend themselves are worthy of extermination and as a consumable commodity.

They are "excess humans". Worthy of apparently nothing but the recycle bin, now. I guess that's better than just the trash can?

radiofriendly
07-14-2015, 04:01 PM
Full unedited video has also now been posted: http://iroots.org/?p=129765
http://wewantthedebate.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/prochoice-proslavery.png

AuH20
07-14-2015, 04:02 PM
This flag should be getting all the heat.

http://liveactionnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/planned-parenthood-flag-e1432843678384.jpg

Chieppa1
07-14-2015, 04:30 PM
Didn't Pepsi get caught with fetus livers or something a few years ago? This monster stated they are in high demand.

This needs to get beyond viral. Just keep sending it to Rachel Maddow until she quits Twitter.

bunklocoempire
07-14-2015, 05:01 PM
The baby killers are squealing.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/newsroom/press-releases/statement-from-planned-parenthood-on-new-undercover-video


“In health care, patients sometimes want to donate tissue to scientific research that can help lead to medical breakthroughs, such as treatments and cures for serious diseases. Women at Planned Parenthood who have abortions are no different..."

Their own tissue or somebody else's?

euphemia
07-14-2015, 05:10 PM
If patients want to donate tissue, fine. Planned Parenthood should not be brokering deals to sell "donated" tissue. I would like to see all those signed donor releases.

tod evans
07-14-2015, 05:14 PM
Made Faux-Newz;


SHOCK VIDEO: Planned Parenthood sells dead baby body parts

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/14/shock-video-planned-parenthood-sells-dead-baby-body-parts/

The video is gruesome and appalling.

It purportedly shows a Planned Parenthood executive sipping a glass of wine in a Los Angeles restaurant while casually explaining how they sell body parts from aborted babies.

The undercover video was filmed in July 2014 by the Center for Medical Progress, an advocacy group that reports on medical ethics. They dispatched two actors posing as representatives of a human biologics company to a business lunch with Deborah Nucatola, Planned Parenthood’s senior director of medical services.

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The video shows Nucatola describing in graphic detail how abortionists are able to harvest organs from aborted babies based on the parts that are needed.

“Yesterday was the first time she said people wanted lungs,” she told the undercover buyers. “Some people want lower extremities, too, which, that’s simple. That’s easy. I don’t know what they’re doing with it, I guess if they want muscle.”

To which one of the fake buyer’s replied, “Yeah - a dime a dozen.”

“I’d say a lot of people want liver,” Nucatola said. “And for that reason, most providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps.”

She went on to describe how they are able to acquire other organs without “crushing” them.

“We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”

Understand this – she is talking about an unborn baby, folks.

Planned Parenthood issued a statement denying they’ve done anything wrong and accused the Center for Medical Progress of releasing a heavily edited video.

“A well funded group established for the purpose of damaging Planned Parenthood’s mission and services has promoted a heavily edited, secretly recorded videotape that falsely portrays Planned Parenthood’s participation in tissue donation programs that support lifesaving scientific research,” said spokesman Eric Ferrero in a prepared statement.

Ferrero went on to acknowledge they help patients who want to donate tissue for scientific research and they do so will the full consent from patients “and under the highest ethical and legal standards.”

Planned Parenthood denied they made any money off the sale of aborted baby parts.

“There is no financial benefit for tissue donation for either the patient or for Planned Parenthood,” Ferrero said. “In some instances, actual costs, such as the cost to transport tissue to leading research centers, are reimbursed, which is standard across the medical field.”

David Daledien, lead the undercover project against Planned Parenthood – a nearly three-year-long investigation on illegal trafficking of aborted fetal parts.

“Planned Parenthood’s criminal conspiracy to make money off of aborted baby parts reaches to the very highest levels of their organization,” he said. “Elected officials must listen to the public outcry for Planned Parenthood to be held accountable to the law and for our tax dollars to stop underwriting this barbaric abortion business.”

The Center for Medical Progress offered a swift refutation to Planned Parenthood’s response – by posting the full and unedited video.

They also posted an advertisement from a major purchaser of aborted fetal tissue that was posted in Planned Parenthood clinics. That advertisement mentions words like “financial profitable,” “financial profits,” “financial benefit to your clinic,” and “fiscal growth of your own clinic.”

Planned Parenthood did not return calls seeking comment on those allegations.

Meanwhile, the outrage over the horrific video has spread like wildfire.

Dr. Russell Moore, the president of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, summed it up in one word – speechless.

“If this does not shock the conscience, what will?” Moore wrote online. ‘It is not only that infants, in their mother’s wombs, are deprived of their lives, but also that their corpses are desecrated for profit.”

Think about that for a moment – desecrated unborn babies for profit.

“This is not only murderous; it is murderous in the most ghoulish way imaginable,” Moore added.

Moore is calling on Congress and the Department of Justice to investigate.

“For years, many of us have called on government leaders to see to it that no taxpayer funds, of any kind, go to Planned Parenthood,” Moore wrote. “Is it not clear that these are not health-care providers but pirates and grave-robbers of those who have no graves?”

La. Gov. Bobby Jindal has already called on the state’s Dept. of Health and Hospitals to conduct an investigation of what he called “this alleged evil and illegal activity.”

GOP presidential candidate Carly Fiorina posted a Facebook message calling the video tragic and outrageous.

“This isn’t about ‘choice’,” she wrote. “It’s about profiting on the death of the unborn while telling women it’s about empowerment.”

"Beyond disturbing," is what Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) tweeted.

I do not believe my words can match the eloquence of Dr. Moore’s. We ask God to bless America – a nation that turns a blind eye to the slaughter of unborn children – a nation that provides taxpayers to fund an organization that allegedly sells body parts from dead babies.

God bless America? Perhaps we should be asking for His mercy, instead.

euphemia
07-14-2015, 05:16 PM
I am going to add one more thing. Sometimes the talk turns to "other services" provided by Planned Parenthood, like mammogram. Just so you know, not a single Planned Parenthood is licensed to provide mammograms. Shoot, you can't get them to voluntarily provide an ultrasound just to determine fetal age so the mom can give informed consent.

KCIndy
07-14-2015, 05:22 PM
We ought to give it a day or two for the Iranian Nuke Deal to fall off in the media, then have everyone send it to Drudge. Anything like this appearing on Drudge's web site is bound to get some traction, especially if nothing else is going on at the moment.

Leaning Libertarian
07-14-2015, 08:23 PM
considering Oklahoma Senate Bill 1418 authored in 2012, had its first reading on 2/6/12, with it's title being: "Food; prohibiting the sale or manufacture of food or food products which contain aborted human fetuses," it's actually surprising to me Planned Parenthood hasn't invested in procuring mobile "taco" food trucks. Especially considering this bill was not signed into law.

morfeeis
07-14-2015, 11:39 PM
Planned Parenthood said Tuesday that it does not make money from selling fetal body parts to companies like StemExpress, and any revenues received are related strictly to expenses.

David Daleiden of the Center for Medical Progress said the abortion provider is lying: “Planned Parenthood makes two key admissions in their statement today; first, that aborted fetal parts are harvested at their clinics, and second, that money is exchanged in connection with this.”


He also says Planned Parenthood is lying by insisting it gets “proper consent” from its patients,” and “Planned Parenthood does not make money off the body parts.”


In response, Daleiden produced an online ad from StemExpress, Planned Parenthood’s partner in the body-parts business, that “advertises 4 different times the financial benefit that Planned Parenthood clinics can receive from supplying fetal tissue with the words, ‘Financially profitable,’ ‘Financial Profits,’ ‘financial benefit to your clinic,’ and ‘fiscal growth of your own clinic.'” The ad has the endorsement of Planned Parenthood Medical Director Dr. Dorothy Furgerson.


http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/07/14/planned-parenthoods-client-promised-profit-fiscal-growth-for-harvested-baby-body-parts/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
i don't care how you feel about abortion, these monsters are selling dead babiies, this is some sick shit.

Warrior_of_Freedom
07-15-2015, 12:56 AM
#1 what exactly are they using the body parts for?
#2 are you fucking kidding me? If it came out that China was killing people for body parts there would be a shit-storm and China would be criticized. OH WAIT THAT ALREADY HAPPENS.

Created4
07-15-2015, 08:38 AM
Breitbart.com (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/14/racist-pro-nazi-roots-of-planned-parenthood-revealed/)

Racist, Pro-Nazi Roots of Planned Parenthood Revealed

Led by a mainstream media in full-emotional racial-blackmail mode, we just had a national debate about the Confederate Flag. With the news that Planned Parenthood is trafficking in dead baby parts — news our mainstream media is almost certain to ignore or downplay — the time seems proper to reexamine the racist, pro-Nazi roots of Planned Parenthood, an organization found by vile racist Margaret Sanger, an organization that receives nearly a half-billion dollars a year in taxpayer dollars.

Sanger was the birth control proponent who founded Planned Parenthood nearly 70 years ago. Her motives had nothing to do with liberating women or women’s rights, she was a eugenicist — someone who believed that through abortion, birth control, and forced sterilization society could “assist the [human] race in the elimination of the unfit.”

In a piece titled “Birth Control and Racial Betterment,” Sanger wrote in part:


Before eugenists and others who are laboring for racial betterment can succeed, they must first clear the way for Birth Control. Like the advocates of Birth Control, the eugenists, for instance, are seeking to assist the race toward the elimination of the unfit. Both are seeking a single end but they lay emphasis upon different methods.

Eugenists emphasize the mating of healthy couples for the conscious purpose of producing healthy children, the sterilization of the unfit to prevent their populating the world with their kind and they may, perhaps, agree with us that contraception is a necessary measure among the masses of the workers, where wages do not keep pace with the growth of the family and its necessities in the way of food, clothing, housing, medical attention, education and the like.

We who advocate Birth Control, on the other hand, lay all our emphasis upon stopping not only the reproduction of the unfit but upon stopping all reproduction when there is not economic means of providing proper care for those who are born in health. The eugenist also believes that a woman should bear as many healthy children as possible as a duty to the state. We hold that the world is already over-populated. Eugenists imply or insist that a woman’s first duty is to the state; we contend that her duty to herself is her duty to the state.


Who were the unfit? Sanger laid it all out in 1938, when she praised Nazi Germany’s sterilization policies. The unfit (Hat tip: The Federalist) included those suffering from, “gongenital feeble-mindedness; schizophrenia, circular insanity; heredity epilepsy; hereditary chorea (Huntington’s)’ hereditary blindness or deafness; grave hereditary bodily deformity and chronic alcoholism.”


Reports in medical journals state that the indications laid down in the German law are being carefully observed. These are gongenital feeble-mindedness; schizophrenia, circular insanity; heredity epilepsy; hereditary chorea (Huntington’s)’ hereditary blindness or deafness; grave hereditary bodily deformity and chronic alcoholism.

Surely everyone will agree that the children of parents so afflicted are no contribution to the nation for even if they do not inherit these defects they are children of parents so handicapped that life will give them little, owing to their necessarily bad environment.

There are 1,700 special courts and 27 higher courts in Germany to review the cases certified for sterilization there. The rights of the individual could be equally well safeguarded here, but in no case should the rights of society, or which he or she is a member, be disregarded.

The Confederate Flag is down. The taxpayer-funded Planned Parenthood still stands, primarily in black neighborhoods — just as its racist founder planned so many years ago.

Full Story (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/14/racist-pro-nazi-roots-of-planned-parenthood-revealed/)

AuH20
07-15-2015, 08:48 AM
So I hear the MSM is furiously trying to scrub the story? Look at the AP shamelessly carry the water.

https://twitter.com/AP/status/621152726144126976


Anti-abortion group release video showing Planned Parenthood official discussing disposition of fetal remains:

Disposition of fetal remains? So you're telling that me 'organ farming' wouldn't be the appropriate term?

wizardwatson
07-15-2015, 09:01 AM
I seriously am thinking to buy dead babies. As post #8 points out they might not even be that expensive.

I mean there's apparently a weird legal limbo with "fetal remains" as these good people call them because with a "real" person you can't just chop up the body for spare parts.

So it seems to me if people really wanted to make a statement or bring some light to this issue. Just put effort into buying the dead babies. Clearly the mom's don't want them. Clearly the medical facilities are in it for the money and have no problem creating the supply and selling them.

Wouldn't want to encourage the industry though. I don't know. Still thinking.

Ronin Truth
07-15-2015, 09:12 AM
This thread topic is just screaming for a major mod consolidation, PLEASE.

FunkBuddha
07-15-2015, 09:34 AM
Breitbart.com (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/14/racist-pro-nazi-roots-of-planned-parenthood-revealed/)

Racist, Pro-Nazi Roots of Planned Parenthood Revealed


Full Story (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/14/racist-pro-nazi-roots-of-planned-parenthood-revealed/)

This is the perfect response to this flag hysteria.

RJB
07-15-2015, 09:48 AM
Watching her stuff her face as she talks about babies livers is ate up.

I've had some gruesome conversations over meals from two semesters dissecting cadavers, my time as a firefighter after bad traffic accidents scenes, etc.

But it seems she doesn't even see her patients as people but rather as pods that deliver her the fetuses. Hippocratic Oath be damned.

What gets me is her pictures. She looks like a beautiful woman. Her eyes get to me. Usually such people look totally soulless-- think of pictures of police officers who brutalize people. Something inside most people who do evil dies. She seems to be thriving on evil. Something is really wrong with her.

fisharmor
07-15-2015, 10:18 AM
They are "excess humans". Worthy of apparently nothing but the recycle bin, now. I guess that's better than just the trash can?

There was a joke when I was a kid -

What's worse than ten dead babies in a trash can?
One dead baby in ten trash cans.

I didn't think it was supposed to be taken literally by doctors.

fisharmor
07-15-2015, 10:23 AM
So it seems to me if people really wanted to make a statement or bring some light to this issue. Just put effort into buying the dead babies.

So, are you picturing a lecture including a dead baby in a jar, or are we talking taxidermy?
The Chinese already did the human taxidermy thing and people actually paid to see it, so the jar is probably the more effective option.

puppetmaster
07-15-2015, 10:26 AM
Won't watch because I would be too disgusted.

AuH20
07-15-2015, 10:28 AM
Those Iranians are a bunch of animals with no regard for human life. I'm glad I live here! [/S]

http://www.iranhrdc.org/files.php?file=Unlock_Iran_662831087.jpg

Todd
07-15-2015, 10:52 AM
How about we debunk the arguments popping up defending her that the video is creatively edited? Anybody else heard this?


http://www.realtimesmedia.com/index.php/pittsburgh/47220-planned-parenthood-denies-%E2%80%98selling%E2%80%99-baby-parts-after-incriminating-video-surfaces

donnay
07-15-2015, 10:56 AM
Disgusting pieces of filth. SMDH. :mad:

angelatc
07-15-2015, 11:10 AM
The baby killers are squealing.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/newsroom/press-releases/statement-from-planned-parenthood-on-new-undercover-video

".... a well funded group" - are they being sarcastic? What's their budget again?

angelatc
07-15-2015, 11:11 AM
If patients want to donate tissue, fine. Planned Parenthood should not be brokering deals to sell "donated" tissue. I would like to see all those signed donor releases.

Infants can't sign, silly!

donnay
07-15-2015, 11:19 AM
In the words of Johnny Cash, "Sooner or later God'll cut you down."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTCS6aWRSc

Unknownuser
07-15-2015, 11:38 AM
Signed in just to say this makes me angry.

My baby girl is due in August. She will be glad to know she was not harvested.

puppetmaster
07-15-2015, 11:45 AM
Our government permits this and funds this with money they confiscate from me.if this is not an infringement on your religious beliefs then nothing is.

wizardwatson
07-15-2015, 11:55 AM
I mean if you think about it, the uterus is really the ideal stem cell factory and incubator.

Maybe we can artificially create more than just one fetus. Cut the mother in on the deal. Octo-abortion-mom. Body part surrogates might be the next kick ass bio-stock.

KCIndy
07-15-2015, 11:58 AM
IT'S ON DRUDGE!!!

Washington Post story is linked on Drudge, left side column about halfway down:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/undercover-video-shows-planned-parenthood-exec-discussing-organ-harvesting/2015/07/14/ae330e34-2a4d-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html

wizardwatson
07-15-2015, 12:09 PM
So, are you picturing a lecture including a dead baby in a jar, or are we talking taxidermy?
The Chinese already did the human taxidermy thing and people actually paid to see it, so the jar is probably the more effective option.

I don't know. Maybe a special episode of Fear Factor centered around things you can do with fetal remains?

Put you in a coffin and dump buckets of baby parts on you.
See who can eat the most baby parts.
See who can make the most erotic porn diorama using only dead babies.

Since they never had souls there's no big deal right?

AuH20
07-15-2015, 12:13 PM
I'm waiting for PP to tweet out their baby casserole recipe.

KCIndy
07-15-2015, 12:20 PM
I'm waiting for PP to tweet out their baby casserole recipe.

Eewww... that's A Modest Proposal if I've ever heard one.

William Tell
07-15-2015, 12:24 PM
IT'S ON DRUDGE!!!

Washington Post story is linked on Drudge, left side column about halfway down:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/undercover-video-shows-planned-parenthood-exec-discussing-organ-harvesting/2015/07/14/ae330e34-2a4d-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html

It took Drudge long enough.

jllundqu
07-15-2015, 12:25 PM
At least Saddam wasn't selling the meat afterwards.

Fed them to his lions at one of his palaces.... I know because I cleared the palace in Baghdad where his lions were kept....

morfeeis
07-15-2015, 12:29 PM
IT'S ON DRUDGE!!!

Washington Post story is linked on Drudge, left side column about halfway down:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/undercover-video-shows-planned-parenthood-exec-discussing-organ-harvesting/2015/07/14/ae330e34-2a4d-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html

If they had only added sold for research i would have been happy....

jllundqu
07-15-2015, 12:29 PM
IT'S ON DRUDGE!!!

Washington Post story is linked on Drudge, left side column about halfway down:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/undercover-video-shows-planned-parenthood-exec-discussing-organ-harvesting/2015/07/14/ae330e34-2a4d-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html


An antiabortion group on Tuesday released an undercover video of an official at Planned Parenthood discussing in graphic detail how to abort a fetus to preserve its organs for medical research — as well as the costs associated with sharing that tissue with scientists

Even with this evidence, they just CAN'T bring themselves to say "Selling parts for profit".... they have to dress it up all PC like.... "costs associated with sharing tissue" this is god damn NEWSPEAK

Warrior_of_Freedom
07-15-2015, 01:02 PM
Even with this evidence, they just CAN'T bring themselves to say "Selling parts for profit".... they have to dress it up all PC like.... "costs associated with sharing tissue" this is god damn NEWSPEAK
You have to remember we're dealing with subhumans who view babies as nothing more than parasites. They probably view themselves as parasites as well, parasites of mother earth. These people are dangerous and crazy

morfeeis
07-15-2015, 01:08 PM
Vice of all people is coming to the defense of PP, all some people need is one person to say it ain't so with no real proof and they buy into that crap quickly.

Warrior_of_Freedom
07-15-2015, 01:18 PM
Vice of all people is coming to the defense of PP, all some people need is one person to say it ain't so with no real proof and they buy into that crap quickly.

I knew vice were shit the second they got an interview with Obama. Obama wouldn't let them interview them if they were a legit news source

Brian4Liberty
07-15-2015, 01:29 PM
I mean if you think about it, the uterus is really the ideal stem cell factory and incubator.

Maybe we can artificially create more than just one fetus. Cut the mother in on the deal. Octo-abortion-mom. Body part surrogates might be the next kick ass bio-stock.

Axlotl tanks.

Brian4Liberty
07-15-2015, 02:00 PM
This is all very gruesome, but from watching a bit of the video, these are not considered late term abortions. When they pulled up the form, it looked like 20 weeks is the max. Obviously, 20 weeks is bad enough, but not late term.

If early term abortion is legal, than tissue donation would be pretty standard stuff from a medical perspective. As sad and gruesome as it is, people are asked everyday if they would like a deceased loved ones body used for spare parts. The obvious danger here is an issue of incentives, which applies not only to abortion, but patients of any age. Are things being done out of a concern or desire for utilizing body parts, or out of a profit motive? Are treatment decisions being made based on this? Keep the body alive long enough to harvest the organs? Is killing someone a certain way better for harvesting organs? What about executed criminals?

There are a lot of ramifications from this.

nobody's_hero
07-15-2015, 02:29 PM
I never understood how "planned parenthood" had anything to do with 'planning' or 'parenthood'.

Basically it's an organization for people who didn't plan and fucked up and got pregnant and don't want to be parents.

tod evans
07-15-2015, 02:34 PM
I never understood how "planned parenthood" had anything to do with 'planning' or 'parenthood'.

Basically it's an organization for people who didn't plan and fucked up and got pregnant and don't want to be parents.

"Parents" alludes to fathers being involved......

That place discounts fathers out of hand.......

AuH20
07-15-2015, 02:59 PM
I never understood how "planned parenthood" had anything to do with 'planning' or 'parenthood'.

Basically it's an organization for people who didn't plan and fucked up and got pregnant and don't want to be parents.

But it's not your job to think, citizen. Please be considerate of others.

Warrior_of_Freedom
07-15-2015, 03:30 PM
I never understood how "planned parenthood" had anything to do with 'planning' or 'parenthood'.

Basically it's an organization for people who didn't plan and fucked up and got pregnant and don't want to be parents.

Oh mi gash you're such a racist why are you blaming me for my own mistakes? Stop oppressing me gasssh

angelatc
07-16-2015, 10:48 AM
I'm waiting for PP to tweet out their baby casserole recipe.

Never before in my life have I wished I had the mad skills to hack a Twitter account. But now I do.


On a side note, i have been waiting to see if the media picks up the dead baby story. But they didn't. No surprise.

But what's all over my news feed today? Celebrities opining over the farming practices of some of Costco's chicken vendors. Because *that's* inhumane.

Anti Federalist
07-16-2015, 01:02 PM
Christ, I was just kidding when I said "fetal grindings" are keeping Kissenger and Cheney alive.

puppetmaster
07-16-2015, 01:06 PM
Not much press still.

Free Radical
07-16-2015, 04:31 PM
But what's all over my news feed today? Celebrities opining over the farming practices of some of Costco's chicken vendors. Because *that's* inhumane.

This is obviously more important

Caitlyn Jenner was a goddess at ESPYs, but others made fashion statements too
http://www.latimes.com/fashion/alltherage/la-ar-espy-awards-fashion-20150715-story.html

Working Poor
07-16-2015, 05:34 PM
The people who are for legal abortion are saying the video has been edited and taken out of context and, what else would one expect to do with a clump of cells.

I wish I could shame them to their core and accuse them of being cannibals. If I can come up with the right words I know I will confront them but I know I will bring on a bunch of personal attacks. I really don't think anyone can stop abortion it has been going on since the beginning of time. It will either be legal or done in back alleys and that is the reality.

I feel very disturbed that the organs are being used for experimentation but I think I always knew this would happen. I don't like it at all and I am very disappointed in health care professionals but I am sure my opinion means nothing to the people doing it and it labels the ones against it nut jobs and against freedom of choice. How someone can call killing their child a right just seems so insane.


I am against organ transplantation I think it is a form of cannibalism.

Warrior_of_Freedom
07-16-2015, 05:39 PM
The people who are for legal abortion are saying the video has been edited and taken out of context and, what else would one expect to do with a clump of cells.

I wish I could shame them to their core and accuse them of being cannibals. If I can come up with the right words I know I will confront them but I know I will bring on a bunch of personal attacks. I really don't think anyone can stop abortion it has been going on since the beginning of time. It will either be legal or done in back alleys and that is the reality.

I feel very disturbed that the organs are being used for experimentation but I think I always knew this would happen. I don't like it at all and I am very disappointed in health care professionals but I am sure my opinion means nothing to the people doing it and it lables the ones against nut jobs and against freedom.

I am against organ transplantation I think it is a form of cannibalism.

I'm sure after the 100th abortion these people have empathy in the negatives. How can you value human life when your entire career is to destroy it? First it starts with, oh it's just a clump of cells, then it's oh it's just a tiny fetus, then oh it's just a few organs for the good of science. Soon it's prisoners and people who fail to be reeducated get harvested for organs... and prison food.