New York City’s ‘Styrofoam’ ban goes into effect

[Suzanimal]

Maybe yesterday you were drinking coffee from a white foam cup. Well, today that cup is a controlled substance in New York City, a piece of contraband with steeper fines attached to it than those for marijuana offenses.

The city probably won’t break down any doors in search of the white squeaky stuff, but as of July 1 New York is the largest city in America to prohibit the sale, possession and distribution of single-use polystyrene foam.

Businesses will have a six month grace period before being fined, but consumers should say their final goodbyes to foam cups, plates, clamshells, coolers, hard plastic-like utensils and packing peanuts.

The material is commonly known as ‘styrofoam,’ including in the title of the city’s release on the ban. But as Dow Chemical is at pains to point out these days, STYROFOAM® is in fact a brand name insulation product they’ve been making for 60 years.

In any case, officials say the type of plastic resin in foam can’t be recycled. They say it blows around the city, fouls the harbor and can end up in the food chain. They say it ends up circling for decades in one of the ocean’s great patches of floating garbage.

“These products cause real environmental harm and have no place in New York City,” Mayor Bill de Blasio said in a release about the ban.

Dozens of other cities, including Washington, D.C., Minneapolis and San Francisco, have already banned the stuff. But New York’s ban is the biggest blow yet to the industry. Last year, the city collected nearly 30,000 tons of single-use foam. That’s more than six pounds of foam per resident. City schools alone were throwing away 800,000 foam lunch trays a day.

Now, there is a logo at the bottom of almost every foam container, signaling that you can recycle it. The city’s ban is based on the conclusion that foam is not recyclable, however – a conclusion that Dart Container Corp sharply disputes.

Dart makes a lot of foam products and calls the ban “capricious,” “irrational” and “arbitrary.” It says that the city’s review of the market for recycled foam was a “farce,” and that de Blasio is pandering to the city’s ultra-liberal green fringe.

Recently, Dart joined restaurant owners and recyclers in an effort to overturn the ban. They argue that the ban is illegal and a terrible burden on the city’s already strapped food sellers, who must now pay more for compostable paper containers.

“Here’s the truth that the city won’t admit: foam is 100% recyclable,” a spokesperson for Dart’s legal alliance told msnbc in a statement. “We will continue to fight the ban, help the City’s small businesses, and work to improve the environment.”

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http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/new-york-citys-styrofoam-ban-goes-effect?cid=sm_fb_msnbc

[Christian Liberty]

LOL! So styrofoam is a threat to society but gay marriage isn't. Shaking my head. Psalm 2, Deuteronomy 4, Deuteronomy 17, and so on.

[Voluntarist]

xxxxx

[rg17]

Isn't socialism beautiful? :rolleyes:

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

paper and plastic cups stink, always burn my hand

[Ronin Truth]

C'mon NYC, is styrofoam really anywhere in your top 10 list of NYC substance abuse problems/issues? :p :rolleyes:

[presence]

Bans are stupid, but the very concept of food in styrofoam containers is disgusting... I don't eat or drink anything exposed to it.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/11/tritan-bpa-free-plastic-styrofoam-estrogen

Its no wonder there are epidemics of ***** and cancer.

[Chomp]

Another mad house. Bloomberg is out, but his agenda stays.

[RPES1]

LOL! So styrofoam is a threat to society but gay marriage isn't. Shaking my head. Psalm 2, Deuteronomy 4, Deuteronomy 17, and so on.



Are you fucking serious? Gay marriage is a threat to society? WOW! If you're worried about what another man does with his dick, or a women does with her parts then you're the one that's a threat to society.

Billions of insects have gay sex and a lot of different species of animals have gay sex INCLUDING humans. Now, I'm not gay myself nor do I want to see it, but I'm not gonna worry about what another guy or girl does and if they want to marry and be public about it more power to them.

[parocks]

Are you fucking serious? Gay marriage is a threat to society? WOW! If you're worried about what another man does with his dick, or a women does with her parts then you're the one that's a threat to society.

Billions of insects have gay sex and a lot of different species of animals have gay sex INCLUDING humans. Now, I'm not gay myself nor do I want to see it, but I'm not gonna worry about what another guy or girl does and if they want to marry and be public about it more power to them.

Yes, it's normal, because bugs do it. It's amazing how quickly discussion turns to bugs. Big shortage of good arguments? Include bugs in your arguments.

[amy31416]

LOL! So styrofoam is a threat to society but gay marriage isn't. Shaking my head. Psalm 2, Deuteronomy 4, Deuteronomy 17, and so on.

Yeah, all us women would just love to marry the gay men you'd cram into the closet. Lots of issues in the gay community, but they need to work it out, not you.

[amy31416]

Yes, it's normal, because bugs do it. It's amazing how quickly discussion turns to bugs. Big shortage of good arguments? Include bugs in your arguments.

I think you missed where he said that lots of different species have the gay. Mammals, insects, avians, etc.

[Chomp]

NYC is a fascist corn hall.:mad:

[DevilsAdvocate]

Why can't we recycle styrofoam? This is an engineering problem, not a policy problem. In my opinion, most problems in the world can be fixed with engineering, creativity, and ingenuity.

[tod evans]

Why can't we recycle styrofoam? This is an engineering problem, not a policy problem. In my opinion, most problems in the world can be fixed with engineering, creativity, and ingenuity.

Styrofoam and gasoline could prove useful in NYC......:cool:

[parocks]

I think you missed where he said that lots of different species have the gay. Mammals, insects, avians, etc.

Bugs were mentioned.

If your argument includes "it's normal for bugs" in any way, you've got a problem.

[dannno]

Bugs were mentioned.

If your argument includes "it's normal for bugs" in any way, you've got a problem.

I think the purpose of the argument is for those Christians who say it is "unnatural" and that it goes against God, people are meant to be straight, etc..

[amy31416]

Bugs were mentioned.

If your argument includes "it's normal for bugs" in any way, you've got a problem.
Where did I say that?

How is it your business what people or animals do?

[Danke]

Are you fucking serious? Gay marriage is a threat to society? WOW! If you're worried about what another man does with his dick, or a women does with her parts then you're the one that's a threat to society.

Billions of insects have gay sex and a lot of different species of animals have gay sex INCLUDING humans. Now, I'm not gay myself nor do I want to see it, but I'm not gonna worry about what another guy or girl does and if they want to marry and be public about it more power to them.

http://www.narth.org/docs/animalmyth.html

[idiom]

Lol @ Americans. I haven't seen any food packaging made of Styrofoam in like 2 decades.

Everyone would boycott your store if you sold that shit here. Like 100% of people would go find somewhere else to eat.

[idiom]

Why can't we recycle styrofoam? This is an engineering problem, not a policy problem. In my opinion, most problems in the world can be fixed with engineering, creativity, and ingenuity.

It was fixed. Its called cardboard. Amazing stuff. It doesn't take government intervention, just consumers who give a shit.

[Danke]

Lol @ Americans. I haven't seen any food packaging made of Styrofoam in like 2 decades.

Everyone would boycott your store if you sold that shit here. Like 100% of people would go find somewhere else to eat.

Never ordered a product from China, etc? Or is that also illegal in utopia land?

[The Free Hornet]

Lol @ Americans. I haven't seen any food packaging made of Styrofoam in like 2 decades.

Everyone would boycott your store if you sold that shit here. Like 100% of people would go find somewhere else to eat.

Styrofoam cups 8 oz at $14.58/1000 also known as $0.015/cup or 1.5¢/cup.
www.samsclub.com/sams/wincup-foam-cups-8-oz-1000-ct/prod1500597.ip?sprodId=prod1500597&selectedTab=allProducts&_requestid=198869 (http://www.samsclub.com/sams/wincup-foam-cups-8-oz-1000-ct/prod1500597.ip?sprodId=prod1500597&selectedTab=allProducts&_requestid=198869)
[you may have to select a store local first to see prices]

+reps to whomever can find cheaper 8oz cups
-rep to idiom if he fails in this task

Delivery not required.

[nobody's_hero]

Possible solution: You must cup your hands and make a bowl to contain liquids, no cup necessary. The all-natural, eco-friendly beverage container.

New problem: You go to the cashier to pay for your hot coffee, reach for your wallet, and oops.

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New York: We got your gun magazines with the SAFE act. Now let's see you try to defend yourself without Styrofoam.

[asurfaholic]

Sounds to me that nyc has a hard time managing their trash. Solution? Kill some jobs.

Great.

[tod evans]

Sounds to me that nyc has a hard time managing their trash. Solution? Kill some jobs.

Great.

Far better to kill politicians........:cool:

[Suzanimal]

New York City’s Styrofoam Ban Is Over


Good news for takeout fans and New Yorkers who like to drink their beer out of big, cheap Styrofoam cups: You will still be able to do exactly that. Even though the city had been moving forward with its ban on polystyrene foam containers (the actual name of the material everyone things of as "Styrofoam"), Manhattan Supreme Court justice Margaret Chan has now overturned the measure, saying that the Department of Sanitation commissioner's move to eliminate the containers doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Chan writes in a decision that there's plenty of evidence suggesting the foam can, in fact, be recycled and that doing so could also potentially save the city $400,000 annually.

In April, the Restaurant Action Alliance and Dart Container Corporation (which manufactures the foam vessels) filed a lawsuit contesting the ban, claiming similar findings.

A rep for City Hall, meanwhile, says that they will fight this most recent development, telling NY1, "We are reviewing our options to keep the ban in effect." Even though the ban officially went into effect on July 1, penalties for noncompliance were delayed until January 1, meaning businesses were still able to use the containers. And for the time being, it seems they'll be able to continue doing so without fear of interference from the city.

http://www.grubstreet.com/2015/09/new-york-judge-overturns-polystyrene-foam-ban.html?mid=facebook_nymag