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johnwk
06-29-2015, 05:55 AM
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Enough has not been said or written about the same sex marriage case until the people pressure the House of Representatives into drawing up articles of impeachment against Roberts for his judicial tyranny in the Obamacare case, and against Kennedy for his judicial tyranny in the same sex marriage case. In each of these cases, neither the text of the Constitution or the legislative intent of our Constitution supports their written opinions. What they both did was use their office of public trust to impose their personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness upon the entire population of the United States. And that amounts to judicial tyranny!

Keep in mind the following quote: "The whole aim of construction, as applied to a provision of the Constitution, is to discover the meaning, to ascertain and give effect to the intent of its framers and the people who adopted it." HOME BLDG. & LOAN ASS'N v. BLAISDELL, 290 U.S. 398 (1934)

The American People need to organize a million citizens demonstration in front of our Supreme Court and demand these two tyrants be impeached. If the people do not rise up and show their outrage and demand the impeachment of these two, we will have ”Submit[ted] to despotism . . . and . . . concede[d] the principle" as stated by John Adams.

We have been amply warned about submitting to attacks upon our Constitution:

”Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, “Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud.” It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism - the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted, is the beginning of the end of the nation’s ruin.” ___ THE OLD GUARD, A MONTHLY JOURNAL DEVOTED TO THE PRINCIPLES OF 1776 AND 1787.

Now, the only question is, will the American People organize a million citizens demonstration against these two? And while we are at it, against three others on our Supreme Court who defy both the text and legislative intent of our Constitution?

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

acptulsa
06-29-2015, 07:16 AM
Sounds good to me. But where are we going to get the million citizens?


"It's awful hard to get people interested in corruption unless they can get some of it."--Will Rogers 1928

Aratus
06-29-2015, 08:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaJr8tNceKs About 50 minutes into this video, you get a nuanced take on a famous impeachment trial.

ZENemy
06-29-2015, 08:44 AM
Viable solutions are impossible from within the system, because the system is the problem.

specsaregood
06-29-2015, 08:45 AM
So the point is to impeach 2 SCs and let them be replaced by 2 more Obama nominees?

tod evans
06-29-2015, 08:50 AM
Viable solutions are impossible from within the system, because the system is the problem.

Kind of like asking the police to police the police eh?

Government is doing exactly what it was intended to, grow.........

ZENemy
06-29-2015, 09:59 AM
Kind of like asking the police to police the police eh?

Government is doing exactly what it was intended to, grow.........

Correct sir!

No offense to you Johnwk, I always like your post. I just don't think the jailers will allow the prisoners to overthrow them with words on paper or public pressure. Look at how INSANE the anti war movement was during the Vietnam war, did it stop even one person from dying?

jllundqu
06-29-2015, 10:24 AM
In what universe are the moronic idiots of Murica prepared for such a task?

50% of people in this country couldn't spell impeachment much less get behind an initiative to remove life-appointed (pseudo) justices form the bench.

Sorry... I'm far too cynical to entertain such fantasies.

Southron
06-29-2015, 10:51 AM
No need to impeach them. The Congress can strip jurisdiction.

ZENemy
06-29-2015, 10:57 AM
No need to impeach them. The Congress can strip jurisdiction.

Neither will happen.

So, what do we do now?

Southron
06-29-2015, 10:58 AM
Neither will happen.

So, what do we do now?

Push secession.

CPUd
06-29-2015, 11:27 AM
Neither will happen.

So, what do we do now?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?477389-the-next-president-will-appoint-at-least-4-members-of-SC

tod evans
06-29-2015, 11:32 AM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?477389-the-next-president-will-appoint-at-least-4-members-of-SC

Oh!, Oh!

Can we protest and write strongly worded letters of disapproval too?

If I vote twice can we win this time?

ZENemy
06-29-2015, 11:39 AM
Push secession.

Prisoners: "Dear Warden, please allow me and cell block B to leave and become our own, free entity"

Warden: "Get back to work slaves, we just let gays get married, that's all the freedom you're getting this century"

P3ter_Griffin
06-29-2015, 12:16 PM
Push secession.

Which is less authoritarian:

'You all must be involved'

or

'None of you can choose to be involved'?

We can attract non-authoritarians in all parties to our message if we don't make is so they must conform to our rules.

Southron
06-29-2015, 12:40 PM
Prisoners: "Dear Warden, please allow me and cell block B to leave and become our own, free entity"

Warden: "Get back to work slaves, we just let gays get married, that's all the freedom you're getting this century"
You sound defeated. If so, I would just go back to ignoring politics altogether. Otherwise, you need some sort of goal to push towards with realistic expectations.

ZENemy
06-29-2015, 12:51 PM
You sound defeated. If so, I would just go back to ignoring politics altogether. Otherwise, you need some sort of goal to push towards with realistic expectations.

Yawn.

Mr.NoSmile
06-29-2015, 01:04 PM
Talk is cheap. It won't happen either way.

johnwk
06-29-2015, 06:01 PM
So the point is to impeach 2 SCs and let them be replaced by 2 more Obama nominees?

Only if the Senate approves them.

JWK

johnwk
06-29-2015, 06:03 PM
Neither will happen.



Only if the people are apathetic!


JWK

Aratus
06-29-2015, 06:14 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?477389-the-next-president-will-appoint-at-least-4-members-of-SC

this quiet lil thread examines how many hypothetical
Supreme Court vacancies could arise in four years time.

jkob
06-29-2015, 06:16 PM
Is this all because of the gay marriage ruling? The best course of action there is none, we're going to be looked at as insane for even suggesting impeaching and stripping the authority of Supreme Court justices on an issue that the American people are decidedly are against. Do you want to movement to be irrelevant? Priorities!

Aratus
06-29-2015, 06:24 PM
Even though i think Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are more honest than Hillary Clinton, and even sometimes three degrees to her left, if any
of them wins in 2o16 its like handing BHO a third term because nearly the same group of people would be returning to Washington after the election.
We need to get a Republican in to change the composition of the court, more to the point, if we can get Rand Paul elected, we will have a much more
Libertarian court as he faces re-election. On top of this, if we can impeach one of the younger justices, we can really shake up the court & then some!

Ronin Truth
06-30-2015, 03:17 AM
And if the SCOTUS rules the impeachment effort to be unCONstitutional, then what?

osan
06-30-2015, 05:23 AM
Why just Roberts and Kennedy? What of the rest? Why not them?

Southron
06-30-2015, 05:38 AM
And if the SCOTUS rules the impeachment effort to be unCONstitutional, then what?

Turn off the lights in the Supreme Court building?

Ronin Truth
06-30-2015, 07:22 AM
Turn off the lights in the Supreme Court building?

Why wouldn't ruling in the dark or during the daylight hours be viable options?

euphemia
06-30-2015, 07:50 AM
Yesterday I was reminded that Kennedy is a Supreme Court judge because Robert Bork was not confirmed by the Senate.

Can you imagine the trio of Sclaia, Thomas, and Bork? That would have been one formidable wall of justice and logic.

Jan2017
07-11-2015, 11:03 AM
Enough good ideas here for a SNL skit at least . . .


Yesterday I was reminded that Kennedy is a Supreme Court judge because Robert Bork was not confirmed by the Senate.

Can you imagine the trio of Sclaia, Thomas, and Bork? That would have been one formidable wall of justice and logic.

Wow, yeah.
Bork - even if you may personally disagree in how he went on a case - would have been a constitutional genius . . .
he would have wrote dissenting opinions that would change peoples minds probably, lol.

thoughtomator
07-11-2015, 11:27 AM
An effective solution would be to find out what they are being blackmailed with and expose it publicly to end the blackmail.

FloralScent
07-11-2015, 11:58 AM
Prisoners: "Dear Warden, please allow me and cell block B to leave and become our own, free entity"

Warden: "Get back to work slaves, we just let gays get married, that's all the freedom you're getting this century"

He never said it would be a bloodless process.

euphemia
07-11-2015, 12:33 PM
Why just Roberts and Kennedy? Why not the others who consistently decide against the Constitution?

timosman
07-11-2015, 12:54 PM
An effective solution would be to find out what they are being blackmailed with and expose it publicly to end the blackmail.

It was sufficient to blackmail one judge to affect the vote on this case. Wonder who would that be ? :confused:

anaconda
07-14-2015, 03:29 AM
"Impeachment is a constitutional tool. Let’s use it against Kennedy and Roberts"

I'm sure Congress will jump right on it.

osan
07-14-2015, 05:32 AM
So the point is to impeach 2 SCs and let them be replaced by 2 more Obama nominees?

Sure. At least their treachery will have been answered with something unpleasant. To do nothing is tantamount to consent.

I do not consent.

Christopher A. Brown
07-16-2015, 09:53 AM
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What they both did was use their office of public trust to impose their personal views of justice, fairness and reasonableness upon the entire population of the United States. And that amounts to judicial tyranny!

Which is only possible because the people are disabled from agreeing upon prime constitutional intent.

Such a disability is going to cause a lot worse problems than what is described in your OP.

Because the second most prime intent, that which empowers the action that protects all rights by enabling unity, the PURPOSE of free speech cannot manifest. The greatest threats cannot even be understood or effectively shared to any significant extent.

Christopher A. Brown
07-16-2015, 10:06 AM
Viable solutions are impossible from within the system, because the system is the problem.

Actually the part of the system that can provide solution is out of the reach of the people because the PURPOSE of free speech is so far abridged.

The first amendment is deficient because it does not describe the PURPOSE of free speech although the Declaration of Independence fully implies such a purpose has to exist in order for the intent to alter or abolish to manifest.

That Article V exists shows that the intent to alter or abolish was taken into law but taken from the people and given to the states.

For example:

Public access television therefore should have been statewide, but corporations controlling the cable systems kept it all regional reducing its effectiveness completely.

Now the people are the problem because they are so ignorant and miseducated they think they know the problem, but if they actually did, they could NEVER share it effectively. Vain conceit and arrogance instilled by corrupt educational entities dedicated to disabling people from making effective agreement to know and use the system.