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AuH20
06-09-2015, 01:09 PM
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-chicago-20150601-story.html


Hunter's current pay of $9.25 an hour leaves little left for the single father and his daughter, Serenity. When Hunter, 53, couldn't afford her junior prom outfit, he sewed a black-lace dress for her, even as they fought along the way about the hemline. "She picked the material," he said. "I got to pick the length."

At $15 an hour, his annual income would become too high to qualify for CountyCare under the current income limit.

So any salary gains could be wiped out by the price of his medications and supplies, including two kinds of insulin at $403 a month and drugs to control high cholesterol and blood pressure that add an extra $330 a month.

And that's not including the syringes, health checkups and eyeglasses he receives for free, allowing him to avoid choosing between maintaining his health and providing for his teenager.

At $15, he figures he'd need to reduce his total work hours to ensure his new income didn't disqualify him from his current benefits.

"That's going to be a problem," Hunter acknowledged. "A raise will kick me out of CountyCare. Then the medicines are going to cost so much I won't be able to afford my apartment."

phill4paul
06-09-2015, 01:12 PM
Well, then, the obvious solution is to raise the minimum wage to $25/hr. Either that or raise the limit for CountyCare.

juleswin
06-09-2015, 01:14 PM
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-chicago-20150601-story.html

Considering that most McDonald cooks are not diabetics or dependent on some form of welfare, the ones that still have their job after the wage increase will see a benefit. This is one of the worst reason to be against the minimum wage, by the same reasoning, that man would be better off not making whatever it is that would disqualify him from welfare.

AuH20
06-09-2015, 01:16 PM
Considering that most McDonald cooks are not diabetics or dependent on some form of welfare, the ones that still have their job after the wage increase will see a benefit. This is one of the worst reason to be against the minimum wage, by the same reasoning, that man would be better off not making whatever it is that would disqualify him from welfare.

Centralized planning fails. I think that's the lesson here.

parocks
06-09-2015, 01:19 PM
Well, then, the obvious solution is to raise the minimum wage to $25/hr. Either that or raise the limit for CountyCare.

I think the solution of reducing work hours would get the job done.

dannno
06-09-2015, 01:25 PM
Stop eating so many god damn carbs!!!

Done. No more $700+/mo prescription costs + doctor visits and other medical costs.

parocks
06-09-2015, 01:29 PM
Considering that most McDonald cooks are not diabetics or dependent on some form of welfare, the ones that still have their job after the wage increase will see a benefit. This is one of the worst reason to be against the minimum wage, by the same reasoning, that man would be better off not making whatever it is that would disqualify him from welfare.

With the fact that the government takes about half our money (isn't there some sort of calendar day coming up where we aren't working for the government for the rest of the year) - people have to understand that these labor laws are absolutely necessary.

Demand is in Washington DC. They take our money and have an unlimited supply of high paying jobs. But not in the towns all over the country where the people are having their money taken from them. The invisible hand does not work when DC cuts 2 fingers off and sows them onto the Fed Gov hand to buy bombs with.

This guy can make the same money, and work fewer hours. That's a benefit to him. More free time.

jj-
06-09-2015, 01:34 PM
Stop eating so many god damn carbs!!!

You're wrong on this. It might have benefited you, but it's not universal and it's not the only way to improve health. You're basically filling lots of threads with crap. There is much better documentation that excess iron (mainly in males) and excess polyunsaturated fats are the main factors in the decline in health today. But even then I don't start spamming threads with this information. You're doing the worst possible thing, you're spamming with wrong info. One day you might see that as a convert you were a fanatic. Try to have some perspective and see it now. At least stop making a fool of yourself spamming unrelated threads.

Cleaner44
06-09-2015, 01:36 PM
Obvious answer is obvious...

America needs The Affordable Medications Act™ so that no patient is left behind. This is why America need Jeb Bush!

Sam I am
06-09-2015, 01:38 PM
TRWTF is that the system is set up such that it's worse to make $15/hr than it is to make $10/hr


Another point is that he would probably be better served if he ate more fruits and vegetables and less saturated fat enough that he could reduce his medications

RabbitMan
06-09-2015, 01:57 PM
Pretty sure the Adfordable Care Act would have him covered. I make the equivalent of $12 an hour and decent healthcare(for my age) costs me $150 a month, plus $10 for doctor visits after the first 3 annual ones are free, and $10 for generic medication.

Not saying he is wrong, but if he was surviving on $9 an hour, him making $11 an hour (keep in mind that all of these minimum wage laws are phased in over half-a-decade) shouldnt kill him.

phill4paul
06-09-2015, 02:07 PM
Speaking of McD's....


Obama Spokesman Who Promised to Confront Corporate Interests Is Now McDonald’s Spokesman

McDonald's Corporation (NYSE: MCD) today announced the appointment of Robert Gibbs as Executive Vice President, Global Chief Communications Officer. In his new role, Gibbs will lead McDonald's corporate relations group, which manages internal and external communications and government and public affairs. He will lead McDonald's in communicating clear, coordinated messages to internal and external constituencies, enhancing the brand and supporting corporate strategies.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/09/robert_gibbs_mcdonald_s_spokesman_ex_obama_press_s ecretary_is_lovin_it_if.html

dannno
06-09-2015, 03:02 PM
You're wrong on this. It might have benefited you, but it's not universal and it's not the only way to improve health. You're basically filling lots of threads with crap. There is much better documentation that excess iron (mainly in males) and excess polyunsaturated fats are the main factors in the decline in health today. But even then I don't start spamming threads with this information. You're doing the worst possible thing, you're spamming with wrong info. One day you might see that as a convert you were a fanatic. Try to have some perspective and see it now. At least stop making a fool of yourself spamming unrelated threads.

No, you're wrong, diabetes is caused by eating too many grains and carbs. Same with heart disease. You may have found a loophole with your fruit and dairy, but I've also seen people on mostly fruit diets gain weight. Also seen some VERY skinny fruictrarians, but they were really into yoga and shit.

For the record, I agree with about half the stuff you post related to diet, but the other half is sometimes completely off the chart.

dannno
06-09-2015, 03:05 PM
TRWTF is that the system is set up such that it's worse to make $15/hr than it is to make $10/hr


Another point is that he would probably be better served if he ate more fruits and vegetables and less saturated fat enough that he could reduce his medications

Saturated fat is good for you - he needs vegetables, a little fruit and good fats via pastured/grass fed meats, grass fed butter and coconut oil. No grains, very low carb. One year he would be off his meds and in a healthy weight range.

Occam's Banana
06-09-2015, 03:50 PM
Well, then, the obvious solution is to raise the minimum wage to $25/hr. Either that or raise the limit for CountyCare.

"Either ... or ..." ... ?!?!

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/131/319047856_dbf1ef3e92_m_d.jpg

Why not BOTH?

Why do you hate poor people, Phill?

:p;)

phill4paul
06-09-2015, 03:52 PM
"Either ... or ..." ... ?!?!

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/131/319047856_dbf1ef3e92_m_d.jpg

Why not BOTH?

Why do you hate poor people, Phill?

:p;)

Because they get more free stuff than I do. It's like going to someone else's birthday party.

juleswin
06-09-2015, 04:14 PM
No, you're wrong, diabetes is caused by eating too many grains and carbs. Same with heart disease. You may have found a loophole with your fruit and dairy, but I've also seen people on mostly fruit diets gain weight. Also seen some VERY skinny fruictrarians, but they were really into yoga and shit.

For the record, I agree with about half the stuff you post related to diet, but the other half is sometimes completely off the chart.

Maybe he has type I diabetes? You know the one that is not alleviated by diet and exercise

heavenlyboy34
06-09-2015, 04:21 PM
Stop eating so many god damn carbs!!!

Done. No more $700+/mo prescription costs + doctor visits and other medical costs.

People I know of who have reversed their type II diabetes took quite a long time to do it. It's a great idea long term, but not something the fella in the OP can achieve overnight-and apparently he needs the FRNs ASAP.

heavenlyboy34
06-09-2015, 04:22 PM
Maybe he has type I diabetes? You know the one that is not alleviated by diet and exercise
This too^^ Article doesn't specify, but last time I heard a lecture about this, type II is way more common. /shrugs

heavenlyboy34
06-09-2015, 04:24 PM
Speaking of McD's....



http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/09/robert_gibbs_mcdonald_s_spokesman_ex_obama_press_s ecretary_is_lovin_it_if.html

What could possibly go wrong? :confused::toady:

Anti Federalist
06-09-2015, 05:37 PM
"Either ... or ..." ... ?!?!

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/131/319047856_dbf1ef3e92_m_d.jpg

Why not BOTH?

Why do you hate poor people, Phill?

:p;)

Pikers.

Cheapskates.

Raise it to $100 an hour.

Anti Federalist
06-09-2015, 05:41 PM
With the fact that the government takes about half our money (isn't there some sort of calendar day coming up where we aren't working for the government for the rest of the year) - people have to understand that these labor laws are absolutely necessary.

Yes.

This year it was 24 April.

Meaning that every single dollar earned, by anybody, anywhere in the US, was taken by government until that day.



This year, Tax Freedom Day falls on April 24, or 114 days into the year.

Americans will pay $3.3 trillion in federal taxes and $1.5 trillion in state and local taxes, for a total bill of more than $4.8 trillion, or 31 percent of the nation’s income.

Tax Freedom Day is one day later than last year due mainly to the country’s continued steady economic growth, which is expected to boost tax revenue especially from the corporate, payroll, and individual income tax.

Americans will collectively spend more on taxes in 2015 than they will on food, clothing, and housing combined.

If you include annual federal borrowing, which represents future taxes owed, Tax Freedom Day would occur 14 days later on May 8.

Tax Freedom Day is a significant date for taxpayers and lawmakers because it represents how long Americans as a whole have to work in order to pay the nation’s tax burden.

http://taxfoundation.org/article/tax-freedom-day-2015-april-24th

dannno
06-09-2015, 05:48 PM
Maybe he has type I diabetes? You know the one that is not alleviated by diet and exercise

Not completely true.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/type-1-diabetes-paleo-primal/#axzz3cbzcgIU5

http://thepaleodiet.com/success-story-the-paleo-diet-and-type-1-diabetes/

http://robbwolf.com/2011/10/17/type-1-diabetes-the-numbers-dont-lie/

dannno
06-09-2015, 05:50 PM
People I know of who have reversed their type II diabetes took quite a long time to do it. It's a great idea long term, but not something the fella in the OP can achieve overnight-and apparently he needs the FRNs ASAP.

Ya I didn't mean it would happen overnight - Also hard to do the diet on a shoestring budget, admittedly.. but... he could still cut the carbs and do much better for himself. Also hard to blame people when it's not information that is given out by our government or public schools (beyond the fact that they actually believe what their government tells them)

parocks
06-09-2015, 07:19 PM
Saturated fat is good for you - he needs vegetables, a little fruit and good fats via pastured/grass fed meats, grass fed butter and coconut oil. No grains, very low carb. One year he would be off his meds and in a healthy weight range.

I'm with dannno here. There are a lot of people these days it seems who have gotten a batch of current health info. Dannno seems to be one. I'll second the coconut oil. Medium chain triglycerides. There are also quite a few really good foods / spices which have health benefits. Some of those effect blood sugar. Here's pubmed on Cinnamon. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14633804 Cinnamon improves glucose and lipids of people with type 2 diabetes.

parocks
06-09-2015, 07:22 PM
Yes.

This year it was 24 April.

Meaning that every single dollar earned, by anybody, anywhere in the US, was taken by government until that day.



http://taxfoundation.org/article/tax-freedom-day-2015-april-24th

I thought it was later. Government only takes a third, a little bit less than a third?

pcosmar
06-09-2015, 07:32 PM
Obvious answer is obvious...

America needs The Affordable Medications Act™ so that no patient is left behind. This is why America need Jeb Bush!

not really as funny as it sounds

juleswin
06-09-2015, 08:17 PM
Not completely true.

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/type-1-diabetes-paleo-primal/#axzz3cbzcgIU5

http://thepaleodiet.com/success-story-the-paleo-diet-and-type-1-diabetes/

http://robbwolf.com/2011/10/17/type-1-diabetes-the-numbers-dont-lie/

That wouldn't reduce their testing, or eliminate insulin dependence. and whatever savings gained would likely be lost adopting to the more expensive paleo diet.

euphemia
06-09-2015, 08:23 PM
I just finished an 11 hour day on my feet. By the time taxes and insurance are paid, I will bring home about $8.00 an hour. Government is always the problem. Always. As long as they claim their tons of flesh, there is no minimum wage that will be high enough to get even a tiny bit ahead.

invisible
06-09-2015, 09:33 PM
Considering that most McDonald cooks are not diabetics or dependent on some form of welfare, the ones that still have their job after the wage increase will see a benefit. This is one of the worst reason to be against the minimum wage, by the same reasoning, that man would be better off not making whatever it is that would disqualify him from welfare.

That benefit will only be temporary. Businesses will raise prices to cover the increased labor costs. Rents will rise. And before too long, that employee who "sees a benefit" will only be worse off than before. Even employees who work for just above the minimum wage will be affected, as the raise they should have gotten ends up going to someone undeserving so that they meet the new minimum wage.

Warrior_of_Freedom
06-09-2015, 09:38 PM
Stop eating so many god damn carbs!!!

Done. No more $700+/mo prescription costs + doctor visits and other medical costs.

I'm pretty sure black people have a much higher rate of diabetes than white people and other people with lighter skin because their skin doesn't absorb as much vitamin d, and vitamin d deficiency is linked to diabetes.

dannno
06-09-2015, 09:50 PM
That wouldn't reduce their testing, or eliminate insulin dependence. and whatever savings gained would likely be lost adopting to the more expensive paleo diet.


Even if they have to continue their insulin treatment to some extent and get checked up on occasion, there are a lot of adverse medical reactions, some people lose legs. Anything that can vastly improve their condition is going to be very helpful to their longterm health and may avoid some serious medical bills and permanent disabling injuries.



What happened next is amazing! My daughter’s insulin needs PLUMMETED. Over the next week we made numerous calls to the Endocrinologist to adjust her dosages downward. After about two weeks, she was completely off of insulin!

http://thepaleodiet.com/success-story-the-paleo-diet-and-type-1-diabetes/

dannno
06-09-2015, 09:55 PM
I'm pretty sure black people have a much higher rate of diabetes than white people and other people with lighter skin because their skin doesn't absorb as much vitamin d, and vitamin d deficiency is linked to diabetes.

That's possible, maybe vitamin D helps people process carbs better. Or maybe black people's digestive systems are less likely to have evolved in the last 10,000 years to eat a lot of grains and starches due to their largely tribal hunter and gatherer setting for much of that time. But carbs is the primary cause of diabetes, bursting your blood sugar constantly reduces your insulin sensitivity and over time your ability to produce it.

The cool thing is you can actually REVERSE it with a low carb diet.

juleswin
06-09-2015, 09:57 PM
I'm pretty sure black people have a much higher rate of diabetes than white people and other people with lighter skin because their skin doesn't absorb as much vitamin d, and vitamin d deficiency is linked to diabetes.

WTF? the overwhelming cause of type 2 diabetes is lifestyle i.e. food choice like danno said and activity level. Race has very little to do with it. Type I on the other hand is genetic like most autoimmune disease. If a black person has diabetes, it most likely because of what he puts in his mouth and how active he/she is and not because of his skin color or vitamin D

juleswin
06-09-2015, 10:12 PM
Even if they have to continue their insulin treatment to some extent and get checked up on occasion, there are a lot of adverse medical reactions, some people lose legs. Anything that can vastly improve their condition is going to be very helpful to their longterm health and may avoid some serious medical bills and permanent disabling injuries.




http://thepaleodiet.com/success-story-the-paleo-diet-and-type-1-diabetes/

Again, I agree with you to some extent but you still need continuous blood testing because you need to know what your blood sugar to know how much insulin dose to inject. Testing costs a lot of money and also they will never ever wean themselves from artificial insulin. Even if you eliminate insulin cost by 50% and the cost of testing stays the same

I am a nursing student in my final year, I have done a lot of reading about diabetes, I have also done a lot of caring and teaching for people with diabetes and the people who get their get complications from diabetes are the patients who don't maintain their blood sugar within the normal range.

parocks
06-09-2015, 11:36 PM
Garlic improves insulin sensitivity and associated metabolic syndromes in fructose fed rats
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3168415/

Red peppers with moderate and severe pungency prevent the memory deficit and hepatic insulin resistance in diabetic rats with Alzheimer's disease.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25755673

The effect of ginger powder supplementation on insulin resistance and glycemic indices in patients with type 2 diabetes:
a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24559810

Anti-hyperglycemic and insulin sensitizer effects of turmeric and its principle constituent curcumin.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25745485

Fermented milk, Kefram-Kefir enhances glucose uptake into insulin-responsive muscle cells
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3449522/



So, Cinnamon, Garlic, Hot Peppers, Ginger, Turmeric, Kefir - all help fight diabetes.

I'd suggest that eating these things would cause weight loss

(I have found this to be the case personally - I've started eating these
things, and kefir, and coconut oil - and lost a good amount of weight. Not really intentionally, my goal was to identify a food that I could make and eat that would
contain a lot of general nutrition, a lot of the best stuff you can get. I drink the same sugar soda. Don't exercise much. Eat pretty much the same,
but I added 1 superfood, which is basically kefir, with these good things in it, and I deep fry in coconut oil now, instead of microwaving.

Sure, it's best to only eat the most expensive organic version of meat, but life is hard. Going to a supermarket with the awareness that almost everything
is really bad, even things like wheat, bread, are suspect. It's tricky. You add cinnamon, garlic, ginger, hot pepper, turmeric to Kefir, have that ferment,
you have a lot of really good stuff happening there. I lost weight - just by drinking some of that at night and in the morning. Like, drink half before you go to sleep
and the rest when you wake up. Or not, but there is a lot of dense nutrition, those 5 additions are all good ones, and voila, lose weight. Just adding deep
frying in coconut oil.

dannno
06-09-2015, 11:45 PM
Again, I agree with you to some extent but you still need continuous blood testing because you need to know what your blood sugar to know how much insulin dose to inject. Testing costs a lot of money and also they will never ever wean themselves from artificial insulin. Even if you eliminate insulin cost by 50% and the cost of testing stays the same

I am a nursing student in my final year, I have done a lot of reading about diabetes, I have also done a lot of caring and teaching for people with diabetes and the people who get their get complications from diabetes are the patients who don't maintain their blood sugar within the normal range.

As I posted, some people are able to get off insulin with a low carb diet. I'm not saying it wouldn't take some monitoring or that it will work for everybody, but ultimately it would require leilass monitoring and less insulin and there would be less debilitating conditions that result.

You have to realize that you work for a government subsidized profit center who wants to extract as much money from people as possible and as a result there is a lot of misinformation about health out there. You can still help people, but also might get in trouble for advocating some of the things I'm saying which could be incredibly helpful.

dannno
06-09-2015, 11:47 PM
Garlic improves insulin sensitivity and associated metabolic syndromes in fructose fed rats
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3168415/

Red peppers with moderate and severe pungency prevent the memory deficit and hepatic insulin resistance in diabetic rats with Alzheimer's disease.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25755673

The effect of ginger powder supplementation on insulin resistance and glycemic indices in patients with type 2 diabetes:
a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24559810

Anti-hyperglycemic and insulin sensitizer effects of turmeric and its principle constituent curcumin.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25745485

Fermented milk, Kefram-Kefir enhances glucose uptake into insulin-responsive muscle cells
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3449522/



So, Cinnamon, Garlic, Hot Peppers, Ginger, Turmeric, Kefir - all help fight diabetes.

I'd suggest that eating these things would cause weight loss

(I have found this to be the case personally - I've started eating these
things, and kefir, and coconut oil - and lost a good amount of weight. Not really intentionally, my goal was to identify a food that I could make and eat that would
contain a lot of general nutrition, a lot of the best stuff you can get. I drink the same sugar soda. Don't exercise much. Eat pretty much the same,
but I added 1 superfood, which is basically kefir, with these good things in it, and I deep fry in coconut oil now, instead of microwaving.

Sure, it's best to only eat the most expensive organic version of meat, but life is hard. Going to a supermarket with the awareness that almost everything
is really bad, even things like wheat, bread, are suspect. It's tricky. You add cinnamon, garlic, ginger, hot pepper, turmeric to Kefir, have that ferment,
you have a lot of really good stuff happening there. I lost weight - just by drinking some of that at night and in the morning. Like, drink half before you go to sleep
and the rest when you wake up. Or not, but there is a lot of dense nutrition, those 5 additions are all good ones, and voila, lose weight. Just adding deep
frying in coconut oil.

Cannabis reduces insulin spikes by 20% and increases insulin sensitivity by 20%.

parocks
06-10-2015, 12:26 AM
Cannabis reduces insulin spikes by 20% and increases insulin sensitivity by 20%.


The impact of marijuana use on glucose, insulin, and insulin resistance among US adults.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23684393

But almost everything that is ready to eat is pretty much bad for you. Get rid of wheat and corn, I guess.

dannno
06-10-2015, 12:34 AM
But almost everything that is ready to eat is pretty much bad for you. Get rid of wheat and corn, I guess.

Well I think grains can serve a place, they can be a part of a cheat meal or cheat dessert, or for people who have fallen on hard times financially they may be ok to survive on temporarily. They are also good for longterm food storage for emergencies. But they are not good as a major pillar of ones diet and should largely be avoided or eaten in moderation.

If you live in india and you eat a lot of yogurt, butter, veggies, fruit and lentils with little or no meat and you have a small side of rice that's not really the worst diet in the world.

But if you're eating a lot of bread, processed foods, sugar, vegetable oils and a bunch of other carbs as a large part of your diet then you are a typical American.

parocks
06-10-2015, 12:41 AM
Well I think grains can serve a place, they can be a part of a cheat meal or dessert, or for people who have fallen on hard times financially they may be ok to survive on temporarily. But they are not good as a major pillar of ones diet and should largely be avoided or eaten in moderation.

There's so much in the way of GMO around there. Newer varieties of wheat are less digestible by many. I'm talking processed food. I'm not an expert on this, but soaking grains is good, and sprouting grains is good, fermenting grains, etc, I'm not saying grains all bad, I'm saying - going into a store to buy something that is typically something easy to eat - a typical cracker, bread, etc - so much of that stuff is bad.

DamianTV
06-10-2015, 10:34 AM
Welfare subsidizes McDonalds for too low of wages. How many WalMarx employees are on Food Stamps? By offering Welfare that Govt pays for, the costs are incurred indirectly by everyone else (redistribution of wealth), including you. They are already getting paind 15 an hour, and youre covering the other 5 bucks an hour. If there were no Welfare, this guy would be striving to find another better paying job. It doesnt mean that the better paying job would be available, but what would happen is McDonalds would lose more of their employees to better paying competitors. Either that or they would choose to pay their employees a competitive wage. Raising the Minimum Wage is only a temporary fix as prices are about to go up by at least an equal percent. Anyone remember the $0.29 hamburger? Yeah, now up to a buck fifty. In a measly 20 years. The "Dollar Menu"? Thats a thing of the past, soon to be replaced by the "Ten Dollar Menu". And it wont be "Ten Dollars or Less", it will be "Ten Dollars or More". The last mistake about Wealth Redistribution that confuses most people is they do not have to touch the Quantity of Money. Since they have access to an Unlimited Printing Press, they are redistributing the Value of Money without ever touching the Quantity. When prices go up, that is because the Value has dropped. Those without access to the Unlimited Money Printing Press have no choice but to adjust the Quantity exchange for product or service. That is how Wealth Redistribution continues to go unnoticed by most people. Had Inflation not destroyed the value of the dollar, where a burger was still a Nickel or so, this guy would have been living high on the hog at 10 bucks an hour. But since the value of money has gone down, the price of goods and services has gone up, by an even higher rate. And raising the Minimum Wage does not help because there is now more cost to McDonalds to pay their wages that isnt susidized, their prices are about to go up by at least an equal degree.

Govt interference has fucked everything up.

#1 - McDonalds low wages are subsidized by Welfare
#2 - Corporations exploit Govt to prohibit competition. Employees become trapped.

Solution: Get Govt the fuck out of Business completely and let the truly Free Market dictate both the Wage and Price of goods and services.

Warrior_of_Freedom
06-10-2015, 09:39 PM
Welfare subsidizes McDonalds for too low of wages. How many WalMarx employees are on Food Stamps? By offering Welfare that Govt pays for, the costs are incurred indirectly by everyone else (redistribution of wealth), including you. They are already getting paind 15 an hour, and youre covering the other 5 bucks an hour. If there were no Welfare, this guy would be striving to find another better paying job. It doesnt mean that the better paying job would be available, but what would happen is McDonalds would lose more of their employees to better paying competitors. Either that or they would choose to pay their employees a competitive wage. Raising the Minimum Wage is only a temporary fix as prices are about to go up by at least an equal percent. Anyone remember the $0.29 hamburger? Yeah, now up to a buck fifty. In a measly 20 years. The "Dollar Menu"? Thats a thing of the past, soon to be replaced by the "Ten Dollar Menu". And it wont be "Ten Dollars or Less", it will be "Ten Dollars or More". The last mistake about Wealth Redistribution that confuses most people is they do not have to touch the Quantity of Money. Since they have access to an Unlimited Printing Press, they are redistributing the Value of Money without ever touching the Quantity. When prices go up, that is because the Value has dropped. Those without access to the Unlimited Money Printing Press have no choice but to adjust the Quantity exchange for product or service. That is how Wealth Redistribution continues to go unnoticed by most people. Had Inflation not destroyed the value of the dollar, where a burger was still a Nickel or so, this guy would have been living high on the hog at 10 bucks an hour. But since the value of money has gone down, the price of goods and services has gone up, by an even higher rate. And raising the Minimum Wage does not help because there is now more cost to McDonalds to pay their wages that isnt susidized, their prices are about to go up by at least an equal degree.

Govt interference has fucked everything up.

#1 - McDonalds low wages are subsidized by Welfare
#2 - Corporations exploit Govt to prohibit competition. Employees become trapped.

Solution: Get Govt the fuck out of Business completely and let the truly Free Market dictate both the Wage and Price of goods and services.

If he was working in 1940 he would be making around 30 cents an hour, that's how much money was worth back then.

http://money.cnn.com/interactive/economy/minimum-wage-since-1938/

Warrior_of_Freedom
06-10-2015, 09:43 PM
WTF? the overwhelming cause of type 2 diabetes is lifestyle i.e. food choice like danno said and activity level. Race has very little to do with it. Type I on the other hand is genetic like most autoimmune disease. If a black person has diabetes, it most likely because of what he puts in his mouth and how active he/she is and not because of his skin color or vitamin D

Look it up, black people get diabetes much more than white people. If millions of white people have vitamin d deficiencies, it's even worse for black people because their skin absorbs less of it. It makes sense, because in Africa you bake in the sun, so their skin is darker to protect against the sun there. People from Northern Europe usually experience a lot of cloudy weather without such harsh sun, thus lighter skin to absorb more. I guess nature is racist.

juleswin
06-10-2015, 10:07 PM
Look it up, black people get diabetes much more than white people. If millions of white people have vitamin d deficiencies, it's even worse for black people because their skin absorbs less of it. It makes sense, because in Africa you bake in the sun, so their skin is darker to protect against the sun there. People from Northern Europe usually experience a lot of cloudy weather without such harsh sun, thus lighter skin to absorb more. I guess nature is racist.

Look, vitamin D may have some "Kevin Bacon 6 degree of separation" type relationship with diabetes. But what I am trying to tell you is that the relationship is at best very weak and non existent at worse. Lifestyle and diet has the strongest causal relationship when it comes to diabetes (type II).

Blacks living in the bible belt have a much higher rate of diabetes than their counterparts in the North even though they receive way more sunlight than people living in the North. Also if the relationship was there, rates of diabetes for the South Sudanese living in the US would be considerably higher than that of other blacks on the count that they are the darkest people living today. But it is not.

Just because a disease is more preventable in black people doesn't means that it has something to do with skin color.

parocks
06-12-2015, 07:16 PM
Welfare subsidizes McDonalds for too low of wages. How many WalMarx employees are on Food Stamps? By offering Welfare that Govt pays for, the costs are incurred indirectly by everyone else (redistribution of wealth), including you. They are already getting paind 15 an hour, and youre covering the other 5 bucks an hour. If there were no Welfare, this guy would be striving to find another better paying job. It doesnt mean that the better paying job would be available, but what would happen is McDonalds would lose more of their employees to better paying competitors. Either that or they would choose to pay their employees a competitive wage. Raising the Minimum Wage is only a temporary fix as prices are about to go up by at least an equal percent. Anyone remember the $0.29 hamburger? Yeah, now up to a buck fifty. In a measly 20 years. The "Dollar Menu"? Thats a thing of the past, soon to be replaced by the "Ten Dollar Menu". And it wont be "Ten Dollars or Less", it will be "Ten Dollars or More". The last mistake about Wealth Redistribution that confuses most people is they do not have to touch the Quantity of Money. Since they have access to an Unlimited Printing Press, they are redistributing the Value of Money without ever touching the Quantity. When prices go up, that is because the Value has dropped. Those without access to the Unlimited Money Printing Press have no choice but to adjust the Quantity exchange for product or service. That is how Wealth Redistribution continues to go unnoticed by most people. Had Inflation not destroyed the value of the dollar, where a burger was still a Nickel or so, this guy would have been living high on the hog at 10 bucks an hour. But since the value of money has gone down, the price of goods and services has gone up, by an even higher rate. And raising the Minimum Wage does not help because there is now more cost to McDonalds to pay their wages that isnt susidized, their prices are about to go up by at least an equal degree.

Govt interference has fucked everything up.

#1 - McDonalds low wages are subsidized by Welfare
#2 - Corporations exploit Govt to prohibit competition. Employees become trapped.

Solution: Get Govt the fuck out of Business completely and let the truly Free Market dictate both the Wage and Price of goods and services.

If there was no welfare - what would happen to the people on welfare?

The jobs aren't there.

The government takes a third of our money. Read Adam Smith, and try to figure out if there's a free market where the invisible hand works when the government takes a third of the money.

There isn't.

Things would work if the govt wasn't taking so much money, but minimum wages and welfare are necessary because we can't buy enough stuff, all the people aren't needed to sell me stuff. I'd like to eat more McD, but the govt took 1/3 of my money, so I can't buy the extra McD, and I don't need an extra person to sell me McD. Since we don't want people to starve, and the government is increasing the percentage of my money they take every year, we need min wages and welfare.


This one - "And raising the Minimum Wage does not help because there is now more cost to McDonalds to pay their wages that isnt susidized, their prices are about to go up by at least an equal degree."

Show your math.

Labor costs go up. Are Labor costs the only costs? The actual food is grown somewhere else. Did everyone there get a raise? No.

What you'll likely find is that if Labor costs, in Los Angeles, are half the costs, the prices would likely go up by half of the size of the min wage hike. So, a dollar McChicken, in 2020, would cost $1.30 (give or take a nickel), if the total cost of the Los Angeles labor embedded in the McChicken was half. I suspect it's less. Or less, because everyone is competing for business, and they aren't going to put themselves in a less competitive position if they can help it.

Ender
06-12-2015, 07:56 PM
Look, vitamin D may have some "Kevin Bacon 6 degree of separation" type relationship with diabetes. But what I am trying to tell you is that the relationship is at best very weak and non existent at worse. Lifestyle and diet has the strongest causal relationship when it comes to diabetes (type II).

Blacks living in the bible belt have a much higher rate of diabetes than their counterparts in the North even though they receive way more sunlight than people living in the North. Also if the relationship was there, rates of diabetes for the South Sudanese living in the US would be considerably higher than that of other blacks on the count that they are the darkest people living today. But it is not.

Just because a disease is more preventable in black people doesn't means that it has something to do with skin color.


Vitamin D problems has everything to do with skin color. The lighter the skin, the more efficient is the absorption of Vit D. Darker skinned peoples have a much tougher time with problems relating to lack of Vit D.

Cissy
06-12-2015, 10:11 PM
Dear Sir: Your problem is not your income; your problem is your expenses. Learn to get yourself on a budget and stick to it. Also, eat healthier so that you will have less need for expensive medications.

cindy25
06-12-2015, 10:53 PM
isn't the purpose of the higher minimum to get people off govt handouts? its time Wal-Mart and McDo lost their low wage subsidies

Ender
06-12-2015, 11:42 PM
isn't the purpose of the higher minimum to get people off govt handouts? its time Wal-Mart and McDo lost their low wage subsidies

No- the purpose is to keep everyone enslaved.

The answer is to get .gov out of business and let real capitalism take the helm.

CT4Liberty
06-13-2015, 06:14 PM
Pikers.

Cheapskates.

Raise it to $100 an hour.

$481/hr and we'd all be millionaires!!!

RJB
06-13-2015, 06:30 PM
Cannabis reduces insulin spikes by 20% and increases insulin sensitivity by 20%.

According to you, is there anything that cannibis won't help? :)

juleswin
06-13-2015, 07:29 PM
Vitamin D problems has everything to do with skin color. The lighter the skin, the more efficient is the absorption of Vit D. Darker skinned peoples have a much tougher time with problems relating to lack of Vit D.

True but what does that information got to do with diabetes? Do you think dark skinned people are more likely to get diabetes because of that generally low UV ray absorption? If no, why bring it up?

Ender
06-14-2015, 02:17 AM
True but what does that information got to do with diabetes? Do you think dark skinned people are more likely to get diabetes because of that generally low UV ray absorption? If no, why bring it up?

I didn't bring it up- was just answering the previous post. And yes, Vitamin D shortage is linked to Type 1 Diabetes.