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Suzanimal
06-09-2015, 05:29 AM
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The families of an anti-Al-Qaeda cleric and a police officer killed in a US drone strike in Yemen in 2012, have filed a lawsuit in Washington, DC, seeking an official apology and acknowledgement that innocent civilians were mistakenly killed.

Faisal Ali Jaber, an engineer, who lost a brother-in-law Salem and his nephew Waleed in a drone strike, has filed the lawsuit. He is asking the District Court to declare the attack by the unmanned aircraft unlawful. The international human rights group Reprieve is giving Ali Jaber assistance.

The plaintiffs said they are seeking to break the secrecy surrounding drones strikes and have the court impose some public accountability for the program.

“Since the awful day when I lost two of my loved ones, my family and I have been asking the US government to admit their error and say sorry. Our pleas has been ignored. No one will publicly admit that an American drone killed Salem and Waleed, even though we all know it. This is unjust,” said Ali Jaber.

Faisal’s brother-in-law Salem Ahmed bin Ali Jaber, was a cleric who had delivered an anti-Al-Qaeda speech just days before the strike. Three young men had driven to the village with the intention of trying to find Salem and asked to speak to him several times. Salem finally agreed to meet with them with Waleed as protection. As the five men talked, four Hellfire missiles killed them, as villagers watched on August 29, 2012 in eastern Yemen.

“The bodies of all five men were blown apart,” according to the complaint. “Salem and Waleed could be identified only be people who knew them well and could recognize body parts – such as distinctive hair on portions of the heads of Salem and Waleed found in the blast area.”

Salem is survived by a widow and seven children and Waleed, 26, had a wife and child.

Leaked intelligence, reported by The Intercept, indicated US official knew they had killed civilians shortly after the strike.

Faisal bin Ali Jabar received a phone call from a Yemeni security official hours after the attack informing him that Salem and Waleed were not the intended targets. In November 2013 Faisal traveled to Washington, DC, to discuss the strike with Senators and White House officials. Many offered their condolences for the deaths but they did not receive an official apology, according to Reprieve.

In 2014, Yemeni officials paid the families a total of $155,000 in compensation in cash. The families assumed the money came from the US but no explanation was forthcoming.

“If the US was willing to pay off my family in secret cash, why can’t they simply make a public acknowledgement that my relatives were wrongly killed?” said Ali Jaber in a released statement by Reprieve.
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http://rt.com/usa/265885-yemeni-families-sue-drone-strikes/

tod evans
06-09-2015, 06:37 AM
The plaintiffs said they are seeking to break the secrecy surrounding drones strikes and have the court impose some public accountability for the program.

Until governments functionaries are known and made accessible to the general public there will be no accountability.

You cannot hold "programs" accountable.

enhanced_deficit
06-09-2015, 10:26 PM
Not to give too much credence to overly dramatic Billy Graham-Nixon secret tapes on US media being controlled but why is US media this week had multiple front page headlines on Kardhasian/Jenner family's butt selfies but not a single headline on this news story?

US media owners must answer this question so DGP's masters can be held accountable.

Ronin Truth
06-10-2015, 12:41 PM
What is their exact physical address?

So that the official apology may be delivered somewhat more quickly. :rolleyes:

Anti Federalist
06-10-2015, 02:51 PM
What is their exact physical address?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYeWdukr3Ik

libertarianMoney
06-10-2015, 02:55 PM
What is their exact physical address?

So that the official apology may be delivered somewhat more quickly. :rolleyes:

I'm sure the CIA's best men are on the case to ensure *cough cough* the proper delivery of the "message."

Suzanimal
06-30-2017, 03:09 PM
US federal court tosses out lawsuit over Yemeni men killed in drone strike

The unanimous ruling by a three-judge panel of the US court of appeals for the District of Columbia circuit in Washington upheld a lower court’s finding that it lacked the authority to question decision-making by the government over the missile strike.

The case began in 2015 when the families of Salem bin Ali Jaber, an imam, and Waleed bin Ali Jaber, a police officer, filed a “wrongful death” suit against the US government, Barack Obama and other US officials.

They claimed the deaths were collateral damage in an August, 2012, Hellfire missile attack by a US drone in the eastern Yemeni village of Khashamir targeting three extremists, court papers said.

Salem had recently preached against al-Qaida and brought Waleed, his nephew, along for protection to a meeting requested by the three, the papers said. All five men were killed in the strike.

The families sought a court declaration that the strike violated international and US law. The lawsuit did not seek monetary relief.

The United States has been conducting counter-terrorism operations in Yemen for years against militant groups such as al-Qaida. In 2013, Obama set tighter rules on drone strikes and promised greater transparency.

Monday’s ruling tossing the suit said that, based on legal precedent, judges cannot second-guess the government’s military judgment. It is “the executive, and not a panel of the DC circuit, who commands our armed forces and determines our nation’s foreign policy”, the ruling said.

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The circuit judge Janice Rogers Brown, who wrote the decision, also issued a rare separate opinion calling for greater oversight over the drone program.

She said the legal doctrine preventing courts from reviewing the decision-making by the president and Congress in foreign policy or national security matters may be “deeply flawed” because it blocks any court supervision of the use of sophisticated new military technologies such as drones.

“Of course, this begs the question: if judges will not check this outsized power, then who will?” said Brown, who was appointed to the appeals court bench by George W Bush. She called congressional oversight “a joke – and a bad one at that”.

The other two judges on the panel, both appointed by Obama, did not join her separate opinion.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/30/yemen-us-drone-strike-lawsuit?CMP=twt_gu

Zippyjuan
06-30-2017, 06:07 PM
Back in March: https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-03-14/report-trump-gives-cia-authority-for-drone-strikes


Report: Trump Gives CIA Authority for Drone Strikes


President Donald Trump has granted the CIA authority to conduct lethal drone strikes once again, according to a news report, rolling back the limits his predecessor Barack Obama imposed on the spy agency's paramilitary operations.

The Wall Street Journal on Monday reported Trump decided to return the authority to the CIA after meeting with top agency officials on Jan. 21, a day after taking office. Trump had made accelerating the fight against the Islamic State group and other terrorist organizations a key component of his campaign.

The Journal reported the CIA has already conducted at least one strike, killing Abu al-Khayr al-Masri, a senior al-Qaida leader in Syria and son-in-law of Osama bin Laden. It's unclear whether the agency has conducted other strikes outside of Syria; the Pentagon did not claim credit for what appears to be an airstrike in Pakistan near the Afghanistan border, which it usually would have if it were responsible.

Military officials reportedly scrambled to determine how to respond to the president's decision and renewed shared authority for drone strikes with their intelligence counterparts, the Journal reported.

Where as previously, National Security Council officials or even the president himself would authorize these strikes, the new rules Trump has reportedly enacted allow CIA supervisors and others managing these covert operations to give the OK themselves.

"To me, it looks like taking the gloves off the CIA to be able to go after these militants, or suspected militants," says Karl Kaltenthaler, a professor at the University of Akron and an expert in the intersection of drones and modern warfare.



"These are now covert operations, the government can't say anything about these in the public sphere, they can't even confirm or deny that these operations even took place."

Danke
06-30-2017, 06:36 PM
Back in March: https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-03-14/report-trump-gives-cia-authority-for-drone-strikes


Trump doesn't give the CIA anything. They are an entity onto their own. JFK learned that the hard way.

timosman
06-30-2017, 08:21 PM
Trump doesn't give the CIA anything. They are an entity onto their own. JFK learned that the hard way.

It was a lone gunman.:rolleyes:

Origanalist
06-30-2017, 08:36 PM
It was a lone gunman.:rolleyes:

And a magic bullet.

merkelstan
07-01-2017, 01:16 AM
Can you imagine Russia or China fllying drones over the US, killing anyone they deem might become a threat to 'their interests'?

enhanced_deficit
07-01-2017, 07:27 AM
US federal court tosses out lawsuit over Yemeni men killed in drone strike

The unanimous ruling by a three-judge panel of the US court of appeals for the District of Columbia circuit in Washington upheld a lower court’s finding that it lacked the authority to question decision-making by the government over the missile strike.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/30/yemen-us-drone-strike-lawsuit?CMP=twt_gu


Pretty dignified move, certainly above the diginity of their offices.

US media's coverage on this is spot on.