Nevada Stays With Caucus System in Blow to Jeb Bush

[RonPaulFanInGA]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/nevada-stays-caucus-system-blow-jeb-bush-31475619


Nevada is keeping its caucuses for selecting presidential nominees, a blow to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and other contenders who hoped to shift the early-voting state to a system of primaries.

Caucuses are considered favorable to candidates who have a network of highly motivated activists, such as Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul.

Republican Gov. Brian Sandoval, who has met with Bush, backed legislation to change to a primary, but the bill never came up for a vote before the Legislature adjourned Monday night. It was the subject of frantic horse-trading and lobbying in the state capitol in Carson City until the final minutes of the session.

The state's Republican Lt. Gov. Mark Hutchison, chairman of Florida Sen. Marco Rubio's 2016 presidential campaign in Nevada, had pushed for the bill.

[Warlord]

yesssssss!

[Mr.NoSmile]

While it's a positive for Paul, it can only remain a positive if the numbers are in his favor, if other camps don't pull any shenanigans like unity slates or fake slates, if there's no nonsense, the possibilities of others wanting recounts...this is just one step.

[libertyplz]

While it's a positive for Paul, it can only remain a positive if the numbers are in his favor, if other camps don't pull any shenanigans like unity slates or fake slates, if there's no nonsense, the possibilities of others wanting recounts...this is just one step.

This! I recall fishy behavior last go around with Ron Paul. Wasn't there something about them taking the votes in a van and moving them off site to be counted? or am I imagining this? I could also be confusing it with a different state

Edit: here is one thread I found. Some shenanigans from last go around, will probably be facing the same thing this go around
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?358469-Local-NV-News-claims-that-NVGOP-might-dump-some-precincts/page2

But again, good news and is being reported as a win for Rand, here is one report: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-06-02/a-win-for-rand-paul-nevada-s-republicans-stick-with-the-caucus

For the moment, key Republicans are acknowledging that Rand Paul has an inside track in Nevada. "Rand's dad did quite well there, and I would anticipate Rand to do quite well himself," said Heller. "I'm going to guess that it leans in favor of Rand, just based on the make-up of today's state party."

[Crashland]

Nevada is a must-win state. If Rand can't win a caucus in a pro-Paul state then he has very little chance elsewhere.

[The Northbreather]

While it's a positive for Paul, it can only remain a positive if the numbers are in his favor, if other camps don't pull any shenanigans like unity slates or fake slates, if there's no nonsense, the possibilities of others wanting recounts...this is just one step.
But we lost hookers for Paul....

[RonPaulFanInGA]

But we lost hookers for Paul....

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2007/12/05/1205_ron_paul_ex_ap_-1.jpg

[phill4paul]

http://ll-media.tmz.com/2007/12/05/1205_ron_paul_ex_ap_-1.jpg

They'll "bottom" for Hillary....

http://cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2015/04/21/meet-the-hookers-for-hillary-why-prostitutes-want-hillary-clinton-for-president/jcr:content/image.img.2000.jpg/1432135313376.cached.jpg

[tod evans]

But we lost hookers for Paul....

Temporarily.....

[luctor-et-emergo]

But we lost hookers for Paul....

They are the definition of 'attention whores'.

[eleganz]

The earlier we do phone from home when its activated for volunteers, the better the campaign will know their electorate and base, the easier it is to get their vote and turn them out.

Plus people get really pissed when they're being bombarded with calls.

[Keith and stuff]

The state's Republican Lt. Gov. Mark Hutchison, chairman of Florida Sen. Marco Rubio's 2016 presidential campaign in Nevada, had pushed for the bill.

Seems suspect.

[Badger Paul]

No primary for you!

[BrooklynZoo]

As someone who was a state delegate for Ron Paul at the 2012 Nevada GOP convention, this is great news. For those of you who have not been part of a caucus, that was one of the highlights of any election I've ever been part of.

A Primary favors low information voters, and is not a republican process. I delivered a rousing two minute speech to several undecided voters and won my Precinct for Ron Paul. That despite the fact that my small group included Newt Gingrich's head of finance for Nevada, who was also the former Clark County GOP chair(!) This would not have been possible had the election been a Primary. That any Republican would willingly support a change from a uniquely republican process to a democratic process of a Primary is a clear indicator that he is a RINO, as both Nevada's governor and lt. governor are.

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

http://i.imgur.com/hzaJ4Hn.png

[mit26chell]

Seems suspect.

Not at all . . . he pushed for a bill that would have benefited the establishment and hurt Rand. The bill never went anywhere and they are out of session.

[Valli6]

..

HARRY REID BLOCKS CHANGES TO NEVADA PRESIDENTIAL CAUCUS RULES
by BREITBART NEWS 7 Jun 2015

...Known for meddling in politics at all levels in his home state of Nevada, the Democrat intervened earlier this week to help kill a GOP-backed bill in the Legislature that would have allowed Nevada to trade its presidential caucuses for primaries, seen as friendlier to establishment candidates like former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) who might be tougher for Democrats to beat.

The surprise outcome exasperated Republicans from Las Vegas to Washington and served notice that even as Reid heads into retirement, Republicans will have to get around him if they hope to win Nevada in 2016. And it was just the latest move from a masterful tactician who rules his home state’s political scene like no other and is determined to keep the White House and his own Senate seat in Democratic hands though his name will never again be on the ballot.

“Harry’s an icon, there hasn’t been anybody in politics like him. Whether you like his politics or not he’s carved out a spot that quite frankly is unique in the history of Nevada politics,” said Republican Rep. Mark Amodei (R-NV), a former state party chairman. “He’s a results-oriented guy, and until we really hug ‘what are they doing, and how do we compete with that’ there’ll continue to be days where we struggle.”…
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...And he’s working to help a hand-picked successor, former state Attorney General Catherine Cortez Masto, replace him in the Senate, though he denied any role in talking Democratic Rep. Dina Titus (D-NV) out of the race.

“She made the decision on her own. I don’t get involved in stuff like that,” Reid said.

Reid himself was instrumental in pushing for the Nevada caucus system in the first place, in 2008, which gave Nevada early state presidential voting status with nominating contests held in January, third only to Iowa and New Hampshire. That brought unprecedented attention to the small state during the primary fight between Barack Obama and Clinton, registering tens of thousands of new Democratic voters who would help Democrats win in 2008 and 2012 — and, not coincidentally, help Reid himself to re-election in 2010 when he was being written off as politically dead.

At the same time the caucuses proved an embarrassment for the GOP. The 2008 GOP convention was prematurely shut down as activists clashed, [:rolleyes:] while in 2012 the turnout was an anemic 8 percent. With a wide-open primary field and the chance to reclaim the White House in 2016, Republicans saw an opportunity for Nevada to play an important role. Holding primaries would boost participation — since voters would only have to show up to the polls, not attend hours-long meetings — and would require less expense and organizing from candidates.

Establishment Republicans also saw a benefit for candidates like Bush, since caucuses tend to be dominated by conservative party activists who might gravitate toward a figure like libertarian-minded Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY). Kentucky’s junior senator already has a network of supporters in the state thanks to candidacies by his father, former Texas Rep. Ron Paul.

Legislation to make the change was widely supported by the GOP heading into the legislative session that ended earlier this week, but Reid made a call to a Democratic supporter in the Assembly, Harvey Munford, who promptly had a change of heart. The session ended with no vote on the bill.

“Basically, he spelled it out to me,” Munford said later, adding that Reid had warned of the possibility that Nevada could lose its early state role, which was predicated on holding caucuses.

Nevada’s junior senator, Republican Sen. Dean Heller (R-NV), said Reid was “obviously … doing what’s in his best interest, and I was doing what was in my best interest and I was disappointed to see the result.”

“Ron Paul did well in the state with a caucus last couple of cycles, and I think that his son will do well also,” Heller added.

Reid himself shrugged off a question about whether his move could end up pushing Republicans to nominate a more right-wing candidate.

“I didn’t know they had anybody else running. So who else would they nominate?” Reid said.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/07/harry-reid-blocks-changes-to-nevada-presidential-caucus-rules

[Bastiat's The Law]

The Paul people need to retake Nevada again.

[nikcers]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/04/22/rand.paul.cms.gif.gif

[euphemia]

*snort* *giggle*

[philipped]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/04/22/rand.paul.cms.gif.gif

Maaaaaan, let's go!!!

[puppetmaster]

The 2008 GOP convention was prematurely shut down as activists clashed, [] while in 2012 the turnout was an anemic 8 percent.

Yes I remember...they found out they would lose so they cut and ran. As for the low turn out...you get no turnout when the only choices they have are two of the same pitiful SOBs

[Ronin Truth]

What's that ~4 or so GOP convention delegates at stake? <YAWN!>

[rich34]

What's that ~4 or so GOP convention delegates at stake? <YAWN!>

Perception... How many delegates are available in New Hampshire, hell Iowa even? Winning those early contests creates the perception of inevitability.

[Ronin Truth]

Perception... How many delegates are available in New Hampshire, hell Iowa even? Winning those early contests creates the perception of inevitability.

Of a dominant preponderance of such accumulated perceptions a POTUS is formed. :rolleyes:

[Valli6]

The 2008 GOP convention was prematurely shut down as activists clashed, [] while in 2012 the turnout was an anemic 8 percent.

Yes I remember...they found out they would lose so they cut and ran. As for the low turn out...you get no turnout when the only choices they have are two of the same pitiful SOBs
And remember that special caucus they held just for Sheldon Adelson in 2012?

Ron Paul campaign slams decision to accommodate Newt’s “billionaire buddy” casino magnate at special caucus
By Carla Marinucci on January 27, 2012

...But the Nevada GOP has raised eyebrows with its move to provide a special evening caucus session at the Adelson Educational Campus, a private school in Las Vegas founded by Adelson. State Republicans told the Chronicle the decision came after pressure from the billionaire who donated $5 million to a special PAC in support of GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich — a donation that was matched by his wife, Miriam.
Adelson, one of the world’s richest men, is an Orthodox Jew and observes the Sabbath from sundown on Friday until sundown on Saturday. The special Adelson caucus would reportedly accommodate some 500 conservative observant Jewish voters who presumably also would be observing religious traditions on Saturday morning...

http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2012/01/27/ron-paul-campaign-slams-decision-to-accommodate-newts-billionaire-buddy-casino-magnate-at-special-caucus/?plckItemsPerPage=50&plckSort=TimeStampDescending&plckFindCommentKey=CommentKey:4c9e0dc2-d79c-401a-8b2b-b0dbc0aad366

[CaptUSA]

I just like that they used "Blow" and "Bush" in the same headline. :D

https://bcclist.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/bush-coke.jpg

[rich34]

Of a dominant preponderance of such accumulated perceptions a POTUS is formed. :rolleyes:

Yeah well, it is what it is. You gotta play the game to win and obviously perception is huge to the American psyche..

[Ronin Truth]

Yeah well, it is what it is. You gotta play the game to win and obviously perception is huge to the American psyche..

Nah, I gave up playing that game in 1972. Anything bad happened since then, just blame the voters.

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

LOL that article. It essentially says that American's cannot even muster a few hours for their civic duties so, instead of taking some time to come together, think about things, and provide a forum for debate before deciding on the candidate you're going to vote for, it's better for the McDonalds fast food take on voting. LOL. Then they (the media) and others have the audacity to call America a democracy, when they want to erode even the small civic engagements that we do have, never mind our election laws preclude anything, but the corrupt duopoly. Why on Earth is party affiliation even on the ballot. Should just be names.