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tod evans
06-02-2015, 07:33 AM
FBI flying surveillance aircraft over US cities; planes traced to fake companies

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/02/fbi-flying-surveillance-aircraft-over-us-cities-planes-traced-to-fake-companies/

The FBI is operating a small air force with scores of low-flying planes across the country carrying video and, at times, cellphone surveillance technology -- all hidden behind fictitious companies that are fronts for the government, The Associated Press has learned.

The planes' surveillance equipment is generally used without a judge's approval, and the FBI said the flights are used for specific, ongoing investigations. In a recent 30-day period, the agency flew above more than 30 cities in 11 states across the country, an AP review found.

Aerial surveillance represents a changing frontier for law enforcement, providing what the government maintains is an important tool in criminal, terrorism or intelligence probes. But the program raises questions about whether there should be updated policies protecting civil liberties as new technologies pose intrusive opportunities for government spying.

U.S. law enforcement officials confirmed for the first time the wide-scale use of the aircraft, which the AP traced to at least 13 fake companies, such as FVX Research, KQM Aviation, NBR Aviation and PXW Services. Even basic aspects of the program are withheld from the public in censored versions of official reports from the Justice Department's inspector general.

"The FBI's aviation program is not secret," spokesman Christopher Allen said in a statement. "Specific aircraft and their capabilities are protected for operational security purposes." Allen added that the FBI's planes "are not equipped, designed or used for bulk collection activities or mass surveillance."

But the planes can capture video of unrelated criminal activity on the ground that could be handed over for prosecutions.

Some of the aircraft can also be equipped with technology that can identify thousands of people below through the cellphones they carry, even if they're not making a call or in public. Officials said that practice, which mimics cell towers and gets phones to reveal basic subscriber information, is rare.

Details confirmed by the FBI track closely with published reports since at least 2003 that a government surveillance program might be behind suspicious-looking planes slowly circling neighborhoods. The AP traced at least 50 aircraft back to the FBI, and identified more than 100 flights since late April orbiting both major cities and rural areas.

One of the planes, photographed in flight last week by the AP in northern Virginia, bristled with unusual antennas under its fuselage and a camera on its left side. A federal budget document from 2010 mentioned at least 115 planes, including 90 Cessna aircraft, in the FBI's surveillance fleet.

The FBI also occasionally helps local police with aerial support, such as during the recent disturbance in Baltimore that followed the death of 25-year-old Freddie Gray, who sustained grievous injuries while in police custody. Those types of requests are reviewed by senior FBI officials.

The surveillance flights comply with agency rules, an FBI spokesman said. Those rules, which are heavily redacted in publicly available documents, limit the types of equipment the agency can use, as well as the justifications and duration of the surveillance.

Details about the flights come as the Justice Department seeks to navigate privacy concerns arising from aerial surveillance by unmanned aircrafts, or drones. President Obama has said he welcomes a debate on government surveillance, and has called for more transparency about spying in the wake of disclosures about classified programs.

"These are not your grandparents' surveillance aircraft," said Jay Stanley, a senior policy analyst with the American Civil Liberties Union, calling the flights significant "if the federal government is maintaining a fleet of aircraft whose purpose is to circle over American cities, especially with the technology we know can be attached to those aircraft."

During the past few weeks, the AP tracked planes from the FBI's fleet on more than 100 flights over at least 11 states plus the District of Columbia, most with Cessna 182T Skylane aircraft. These included parts of Houston, Phoenix, Seattle, Chicago, Boston, Minneapolis and Southern California.

Evolving technology can record higher-quality video from long distances, even at night, and can capture certain identifying information from cellphones using a device known as a "cell-site simulator" -- or Stingray, to use one of the product's brand names. These can trick pinpointed cellphones into revealing identification numbers of subscribers, including those not suspected of a crime.

Officials say cellphone surveillance is rare, although the AP found in recent weeks FBI flights orbiting large, enclosed buildings for extended periods where aerial photography would be less effective than electronic signals collection. Those included above Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport and the Mall of America in Bloomington, Minnesota.

After The Washington Post revealed flights by two planes circling over Baltimore in early May, the AP began analyzing detailed flight data and aircraft-ownership registrations that shared similar addresses and flight patterns. That review found some FBI missions circled above at least 40,000 residents during a single flight over Anaheim, California, in late May, according to Census data and records provided by the website FlightRadar24.com.

Most flight patterns occurred in counter-clockwise orbits up to several miles wide and roughly one mile above the ground at slow speeds. A 2003 newsletter from the company FLIR Systems Inc., which makes camera technology such as seen on the planes, described flying slowly in left-handed patterns.

"Aircraft surveillance has become an indispensable intelligence collection and investigative technique which serves as a force multiplier to the ground teams," the FBI said in 2009 when it asked Congress for $5.1 million for the program.

Recently, independent journalists and websites have cited companies traced to post office boxes in Virginia, including one shared with the Justice Department. The AP analyzed similar data since early May, while also drawing upon aircraft registration documents, business records and interviews with U.S. officials to understand the scope of the operations.

The FBI asked the AP not to disclose the names of the fake companies it uncovered, saying that would saddle taxpayers with the expense of creating new cover companies to shield the government's involvement, and could endanger the planes and integrity of the surveillance missions. The AP declined the FBI's request because the companies' names -- as well as common addresses linked to the Justice Department -- are listed on public documents and in government databases.

At least 13 front companies that AP identified being actively used by the FBI are registered to post office boxes in Bristow, Virginia, which is near a regional airport used for private and charter flights. Only one of them appears in state business records.

Included on most aircraft registrations is a mysterious name, Robert Lindley. He is listed as chief executive and has at least three distinct signatures among the companies. Two documents include a signature for Robert Taylor, which is strikingly similar to one of Lindley's three handwriting patterns.

The FBI would not say whether Lindley is a U.S. government employee. The AP unsuccessfully tried to reach Lindley at phone numbers registered to people of the same name in the Washington area since Monday.

Law enforcement officials said Justice Department lawyers approved the decision to create fictitious companies to protect the flights' operational security and that the Federal Aviation Administration was aware of the practice. One of the Lindley-headed companies shares a post office box openly used by the Justice Department.

Such elusive practices have endured for decades. A 1990 report by the then-General Accounting Office noted that, in July 1988, the FBI had moved its "headquarters-operated" aircraft into a company that wasn't publicly linked to the bureau.

The FBI does not generally obtain warrants to record video from its planes of people moving outside in the open, but it also said that under a new policy it has recently begun obtaining court orders to use cell-site simulators. The Obama administration had until recently been directing local authorities through secret agreements not to reveal their own use of the devices, even encouraging prosecutors to drop cases rather than disclose the technology's use in open court.

A Justice Department memo last month also expressly barred its component law enforcement agencies from using unmanned drones "solely for the purpose of monitoring activities protected by the First Amendment" and said they are to be used only in connection with authorized investigations and activities. A department spokeswoman said the policy applied only to unmanned aircraft systems rather than piloted airplanes.

phill4paul
06-02-2015, 07:55 AM
"The FBI's aviation program is not secret," spokesman Christopher Allen said in a statement

Which is why they use front companies registered to P.O. boxes. :rolleyes:

Suzanimal
06-02-2015, 08:03 AM
A Justice Department memo last month also expressly barred its component law enforcement agencies from using unmanned drones "solely for the purpose of monitoring activities protected by the First Amendment" and said they are to be used only in connection with authorized investigations and activities. A department spokeswoman said the policy applied only to unmanned aircraft systems rather than piloted airplanes.

Well that makes it okay then./s :mad:

Soft Totalitarianism?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?450657-Lew-Rockwell-Interviews-Will-Grigg-The-US-Is-a-Soft-Totalitarian-State-(well-worth-the-watch)

ChristianAnarchist
06-02-2015, 08:05 AM
Oh NO! Tell me it ain't so!!!

donnay
06-02-2015, 09:29 AM
Revealed: FBI recording US cities from above using fleet of surveillance aircraft that can identify thousands of people based on their cellphones

By Associated Press and Dailymail.com Reporter
2 June 2015

The FBI is operating a small air force with scores of low-flying planes across the country carrying video and, at times, cell phone surveillance technology — all hidden behind fictitious companies that are fronts for the government, The Associated Press has learned.

The planes' surveillance equipment is generally used without a judge's approval, and the FBI said the flights are used for specific, ongoing investigations.

In a recent 30-day period, the agency flew above more than 30 cities in 11 states across the country, an AP review found.

Aerial surveillance represents a changing frontier for law enforcement, providing what the government maintains is an important tool in criminal, terrorism or intelligence probes.

But the program raises questions about whether there should be updated policies protecting civil liberties as new technologies pose intrusive opportunities for government spying.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/02/article-urn:publicid:ap.org:4b3f220e33b64123a3909c60845da0 45-6YyoCshGDHSK2-603_634x422.jpg
A review of planes traced back to the FBI found that dozens of aircraft had been circling above US cities with surveillance equipment (below plane). Above, a small plane flies near Manassas, Virginia

Continued... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3106977/FBI-mysterious-surveillance-aircraft-US-cities.html)

enhanced_deficit
06-02-2015, 10:25 AM
Drone technology is one area where US has strong capabilities, human abilities behind them is another story.

10/24/2012 @ 1:45PM 53,185 views

White House Watched Benghazi Attacked And Didn't Respond




http://blogs-images.forbes.com/larrybell/files/2012/10/300x192.jpg A burnt building is seen inside the US Embassy compound on September 12, 2012 in Benghazi, Libya, following an overnight attack on the building.

Just one hour after the seven-hour-long terrorist attacks upon the U.S. consulate in Benghazi began, our commander-in-chief, vice president, secretary of defense and their national security team gathered together in the Oval Office listening to phone calls from American defenders desperately under siege and watching real-time video of developments from a drone circling over the site. Yet they sent no military aid that might have intervened in time to save lives.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/10/24/breaking-news-white-house-watched-benghazi-attacked-and-didnt-respond/

Brian4Liberty
06-02-2015, 12:46 PM
Most flight patterns occurred in counter-clockwise orbits up to several miles wide and roughly one mile above the ground at slow speeds.

Very familiar with these a-holes. They fly between 9pm-11pm. It's like having a lawn mower running over your roof every 10 minutes, and they fly that same circle, often for over an hour. It should be a violation of a noise ordinance.

pcosmar
06-02-2015, 12:56 PM
"Aircraft surveillance has become an indispensable intelligence collection and investigative technique which serves as a force multiplier to the ground teams,"

There is that Military war footing again..

in case there was any question in any functioning mind.

tod evans
06-02-2015, 01:00 PM
There is that Military war footing again..

in case there was any question in any functioning mind.

Fighting the good fight no doubt.....:rolleyes:

Bet one of those cyber nickles that 90+% of the information these planes gather is for drug cases......

pcosmar
06-02-2015, 01:02 PM
A burnt building is seen inside the US Embassy compound on September 12, 2012 in Benghazi, Libya,

Was not an Embassy..

Was a Spy Center...

The Embassy was in Tripoli.

donnay
06-02-2015, 01:03 PM
Computer glitch grounds all domestic United Airlines flights (http://rt.com/usa/264345-united-airlines-automation-grounded/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS)

otherone
06-02-2015, 04:57 PM
"Somebody somewhere consented to this, bitches!"

jonhowe
06-02-2015, 05:12 PM
I have seen and photographed many small planes circling northern manhattan and parts of the bronx. I'm sure most are sight seeing, but I often wondered if any were these kinds of planes...


Taken out my kitchen window, through binoculars:

https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10885091_10204041099128088_6950418750402055929_n.j pg?oh=19b18ae742fd2bf70ffbaff479dbf882&oe=55EED67D

tangent4ronpaul
06-02-2015, 10:38 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?464859-War-in-the-Web-2-0-era-how-Air-Forces-deal-%28or-don%92t%29-with-Internet-based-flight-tracking-too

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?464854-Android-IMSI-Catcher-Detector

-t

tangent4ronpaul
06-02-2015, 11:12 PM
FVX Research (5)
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Name_Results.aspx?Nametxt=FVX+RESEARCH&sort_option=1&PageNo=1

N319KS 182T
N687RT 182T
N806TH 182T
N964JR T2068
N984JS 182T

KQM Aviation (6)
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Name_Results.aspx?Nametxt=KQM+AVIATION&sort_option=1&PageNo=1

N223EM 182T
N302MP 182T
N411CP 182T
N562CB 182T
N612BK 206H
N813JH T206H

NBR Aviation (3)
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Name_Results.aspx?Nametxt=NBR+AVIATION&sort_option=1&PageNo=1

N311SB 182T
N514NY 182T
N986DK 182T

PXW Services (5)
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Name_Results.aspx?Nametxt=PXW+SERVICES&sort_option=1&PageNo=1

N143GS 206H
N182EM 182T
N267RH 182T
N520EP 182T
N657TP 182T

Unfortunately the AP only named 4 of the 13 cover companies :( +rep to anyone that can discover a cover company name. hints: run tail numbers from photo's, reddit discussions twitter, comment sections of articles...

Anyone want to play pin the tail on the Cessna? Find a flight tracker and figure out from the tail numbers where each Cessna listed above is based and where they spy on.

http://www.airframes.org/movements.php

EDIT: OH SWEET! They bought the 182T's together! The serial numbers are all very close! Soo...
build a table of serial numbers
search for serial numbers in the gaps
search for name of company that owns it.
If they have 4-5 182T's and 1-2 206H's then that is a cover company!

ALL UR Tail Numbers belongs to us! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

-t

ChristianAnarchist
06-02-2015, 11:31 PM
Revealed: FBI recording US cities from above using fleet of surveillance aircraft that can identify thousands of people based on their cellphones

By Associated Press and Dailymail.com Reporter
2 June 2015

The FBI is operating a small air force with scores of low-flying planes across the country carrying video and, at times, cell phone surveillance technology — all hidden behind fictitious companies that are fronts for the government, The Associated Press has learned.

The planes' surveillance equipment is generally used without a judge's approval, and the FBI said the flights are used for specific, ongoing investigations.

In a recent 30-day period, the agency flew above more than 30 cities in 11 states across the country, an AP review found.

Aerial surveillance represents a changing frontier for law enforcement, providing what the government maintains is an important tool in criminal, terrorism or intelligence probes.

But the program raises questions about whether there should be updated policies protecting civil liberties as new technologies pose intrusive opportunities for government spying.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/02/article-urn:publicid:ap.org:4b3f220e33b64123a3909c60845da0 45-6YyoCshGDHSK2-603_634x422.jpg
A review of planes traced back to the FBI found that dozens of aircraft had been circling above US cities with surveillance equipment (below plane). Above, a small plane flies near Manassas, Virginia

Continued... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3106977/FBI-mysterious-surveillance-aircraft-US-cities.html)

This particular planes registry...

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=539MY

ChristianAnarchist
06-02-2015, 11:35 PM
Revealed: FBI recording US cities from above using fleet of surveillance aircraft that can identify thousands of people based on their cellphones

By Associated Press and Dailymail.com Reporter
2 June 2015

The FBI is operating a small air force with scores of low-flying planes across the country carrying video and, at times, cell phone surveillance technology — all hidden behind fictitious companies that are fronts for the government, The Associated Press has learned.

The planes' surveillance equipment is generally used without a judge's approval, and the FBI said the flights are used for specific, ongoing investigations.

In a recent 30-day period, the agency flew above more than 30 cities in 11 states across the country, an AP review found.

Aerial surveillance represents a changing frontier for law enforcement, providing what the government maintains is an important tool in criminal, terrorism or intelligence probes.

But the program raises questions about whether there should be updated policies protecting civil liberties as new technologies pose intrusive opportunities for government spying.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/02/article-urn:publicid:ap.org:4b3f220e33b64123a3909c60845da0 45-6YyoCshGDHSK2-603_634x422.jpg
A review of planes traced back to the FBI found that dozens of aircraft had been circling above US cities with surveillance equipment (below plane). Above, a small plane flies near Manassas, Virginia

Continued... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3106977/FBI-mysterious-surveillance-aircraft-US-cities.html)

This particular planes registry...

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=539MY

As a side note, any modifications to a plane such as that pod on the bottom and even antennas and extra electronics require STC's (supplimental type certificates) which prove that the modifications don't adversly affect the safety of the aircraft. Somehow I doubt that any such certificates exist for the aircraft in question...

tangent4ronpaul
06-02-2015, 11:47 PM
w00t!

NG RESEARCH (5)
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Name_Results.aspx?Nametxt=NG+RESEARCH&sort_option=1&PageNo=1

N290RM 182T
N527KM 182T
N539MY 182T
N901RM 182T
N921LS T206H

PSL SURVEYS (5)
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Name_Results.aspx?Nametxt=PSL+SURVEYS&sort_option=1&PageNo=1

N326PS 182T
N467TS 182T
N879WM 182T
N916WR 182T
N959JT T206H

OTV LEASING (6)
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Name_Results.aspx?Nametxt=OTV+LEASING+&sort_option=1&PageNo=1

N102BR 182T
N168DK 182T
N514KM T206H
N629ET BELL HELICOPTER TEXTRON CANADA 407
N811AH 182T
N986MT 182T

STRAIGHT FLIGHT NEVADA COMMERCIAL LEASING LLC (8) <== 4 Cessna's but then some unusual ones. They might actually lease aircraft!
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/Name_Results.aspx?Nametxt=STRAIGHT+FLIGHT+NEVADA+C OMMERCIAL+LEASING+LLC+&sort_option=1&PageNo=1

N125PZ PILATUS PC-12/45
N151ZG T206H
N208SN 208B
N23LS STEMME GMBH & CO S6-RT
N305ST POLSKIE ZAKLADY LOTNICZE SPZOO PZL M28 05
N333WC BEECH 300
N6147Y 208B
N6159V 208B

Interesting that each unit generally has 4 - Cessna 182T 's and one Cessna T206H. One of them has a helicopter.


8 down, 5 to go! can anyone find the missing ones? Actually, looking at the serial number spread, I think AP missed some...

-t

tangent4ronpaul
06-02-2015, 11:51 PM
This particular planes registry...

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=539MY

As a side note, any modifications to a plane such as that pod on the bottom and even antennas and extra electronics require STC's (supplimental type certificates) which prove that the modifications don't adversly affect the safety of the aircraft. Somehow I doubt that any such certificates exist for the aircraft in question...

+rep

tangent4ronpaul
06-03-2015, 12:09 AM
Which is why they use front companies registered to P.O. boxes. :rolleyes:

Actually 2 of them (so far) have actual addresses.


I think this is a 182T. I'm not familiar with Cessna tummies, so does anyone know if all those smaller antenna's sticking out of it's belly are normal or is this a signature for a fake cell tower?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/06/02/article-urn:publicid:ap.org:4b3f220e33b64123a3909c60845da0 45-6YyoCshGDHSK2-603_634x422.jpg

-t

tangent4ronpaul
06-03-2015, 05:54 AM
Serial Numbers:

182T's
<==
18282207
18282208
<==
18282215
18282216
18282217
18282218
<==
18282230
<==
18282232
18282233
<==
18282238
18282239
18282240
<==
18282243
<==
18282246
<==
18282350
<==
18282252
18282253
<==
18282260
<==
18282262
<==
18282264
<==


18282266
<==
18282271
<==
18282273
18282274
<==
18282285
<==

<==
18282344
<==
18282351
<==


206H/T206H's
20608325

T20608964
<==
T20608970
<==
T20608976
<==
T20608983
<==

<==
T20609106
<==
T20609108
<==