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randomname
06-02-2015, 05:53 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-2016-republicans-tightly-bunched-clintons-image-erodes/2015/06/01/9e9c26c6-0893-11e5-9e39-0db921c47b93_story.html



AMONG REPUBLICAN AND REPUBLICAN-LEANING INDEPENDENT REGISTERED VOTERS) If the 2016 Republican presidential primary or caucus in your state were being held today, for whom would you vote? Which candidate would you lean toward?

Rand Paul
11%

Scott Walker
11

Jeb Bush
10

Marco Rubio
10

Mike Huckabee
9

Ben Carson
8

Ted Cruz
8

Chris Christie
6

Rick Santorum
4

Donald Trump
4

John Kasich
3

Carly Fiorina
2

Rick Perry
2

Lindsay Graham
1

George Pataki
1

Bobby Jindal
0

Other-vol
0

None of theses-vol
2

Would not vote-vol
1

No opinion
5


The latest Post-ABC poll was conducted by telephone Thursday through Sunday among a random national sample of 1,001 adults, including users of land-line and cellular phones.

randomname
06-02-2015, 06:00 AM
But also high unfavorable. 40% (same as Huckabee, Santorum) vs 38 for cruz and 31 for Walker and Rubio

CaptUSA
06-02-2015, 06:03 AM
AMONG REPUBLICAN AND REPUBLICAN-LEANING INDEPENDENT REGISTERED VOTERS) If the 2016 Republican presidential primary or caucus in your state were being held today, for whom would you vote? Which candidate would you lean toward?

Rand Paul
11%

Scott Walker
11

Jeb Bush
10

Marco Rubio
10

Mike Huckabee
9

Ben Carson
8

Ted Cruz
8

Chris Christie
6

Rick Santorum
4

Donald Trump
4

John Kasich
3

Carly Fiorina
2

Rick Perry
2

Lindsay Graham
1

George Pataki
1

Bobby Jindal
0

Other-vol
0

None of theses-vol
2

Would not vote-vol
1

No opinion
5

randomname
06-02-2015, 06:07 AM
Jeb still in 1st place among Republicans with 13%, Rand and Walker have 11%. Jeb's support drops to 3rd place with 11% once Independents are also counted.

Sanders in 3rd place with Democrats polling at 10%

CaptUSA
06-02-2015, 06:16 AM
But also high unfavorable. 40% (same as Huckabee, Santorum) vs 38 for cruz and 31 for Walker and Rubio

31% net favorable, though. Ties Rubio. Jeb is the only one higher at 32%

shenmue
06-02-2015, 06:18 AM
Looks like its gonna be between Walker and Rand

randomname
06-02-2015, 06:23 AM
"Bush, Paul and Rubio appeal about equally to men and women. Walker's support is greater among men than women."

randomname
06-02-2015, 06:28 AM
Looks like its gonna be between Walker and Rand

More like Rand vs Everyone Else (and as far as the pundits are concerned, "Everyone else vs Everyone Else, and Rand (who can't win)"

georgiaboy
06-02-2015, 06:31 AM
so he got an NSA fili-bump?

freejack
06-02-2015, 06:34 AM
http://i.imgur.com/pVw5Umr.png

William Tell
06-02-2015, 06:54 AM
Yay!

Foreigner
06-02-2015, 06:57 AM
Yes!!!

Btw, the poll is conducted 28-31st May, after his filibuster, but before his Patriot Act victory.

Now the campaign needs to push the narrative: Leading nationally in the polls, polling best against Hillary, and beating her in key swing states. In addition they can mention being tied for 1st in New Hampshire, tied for 2nd in Iowa.

Scott Walker is riding high in Iowa, and ties Rand for this national poll. But who does best against against Hillary nationally - AND in his home state of Wisconsin? Rand Paul.

randomname
06-02-2015, 07:44 AM
31% net favorable, though. Ties Rubio. Jeb is the only one higher at 32%

Right, 31% favorable vs 31% unfavorable just means low recognition.

But no worries, establishment republicans have a big hard on for him, he'll be flavor of the month soon enough

Crashland
06-02-2015, 09:09 AM
I would have liked to see the polls conducted just a couple days later and having Rand out in front by a few points and beating Clinton. Would be slap in the face to the media pundits saying that Rand killed his chances at getting the nomination by going up against the NSA.

libertyplz
06-02-2015, 09:18 AM
Multiple choice (pick 1): Fox News is going to

A.) Ignore the poll entirely

B.) Show the poll but exclude Rand

C.) "Accidentally" put Rand's portrait over a low polling candidate

And mostly for the laughs I'll include D

D.) Actually show the real poll as is and provide adequate coverage

RDM
06-02-2015, 09:23 AM
I believe Walker has been given orders to stay low key due to his corruption problem. http://www.drudge.com/news/186737/scott-walker-corruption-case-lives The GOP are trying to preserve him as their backup if their favorites Bush/Rubio fail. Of course, Rubio has not been fully exposed. http://blog.reidreport.com/2010/10/jeb-bush-marco-rubio-mentor/comment-page-1/

asurfaholic
06-02-2015, 09:56 AM
Coming up on Fox News-

"Scott walker stuns pollsters with strong number 2 showing with Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio in the top tier. Donald trump and his hair also make a respectable showing"

Jeremy
06-02-2015, 10:59 AM
It's amazing how strong Walker has remained in Iowa, NH, and national polls despite not even announcing that he's running yet.

RichardAlpert
06-02-2015, 11:19 AM
we need more light and exposure on Walker; he's staying high b/c people have not scrutinized him yet.. it's still too early to be a front-runner yet, but front runners will start emerging come debate time. I can't wait to see Rand in action at the debates!

JohnGalt23g
06-02-2015, 11:21 AM
That's what I'm talking about!!

JohnGalt23g
06-02-2015, 11:24 AM
It's amazing how strong Walker has remained in Iowa, NH, and national polls despite not even announcing that he's running yet.

Nothing amazing about it at all. He's a prime candidate for POTUS. Three times elected statewide in a state the GOP could really use. Pretty tough executive decision making, that has broken the back of one of the WI-GOP's biggest political enemies. These are all things that enamor him to the Republican primary electorate.

That's OK. We've seen his game. Now, we're getting to see Rand's game. And so far, it looks pretty good...

Warlord
06-02-2015, 11:41 AM
bump

Brian4Liberty
06-02-2015, 11:59 AM
4205

Warlord
06-02-2015, 12:08 PM
thanks @USAB4L

Brian4Liberty
06-02-2015, 12:52 PM
we need more light and exposure on Walker; he's staying high b/c people have not scrutinized him yet.. it's still too early to be a front-runner yet, but front runners will start emerging come debate time. I can't wait to see Rand in action at the debates!

Yeah, most people know that he stood up to the Unions, and has the reputation of being fiscally conservative. That's about it.

What has bumped Walker recently is his stand on jobs for Americans before new immigrants. I suspect that comes from neoconservative advisers such as Bill Kristol. Kristol tried this out with Tom Cotton, and it was very successful. Just fake lip service, but it gets them elected. Carly Fiorina is doing it too, which is so ironic, as she is the stereotype of the elitist crony corporatist who lays-off Americans and replaces them with imported workers.

Todd
06-02-2015, 01:01 PM
Fox News Update.

"Walker leads GOP pack Nationally. Bush,Rubio Tied for Third"

Jeremy
06-02-2015, 01:28 PM
Fox News Update.

"Walker leads GOP pack Nationally. Bush,Rubio Tied for Third"
Joke or serious?

Brian4Liberty
06-02-2015, 02:23 PM
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Brian4Liberty
06-02-2015, 02:29 PM
Fox News Update.

"Walker leads GOP pack Nationally. Bush,Rubio Tied for Third"

Fox News is not mentioning this poll at all, unless it is mentioned briefly with regard to Hillary. The other new CNN poll is the one they are using, and even then, they hate to mention that Rand does best against Hillary.

IndianaPolitico
06-02-2015, 04:11 PM
We need to push this out on social media as much as we can over the next couple of days. This is the narrative that is developing and we need to help it along as much as possible.

JJ2
06-02-2015, 04:19 PM
But I thought the media said he has no chance at the nomination now bc Patriot Act?

:rolleyes:

FreedomProsperityPeace
06-02-2015, 04:27 PM
Rand's name is at the top of the list! :D



And mostly for the laughs I'll include D

D.) Actually show the real poll as is and provide adequate coverageIf they do give the true results, they'll bring on pundit(s) right afterwards to talk smack about him, and why he can't possibly win.

anaconda
06-02-2015, 04:32 PM
But I thought the media said he has no chance at the nomination now bc Patriot Act?

:rolleyes:

Hee Hee - my first thought. Didn't Dana Perrino say early last week that Rand's campaign would only last a couple of more weeks?...

anaconda
06-02-2015, 04:33 PM
Looks like its gonna be between Walker and Rand

I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that Walker fades pretty quickly. They'll need to pump someone else up. I think Kasich may be their ace in the hole.

Todd
06-03-2015, 05:00 AM
Joke or serious?

Jk.....but ya couldn't tell could ya.

enhanced_deficit
06-04-2015, 08:06 PM
Surprise that there was such a poll and media reported it.