After Senate Fails to Extend PATRIOT Act, NSA Begins Shutdown of Bulk Spying Program

[BarryDonegan]

http://truthinmedia.com/after-senate-fails-to-extend-patriot-act-nsa-begins-shutdown-of-bulk-spying-program/

Due to the fact that the US Senate failed to reauthorize the PATRIOT Act last week, the Obama administration has begun to wind down the National Security Agency's bulk collection of Americans' phone records.

[JK/SEA]

http://truthinmedia.com/after-senate-fails-to-extend-patriot-act-nsa-begins-shutdown-of-bulk-spying-program/

Due to the fact that the US Senate failed to reauthorize the PATRIOT Act last week, the Obama administration has begun to wind down the National Security Agency's bulk collection of Americans' phone records.

should take about 10 years.

[phill4paul]

should take about 10 years.

Long enough for a successful re-authorization.

[staerker]

I'd be delusional to believe this. Shadow governments don't answer to us.

[nobody's_hero]

They're in the process of coming up with a more palatable name for it that the American people will accept. It took over a decade for the American people to begin to realize that there was nothing 'patriotic' about the PATRIOT ACT.

So within a year's time, they'll be unveiling the 'Puppies Everyone Always Cuddles Everyday' (PEACE) act and it's sole purpose will be to kidnap political dissidents and send them to gulags. No one will read the 10,000-page bill as to what this new act will do, but hey, how can you oppose the PEACE act? You must not like peace, or puppies.

[UWDude]

oceanfront property in Arizona

[Sola_Fide]

Who believes this?

[acptulsa]

...the Obama administration has begun to wind down...

And I suppose the Obama Administration has to begin to wind down the lights in the Oval Office three days before it wants those lights actually turned off?

The Obama Administration could throw a switch and end it. What the hell are they doing--sewing their spies' lips shut before they lay them off?

[phill4paul]

Can we get a refund on the 1.2 billion spent on the new facility?

[anaconda]

I'd be delusional to believe this. Shadow governments don't answer to us.

+1

[anaconda]

Can we get a refund on the 1.2 billion spent on the new facility?

Let's just cut off their water supply.

[anaconda]

They're in the process of coming up with a more palatable name for it that the American people will accept. It took over a decade for the American people to begin to realize that there was nothing 'patriotic' about the PATRIOT ACT.

So within a year's time, they'll be unveiling the 'Puppies Everyone Always Cuddles Everyday' (PEACE) act and it's sole purpose will be to kidnap political dissidents and send them to gulags. No one will read the 10,000-page bill as to what this new act will do, but hey, how can you oppose the PEACE act? You must not like peace, or puppies.

Hee hee. I'm surprised Saturday Night Live hasn't done a sketch on bills with stupid names that mean the opposite of what they codify.

[anaconda]

http://truthinmedia.com/after-senate-fails-to-extend-patriot-act-nsa-begins-shutdown-of-bulk-spying-program/

Due to the fact that the US Senate failed to reauthorize the PATRIOT Act last week, the Obama administration has begun to wind down the National Security Agency's bulk collection of Americans' phone records.

And......, exactly how do we know this?..

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Link to the auctions for pallets of high end servers, routers, etc... Otherwise, doubt it.

At 25000/ server there should be about 40000 Nice servers hitting the market, if don't see these, then no program shutdown.

[Schifference]

Hillary could make all those records disappear in no time.

[EBounding]

Link to the auctions for pallets of high end servers, routers, etc... Otherwise, doubt it.

At 25000/ server there should be about 40000 Nice servers hitting the market, if don't see these, then no program shutdown.

Maybe they will be donated to local police departments.

[CPUd]

Link to the auctions for pallets of high end servers, routers, etc... Otherwise, doubt it.

At 25000/ server there should be about 40000 Nice servers hitting the market, if don't see these, then no program shutdown.

Those aren't going to be dismantled.

[GunnyFreedom]

Those aren't going to be dismantled.

Even if the program was shut down for real (doubtful) instead of faking it for show then the NSA servers would almost certainly be repurposed for encryption breaking.

[DevilsAdvocate]

Does anyone else realize how significant this is? For our movement, victory was always theoretical. Ron Paul 2008, Ron Paul 2012, we all clung to the vision of a return to freedom. Everybody knew that electing Ron Paul was a long shot, and that we were very unlikely to achieve our vision. So for years people talked about liberty and a free society as some nebulous concept in the distant future. Some academic exercise of a hypothetical future America.

But now, finally we are actually achieving victories!!! Our movement is having a real impact on policy in this country! And this is only the beginning! We are changing real, concrete things in the real world! All of a sudden, our ideas are crawling out of our brains and out into the light of the real world.

[Ronin Truth]

Has anyone noticed the difference yet?

[AuH20]

Even if the program was shut down for real (doubtful) instead of faking it for show then the NSA servers would almost certainly be repurposed for encryption breaking.

Correct. What about Main Core?

[pcosmar]

Those aren't going to be dismantled.

Inside information?

[donnay]

I'd be delusional to believe this. Shadow governments don't answer to us.

We have one who sees!

[CPUd]

Even if the program was shut down for real (doubtful) instead of faking it for show then the NSA servers would almost certainly be repurposed for encryption breaking.

They would stay on the SIGINT side; instead of managing new data, they would replay the data they already have to improve on existing detection rules.

[DamianTV]

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Oooh! Right in the Gulf of NEW Mexico!

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Patriot Act only made the activities subject to public scrutiny, they are gonna spy regardless if they have the (un)Patriot Act to back them or not. Liar is gonna Lie. Cheater is gonna Cheat. Spies are gonna Spy. Dictators are gonna Dictate, and give not a single shit what the Plebs and Mundanes say about it.

[GunnyFreedom]

Of course they are going to keep doing it after it's made illegal. The primary benefit here is that they will no longer be able to initiate ordinary domestic criminal proceedings against people based on this data like they do today, because that would risk exposing a nominally illegal program.