Rand Paul votes against "fast track" legislation

[tsai3904]

Roll call vote:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=114&session=1&vote=00193

[David Sadler]

Roll call vote:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=114&session=1&vote=00193

Are you sure that's correct? Is there an article to go along with that?

Senate votes against fast-tracking TPP (http://rt.com/usa/257981-tpp-senate-domocrats-vote/)
RT

Senate votes against fast-tracking TPP (http://www.peopledemandingaction.org/component/k2/item/349-senate-votes-against-fast-tracking-tpp)
People Demand Action

"In a 52-45 vote on Tuesday afternoon, the Senate opposed moving forward for now on the Trans-Pacific Partnership. A procedural vote required at least 60 “ayes” in order to let the Senate host discussions on whether or not to give the president so-called “fast track” authority on the matter."

See the Roll Call here (http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/114/senate/1/176).

Rand voted 'Yes' to move towards Fast Track in support of the TPP.

[The TPP], "is trade Keynesianism. It's not free trade. It's managed trade ... Internationalism, NAFTA and CAFTA and WTO -- the New World Order is here and everything that promotes the New World Order is done at the expense of liberty and that is why we're in deep trouble ..." "
-- Ron Paul, Fast-Track: Free Trade or Protectionism? (https://youtu.be/mwzXyQpef3E)

[tsai3904]

Those were all procedural votes. The roll call I linked to is the vote on final passage.

[francisco]

I'll admit to being confused.

The Bill cited in OP that Rand voted against tonight was:


Measure Number: H.R. 1314 (Ensuring Tax Exempt Organizations the Right to Appeal Act )
Measure Title: A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide for a right to an administrative appeal relating to adverse determinations of tax-exempt status of certain organizations.

Is that really the TPP???

[pao]

Looks like the OP link is to some vote regarding a tax-exempt law, according to description. Would have like this to be his fast-track vote but...no.

[TaftFan]

Those were all procedural votes. The roll call I linked to is the vote on final passage.

Yeah, the name was wrong because it was a shell bill, which is done often.

[Inkblots]

Well done for Rand.

[TaftFan]

The right decision and also smart politically.

[tsai3904]

Looks like the OP link is to some vote regarding a tax-exempt law, according to description. Would have like this to be his fast-track vote but...no.

The Senate took a House passed bill and substituted it with an amendment containing the fast track language. The Senate does this a lot.

[francisco]

// dupe post

[cero]

Loling at all the angry Ted Cruz fan boys at briertbart for voting for this, can't wait to read the responses over at the neoconrepuplic

[Inkblots]

The Senate took a House passed bill and substituted it with an amendment containing the fast track language. The Senate does this a lot.

It's because certain types of legislation must originate in the House. It's a somewhat amusing design flaw that the Senate can use basically any House bill as a shell to pass their own versions of these bills, though.

[francisco]

Loling at all the angry Ted Cruz fan boys at briertbart for voting for this, can't wait to read the responses over at the neoconrepuplic

Please keep us posted

[pao]

The Senate took a House passed bill and substituted it with an amendment containing the fast track language. The Senate does this a lot.
Little more clear now, thanks for explaining, and good for Rand...will help him later. Unfortunately, many--not having the value of your counsel to explain it to them--will not have fully understood all the voting, and even though he rejected it, will believe he supported fast-tracking. Of course, if a debate issue, I'm sure Rand can clear up the confusion.

[Brett85]

I'm not so sure this was the correct vote. The counter argument is that other countries won't ever enter into an agreement with us if they believe that Congress will amend the trade agreement.

[William Tell]

From Breitbart comments.







http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/users/9831/6914/avatar92.jpg?1403341147 (https://disqus.com/by/disqus_6Wul5oUyGC/)
JoseyWales (https://disqus.com/by/disqus_6Wul5oUyGC/) • 3 hours ago (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/22/breaking-senate-grants-cloture-to-fast-track-trade-authority-bill/#comment-2040609018) Since Ted Cruz voted for this American death knell, I'm afraid I'll have to wash my hands of him.
I feel as though a friend has stabbed me in the back. I worked hard for him for two years,...starting when he was at 2%. I literally feel like crying.
I really thought I knew him...but it looks like he's a traitor.
Edit;
Well, ted...Now You've Made Me Your Enemy. I'm going to get my old crew together to work Even Harder for your Defeat!...you traitorous scumbag! All the time and money I gave you, For This?!...you carpetbaggin' NON-TEXAN!p.o.s.SonuvabitchTwo-FacedBastard!!!~F U!

[garyallen59]

From Breitbart comments.

Let's get in there and let them know Rand voted against this. I just did.

[Sola_Fide]

The divide between Rand and McConnell deepens....

[Brett85]

From Breitbart comments.

Those people are ridiculous. They literally can't support any candidate because if they disagree with a candidate on even a single issue, that candidate loses their support. Kind of like some people within the liberty movement.

[CaptUSA]

The divide between Rand and McConnell deepens....

I think you misunderestimate how the relationship works.

[JohnGalt1225]

Good for Rand!

[Sola_Fide]

I think you misunderestimate how the relationship works.

It's starting to confuse me honestly.

[jeffro97]

I'm confused. He voted against the legislation that had the Fast-Track Authority in it? Or did he not? I'm getting mixed signals.

[Inkblots]

I'm confused. He voted against the legislation that had the Fast-Track Authority in it? Or did he not? I'm getting mixed signals.

He voted against fast-track authority. The rollcall from the vote is linked in the OP.

[GunnyFreedom]

Outstanding!

There will still be Rand-haters hating on Rand for failing to hold his jaw right while pressing 'no' though.

[Brian4Liberty]

There were three key votes. Rand voted against all of them.

Senate Vote 183 - Advances Trade Bill (Cloture Motion Agreed to by a margin of 2 votes):
http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/114/senate/1/183

Senate Vote 192 - Senate Advances Trade Bill (Cloture Motion Agreed to by a margin of 1 votes):
http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/114/senate/1/192

Senate Vote 193 - Expands Trade Negotiating Power (Bill Passed by a margin of 12 votes):
http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/114/senate/1/193

[Brian4Liberty]

Loling at all the angry Ted Cruz fan boys at briertbart for voting for this, can't wait to read the responses over at the neoconrepuplic

Neoconservatives like Krauthammer were pushing for this. Cruz sided with them instead of the Tea Party base.

Related:

Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham vote to give Obama fast-track trade authority
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?475306-Marco-Rubio-Ted-Cruz-and-Lindsey-Graham-vote-to-give-Obama-fast-track-trade-authority

[TaftFan]

A link and pic to share:

http://www.redstate.com/diary/freedomrepublican/2015/05/23/u-s-senator-voted-fast-tracking-obamatrade/

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