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pulp8721
05-18-2015, 08:36 AM
Remember this exchange


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKkkTXSfygo

Well guess what Judicial Watch uncovered this morning:


http://therightscoop.com/new-judicial-watch-memos-reveal-obama-lies-about-benghazi/

If you watch the full video, you notice they mention Hilary's testimony about the weapons in Libya, but FOX never mentions who she had with it.

Kotin
05-18-2015, 09:17 AM
rand needs to pounce on this immediately

Warlord
05-18-2015, 09:45 AM
Rand Paul was right:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/05/breaking-rand-paul-was-right-obama-admin-was-running-guns-to-syria-hillary-lied-under-oath/

Terry1
05-18-2015, 09:53 AM
I can't stand Hillary. She was passing the buck and tossing rank at Rand. Go Rand!

Valli6
05-18-2015, 11:30 AM
US intel knew about weapons going from Benghazi to Syria
from 5/18/15:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oTeMREoeHI

Brian4Liberty
05-18-2015, 12:41 PM
This could be big...

600370216162361346

Valli6
05-18-2015, 01:09 PM
You can view or download the document from Judicial Watch's website.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/

radiofriendly
05-18-2015, 01:21 PM
Yep, this is big!

Senator Rand Paul was right and Hillary Clinton was likely lying when she dismissively denied running guns through Benghazi...

LINK: http://iroots.org/2015/05/18/confirmed-us-was-running-weapons-through-benghazi/

The Northbreather
05-18-2015, 01:35 PM
Nice. Hopefully he goes for the knockout.

Also, on the subject of knockouts, that woman sitting behind Rand.....

asurfaholic
05-18-2015, 01:44 PM
Nice. Hopefully he goes for the knockout.

Also, on the subject of knockouts, that woman sitting behind Rand.....

Now I'm interested. Thanks for the headsup

devil21
05-18-2015, 02:07 PM
It's about time some branch of the media finally jumped on what has been common knowledge for years.

Why is Fox giving this airtime now?

nikcers
05-18-2015, 02:21 PM
It's about time some branch of the media finally jumped on what has been common knowledge for years.

Why is Fox giving this airtime now?

its a trap

01000110
05-18-2015, 02:36 PM
Hillary is a smug, lying criminal. But, I doubt anything comes of this...

randomname
05-18-2015, 02:38 PM
His Twitter account has yet to run with this...

nikcers
05-18-2015, 02:46 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/18/military-intel-predicted-rise-isis-in-2012-detailed-arms-shipments/

In an exchange with Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., who is now a Republican candidate for president, the former secretary of state said, "I will have to take that question for the record. Nobody's ever raised that with me."

r3volution 3.0
05-18-2015, 03:13 PM
BOOM goes the dynamite

...yea, Rand needs to get on this ASAP.

HankRicther12
05-18-2015, 03:16 PM
Yaknow, I am not saying this to be a downer, but more so just in respect, it's like, when I saw those 4 men on the screen, 4 men who are dead, I mean, yeah, we're celebrating Rand being vindicated, but those guys are dead, and maybe I don't always have the biggest amount of sympathy for politicians, govt personnel, but even still, you have to wonder did any of them even know how meaningless they were to the people they thought they were serving? They were just throw away lives.

r3volution 3.0
05-18-2015, 03:18 PM
Yaknow, I am not saying this to be a downer, but more so just in respect, it's like, when I saw those 4 men on the screen, 4 men who are dead, I mean, yeah, we're celebrating Rand being vindicated, but those guys are dead, and maybe I don't always have the biggest amount of sympathy for politicians, govt personnel, but even still, you have to wonder did any of them even know how meaningless they were to the people they thought they were serving? They were just throw away lives.

Revealing what was actually going on in Benghazi will help to prevent a repeat.

garyallen59
05-18-2015, 03:24 PM
I just submitted it as a news tip to The Blaze anyone else who has some free time should do so as well. The tips section is at the very bottom of the page.

Just write something like B4Liberty wrote that will get there attention and provide one of the links in this post. I've had a few things that I've submitted posted and something like this has a pretty good shot.

jct74
05-18-2015, 03:32 PM
It turns out Rand Paul was right about guns being smuggled out of Benghazi to Syria

Kevin Boyd, Rare Contributor
Posted on May 18, 2015 4:00 pm

In January 2013, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) asked then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during a Senate hearing whether the U.S. was involved in the shipping of weapons from Benghazi to Syrian rebels, which Clinton said she had no knowledge of.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg4aL3SUb0w

The U.S. government categorically denied it was shipping weapons to the Syrian rebels, many of whom have ties to al-Qaeda and other Islamist groups.

Liberal websites attacked Paul for asking Sec. Clinton about this. Think Progress accused Paul of “pushing a conspiracy theory.” Rachel Maddow’s blog labeling the senator, “I don’t have any proof Paul.”

The conservative watchdog organization Judicial Watch has obtained documents that might shed some light on why Sen. Paul asked these questions. Fox News reported Monday that the Defense Intelligence Agency knew that weapons were being shipped from Libya to Syria before the Benghazi attacks.

...

read more:
http://rare.us/story/it-turns-out-rand-paul-was-right-about-guns-being-smuggled-out-of-benghazi-to-syria/

r3volution 3.0
05-18-2015, 03:33 PM
I just submitted it as a news tip to The Blaze anyone else who has some free time should do so as well. The tips section is at the very bottom of the page.

Just write something like B4Liberty wrote that will get there attention and provide one of the links in this post. I've had a few things that I've submitted posted and something like this has a pretty good shot.

^^^Drudge too

HankRicther12
05-18-2015, 03:37 PM
Revealing what was actually going on in Benghazi will help to prevent a repeat.

We can only hope, I mean, look at the disaster of Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, yet people are still clamoring for more, my own uncle, a guy who in any other area of life is really smart, looks at everything logical, but when it comes to politics he is a die hard Rep, everything he thinks/believes straight off FOX News, he really thinks Iran is going to blow up the world, all the while believing our military is "gutted" despite the fact that we can strike anywhere on the globe in less than 13hrs and spend more than the next 10 countries put together.

jct74
05-18-2015, 03:39 PM
^^^Drudge too

breitbart.com also has a "Send us a tip" link in the bottom right hand corner of the page.

r3volution 3.0
05-18-2015, 03:39 PM
We can only hope, I mean, look at the disaster of Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, yet people are still clamoring for more, my own uncle, a guy who in any other area of life is really smart, looks at everything logical, but when it comes to politics he is a die hard Rep, everything he thinks/believes straight off FOX News, he really thinks Iran is going to blow up the world, all the while believing our military is "gutted" despite the fact that we can strike anywhere on the globe in less than 13hrs and spend more than the next 10 countries put together.

I hear ya.

Most voters are irrational and fairly impervious to facts, but the more facts we have on our side, the better our odds of persuading them (even if the odds are still low).

ross11988
05-18-2015, 03:52 PM
I told Rand about it today in Philly. Hopefully I planted the seed

Jan2017
05-18-2015, 03:58 PM
Think Progress accused Paul of “pushing a conspiracy theory.”



GOP Senator Pushes Gun-Running Conspiracy Theory During Benghazi Hearing
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/01/23/1485661/rand-paul-conspiracy-theory-libya/

Hillary "I never read the cable and What difference does it make ?" Clinton losing her cool
with Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) at the same Foreign Relations Committee meeting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wVnOu-aFlQ

The CIA annex - which Hillary suggested to Rand she doesn't know what goes on there -
is a couple football fields away from the main consulate compound, and, it also came under attack.

http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/sunblush/annexbenghazi03a_zps140z3zb1.jpg (http://s372.photobucket.com/user/sunblush/media/annexbenghazi03a_zps140z3zb1.jpg.html)


Ya' think the attackers knew where the weapons were stashed?

r3volution 3.0
05-18-2015, 03:59 PM
I told Rand about it today in Philly. Hopefully I planted the seed

Cool, you got to talk to him in person? What'd you talk about other than this?

nikcers
05-18-2015, 04:18 PM
Hillary "I never read the cable and What difference does it make ?" Clinton losing her cool
with Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) at the same Foreign Relations Committee meeting
Ya' think the attackers knew where the weapons were stashed?

I've never seen that Ron Johnson video slice. War mongering Hillary really showed her colors right there. I'm paraphrasing here but she says : ITS MORE IMPORTANT TO GET VENGEANCE AND ATTACK OUR ENEMIES THEN TO FIGURE OUT WHY OUR INTELLIGENCE FAILED
https://youtu.be/4wVnOu-aFlQ?t=347

randomname
05-18-2015, 05:17 PM
This seems to be a non-story, no-one is picking this up other than Fox?

Instead today's Clinton story is her lying about the emails
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/us/politics/clinton-friends-libya-role-blurs-lines-of-politics-and-business.html

r3volution 3.0
05-18-2015, 05:33 PM
^^^Fox is enough, the political advantage is not hurting Hillary so much as helping Rand (with GOP primary voters).

brandon
05-18-2015, 05:48 PM
Wasn't it completely obvious from the beginning? Maybe not the specific details, but we knew from the beginning there was a secret CIA base and prison there. Obviously they were up to some shit that likely motivated the attack.

teaparty
05-18-2015, 06:24 PM
The tea party is to be feared. Do not tread on me.

devil21
05-18-2015, 07:10 PM
Don't stop there! It opens up the big can of worms as to why there was a stand-down order!

My take: calculated decision based on "dead men tell no tales". Hillary and Obama would rather have those involved with the illegal gun running (and money and SARIN GAS used by the "rebels" but blamed on Assad and CIA black site rendition) die than risk exposing their involvement in illegal subversion operations underway then and still underway now in Syria.

THIS REVELATION CAN BRING DOWN THE ENTIRE FALSE ISIS NARRATIVE IF IT GETS TRACTION AND THE DOTS START BEING CONNECTED!

RabbitMan
05-18-2015, 07:18 PM
I just want to make sure everyone was aware that the documents don't implicate that the intelligence community or Us Gov't was shipping arms to rebels, it only says that we observed and kept tabs on arms trade being conducted primarily by the Muslim Brotherhood.

Like everyone else here, I am also incredibly surprised this story has not gained more traction yet. My take is that it's going to take a night for everyone to really get their story straight on this. You don't want to be caught selling crap when it is this big of a deal.

EDIT: Apparently I myself implied something from a news article as well. Ignore what I said about the Muslim Brotherhood.

devil21
05-18-2015, 07:54 PM
I just want to make sure everyone was aware that the documents don't implicate that the intelligence community or Us Gov't was shipping arms to rebels, it only says that we observed and kept tabs on arms trade being conducted primarily by the Muslim Brotherhood.

Im reading the 3 page pdf linked in this thread and there's no mention whatsoever of Muslim Brotherhood.

Here's the direct pdf link:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pgs.-1-3-2-3-from-JW-v-DOD-and-State-14-812-DOD-Release-2015-04-10-final-version1.pdf

It's short and sweet and details what weapons were shipped from Libya (Benghazi) to Syria. Even states they were shipped to smaller ports because of the small amount of cargo between them and presumably would get less attention from Syrian port authorities.

Where do you see anything about Muslim Brotherhood? There's a lot redacted but what is visible makes no claims about them and this intelligence update clearly went to A LOT of government offices (military, intelligence, DHS, Treasury, FBI, among others).

tennman
05-18-2015, 08:16 PM
Drudge it EVERYONE!

hillertexas
05-18-2015, 10:14 PM
Bump

JohnGalt1225
05-18-2015, 10:15 PM
Hopefully Rand's team is working on exploiting this big time.

anaconda
05-18-2015, 11:41 PM
Lawrence O'Donnell owes Rand a huge apology for saying he was talking nutty conspiracy theory in that hearing.

Too bad for Lawrence that it's fully on the record.

francisco
05-19-2015, 01:39 AM
Lawrence O'Donnell owes Rand a huge apology for saying he was talking nutty conspiracy theory in that hearing.

Better pack a lunch while you're waiting for that apology

devil21
05-19-2015, 02:03 AM
State Dept won't release Clinton emails until 2016 and probably not even then. Only your emails are transparent to onlookers, not hers.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/05/19/clinton-email-release/27567615/



The declaration outlines a process in which the collection of emails will be broken up into batches, then reviewed and redacted at a pace of roughly 1,000 emails per week. Those emails will then be looked at by a group of appropriate "subject matter experts" and the FOIA office will then apply whatever changes the experts recommend.

From there, any emails "implicating other agencies' interests" will be sent to those agencies for review.

Finally, the emails will be sent to Office of the Legal Adviser for another review and any conflicting recommendations will "be resolved through discussions."

anaconda
05-19-2015, 02:19 AM
Better pack a lunch while you're waiting for that apology

Too bad for Lawrence that it's fully on the record.

Valli6
05-19-2015, 09:23 AM
Im reading the 3 page pdf linked in this thread and there's no mention whatsoever of Muslim Brotherhood.
Here's the direct pdf link....

The informatiion is actually from 4 separate documents.
Use this link to get to the Judicial Watch Document Archive: http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive
Then, check out each of the other 3 documents released on May 18, 2015.

(Sorry, I originally posted the wrong link which was only one of the documents.)

erowe1
05-19-2015, 09:33 AM
This could be big...

600370216162361346

Do the memos prove that Hillary knew about it?

CPUd
05-19-2015, 12:11 PM
Do the memos prove that Hillary knew about it?

She's going to claim she didn't know, which would normally work, except she's running for President. She will take a hit in the polls over the summer, but she's already up 40 or 50 points on the sitting VP, it's not going to put her out of the race.

Schifference
05-19-2015, 12:29 PM
She's going to claim she didn't know, which would normally work, except she's running for President. She will take a hit in the polls over the summer, but she's already up 40 or 50 points on the sitting VP, it's not going to put her out of the race.

It will be argued that she should have known.

CPUd
05-19-2015, 12:42 PM
It will be argued that she should have known.

Yep, that will probably be the line of attack. She will have to answer why she should be President if she can't stay on top of what her people are doing.

randomname
05-19-2015, 01:21 PM
I still don't understand how this story went absolutely nowhere, and instead the news was all about how she lied about more email stuff instead?

nikcers
05-19-2015, 01:50 PM
I still don't understand how this story went absolutely nowhere, and instead the news was all about how she lied about more email stuff instead?

The mainstream media isn't even reporting, its a tool that the powerful use to manipulate. The only reason they ever have our guy on is because it gets viewers, so they might have our guy on for 15 minutes *or usually murder/controversy/celebrity* and then 45 minutes of selling you on whatever product or *idea think inception* they want you to buy. Sometimes you have commercials in between. That is why I have always liked political comedy, they aren't usually trying to sell anything to you but the comedy and its a lot of times a lot more of an honest discussion of terrible things that we wouldn't otherwise talk about openly.

nikcers
05-19-2015, 02:05 PM
The Worst Day of Hillary Clinton's CampaignIn fact, she’s had a series of bad days since she announced her presidential bid April 12. But Monday was the worst of them.
In a bombshell report, the New York Times reported (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/us/politics/clinton-friends-libya-role-blurs-lines-of-politics-and-business.html?_r=0) that Clinton, as secretary of state, used her private email to share private intelligence reports

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/worst-day-hillary-clintons-campaign_950416.html

A second story about Clinton and Libya broke (http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-defense-state-department-documents-reveal-obama-administration-knew-that-al-qaeda-terrorists-had-planned-benghazi-attack-10-days-in-advance/) the same day, this one casting further doubt on the Obama administration’s narrative about the attacks on U.S. facilities in Benghazi on September 11, 2012, and specifically on claims Clinton made about nature of those attacks and motivations of the attackers. An intelligence report prepared by the Defense Intelligence Agency and sent to Clinton and other senior administration officials on September 12, 2012, just one day after the attacks, concluded that the attack “was planned ten or more days” in advance and was meant to “kill as many Americans as possible.” The report identifies al Qaeda-linked terrorists believed to have been involved in the assault.

teaparty
05-19-2015, 05:23 PM
rand paul was not vindicated. George W. Bush is right and Jeb Bush is wrong.

Reject the Premise That George W. Bush Lied About Iraq. Even Bill Clinton Warned About Saddam's Nuclear Threat!

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/05/18/reject_the_premise_that_bush_lied_about_iraq_even_ bill_clinton_warned_about_saddam_s_nuclear_threat

teaparty
05-19-2015, 05:24 PM
Don't stop there! It opens up the big can of worms as to why there was a stand-down order!

My take: calculated decision based on "dead men tell no tales". Hillary and Obama would rather have those involved with the illegal gun running (and money and SARIN GAS used by the "rebels" but blamed on Assad and CIA black site rendition) die than risk exposing their involvement in illegal subversion operations underway then and still underway now in Syria.

THIS REVELATION CAN BRING DOWN THE ENTIRE FALSE ISIS NARRATIVE IF IT GETS TRACTION AND THE DOTS START BEING CONNECTED!

There is no false ISIS narrative. It would be wise if you stopped sspreading lies about mr Rand Paul

muh_roads
05-19-2015, 05:46 PM
Everything is so fixed that I shouldn't be surprised.

- Why is this being covered now?
- Why is MSNBC not covering this?
- Why is Fox News not covering similar attoricites that happened under Cheney's watch?

I'm fairly certain I know the answer to all of these. Whatever helps out Rand, I guess.

CPUd
05-19-2015, 09:14 PM
I still don't understand how this story went absolutely nowhere, and instead the news was all about how she lied about more email stuff instead?

This one may take some weeks to get going. It's not the kind of story that can be told to any effect in a daily news cycle because it requires too much background. It may be a topic on the Sunday shows, or possibly a magazine article. Press on the daily shows would follow that. If nothing else, it is putting more pressure on the Democrats to widen their field.

devil21
05-19-2015, 10:33 PM
There is no false ISIS narrative. It would be wise if you stopped sspreading lies about mr Rand Paul

I'm sure you'll last a long time around here with your post history. If you truly believe the 'ISIS' propaganda then you're either a troll or uninformed. George Bush was right? Wow, you didn't even warm up to us before posting nonsense.

twomp
05-19-2015, 11:31 PM
The GOP rank and file supposedly hate Obamacare with a passion. Yet, the GOP somehow nominated Mitt Romney (the architect of Obamacare) to be their nominee. That alone should show the power of the media over the sheep. Clinton enjoys that same media luxuries that Romney did. The fact that this hasn't gotten traction should surprise no one. It is Clinton after all.

randomname
05-20-2015, 01:50 AM
At least Zerohedge has a great write-up :)

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-19/if-public-knew-about-obamas-lies-and-cover-ups-mitt-romney-might-be-president-judici

randomname
05-20-2015, 03:09 AM
So why didnt Drudge even bother to publish a link, might it embarass some of his friends?

Valli6
05-20-2015, 09:45 AM
The story is dribbling out a bit, but not a great deal of focus on the weapons transfer yet.


It’s Now Clear The Stunning Negligence That Led Up To Chris Stevens’ Death In Benghazi
Geoffrey Ingersoll
05/19/2015 11:14 PM
Two smoking guns hit the news streams this week: The U.S. indeed had a gun-running program*pipelining*Libyan weapons to Syrian rebels through a port in Benghazi; and at least some “intelligence” on action in Libya passed through*not one, but at least two of Hillary Clinton’s “homebrew” email addresses.

It’s Clinton’s reliance on her civilian email servers for seemingly classified communications (indeed, all Department of State communications), coupled with*the real nature*of the mission in Benghazi, that lay bare the negligence leading up to the attack that took the lives of four Americans, including Ambassador Chris Stevens and two former Navy SEALs.

In the November following the attack, The Wall Street Journal reported that the U.S. mission in Benghazi was “at its heart, a CIA operation.” It turns out the CIA Annex that had its cover blown*during the attack was more than likely the central hub of an international gun running operation.

A source*told*Fox News two weeks after the attack that Stevens was in Benghazi meeting a Turkish diplomat to “negotiate a weapons transfer, in an effort to get SA-7 missiles out of the hands of violent extremists.” One hour after Stevens showed him the door, local Libyan guards “abandoned their posts” and the assault began.
http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/19/its-now-clear-the-stunning-negligence-that-led-up-to-chris-stevens-death-in-benghazi/


SECURITY CONTRACTOR, DIA DOCS DEBUNK MICHAEL MORELL’S BENGHAZI NARRATIVE
by EDWIN MORA
19 May 2015 Washington, D.C.

Former CIA Director Michael Morell’s account of what happened during the September 2012 terror attack against a U.S. consulate in Benghazi has been debunked by a*Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) report, a security contractor, and other sources.

Breitbart News spoke with former Army Ranger Kris “Tanto” Paronto, one of the elite security contractors on the ground hired by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), about Morell’s description of what happened on September 11, 2012 in Benghazi.

Paronto told Breitbart News that former acting CIA Director Michael Morell blatantly lied when describing the Benghazi attack in an article for Politico Magazine.

Specifically,*he*refuted Morell’s allegations that the Benghazi attack was not planned and did*not intend on targeting Americans. Morell also claimed that the attacks may have*inspired by an anti-Islam video, but this was also untrue, according to the sources.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/05/19/sources-military-intel-documents-debunk-michael-morells-benghazi-attack-account/

In a less corrupt America, what's the punishment for lying to a Senate Committee during an investigation? Was H.C. actually under oath?

Brian4Liberty
05-20-2015, 11:30 AM
Do the memos prove that Hillary knew about it?

That would be nice. Not sure.

Hillary has an answer:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_gr1zah14

Brian4Liberty
05-20-2015, 11:41 AM
The story is dribbling out a bit, but not a great deal of focus on the weapons transfer yet.


some “intelligence” on action in Libya passed through*not one, but at least two of Hillary Clinton’s “homebrew” email addresses.

In a less corrupt America, what's the punishment for lying to a Senate Committee during an investigation? Was H.C. actually under oath?

Getting closer to Hillary...

Brian4Liberty
05-20-2015, 11:50 AM
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devil21
06-11-2015, 02:36 AM
bump

Don't forget

CIA 'running arms smuggling team in Benghazi when consulate was attacked' - 2013
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/10218288/CIA-running-arms-smuggling-team-in-Benghazi-when-consulate-was-attacked.html



Up to 35 CIA operatives were working in the city during the attack last September on the US consulate that resulted in the death of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, according to CNN.

The circumstances of the attack are a subject of deep division in the US with some Congressional leaders pressing for a wide-ranging investigation into suspicions that the government has withheld details of its activities in the Libyan city.

The television network said that a CIA team was working in an annex near the consulate on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armouries to Syrian rebels.
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