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orenbus
05-16-2015, 02:28 AM
It was eight years ago last night when this happened, brought the concepts of liberty and intelligent foreign policy to a lot of peoples lives.

Thank you Dr. Paul for everything you've done.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjQYg5RoH2s

Sola_Fide
05-16-2015, 02:36 AM
The lion of liberty.

Henry Rogue
05-16-2015, 05:41 AM
I watched that video countless times and I just realized that Ron Paul never made the statement that Guiliani invited him to retract. The moderator said it. Dr. Paul didn't concern himself with that error, he just continued on schooling the viewers.

liberalnurse
05-16-2015, 08:35 AM
I remember this moment vividly. I was standing (pacing, couldn't sit still) in my living room, and my heart was racing. I was pissed and then Ron just came back and schooled them. I screamed booya mother f'ers, and broke into my happy dance. Thanks so much for posting this and thanks for the memory.:D

Chester Copperpot
05-16-2015, 09:00 AM
I watched that video countless times and I just realized that Ron Paul never made the statement that Guiliani invited him to retract. The moderator said it. Dr. Paul didn't concern himself with that error, he just continued on schooling the viewers.

Im having a hard time understanding exactly what youre saying... can you tell me the timestamp your talking about?

Jan2017
05-16-2015, 04:36 PM
Im having a hard time understanding exactly what youre saying... can you tell me the timestamp your talking about?

I spot it too . . .
at about 2:49 mark Guiliani is saying he never heard anyone say it that way before - that "we invited" the attack -
RP never used those words, he did then clarify he means "blowback" a CIA term/reference.

Jan2017
05-16-2015, 06:35 PM
Then, the after-debate show . . .
This was the first GOP debate in May 2007 (rather poor quality youtube here, but RP so energetic) -
within a month there were "Meet-Up" groups spontaneously popping up as a grassroots organization idea.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkaPt3t5KNk

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Sola_Fide
05-16-2015, 06:59 PM
Then, the after-debate show . . .
This was the first GOP debate in May 2007 (rather poor quality youtube here, but RP so energetic) -
within a month there were "Meet-Up" groups spontaneously popping up as a grassroots organization idea.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkaPt3t5KNk

.


Love Ron's answer on abortion. He's right. Pro-abortion "libertarians" do not really defend a position of liberty.

heavenlyboy34
05-16-2015, 07:22 PM
It was eight years ago last night when this happened, brought the concepts of liberty and intelligent foreign policy to a lot of peoples lives.

Thank you Dr. Paul for everything you've done.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjQYg5RoH2s

Daymn, time flies! Seems like that was just yesterday. That was the debate that made my parents angry at RP, as they were Limbaugh-bots. Taking such an anti-RL sort of position is just evil to them. (they're elderly too, which hinders their judgement)

HVACTech
05-16-2015, 07:59 PM
Daymn, time flies! Seems like that was just yesterday. That was the debate that made my parents angry at RP, as they were Limbaugh-bots. Taking such an anti-RL sort of position is just evil to them. (they're elderly too, which hinders their judgement)

mebbe you should move out of their basement. ;)

Henry Rogue
05-16-2015, 08:17 PM
Im having a hard time understanding exactly what youre saying... can you tell me the timestamp your talking about?



I spot it too . . .
at about 2:49 mark Guiliani is saying he never heard anyone say it that way before - that "we invited" the attack -
RP never used those words, he did then clarify he means "blowback" a CIA term/reference.

Yes, that is it. Just a technicality I guess, noting that Guiliani miss quoted Ron Paul and actually quoted the debate moderator.

LatinsforPaul
05-16-2015, 09:30 PM
In my eyes, the single most important moment in American politcal debate history. Our grandkids will be watching this exchange 50 years from now.

USAFCapt
05-30-2015, 05:18 PM
As the sheeple cheered Rudy's false comments, Ron calmly explained the truth to silence. I will never forget this moment.

RJB
05-30-2015, 05:50 PM
Back when I was an optimist...

Think where we'd be today if he made it into office.

RJB
05-30-2015, 05:56 PM
That debate was held after they started busing in Party hacks. In the first few debates, Ron Paul was the only one who received overwhelming applauses.

Anti Federalist
05-30-2015, 10:08 PM
Take a bow, Ron.

William Tell
05-30-2015, 10:17 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MIj6o.gif

heavenlyboy34
05-30-2015, 10:23 PM
Take a bow, Ron.

The bad thing about being Ron Paul is that you're demonstrably, repeatedly right about srs shit and nary a person gives a flying fuck.

Anti Federalist
05-30-2015, 11:12 PM
The bad thing about being Ron Paul is that you're demonstrably, repeatedly right about srs shit and nary a person gives a flying fuck.

I tried to send you a PM but the box is full...

I have seen anybody crunch "official" number since that 8 times figure.

But off the top of my head, it is at least up to ten times more likely

Chester Copperpot
05-31-2015, 06:41 AM
I spot it too . . .
at about 2:49 mark Guiliani is saying he never heard anyone say it that way before - that "we invited" the attack -
RP never used those words, he did then clarify he means "blowback" a CIA term/reference.

Ok got it.. had a hard time understanding the way the other quote was stated.. but youre right.. I never even noticed it until now... Giuliani is responding to the moderator's assumption, and not to RP's answer...

Chester Copperpot
05-31-2015, 06:41 AM
dupe post

Badger Paul
05-31-2015, 07:20 AM
Eight years ago that moment was supposed to bury us. Now we're on the cusp of watching the Patriot Act die.

Ponder that for a moment.

pcosmar
05-31-2015, 07:55 AM
I remember.

But I remember some different highlights.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mrbZ6cnZKk

I was enjoying some beers and took a later boat. I heard all about it the next day (back on the Island).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA41dQwvO1c

Good times.