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Suzanimal
05-10-2015, 07:42 AM
They hate us for our freedoms...

From LewRockwell...

No Such Thing as Narrowly Targeted or Pinpoint Drone Attacks
Michael S. Rozeff


The effectiveness of U.S. drone attacks in killing their targets vs. missing their targets and killing innocent human beings is analyzed in fine detail in this report. It looks at multiple attempts to kill a given person. For example, there were 3 U.S. drone attacks on the now-dead Mullah Nazir. These killed 24 innocent civilians. There were 3 U.S. drone attacks on the now-dead Mullah Sangeen Zadran; these killed 108 innocent civilians. Five attacks on the still-living Sirrajudin Haqqani have killed 82 civilians.

In multiple attempts to kill 41 men, the number of people killed in “collateral damage” is 1,147. That is, 28 innocent people have died for every attempt by the CIA or other U.S. forces to kill a target by drone.


Contrast the statements made by U.S. officials. Obama (2012) said

“Drones have not caused a huge number of civilian casualties. For the most part, they have been very precise, precision strikes against al Qaeda and their affiliates.”

“There’s this perception that we’re just sending a whole bunch of strikes willy-nilly. This is a targeted, focused effort at people who are on a list of active terrorists who are trying to go in and harm Americans. … It is important for everybody to understand that this thing is kept on a very tight leash.”

Obama is dead wrong. The truth about drones is the opposite.

Drone attacks are not precise, not accurate, and not narrowly targeted against isolated elements of al Qaeda. The targets are often not present during an attack. Whether the targets are or are not present when the bombs are dropped, there are many innocent persons in the vicinity who are slaughtered.

In the Damadola airstrike aimed at kingpin Ayman al-Zawahiri, at least 18 innocent people were killed but not him. There have been 2 attempts on his life by drones, and they have killed 105 people, but not him.

In drone attacks, the U.S. has not found an easy way to wipe out targeted single individuals while avoiding the killing of innocent human beings. Far from it.

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https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/no-such-thing-as-narrowly-targeted-or-pinpoint-drone-attacks/

presence
05-11-2015, 09:02 AM
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/01/14/international/for_PAKISTAN_map.gif


In the Damadola airstrike aimed at kingpin Ayman al-Zawahiri, at least 18 innocent people were killed but not him.





The official number of dead is 18, including eight men, five women and five children, but other reports indicate that as many as 25 people were killed. Fourteen of the dead were said to be from the same family.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damadola_airstrike#cite_note-TGraph-3)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damadola_airstrike


the attack was conducted based on intelligence that





al-Zawahiri was invited to a dinner

asurfaholic
05-11-2015, 09:10 AM
"
Obama is dead wrong. The truth about drones is the opposite.

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No. He is not wrong. He is lying. There is a major difference.

buck000
05-11-2015, 10:09 AM
Great visualization of drone strikes here (http://www.drones.pitchinteractive.com/).

It's all Bush's fault, clearly. ;)

enhanced_deficit
05-11-2015, 10:12 AM
Not to defend ddg on this but most probably he was ordered by puppetbag masters to not tell the truth.







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWKG6ZmgAX4

http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/drone-kids.jpg?w=468&h=468 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=drone%20children&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=TcWtj3VsQDfUEM&tbnid=8pK5pO6kTF7ozM:&ved=&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwillyloman.wordpress.com%2F2012%2 F12%2F22%2Fsandy-hook-shootings%2F&ei=UDjmUYfeIa_e4AOtlIGABQ&bvm=bv.49405654,d.dmg&psig=AFQjCNFlD7qyQNrugbHgbuxAiakwXlaZ-Q&ust=1374128411299069)




Reporter Asks White House if US Airstrike that killed 11 children is ‘Terrorism’ (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?411985-Reporter-Asks-White-House-if-US-Airstrike-that-killed-11-children-is-%E2%80%98Terrorism%E2%80%99&)

While You Were Debating Obama’s ‘Selfie,’ U.S. Drones Killed 13+ Yemen Wedding Guests (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?436307-While-You-Were-Debating-Obama%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98Selfie-%E2%80%99-U-S-Drones-Killed-13-Yemen-Wedding-Guests&)

http://media2.wptv.com//photo/2013/12/10/WPTV_Obama_Selfie_20131210122944_320_240.JPG (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=K_TVYhSOkZt6gM&tbnid=3HUiUSTtSvCROM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wptv.com%2Fdpp%2Fnews%2Flocal _news%2Fwater_cooler%2Fpresident-obama-selfie-president-takes-selfie-with-prime-ministers-at-mandela-service&ei=SrW4UuCZJJOgkQeX3YCoBw&bvm=bv.58187178,d.eW0&psig=AFQjCNFA4swHIfgykm4D_TNC7Wrh1-YjdA&ust=1387923112688653)

SWC Drone King's Victims Diaries I (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?431097-U-S-drone-strikes-killed-Pakistani-grandmother&p=5277619&viewfull=1#post5277619)

Ronin Truth
05-11-2015, 01:48 PM
Maybe we need to develop hellfire personal lasers and hypodermic needles.

Brian4Liberty
05-11-2015, 02:08 PM
Just a little collateral damage. If you want to make a terrorist omelet, you gotta break a lot of innocent eggs. Nothing to see here, move along. Don Lemon will not be reporting live.