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Suzanimal
05-06-2015, 02:14 AM
Most people realize that emails and other digital communications they once considered private can now become part of their permanent record.

But even as they increasingly use apps that understand what they say, most people don’t realize that the words they speak are not so private anymore, either.

Top-secret documents from the archive of former NSA contractor Edward Snowden show the National Security Agency can now automatically recognize the content within phone calls by creating rough transcripts and phonetic representations that can be easily searched and stored.

The documents show NSA analysts celebrating the development of what they called “Google for Voice” nearly a decade ago.

Though perfect transcription of natural conversation apparently remains the Intelligence Community’s “holy grail,” the Snowden documents describe extensive use of keyword searching as well as computer programs designed to analyze and “extract” the content of voice conversations, and even use sophisticated algorithms to flag conversations of interest.

The documents include vivid examples of the use of speech recognition in war zones like Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as in Latin America. But they leave unclear exactly how widely the spy agency uses this ability, particularly in programs that pick up considerable amounts of conversations that include people who live in or are citizens of the United States.

Spying on international telephone calls has always been a staple of NSA surveillance, but the requirement that an actual person do the listening meant it was effectively limited to a tiny percentage of the total traffic. By leveraging advances in automated speech recognition, the NSA has entered the era of bulk listening.

And this has happened with no apparent public oversight, hearings or legislative action. Congress hasn’t shown signs of even knowing that it’s going on.

The USA Freedom Act — the surveillance reform bill that Congress is currently debating — doesn’t address the topic at all. The bill would end an NSA program that does not collect voice content: the government’s bulk collection of domestic calling data, showing who called who and for how long.

Even if becomes law, the bill would leave in place a multitude of mechanisms exposed by Snowden that scoop up vast amounts of innocent people’s text and voice communications in the U.S. and across the globe.

Civil liberty experts contacted by The Intercept said the NSA’s speech-to-text capabilities are a disturbing example of the privacy invasions that are becoming possible as our analog world transitions to a digital one.

“I think people don’t understand that the economics of surveillance have totally changed,” Jennifer Granick, civil liberties director at the Stanford Center for Internet and Society, told The Intercept.

“Once you have this capability, then the question is: How will it be deployed? Can you temporarily cache all American phone calls, transcribe all the phone calls, and do text searching of the content of the calls?” she said. “It may not be what they are doing right now, but they’ll be able to do it.”

And, she asked: “How would we ever know if they change the policy?”

Indeed, NSA officials have been secretive about their ability to convert speech to text, and how widely they use it, leaving open any number of possibilities.

That secrecy is the key, Granick said. “We don’t have any idea how many innocent people are being affected, or how many of those innocent people are also Americans.”

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https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/05/nsa-speech-recognition-snowden-searchable-text/

CPUd
05-06-2015, 03:31 AM
http://i.imgur.com/h2fc38E.jpg

Anti Federalist
05-06-2015, 03:58 AM
And, all across the fruited plain of AmeriKa, up rises the roar of a disinterested yawn.

The Free Hornet
05-07-2015, 12:24 AM
And, all across the fruited plain of AmeriKa, up rises the roar of a disinterested yawn.

Yes, largely. One thing John Stossel got right was that TBTB (to use the term very loosely) will not care more about our privacy than we do ourselves. The willingness to give it all up to Facebook, Google and other web players betrays the nation's/world's apathy.

I hope this changes and what will also have to change is removing "identity" from the data carrier. With phone calls as structured, there is no hope and I don't expect a change. Possibly rival services can lead us to have a data only phone when needed that is unconnected to voice/text conduits.

This is a market ripe for disruption and people may indeed start to care about just giving up all this info for all eternity.

The Free Hornet
05-07-2015, 12:31 AM
To add perspective, I got less than ten inbound mobile calls last month. Customers use email and others use text. I get more calls on the office phone which could skew perspective ... my thinking is that voice is a well that will run dry.

Anti Federalist
05-07-2015, 12:39 AM
To add perspective, I got less than ten inbound mobile calls last month. Customers use email and others use text. I get more calls on the office phone which could skew perspective ... my thinking is that voice is a well that will run dry.

Which, of course, makes the surveillance that much easier.

No transcription needed.

muh_roads
05-07-2015, 08:54 AM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?474189-Fed-Court-rules-cops-can-search-your-phone-without-a-warrant&p=5864511&viewfull=1#post5864511

Cross-posting here...Encryption breaks their listening software and can't organize you into folders.

The Free Hornet
05-07-2015, 10:39 PM
Which, of course, makes the surveillance that much easier.

No transcription needed.

The point is that text and email do not require 'live' internet or voice connections. If messages can queue up - even for a few seconds - then there is a lot more that can be done to protect privacy.

I do believe the market is there for people who can build the right products.

Danke
05-07-2015, 10:45 PM
What do have to hide Suz, I can't imagine much.

Suzanimal
05-07-2015, 10:48 PM
What do have to hide Suz, I can't imagine much.

For starters, I Googled "Banana Porn" last night. Don't do that, btw.

Slave Mentality
05-08-2015, 04:14 AM
For starters, I Googled "Banana Porn" last night. Don't do that, btw.

Put her on the list. Her debauchery hath spread to my own computer. If you thought banana was bad then don't try watermelon.

Occam's Banana
05-08-2015, 05:07 AM
For starters, I Googled "Banana Porn" last night. Don't do that, btw.


Put her on the list. Her debauchery hath spread to my own computer. If you thought banana was bad then don't try watermelon.

Clearly, there needs to be a law ...

GunnyFreedom
05-08-2015, 05:31 AM
For starters, I Googled "Banana Porn" last night. Don't do that, btw.
Lol totally unsurprised; you should know that duckduckgo.com exists for keeping such searches private. You can have all the banana porn you want, and the NSA will never know. :D

Suzanimal
05-08-2015, 07:01 AM
Clearly, there needs to be a law ...

:eek:
You're the one who gave me the idea!


Lol totally unsurprised; you should know that duckduckgo.com exists for keeping such searches private. You can have all the banana porn you want, and the NSA will never know. :D

Seriously, Gunny, I'm a good girl. If it weren't for that wicked Banana putting the thought into my head, I would still be blissfully ignorant of the seedy banana porn underworld. I always imagined they were just an unfortunate looking delicious fruit but now I know what they're really about.

A few tips to avoid being led astray...be very careful not to take big bites, do not hold the banana in your mouth for more than a few seconds, and never, ever, make eye contact when you're eating one - that's how shit gets started.


*bookmarked duckduckgo.com incase something else comes up..

CPUd
05-08-2015, 07:33 AM
http://i.imgur.com/n1m6ecz.jpg

tangent4ronpaul
05-08-2015, 07:51 AM
Put her on the list. Her debauchery hath spread to my own computer. If you thought banana was bad then don't try watermelon.

If she does, she will have no problem giving birth, but may experience significant "issues" getting knocked up...

You must spread some rep around before giving it to Suzanimal again... (later post) Can someone cover me?

But hay, "it's organic..." Reason #6729 to never data a progressive j/k

btw: zucchini is another one to avoid. It's a gateway drug to watermelon. Well, after bananas...

-t

Slave Mentality
05-08-2015, 09:35 AM
Newbz

http://www.haha365.com/uploadfile/2012/0425/20120425101031682.jpg

Anti Federalist
05-08-2015, 11:49 AM
For starters, I Googled "Banana Porn" last night. Don't do that, btw.

Of course, I had to.

Meh.

I've seen lots worse. :D

Suzanimal
05-08-2015, 12:26 PM
Of course, I had to.

Meh.

I've seen lots worse. :D

Watermelon porn?:eek:

VIDEODROME
05-08-2015, 12:50 PM
Watermelon porn?:eek:

Some NSA goon is reading this kind of stuff all day and doing a major facepalm.

Anti Federalist
05-08-2015, 12:54 PM
Watermelon porn?:eek:

Stop!

:eek:

LOOK AWAY!

GunnyFreedom
05-08-2015, 01:35 PM
Stop!

:eek:

LOOK AWAY!

http://reho.st/https://xenophilius.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/watermelon-shaped-like-ass.jpg

http://glenbradley.net/imghost/april2015/rpf/yaoscared2.png