Black Panther Head: Like Founding Fathers, We Are "Willing to Kill" for Black Nation

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Black Panther Head: Like Founding Fathers, We Are Willing to Kill for Black Nation
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http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/04/30/new-black-panther-head-like-founding-fathers-we-are-willing-to-kill-for-black-nation/

WARNING: Profanity/Strong Racial Language


This Week on the New Black Panther Party’s “Black Power Radio,” national chairman Hashim Nzinga said since America has

“declared war on us,”

evidenced by

“military police in the black neighborhood”

[AuH20]

I respect this type of declaration. It's better than becoming a perennial tax tick and crying like a victim every time one commits a self-induced error. IMHO The black panthers are far more honorable & courageous than your average black socialist. They are willing to die for what they believe in and don't expect someone else to do it for them. That takes chutzpah, which is severely lacking these days.

[Sola_Fide]

They want a "black nation" with the same entrenched institutional slavery that they are fighting against now? Talk about insanity...

[AuH20]

They want a "black nation" with the same entrenched institutional slavery that they are fighting against now? Talk about insanity...

Dunno? They even mentioned "saving their babies" which may be indicative that they know what's going on.

[AuH20]

How is black pride a bad thing? Shortsighted white people who reflexively criticize this type of philosophy are almost as bad the cultural Marxists who are trying to tear down the pillars of western civilization. Black people should turn inward and fight to the death for their community because no one else is going to do it for them. If this group ever took hold and tried to carve out a solely black state in America, I would support them in their endeavor. Strong ethnic enclaves would throw a gigantic monkey wrench into the plans of the New World Order.

[Sola_Fide]

How is black pride a bad thing? Shortsighted white people who reflexively criticize this type of philosophy are almost as bad the cultural Marxists who are trying to tear down the pillars of western civilization. Black people should turn inward and fight to the death for their community because no one else is going to do it for them. If this group ever took hold and tried to carve out a solely black state in America, I would support them in their endeavor.

For a Christian, racial pride is wrong because it denies the fundamental division among men, which is not race but salvation. The Bible makes one division among men: saved and unsaved.

[AuH20]

For a Christian, racial pride is wrong because it denies the fundamental division among men, which is not race but salvation. The Bible makes one division among men: saved and unsaved.

How bout we call it community pride in this instance? Their community is basically on life support and this cruel experiment is clearly not working. At least the Black Panthers are willing to identify the cause of the disease, which is more than what I can say for the rest of the imbeciles.

[Sola_Fide]

How bout we call it community pride in this instance? Their community is basically on life support and this cruel experiment is clearly not working. At least the Black Panthers are willing to identify the cause of the disease, which is more than what I can say for the rest of the imbeciles.

Yeah, but just like the white nationalists, they advocate for tyranny.

[AuH20]

Yeah, but just like the white nationalists, they advocate for tyranny.

Do they? I'm not up-to-date on their contemporary platform. The original Black Panthers were very community oriented, ya know with Huey P. Newton & Bobby Seale.

[Sola_Fide]

Do they? I'm not up-to-date on their contemporary platform. The original Black Panthers were very community oriented ya know with Huey P. Newton & Bobby Seale.

Sure. They are communists.

[AuH20]

Sure. They are communists.

Communists? 'Own the means of production' communists? I thought they were largely black nationalists who wanted out.

[Sola_Fide]

Communists? 'Own the means of production' communists? I thought they were largely black nationalists who wanted out.

It depends. There are all shades of tyranny in that movement, as in all racial movements.

[r3volution 3.0]

"Black Panther Head: Like Founding Fathers...[blah socialism blah blah]"

http://d2vo5twcnd9mdi.cloudfront.net/uploads_b945777a-0989-4c4a-b969-c3bb29396208-3221507-2307282-55860_jj_jameson_laughing_meme_1-680x453.jpg

[oyarde]

Black Panthers , yeah , like that is gaining traction , there are enough commies now , it should make no difference what color .LOL

[r3volution 3.0]

Black Panthers , yeah , like that is gaining traction , there are enough commies now , it should make no difference what color .LOL

Yea, the black panthers have kind of lost their "edge," eh?

Back in the 60s they were hip, being aligned with Moscow and whatnot. Now, everybody's a communist. They need some new marketing.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

But do they acknowledge police abuse among all people? Black people aren't the only ones who are abused. Everyone should be united against the police being used as an occupying force. Some people on the forum might say it's all baiting to give the government an excuse to increase police power, but then the only other option is just to take the abuse. I guess conflict is inevitable. I do believe the news doesn't give a good portrayal of the riots, because they've used that same clip of a CVS being looted like 1,000 times now. Where's all the other supposed areas being looted? And why should I care about some gigantic drugstore corporation having one store looted? They don't care, it's all insured. That's like caring if a Walmart burned down. Oh no, a Walmart. What will I do if I can't buy a $1 bag of chips made out of plastic?

And people in the liberty movement need to stop being picky about all the groups. So what if the Black Panthers are communists. Agreeing on the police issue with them doesn't make you a communist. The solution is for the police to harass everybody less, not harass more non-blacks.

[Sola_Fide]

But do they acknowledge police abuse among all people? Black people aren't the only ones who are abused. Everyone should be united against the police being used as an occupying force. Some people on the forum might say it's all baiting to give the government an excuse to increase police power, but then the only other option is just to take the abuse. I guess conflict is inevitable. I do believe the news doesn't give a good portrayal of the riots, because they've used that same clip of a CVS being looted like 1,000 times now. Where's all the other supposed areas being looted? And why should I care about some gigantic drugstore corporation having one store looted? They don't care, it's all insured. That's like caring if a Walmart burned down. Oh no, a Walmart. What will I do if I can't buy a $1 bag of chips made out of plastic?

And people in the liberty movement need to stop being picky about all the groups. So what if the Black Panthers are communists. Agreeing on the police issue with them doesn't make you a communist. The solution is for the police to harass everybody less, not harass more non-blacks.

I agree that people who love freedom find some common grievances with people who are communists. We also find common grievances with people who are conservatives. It doesn't mean that we ever for a second dont separate ourselves from both of them and attempt to educate them.

[alucard13mm]

I gotta say this, and I am not trying to be racist or anything but... What predominantly black country is a 1st world country that is stable, advanced and its citizens well off? You will probably say there is none because of white people and outside interference.

All countries has had been exploited by the white man and has its affairs influenced by outside interference and a lot of countries turn out "okay".

[alucard13mm]

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[LibertyEagle]

I agree that people who love freedom find some common grievances with people who are communists. We also find common grievances with people who are conservatives. It doesn't mean that we ever for a second dont separate ourselves from both of them and attempt to educate them.


Educate us? You? lololol

[Ron Paul in 2008]

Yeah, but just like the white nationalists, they advocate for tyranny.

Do you know the white nationalist leaders endorsed Dr. Ron Paul in 2008? Most white nationalists are pro-small government libertarians.

[Ron Paul in 2008]

I gotta say this, and I am not trying to be racist or anything but... What predominantly black country is a 1st world country that is stable, advanced and its citizens well off? You will probably say there is none because of white people and outside interference.

I think Botswana is alright. They are not super rich but they are relatively stable and are improving. Correct me if I am wrong.

[Ron Paul in 2008]

How is black pride a bad thing? Shortsighted white people who reflexively criticize this type of philosophy are almost as bad the cultural Marxists who are trying to tear down the pillars of western civilization. Black people should turn inward and fight to the death for their community because no one else is going to do it for them. If this group ever took hold and tried to carve out a solely black state in America, I would support them in their endeavor. Strong ethnic enclaves would throw a gigantic monkey wrench into the plans of the New World Order.

Do you support other ethnic/racial states in America in addition to the black state?

We already tried a state for the African Americans in Liberia.

[Working Poor]

I wonder what Larry Pickney has to say about it?

[AuH20]

Do you support other ethnic/racial states in America in addition to the black state?

We already tried a state for the African Americans in Liberia.

Yes. Within the continental U.S. Someone is trying to start a race war and we are too far down the road. I don't want to fight poor blacks. They aren't the enemy. But if they show up at my home, asking for their reparations, well you know what's going to happen.... Redistributionist policies once rationalized can easily transition over to a physical takeover of private resources by the said party formerly receiving such benefits. The government has essentially created millions of Frankenstein monsters.

[AuH20]

But do they acknowledge police abuse among all people? Black people aren't the only ones who are abused. Everyone should be united against the police being used as an occupying force. Some people on the forum might say it's all baiting to give the government an excuse to increase police power, but then the only other option is just to take the abuse. I guess conflict is inevitable. I do believe the news doesn't give a good portrayal of the riots, because they've used that same clip of a CVS being looted like 1,000 times now. Where's all the other supposed areas being looted? And why should I care about some gigantic drugstore corporation having one store looted? They don't care, it's all insured. That's like caring if a Walmart burned down. Oh no, a Walmart. What will I do if I can't buy a $1 bag of chips made out of plastic?

And people in the liberty movement need to stop being picky about all the groups. So what if the Black Panthers are communists. Agreeing on the police issue with them doesn't make you a communist. The solution is for the police to harass everybody less, not harass more non-blacks.

The destruction extended far beyond chain stores. Black owned stores were destroyed. The photos are all over the place.

[phill4paul]

The destruction extended far beyond chain stores. Black owned stores were destroyed. The photos are all over the place.

If guns were allowed in Baltimore the Oath Keepers may have shown up to protect those store owners like they did in Ferguson.

[tod evans]

If guns were allowed

:rolleyes:

[r3volution 3.0]

Do you know the white nationalist leaders endorsed Dr. Ron Paul in 2008? Most white nationalists are pro-small government libertarians.

Really? It seems to me that they're mostly national socialists - which is to say communists who also happen to hate Jews.

[idiom]

For a Christian, racial pride is wrong because it denies the fundamental division among men, which is not race but salvation. The Bible makes one division among men: saved and unsaved.

Have you met Israel?

[r3volution 3.0]

And why should I care about some gigantic drugstore corporation having one store looted? They don't care, it's all insured. That's like caring if a Walmart burned down. Oh no, a Walmart. What will I do if I can't buy a $1 bag of chips made out of plastic?

Yea, fuck them, their property doesn't deserve protection because they're rich and you don't enjoy the products which they offer for sale...

:rolleyes:


And people in the liberty movement need to stop being picky about all the groups. So what if the Black Panthers are communists. Agreeing on the police issue with them doesn't make you a communist.

Any sort of coalition between libertarians and radical leftist groups like the Black Panthers, on the basis of shared criticism of certain police practices, is a terrible strategic mistake on our part. It legitimizes them and helps them advance their entire agenda, not just the part we agree with. It also instantly alienates us from most of America, which, right or left, does not approve of groups like the Black Panthers. They, the anarchist block, and the rest of that ilk should be ignored or ridiculed. They are not allies.

By way of analogy; if some neo-nazi group were talking about gun rights, would you want to see libertarians joining forces with them?

I'm all for forming coalitions with groups that don't agree with us 100% (we don't even agree amongst ourselves 100%), but a line has to be drawn somewhere.

[AuH20]

Any sort of coalition between libertarians and radical leftist groups like the Black Panther's, on the basis of shared criticism of certain police practices, is a terrible strategic mistake on our part. It legitimizes them and helps them advance their entire agenda, not just the part we agree with. It also instantly alienates us from most of America, which, right or left, does not approve of groups like the Black Panther's. They, the anarchist block, and the rest of that ilk should be ignored or ridiculed. They are not allies.

But do these black nationalist groups even like white progs/fabians/globalists? They hate their freaking guts. That's a good starting point. White progressives like Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ and others have always been a far greater constitutional threat than any minority.

[r3volution 3.0]

AU,

Yes, the Black Panthers and the Black Block, for instance, don't like each other, and yes the latter are the greater threat, but that doesn't explain what we would have to gain from cooperating with the former. If you want to fight the progressive left, your natural ally is the conservative right, not the Black Panthers, and you can't have both.

[phill4paul]

Do the Black Panthers stand outside black business owners property defending them during riots or do they only stand out side voter booths in an attempt to intimidate?

[Ronin Truth]

Some folks just might call that racist.

[Ronin Truth]

How about if we give them North Dakota for a Black Nation?

[Pauls' Revere]

I gotta say this, and I am not trying to be racist or anything but... What predominantly black country is a 1st world country that is stable, advanced and its citizens well off? You will probably say there is none because of white people and outside interference.

All countries has had been exploited by the white man and has its affairs influenced by outside interference and a lot of countries turn out "okay".

Britain has invaded 90% of this planet at one time or another.

http://www.notboredanymore.com/2013/07/britain-has-invaded-90-of-worlds.html#axzz3Z5ysM71I

[Ronin Truth]

Or might we interest you in somewhere nearer to your ancestral homeland? Liberia or Nigeria, perhaps? There are also several other black nations for you to choose from. Don't put up with the white man's bigotry, racism and general discriminatory crap anymore.

[Paul Or Nothing II]

They want a "black nation" with the same entrenched institutional slavery that they are fighting against now? Talk about insanity...

Well, as all racists they have a highly simplistic view of things, they obviously believe that the white people are the biggest roadblock in the way of black progress, & pretty much everything will be great once enough white people are killed or enslaved or ousted or whatever it is they wish to do......


How is black pride a bad thing? Shortsighted white people who reflexively criticize this type of philosophy are almost as bad the cultural Marxists who are trying to tear down the pillars of western civilization. Black people should turn inward and fight to the death for their community because no one else is going to do it for them. If this group ever took hold and tried to carve out a solely black state in America, I would support them in their endeavor. Strong ethnic enclaves would throw a gigantic monkey wrench into the plans of the New World Order.

I don't think there's anything wrong with racial separatism so long as it's voluntary & peaceful, & they leave alone those of "their kind" that wish to live in a mixed society but the problem with most racial separatists, be it Black Panthers or any other group, is their extreme eagerness for violence against other races as well as those of "their kind" who disagree with their position, & THAT is extremely bothersome.


I gotta say this, and I am not trying to be racist or anything but... What predominantly black country is a 1st world country that is stable, advanced and its citizens well off? You will probably say there is none because of white people and outside interference.

All countries has had been exploited by the white man and has its affairs influenced by outside interference and a lot of countries turn out "okay".

I don't really agree with the general idea of white guilt. ALL people exploited one another, blacks exploited other blacks, whites exploited other whites & so on for other races, obviously, there was exploitation between races, there were whites who were also sold as slaves to africans & middle-easterners & so on, so this whole idea of white guilt is ridiculous, not to mention it's a form of racism against whites, & I'd hope that at least the people within the liberty movement, who believe in individualism & holding people accountable for their OWN deeds (& not of their ancestors), would take a stance against this kind of systemic racism that goes on against whites.

[Paul Or Nothing II]

Do you know the white nationalist leaders endorsed Dr. Ron Paul in 2008? Most white nationalists are pro-small government libertarians.

A few might be libertarian-leaning but most are blatantly socialists, & worship Hitler's stupid policies from unbacked money to redistribution & what not. I did visit a couple of WN sites at the time, after the news came in that some of them were donating to Ron Paul, & as expected, they were supporting him because of Ron Paul's "racist newsletters" controversy, which made them think he's one of them, some were supporting him because they felt a Ron Paul government wouldn't be as oppressive against them & would allow them to vocalize their racism more freely without restraint on freedom of speech & stuff, some others believed that if Ron Paul ended or at least reduced welfare then that would lead to more non-white groups dependent on welfare starving to death & stuff.


Yes. Within the continental U.S. Someone is trying to start a race war and we are too far down the road. I don't want to fight poor blacks. They aren't the enemy. But if they show up at my home, asking for their reparations, well you know what's going to happen.... Redistributionist policies once rationalized can easily transition over to a physical takeover of private resources by the said party formerly receiving such benefits. The government has essentially created millions of Frankenstein monsters.

I agree, there's been too much "whites owe to non-whites" indoctrination over the years & if there's some sort socioeconomic upheaval then race-wars will be inevitable, so from that point, it's better if those who want their separate state are allowed to secede peacefully. But I think there's too much vested interest, amongst people within the government as well as those outside who have gotten used to freeloading, for a peaceful secession to materialize.



Any sort of coalition between libertarians and radical leftist groups like the Black Panthers, on the basis of shared criticism of certain police practices, is a terrible strategic mistake on our part. It legitimizes them and helps them advance their entire agenda, not just the part we agree with.

I'm all for forming coalitions with groups that don't agree with us 100% (we don't even agree amongst ourselves 100%), but a line has to be drawn somewhere.


AU,

If you want to fight the progressive left, your natural ally is the conservative right, not the Black Panthers, and you can't have both.

Totally agree with this.

[Stratovarious]

Black Panthers chanting 'death to cops' does not remind me of our Founding Fathers.
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[enhanced_deficit]

For a Christian, racial pride is wrong because it denies the fundamental division among men, which is not race but salvation. The Bible makes one division among men: saved and unsaved.

If you have to make an educated guess, roughly what %age of US population you think is christian?

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

The destruction extended far beyond chain stores. Black owned stores were destroyed. The photos are all over the place.

As if black on black crime is anything new?

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Black Panthers chanting 'death to cops' does not remind me of our Founding Fathers.
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Well to them the cops are the occupying British, so I could see the connection. Even if the guy who was killed was guilty of some kind of crime, being Judge Dredd and killing people on the spot is not lawful unless they are threatening the law enforcer's life.

[cindy25]

they have a black nation, Liberia.

[CPUd]

they have a black nation, Liberia.

The history of Liberia is interesting, it was supposed to be set up just like the US, except for the slavery part. Then they sold all their rubber to the tire companies and things turned to shit.

[Stratovarious]

Well to them the cops are the occupying British, so I could see the connection. Even if the guy who was killed was guilty of some kind of crime, being Judge Dredd and killing people on the spot is not lawful unless they are threatening the law enforcer's life.

They still don't get it, Cops don't give a crap what color the victim is, Baltimore made it a race issue, to them that's all it is.
Tyranny is not a Race issue.

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[Ron Paul in 2008]

Really?

Yeah. Don Black, the former leader of the KKK and owner of stormfront was pictured with Ron Paul and his son Derek. There was a thread about it on this forum when it happened because the media used it to attack Dr. Paul as a racist. I also remember that Don Black setup a link on stormfront on Dr. Pauls moneybomb days so stormfronters could donate through stormfront directly to Ron Pauls campaign to impress the media.


It seems to me that they're mostly national socialists - which is to say communists who also happen to hate Jews.

Many are national socialists but many also aren't.


But do these black nationalist groups even like white progs/fabians/globalists? They hate their freaking guts. That's a good starting point. White progressives like Woodrow Wilson, FDR, LBJ and others have always been a far greater constitutional threat than any minority.

Do you know Benjamin Freedman?

I agree with you about white progressives having the most power, but the jews excel as well and have much power for being a minority.


A few might be libertarian-leaning but most are blatantly socialists, & worship Hitler's stupid policies from unbacked money to redistribution & what not. I did visit a couple of WN sites at the time, after the news came in that some of them were donating to Ron Paul, & as expected, they were supporting him because of Ron Paul's "racist newsletters" controversy,

As I remember it, the racist newsletters were revealed by the media well into Pauls campaign near the end. White nationalists like Don Black supported Ron from the beginning because of all of his policies, namely his stance on Israel/nonintervention, abolishing the fed and wanted to put a moratorium on immigration.



which made them think he's one of them, some were supporting him because they felt a Ron Paul government wouldn't be as oppressive against them & would allow them to vocalize their racism more freely without restraint on freedom of speech & stuff, some others believed that if Ron Paul ended or at least reduced welfare then that would lead to more non-white groups dependent on welfare starving to death & stuff.

Of course.



I agree, there's been too much "whites owe to non-whites" indoctrination over the years & if there's some sort socioeconomic upheaval then race-wars will be inevitable, so from that point, it's better if those who want their separate state are allowed to secede peacefully. But I think there's too much vested interest, amongst people within the government as well as those outside who have gotten used to freeloading, for a peaceful secession to materialize.

I don't get blacks wanting to secede and having their own nation. That doesn't seem to be much different from segregation to me.

[Southron]

I don't really have a problem with ethnostates. In the long term I think they end up being more peaceful.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

They still don't get it, Cops don't give a crap what color the victim is, Baltimore made it a race issue, to them that's all it is.
Tyranny is not a Race issue.

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No, a lot of them get it. Some don't but the negative trait doesn't suddenly spread to the entire community. Even CNN showed a black guy speaking about how it's not a black issue, but a police issue.