Andrew Jackson to be replaced on $20 bill?

[AuH20]

Rosa Parks!!!! :eek::mad: If you want to place her image on bus seats all over the nation I wouldn't have a problem with it, but she doesn't merit her image on the currency. No way in hell.

http://www.vdare.com/articles/its-time-for-affirmative-action-currency-to-symbolize-affirmative-action-post-america

https://www.vdare.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Rosa_Parks.jpg



“It’s time”–for a woman on American currency, and why not? America is no longer a nation of heroes, but a collection of victims. Now even the currency of the Affirmative Action Nation is catching up with the reality that today’s hollow empire is nothing the Founding Fathers would recognize.

A campaign to put a woman, any woman, on the $20 bill received new traction when Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) filed legislation for a “citizen’s panel” to recommend a replacement for the current bill’s celebration of President Andrew Jackson.


But neither Jordan nor Sanger made the final cut. The four candidates to replace Jackson on the $20 bill:

Eleanor Roosevelt

Roosevelt, like future President Hillary Clinton, is important chiefly because she married a powerful man and overlooked his infidelities. Her naïve (at best) globalism aside, her domestic policies would today be regarded as retrograde or perhaps even offensive because her old-fashioned liberalism would have little room for critical theory.

Rosa Parks

Rosa Parks, far from being the “tired old lady” of public school mythology, was a Leftist activist who served as the front person for a radical political agenda. The substantive results of this agenda can be seen in the shattered ruins of once-proud American cities like Birmingham, Selma, or Parks’ native Montgomery, where the Southern Poverty Law Center, housed in the notorious “Poverty Palace,” is one of the few thriving businesses. Parks herself moved to Detroit, another destroyed city–where she herself would eventually be robbed and beaten by a black man [Rosa Parks robbed and beaten, New York Times, August 30, 1994].

Wilma Mankiller

Like most people, you are probably wondering, “Who the heck is Wilma Mankiller?” Although she was no doubt really nominated because of her last name, Mankiller was the first female chief of the Cherokee Nation. Like most great minority leaders, she was half-white. Aside from creating some “programs” and being a woman, she was chiefly noted for expelling the black “Cherokee freedmen” from the tribe because they lacked Indian blood. [The Cherokee nation must be free to expel black freedmen, by James MacKay, The Guardian, September 17, 2011]

Harriet Tubman

Harriet Tubman was an escaped slave who guided other blacks north on the Underground Railroad. She was also an enthusiastic conspirator with John Brown, who referred to her as “General Tubman,” assisted in his plot to raid and murder Southern families, and referred to him as a martyr after his execution. [Harriet Tubman, Biography, Accessed April 19, 2015]

[jmdrake]

Rosa Parks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trail of tears orchestrator Andrew Jackson. But frankly American money isn't going to be worth spit soon anyway.

[AuH20]

Rosa Parks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trail of tears orchestrator Andrew Jackson. But frankly American money isn't going to be worth spit soon anyway.

Andrew Jackson broke up the 2nd national bank of the United States. A VERY BIG DEAL despite his Indian abuses. Rosa Parks was a busrider while Jackson was battling with the notorious banking head Nicholas Biddle. We all know the joke about him being on a FRN.

[Xenliad]

Lincoln is hogging the penny and the 5 dollar bill, they should just give him the penny and give the 5 to one of the women that fought in the Revolutionary War.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

What is with the Waiting-for-Godot hero worship in every aspect of life? Replace these people with an animal or even a rock for all I care.

People must have a human figure on these items, so of course, it's a perfect fit for government to provide it. :rolleyes:



https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTkR4NVA7qO2AXErngZvzDTHzq8sl9qr _276Jyi0hzosw354EU9Ug

[fisharmor]

Pictures are superfluous.

https://libertymetals.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/10oz_gold_pamp_suisse_rev.jpg

[juleswin]

Andrew Jackson broke up the 2nd national bank of the United States. A VERY BIG DEAL despite his Indian abuses. Rosa Parks was a busrider while Jackson was battling with the notorious banking head Nicholas Biddle. We all know the joke about him being on a FRN.

I read somewhere that placing Andrew Jackson on the central bank note he fought so hard to destroy was a way the central bankers used to distort his legacy. Do you think if he was alive today he will give his consent for the central bank to use his imagine of the $20 note?

It's one thing to argue that Rosa Parks doesn't deserve to be on the note, its another thing to fight to keep Andrew Jackson's mug on it

[juleswin]

Pictures are superfluous.

https://libertymetals.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/10oz_gold_pamp_suisse_rev.jpg

That is so beautiful not only because its shinny, precious and valuable but also because its devoid of anyone image.

[rpfocus]

LOL? Congratulations on getting baited. This is going nowhere.

[AuH20]

I read somewhere that placing Andrew Jackson on the central bank note he fought so hard to destroy was a way the central bankers used to distort his legacy. Do you think if he was alive today he will give his consent for the central bank to use his imagine of the $20 note?

It's one thing to argue that Rosa Parks doesn't deserve to be on the note, its another thing to fight to keep Andrew Jackson's mug on it

I have a problem with them intentionally screwing around with things. I have no doubts that Andrew Jackson would be appalled to learn that his image is on a FRN, but they want to replace him with one of these 4 women, who pale in comparison to his historical contributions? Really?

[jmdrake]

Andrew Jackson broke up the 2nd national bank of the United States. A VERY BIG DEAL despite his Indian abuses. Rosa Parks was a busrider while Jackson was battling with the notorious banking head Nicholas Biddle. We all know the joke about him being on a FRN.

Yeah. Thanks. He also threatened to hang South Carolinians who wanted to leave the union over high tariffs. He also invaded Florida to stop slaves from running away.

[AuH20]

Yeah. Thanks. He also threatened to hang South Carolinians who wanted to leave the union over high tariffs. He also invaded Florida to stop slaves from running away.

Still more notable than riding on a bus. Even the more despicable details of his career.

[AuH20]

No explanation given why it was switched...


Jackson first appeared on the twenty dollar bill in 1928. It is not clear the reason the bill was switched from Grover Cleveland to Andrew Jackson. According to the U.S. Treasury, "Treasury Department records do not reveal the reason that portraits of these particular statesmen were chosen in preference to those of other persons of equal importance and prominence."[3] The placement of Jackson on the $20 bill may be a historical irony; as president, he vehemently opposed both the National Bank and paper money and made the goal of his administration the destruction of the National Bank.[4][5] In his farewell address to the nation, he cautioned the public about paper money.

[AuH20]

An advocacy site

http://www.womenon20s.org/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wDK9WGGYNA

[jmdrake]

Still more notable than riding on a bus. Even the more despicable details of his career.

Hitler was quite "notable" so I'm not sure what your point is. Stalin was "notable" too.

[acptulsa]

To hell with all of them.

I want to see Calvin Coolidge on some currency. But I want him cast in relief in ten percent nickel and the rest silver.

[heavenlyboy34]

What is with the Waiting-for-Godot hero worship in every aspect of life? Replace these people with an animal or even a rock for all I care.

People must have a human figure on these items, so of course, it's a perfect fit for government to provide it. :rolleyes:



https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTkR4NVA7qO2AXErngZvzDTHzq8sl9qr _276Jyi0hzosw354EU9Ug

The likenesses of dead politicians are icons for the State religion, nothing more.

[AuH20]

Ron Paul needs to be put on the 1000 dollar bill once it is reinstated. heh.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ISMCWKzGhvE/TtPLqRw5G8I/AAAAAAAABfI/GQWzfi-pfjs/s1600/1000+FRN+CLEVELAND.jpg

[jmdrake]

Ron Paul needs to be put on the 1000 dollar bill once it is reinstated. heh.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ISMCWKzGhvE/TtPLqRw5G8I/AAAAAAAABfI/GQWzfi-pfjs/s1600/1000+FRN+CLEVELAND.jpg

I'd rather have him on real money.

http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/303385/11323515/1300682463443/ron+paul+liberty+dolllar.jpg?token=AqDD%2Bp3OMaex4 8Hm3kYqmvbfXqY%3D

[Christian Liberty]

Hitler was quite "notable" so I'm not sure what your point is. Stalin was "notable" too.

/thread

To hell with all of them.

I want to see Calvin Coolidge on some currency. But I want him cast in relief in ten percent nickel and the rest silver.

Yep.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

The likenesses of dead politicians are icons for the State religion, nothing more.



I agree.

If people must have a human picture, then why not somebody cool? (Wasn't there a recent thread about cool?) It could be Joe DiMaggio hitting a home run. Maybe Marilyn Monroe bending over showing some cleavage.

If it's contemporary, then put Led Zeppelin on there. The band on the front and the Hindenburg on the back.

[ChristianAnarchist]

Lincoln is hogging the penny and the 5 dollar bill, they should just give him the penny and give the 5 to one of the women that fought in the Revolutionary War.

I vote for Orsen Wells...

[Anti Federalist]

I've got a bunch of those.

Got them one week before vonNotHaus got raided.

Wonder what they are worth these days???


I'd rather have him on real money.

http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/303385/11323515/1300682463443/ron+paul+liberty+dolllar.jpg?token=AqDD%2Bp3OMaex4 8Hm3kYqmvbfXqY%3D

[Anti Federalist]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vj2e1m7Hlgw/TGmmTJj7N2I/AAAAAAAAp6Y/CMDAXhXKJd8/s1600/12647995549.1.FC..464.GIF

[AuH20]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vj2e1m7Hlgw/TGmmTJj7N2I/AAAAAAAAp6Y/CMDAXhXKJd8/s1600/12647995549.1.FC..464.GIF

A dime? Those were the days.

[Brian4Liberty]

A campaign to put a woman, any woman, on the $20 bill...


Kim Kardashian. And not just her face. It would be perfectly appropriate.

[euphemia]

I don't think the particular portraits are as much of an issue as the reason behind why we use the portraits we use. We are people and we are used to looking at faces. Presidents are some of the most recognizable people in the US, and it is easy to tell Washington from Jefferson (yes, on the $2 which is legal tender), Lincoln, Jackson, Franklin, and Hamilton. Granted Franklin was never President, but he one of the more recognizable of the founders.

A lot of people wouldn't recognize a Rosa Parks lookalike, but you better believe the Lincoln lookalike gets a double take every time.

The way we use portraits on our money is an anti-counterfeiting measure. It doesn't do much, but there you go. The new codachrome $100s were held up in production and were thought to be difficult to counterfeit. Not exactly.

[jmdrake]

I've got a bunch of those.

Got them one week before vonNotHaus got raided.

Wonder what they are worth these days???

The Ron Paul liberty copper dollars are going for between $20 and $40 on ebay right now. So based on that I wouldn't take less than $400 for one of the $20 pieces.

[Ronin Truth]

Then maybe old Andy can finally stop spinning in his grave.

[phill4paul]

My vote? Octopus....

https://kropotkinoid.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/octopus.png

[Todd]

Rosa Parks!!!! :eek::mad: If you want to place her image on bus seats all over the nation I wouldn't have a problem with it, but she doesn't merit her image on the currency. No way in hell.


Neither do some of the folks you currently occupy images on our currency.

[Zippyjuan]

LOL? Congratulations on getting baited. This is going nowhere.

It is just a petition- not a serious consideration at this time.

[sparebulb]

I have a problem with them intentionally screwing around with things. I have no doubts that Andrew Jackson would be appalled to learn that his image is on a FRN, but they want to replace him with one of these 4 women, who pale in comparison to his historical contributions? Really?

Your white privilege shows through in the words that you use.

/s

[AuH20]

Your white privilege shows through in the words that you use.

/s

I'm trying to think of an American female historical figure who's stature is on the level of Andrew Jackson, but I cannot. Maybe it will be Hillary after she's done? :)

[mad cow]

What is with the Waiting-for-Godot hero worship in every aspect of life? Replace these people with an animal or even a rock for all I care.


I have a couple of 50 trillion dollar bills with a pile of rocks on the front and animals on the back.

They should save Eleanor Roosevelt for the 500 trillion dollar bill.

[dannno]

I imagine there is probably a lot of distorted history about Andrew Jackson - I doubt he was perfect, but his involvement in certain historical events could have easily been manipulated to either a small or large extent considering he took down the US central bank.

[Ronin Truth]

I have a couple of 50 trillion dollar bills with a pile of rocks on the front and animals on the back.

They should save Eleanor Roosevelt for the 500 trillion dollar bill.

Those rocks and animals are all Zimbabwe heroes. :D

[AuH20]

I imagine there is probably a lot of distorted history about Andrew Jackson - I doubt he was perfect, but his involvement in certain historical events could have easily been manipulated to either a small or large extent considering he took down the US central bank.

http://rasica.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/president-andrew-jackson.jpg

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

A pic should be an accurate representation of an item.




https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQKapqT5mG4AIr7cbnPClC9LcHUuVO0R bBcnspWxASZLgbLPxyYrA

[BV2]

If they can find an other than genocidal maniac to put on the 20 thats fine by me. Ironic putting AJ on a fed res note anyways. Spit.

[specsaregood]

I say we put the portrait position up for auction on all the bills and the proceeds go to paying the national debt. Let the billionaires and millionaires compete to have their photo or whomever they want on the bills. Hell, don't even limit it to americans.

[mrsat_98]

My vote? Octopus....

https://kropotkinoid.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/octopus.png

In before somebody.. f... to late


I'm trying to think of an American female historical figure who's stature is on the level of Andrew Jackson, but I cannot. Maybe it will be Hillary after she's done? :)

that would make for a good shite stain.

[Anti Federalist]

The Ron Paul liberty copper dollars are going for between $20 and $40 on ebay right now. So based on that I wouldn't take less than $400 for one of the $20 pieces.

Yeah, I have not seen any of the 2008 issue Liberty Mint silver or gold RP Liberty coins anywhere.

[Bastiat's The Law]

Smacks of political correctness.

[devil21]

It is just a petition- not a serious consideration at this time.

They'll wait for the official switch from FRNs to US Notes before changing bill portraits. Give it a couple years.

[Stratovarious]

I vote for Ralph Kramden (Jackie Gleason)...not just a bus rider , but a DRIVER!!! ...and a good one.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZRjh6L3e0qQ/UeVfIa4islI/AAAAAAAAHEk/FDbv7UugbGM/s1600/Alice_Ralph.jpg

[Suzanimal]

I'd like to see Alfred E Newman on a bill.

http://i.imgur.com/uqFyBB7.png

[TheCount]

Totally unsurprised that AuH20 is linking to the news pages of a white supremacist / white nationalist organization.

My favorite part of the article:

Like most great minority leaders, she was half-white.

[otherone]

I don't think the particular portraits are as much of an issue as the reason behind why we use the portraits we use. We are people and we are used to looking at faces.

This goes here:

https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=JN.L02ZAtXrF4OIzMIcQEPAnQ&pid=15.1&P=0

[Marenco]

We might as well go with the times.... :D

https://s3.amazonaws.com/lardbiscuit/pix/idiotcash.jpg

[KCIndy]

I'd like to see Alfred E Newman on a bill.

http://i.imgur.com/uqFyBB7.png


Now THAT'S something I would vote for in a heartbeat! I LOVE IT! :D :D

[KCIndy]

Hitler was quite "notable" so I'm not sure what your point is. Stalin was "notable" too.


<<you must spread some reputation around before giving it to jmdrake again>>

[RJB]

I'm all for putting a woman back on our money like we did in the old days before we became an empire.

Bring back Lady Liberty!

http://peacedollars.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/Peace-Dollar.jpg

[Henry Rogue]

I'd like to see Alfred E Newman on a bill.

http://i.imgur.com/uqFyBB7.png

Dang, must spread reputation around.

[rpfocus]

We might as well go with the times.... :D

https://s3.amazonaws.com/lardbiscuit/pix/idiotcash.jpg

Haha Camacho for President! He's baaaaaack: http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/president-camacho-returns-mike-judges-idiocracy-shorts.html

[RJB]

Another fine and forgotten lady from our past.

http://cointrackers.com/img/Walking-Liberty-Half-Dollar-1.png

[RJB]

http://www.aucmcoins.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/36-6878-1799-S1-obv.jpg

[Henry Rogue]

Heard talk about putting a woman's Image on a frn, that got me to thinking, who would be replaced. I speculated it would be Andrew Jackson. That lead me to wondering how Jackson got on a rfn to begin with. An Ironic slap to the face by the fed?

[RJB]

We left behind liberty and are headed to this:
http://www.quickonlinetips.com/archives/wp-content/uploads/trillion-dollars-front.jpg

https://robertsworldmoney.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/child.jpg

[Henry Rogue]

We left behind liberty and are headed to this:
http://www.quickonlinetips.com/archives/wp-content/uploads/trillion-dollars-front.jpg

https://robertsworldmoney.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/child.jpg
With the nasty stuff they put in the ink used on rfns, it wouldn't even be safe to burn for heat.

[alucard13mm]

Why does it matter who's face is it when I stuff it down a stripper's bikini strings???

Feminazi's should use their time more wisely than to worry about putting a woman's face on US currency. Millions of women in dozens of countries are physically abused, mass raped, treated as third class citizen, treated as property and have less rights than women in the west...

We should perhaps form feminists combat units to go fight for their sister's rights in saudi arabia or fight sex trafficking.

[acptulsa]

Why does it matter who's face is it when I stuff it down a stripper's bikini strings???

Ask her. She's the one straining her eyes at that very moment trying to figure just that out.

[LibForestPaul]

Ron Paul needs to be put on the 1000 dollar bill once it is reinstated. heh.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ISMCWKzGhvE/TtPLqRw5G8I/AAAAAAAABfI/GQWzfi-pfjs/s1600/1000+FRN+CLEVELAND.jpg

That note, is honest as well. Read carefully.

[acptulsa]

That note, is honest as well. Read carefully.

I did. Seems to me it says nothing at all. The bearer already has a thousand "dollars".

I want to see Sandra Day O'Connor on some currency someday. But I hope she doesn't read that and think I'm in a hurry to see that. But of all the American females I can think of, she deserves it the most.

How about Clara Bow? What could symbolize the modern age better than to honor the first international movie cutie? Or better still, Josephine Baker, the most effective ambassador we ever sent to France? Now that would be a twenty dollar bill worth looking at!

[Pauls' Revere]

Rosa Parks is a TOOL! The REAL bus activist is Claudette Clovin.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101719889

Most people know about Parks and the Montgomery, Ala., bus boycott that began in 1955, but few know that there were a number of women who refused to give up their seats on the same bus system. Most of the women were quietly fined, and no one heard much more.

Colvin was the first to really challenge the law.

[CPUd]

http://i.imgur.com/ZP8qz8r.jpg

[mad cow]

That note, is honest as well. Read carefully.

I guess it is if you demanded 1,000 silver dollars for it at the time.

It has a date of 1934,Roosevelt seized the gold in 1933,so you weren't getting 20 dollar gold pieces in exchange for it.


The Emergency Banking Act of 1933 removed the gold obligation and authorized the Treasury to satisfy these redemption demands with current notes of equal face value (effectively making change).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Note

[Dianne]

Oh, I thought you were going to say Al Sharpton.

[GunnyFreedom]

Truth in advertising would have Brittney Spears on the $20 right now.

[otherone]

https://moodyeyeview.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/titanic.jpg

[Noob]

Instead of replacing Jackson, just make a new $25 dollar bill.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Totally unsurprised that AuH20 is linking to the news pages of a white supremacist / white nationalist organization.

My favorite part of the article:


Organization? Looks more like a dime a dozen blog.

Your Southern Poverty Law Center that you enthusiastically support is an organization. Not sure if they are geared more toward hate or now seen as a joke. Guess it was no joke when that guy shot up the Family Research Council and cited SPLC as a source of information for their "hate" groups.

Seems to me that shooting people is more hateful than a blog.

And for the record--I don't think much of Family Research Council. Right down there with SPLC. Both are sort of joke in my book.

[AuH20]

Totally unsurprised that AuH20 is linking to the news pages of a white supremacist / white nationalist organization.

My favorite part of the article:

Peter Brimelow already responded to this spurious accusation.

http://www.vdare.com/articles/is-vdarecom-white-nationalist


If the same paranoid logic were applied to the opposition to Defend Colorado Now, we would learn that it includes Hispanic pressure groups like La Raza, which are essentially the creation of the Ford Foundation, founded by the notorious anti-Semite Henry Ford, and assorted Marxist revolutionary wannabes. (Except that this would be true.)

At least Flynn acknowledged that John Tanton, in many ways the Godfather of the immigration reform movement, really is a liberal environmentalist who worries about population pressures. I came to the immigration issue from the right—as a journalist writing for Forbes, National Review, even (say it ain`t so!) the immigration-crazed Wall Street Journal—and it was a revelation to me to learn that there are environmentalists who are not just refugee socialists looking for a new excuse to push people around, but who genuinely care about trees.

I like to think that some of my new liberal friends learned that some conservatives are sincere patriots—not just hoofed and horned apologists for Big Business.

But Flynn does go seriously wrong in his mischaracterization of the immigration reform webzine I edit, VDARE.COM, as "white nationalist." This is important, not because we have actually have any links to Defend Colorado Now—a great cause, but one which I`m sorry to say we`ve never really written much about—but because it`s an example of the way in which immigration enthusiasts want to shut down a debate that they know they cannot win.

VDARE.COM is named after Virginia Dare, the first English child—not "white child," as Flynn evocatively puts it—born in the New World, in 1587. (The first white child was probably a Viking, Snorri Porfinnsson. It doesn`t have the same ring.) At a time when Americans were not made to feel guilty about their heritage, every school kid knew who she was. Franklin D. Roosevelt participated in the 350th anniversary celebrations of her birth.

VDARE.COM flowed out of a best-selling book I wrote back in 1995 (!), Alien Nation: Common Sense About America`s Immigration Disaster (It was the subject of a long interview in that well-known white nationalist rag, the Rocky Mountain News—Immigrant`s Book Helping Reshape Immigration Debate, June 18, 1995). Like the immigration reform movement in general, it is a coalition, agreed only on the need for immigration reduction. We have published writers of all races, and most political tendencies—including self-identified "progressives." Much of VDARE.COM is devoted to technical analyses of immigration`s economic impact—for example Edwin S. Rubenstein`s demonstration that jobs in the post-2002 recovery have gone disproportionately to immigrants, while black unemployment has actually risen. (See The Employment Bus: Immigrants Drive, Blacks Sit in the Back, June 22, 2006) We are certainly politically incorrect—but the merest glance would show that we are not "white nationalist."

OK?

Now I will boldly go etc. We also publish on VDARE.COM a few writers, for example Jared Taylor, whom I would regard as “white nationalist,“ in the sense that they aim to defend the interests of American whites. They are not white supremacists. They do not advocate violence. They are rational and civil. They brush their teeth. But they unashamedly work for their people—exactly as La Raza works for Latinos and the Anti-Defamation League works for Jews.

Get used to it. As immigration policy drives whites into a minority, this type of interest-group "white nationalism" will inexorably increase.

You read it first on VDARE.COM—and if you don`t like it, let`s have an immigration moratorium now.

[GunnyFreedom]

Instead of replacing Jackson, just make a new $25 dollar bill.

Make it a $42 and put Chester Arthur and Gerald Ford on it.

[cindy25]

first take FDR off the dime

[Weston White]

Based upon all that America has come to stand for at present, here are the two finalists:


http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/mix949.com/files/2011/07/RENO.jpg

http://crooksandliars.com/files/primary_image/15/03/o-janet-napolitano-facebook.jpg

[willwash]

Rosa Parks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trail of tears orchestrator Andrew Jackson. But frankly American money isn't going to be worth spit soon anyway.

I used to feel that way about Jackson, until I realized the evil nature of debt and international banking, and he is the only president to successfully eliminate both. That alone makes him top five in my book, though he's taken down a peg or two by the Trail of Tears, ignoring the Supreme Court, and his stronghanded tactics against nullification.

But banking is so incredibly, indescribably evil, that he still wins a top five position for his accomplishments there. Jefferson is still no. 1.

[willwash]

Truth in advertising would have Brittney Spears on the $20 right now.

Or LeBron

[willwash]

I did. Seems to me it says nothing at all. The bearer already has a thousand "dollars".

I want to see Sandra Day O'Connor on some currency someday. But I hope she doesn't read that and think I'm in a hurry to see that. But of all the American females I can think of, she deserves it the most.

How about Clara Bow? What could symbolize the modern age better than to honor the first international movie cutie? Or better still, Josephine Baker, the most effective ambassador we ever sent to France? Now that would be a twenty dollar bill worth looking at!

The original definition of a "dollar" was a fixed weight in gold. The bearer has a piece of paper that the government promises to redeem for said lawful money, ie gold.

[acptulsa]

The original definition of a "dollar" was a fixed weight in gold. The bearer has a piece of paper that the government promises to redeem for said lawful money, ie gold.

And silver and gold certificates said so. But as I noted, this early FRN doesn't say that. It basically is mealy-mouthed, and says nothing specific at all.

[TheCount]

Peter Brimelow already responded to this spurious accusation.

What is your alternative definition for advocating a government that prohibits immigration and marriage to non-whites?

[PierzStyx]

Andrew Jackson broke up the 2nd national bank of the United States. A VERY BIG DEAL despite his Indian abuses. Rosa Parks was a busrider while Jackson was battling with the notorious banking head Nicholas Biddle. We all know the joke about him being on a FRN.

You don't brush genocide/mass murder, land theft, and violating constiutional powers by ignoring the Supreme Court's ruling in favor of the Natives. No matter how much he hated central banks. The man was a tyrant.

[TheCount]

You don't brush genocide/mass murder, land theft, and violating constiutional powers by ignoring the Supreme Court's ruling in favor of the Natives. No matter how much he hated central banks.

If you check out H20's other posts, you'll understand why he has very little concern for how the natives were treated.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

I used to feel that way about Jackson, until I realized the evil nature of debt and international banking, and he is the only president to successfully eliminate both. That alone makes him top five in my book, though he's taken down a peg or two by the Trail of Tears, ignoring the Supreme Court, and his stronghanded tactics against nullification.

But banking is so incredibly, indescribably evil, that he still wins a top five position for his accomplishments there. Jefferson is still no. 1.

If you're so concerned about banking because of the threat it poses to a people, how can the LITERAL destruction of a people & their property only be considered minor dents to Jackson's legacy?

What kind of accomplishment is it to make a top 5 list of all-time greatest presidents anyways? That's like saying John Wayne Gacy is better than Ted Bundy because Gacy didn't murder as many people.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Totally unsurprised that AuH20 is linking to the news pages of a white supremacist / white nationalist organization.

My favorite part of the article:


What is your alternative definition for advocating a government that prohibits immigration and marriage to non-whites?


If you check out H20's other posts, you'll understand why he has very little concern for how the natives were treated.



Ha ha; check out one of RPF's extreme progressives trying to fly under the radar here and sow division in a thread. Neg rep.

[rp08orbust]

I wonder if a $20 FRN today would even buy a ticket on Rosa's old bus route.

[DevilsAdvocate]

Do we really need pictures of our Dear Leaders on bank notes?

[PierzStyx]

If you check out H20's other posts, you'll understand why he has very little concern for how the natives were treated.

I find way too many on here that seemingly don't understand Andrew Jackson,loving him for fighting central banks and ignoring the fact that he did what Alex JOnes always seems to be saying Barack Obama is just days away from doing.

[AuH20]

If you check out H20's other posts, you'll understand why he has very little concern for how the natives were treated.

Huh? Which Native Americans are we referring to? The 'Five Civilized Tribes' that the Jackson Administration violated? Or are we referring to the likes of the Comanche who were brutal, sadistic killers? There are two faces to the Native American story in this country.

[AuH20]

What is your alternative definition for advocating a government that prohibits immigration and marriage to non-whites?

I call that freedom of association as opposed to forced integration. Those are not features of a white nationalist platform.

[acptulsa]

Or are we referring to the likes of the Comanche who were brutal, sadistic killers?

As if you wouldn't be if overwhelming forces were threatening to take you and your land over for no particular reason. And drive your prime food source nearly to extinction.

[AuH20]

As if you wouldn't be if overwhelming forces were threatening to take you and your land over for no particular reason. And drive your prime food source nearly to extinction.

The baby killing and gang rape could have been shelved. That was just unnecessary.

[AuH20]

FYI. I'm generally sympathetic to the plight of the Native Americans, but this a great account on how 'loco' the Comanche were.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2396760/How-Comanche-Indians-butchered-babies-roasted-enemies-alive.html


But the Comanche tribe’s furious response knew no bounds. When the Texans suggested they swap the Comanche prisoners for their captives, the Indians tortured every one of those captives to death instead.

‘One by one, the children and young women were pegged out naked beside the camp fire,’ according to a contemporary account. ‘They were skinned, sliced, and horribly mutilated, and finally burned alive by vengeful women determined to wring the last shriek and convulsion from their agonised bodies. Matilda Lockhart’s six-year-old sister was among these unfortunates who died screaming under the high plains moon.’

Not only were the Comanche specialists in torture, they were also the most ferocious and successful warriors — indeed, they become known as ‘Lords of the Plains’.
They were as imperialist and genocidal as the white settlers who eventually vanquished them.




The first Indians to take up the horse, they had an aptitude for horsemanship akin to that of Genghis Khan’s Mongols. Combined with their remarkable ferocity, this enabled them to dominate more territory than any other Indian tribe: what the Spanish called Comancheria spread over at least 250,000 miles.

They terrorized Mexico and brought the expansion of Spanish colonization of America to a halt. They stole horses to ride and cattle to sell, often in return for firearms.

Other livestock they slaughtered along with babies and the elderly (older women were usually raped before being killed), leaving what one Mexican called ‘a thousand deserts’. When their warriors were killed they felt honour-bound to exact a revenge that involved torture and death.

Settlers in Texas were utterly terrified of the Comanche, who would travel almost a thousand miles to slaughter a single white family.




So intimidating was Comanche cruelty, almost all raids by Indians were blamed on them. Texans, Mexicans and other Indians living in the region all developed a particular dread of the full moon — still known as a ‘Comanche Moon’ in Texas — because that was when the Comanche came for cattle, horses and captives.

They were infamous for their inventive tortures, and women were usually in charge of the torture process.

The Comanche roasted captive American and Mexican soldiers to death over open fires. Others were castrated and scalped while alive. The most agonising Comanche tortures included burying captives up to the chin and cutting off their eyelids so their eyes were seared by the burning sun before they starved to death.

Contemporary accounts also describe them staking out male captives spread-eagled and naked over a red-ant bed. Sometimes this was done after excising the victim’s private parts, putting them in his mouth and then sewing his lips together.

[acptulsa]

The baby killing and gang rape could have been shelved. That was just unnecessary.

The Quakers and other yankee pilgrims thought so. But the cotton pickin' racists down south weren't any more above teaching the Five Civilized Tribes all about it than they were above doing it to their own property.

The only problem western settlers had was the reputations of southern rednecks got out west ahead of the pioneers, and by then the Comanches and Apaches knew for certain that they had nothing to lose.


FYI. I'm generally sympathetic to the plight of the Native Americans, but this a great account on how 'loco' the Comanche were.

A mighty selective view of history. Do I really need to further hijack this thread with tales of the madcap adventures of the fucking Spanish Inquisition?

Put a sock in this goofy shtuff before you get your foot so deep in your mouth even a surgeon can't extract it.

[AuH20]

The Quakers and other yankee pilgrims thought so. But the cotton pickin' racists down south weren't any more above teaching the Five Civilized Tribes all about it than they were above doing it to their own property.

The only problem western settlers had was the reputations of southern rednecks got out west ahead of the pioneers, and by then the Comanches and Apaches knew for certain that they had nothing to lose.

It's interesting that you bring up the Comanche and Apache, when the Comanche almost successfully exterminated the Apache.

[acptulsa]

It's interesting that you bring up the Comanche and Apache, when the Comanche almost successfully exterminated the Apache.

That's one tribe's worth of women and children on the Comanche's scorecard, and some odd two dozen on the caucasian scorecard. And you're playing holier-than-whom?!

[AuH20]

A mighty selective view of history. Do I really need to further hijack this thread with tales of the madcap adventures of the fucking Spanish Inquisition?

Put a sock in this goofy shtuff before you get your foot so deep in your mouth even a surgeon can't extract it.

Human beings are generally prone to evil behavior, even select Indian tribes. I think that's the lesson here.

[AuH20]

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[acptulsa]

Human beings are generally prone to evil behavior, even select Indian tribes.

Including evil behavior like singling out a select little group for extra condemnation in order to distract attention from the fact that the worst crimes against humanity in all of history belong squarely on one's own tribal doorstep?

[AuH20]

That's one tribe's worth of women and children on the Comanche's scorecard, and some odd two dozen on the caucasian scorecard. And you're playing holier-than-whom?!

I am not excusing any rapacious and dishonest behavior on the part of the white man. It's well documented and an unwashable stain on the creation of this country. I think we have a bad habit of solely ascribing certain negative characteristics to the White power structure while overlooking the sins of the more extreme tribes of the Native American population. That's all.

[acptulsa]

I am not excusing any rapacious and dishonest behavior on the part of the white man. It's well documented and an unwashable stain on the creation of this country. I think we have a bad habit of just ascribing certain negative characteristics to the White power structure while overlooking the sins of the more extreme tribes of the Native American population. That's all.

Hitler was born within spitting distance of the Caucasus Mountains. And Stalin was born on one of them.

Let he whose ancestors are without sin toss those stones. Or better still, lay off the statist collectivism and let us get back to having an adult conversation about individuals.

And do it quick before you get stupid enough to let someone the same color as you talk you into moving into a FEMA camp for your own good. Because the Comanches are no threat to you. But there are plenty of people just as lily-white as you who are a threat. A major threat.

[AuH20]

Hitler was born within spitting distance of the Caucasus Mountains. And Stalin was born on one of them.

Let he whose ancestors are without sin toss those stones. Or better still, lay off the statist collectivism and let us get back to having an adult conversation about individuals.

No collectivism. Individuals typically form groups and defer to dynamic or more powerful individuals for better or worse. I don't think the Native American population is any different. Take the Aztecs for example that partook in human sacrifice quite frequently. There is that familiar shade of Hitler and Stalin found in Tenochtitlán. Individuals were killed for the 'glory' of the empire.

[acptulsa]

I suppose I should be nice and let you have the last word, since you don't seem capable of ceasing to embarrass yourself unless and until you get it...

[AuH20]

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[AuH20]

I suppose I should be nice and let you have the last word, since you don't seem capable of ceasing to embarrass yourself unless and until you get it...

How did this morph into a battle of you against me? I stated my case. I never defended the heinous crimes of the colonial powers, quite the contrary. But this myth that the white man exclusively brought terror and malice to the New World is largely fable. It always resided here under different incarnations (just not as grand and meticulously organized as what had developed on the European continent). Granted, I would much rather live in the Iroquois Nation of yesteryear as opposed to being a serf to the federal government today. That's a no brainer.

[Suzanimal]

New 10 dollar bill to feature a woman


A woman will replace Alexander Hamilton on the $10 bill — the first woman to be on a American paper currency in more than 100 years, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew announced Thursday.

Lew said he would announce which woman before the end of the year, after the administration seeks national input this summer.

"America’s currency is a way for our nation to make a statement about who we are and what we stand for," Lew said. "Our paper bills — and the images of great American leaders and symbols they depict — have long been a way for us to honor our past and express our values."

Martha Washington and Pocahontas were each featured on paper currency more than 100 years ago, Treasury officials said.

The announcement comes after much speculation in recent weeks that a woman would be on a new paper note.

Lew said Obama administration officials are seeking advice nationwide — including people who "aren't comfortable using a hashtag as well as people who are comfortable using a hashtag."

"We are going to be open to many ideas as we go forward consistent with theme of democracy," Lew said. "Our thinking is to select a woman who has played a major role in our history who represents the theme of democracy."

The bills with Hamilton in it, which were first introduced in 1929, will continue to be used for as long as those bill last, Lew said.

Lew said that there is "no other bill in development."

House Financial Services Committee chairman Jeb Hensarling (R-Texas) said he welcomed the announcement.

“As chairman of the committee with jurisdiction over the production of our currency, I look forward to hearing more from the Treasury Secretary about this announcement," Hensarling said in a statement.

Hensarling then attacked the administration's spending policies.

"By running up the national debt to more than $18 trillion, the administration’s spending policies put these dollars at risk of being worth less no matter whose face is on them," Hensarling said.

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/245364-a-woman-will-replace-hamilton-on-the-10-bill

[acptulsa]

What? Instead if ditching the guy who hated central banks, they're going to ditch the guy who loved them?

Weird. Did we do that?

[devil21]

Lemme guess, the new money will not say Federal Reserve Note on it anymore.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

the only one I could honestly think of is Susan B. Anthony. Remember not all people on the currency were presidents. There's Ben!
I really hope there's a legit reason to put some woman's face on the currency other than "lol feminism"

[alucard13mm]

the only one I could honestly think of is Susan B. Anthony. Remember not all people on the currency were presidents. There's Ben!
I really hope there's a legit reason to put some woman's face on the currency other than "lol feminism"

its gonna empower feminazis... like they accomplished something.

[roho76]

I hope it's Margret Sanger. Our currency is a joke so I don't mind. Not sad to see Hamilton go. I'm glad it wasn't Jefferson, Jackson or Franklin.

[Zippyjuan]

the only one I could honestly think of is Susan B. Anthony. Remember not all people on the currency were presidents. There's Ben!
I really hope there's a legit reason to put some woman's face on the currency other than "lol feminism"

She already had her shot at being on money.

http://www.gwennseemel.com/images/blog08/Susan.jpg

Betsy Ross? Dolly Madison? Eleanor Roosevelt? It can't by law be any living person. Newly designed notes due out by 2020.

[Ronin Truth]

WAAAAAY, past time to end that FRN abomination to Old Hickory.

Put Wilson on it.

[r3volution 3.0]

Replace Roosevelt on the dime with Harding.

Replace Hamilton on the $10 with Jefferson.

Replace Lincoln on the penny and the $5 with Robert E. Lee.

O, and Grant on the $50, let's not forget Grant - replace him with a bottle of whiskey.

...alternately, if this is intended as a dishonor, nix Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, and Franklin and substitute Wilson, LBJ, Nixon, and J.P. Morgan.

[Pericles]

New 10 dollar bill to feature a woman


http://thehill.com/policy/finance/245364-a-woman-will-replace-hamilton-on-the-10-bill

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/06/10%20dollar%20bill_0.jpg

[Uriel999]

I used to feel that way about Jackson, until I realized the evil nature of debt and international banking, and he is the only president to successfully eliminate both. That alone makes him top five in my book, though he's taken down a peg or two by the Trail of Tears, ignoring the Supreme Court, and his stronghanded tactics against nullification.

But banking is so incredibly, indescribably evil, that he still wins a top five position for his accomplishments there. Jefferson is still no. 1.

Number 1 was clearly William Henry Harrison.


http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/06/10%20dollar%20bill_0.jpg

I'm not sure whether to pos or neg rep you....

[Henry Rogue]

Do we really need pictures of our Dear Leaders on bank notes?

I vote for Clowns. Bozo, Clarabell, even Krusty.

[Occam's Banana]

h/t EPJ: http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2015/06/put-krugman-and-bernanke-on-us-fiat.html

Bernanke on the $10 Bill Controversy
https://mises.org/blog/bernanke-10-bill-controversy
Mark Thornton (22 June 2015)

Ben Bernanke reveals more about his own views when he comments on the $10 bill controversy to replace Alexander Hamilton. Bernanke attacked Secretary Jack Lew' (http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/ben-bernanke/posts/2015/06/22-jack-lew-ten-dollar-bill)s idea to replace Hamilton with a women:


I must admit I was appalled to hear of Treasury Secretary Jack Lew's decision (http://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/jl0082.aspx) last week to demote Alexander Hamilton from his featured position on the ten dollar bill. Hamilton, the first Secretary of the Treasury, would qualify as among the greatest of our founders for his contributions to achieving American independence and creating the Constitution alone. In addition to those accomplishments, however, Hamilton was without doubt the best and most foresighted economic policymaker in U.S. history.

Hamilton should get some credit for the Constitution and for being a policy maker. But the Constitution was an inferior form of government compared to the Articles of Confederation and his economic policy making was all geared toward bigger government and monetary nationalism, the two problems that are arguably the greatest threats to the American people, their prosperity, and their liberty. Bernanke then goes on to present a convoluted history of National Banks and bank panics during the 19th century. However, he does provide a suggestion for resolving the $10 bill controversy. Leave good old Hamilton on the $10 and take President Andrew Jackson off the $20 bill and replace him with a women. He notes:


Replace Andrew Jackson, a man of many unattractive qualities and a poor president, on the twenty dollar bill. Given his views on central banking, Jackson would probably be fine with having his image dropped from a Federal Reserve note.

This is probably the only idea of Ben Bernanke (removing the anti-central banking Jackson from the $20 bill) that I can agree with. And while you are at it take the image of Thomas Jefferson off the $2 bill and replace him with Paul Krugman or Ben Bernanke.

[Suzanimal]

$10 bill change rankles descendant of Alexander Hamilton

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Doug Hamilton is just fine with plans to put a woman's portrait on U.S. paper money, but he'd prefer that the Treasury Department leave the $10 bill alone — particularly the prominent visage of his great-great-great-great-great-grandfather, Alexander Hamilton.

The 10-spot is a source of family pride in Hamilton's house in suburban Columbus, a dignified symbol of the historical importance of his ancestor, whose picture has been on it since 1929. So naturally, Hamilton started making some noise when he heard about the proposal that has Alexander Hamilton sharing the note with a deserving woman yet to be chosen.

The 64-year-old salesman for IBM has joined a growing backlash against what he calls the "diminishing" of Hamilton, who as the country's first treasury secretary created the modern U.S. financial system, with a national debt, bank and mint, and with the dollar as currency.

"He's the father of paper money," says Doug Hamilton, who has a son and grandson carrying the name of their famous ancestor. (His daughter, Elizabeth, was named for Alexander Hamilton's wife.)

He's urging people to sign a petition on the White House "We The People" website, and this weekend he'll be preaching the Hamiltonian gospel:confused: at a series of annual events in New York and New Jersey planned around the anniversary of Alexander Hamilton's death on July 12, 1804, a day after his duel with Aaron Burr.

The trip also will include a preview of the hip-hop musical "Hamilton," based on Ron Chernow's biography of Alexander Hamilton, opening on Broadway.

Outcry over Hamilton's possible demotion has been somewhat lost in the wave of excitement over the inclusion of a woman's portrait on paper currency. The Treasury Department says the $10 bill was chosen because it's up next for a redesign to improve anti-counterfeiting features. The new bill would go into circulation in 2020.

Treasury Secretary Jacob Lew said this week that he's sticking with the plan, despite critics arguing that a woman should be featured on the $20 bill in place of Andrew Jackson, whom many historians view less favorably because of his treatment of Native Americans and his ownership of slaves.

"Right now is the time to call that out," says Barbara Howard, founder of the group Women on 20s, which advocates replacing Jackson with a deserving woman from history. Doug Hamilton has joined forces with Howard's group and others trying to change Lew's mind.

Meanwhile, former Federal Reserve chairman Ben Bernanke wrote in a blog that he was "appalled" at the idea of adding a woman to the $10 bill at Hamilton's expense. The New York Times wrote in a Fourth of July editorial that it's a much better idea to bump Jackson, an undistinguished president who, ironically, hated the idea of paper currency.

"The announcement has really befuddled people," says Rand Scholet, president of a group called The Alexander Hamilton Awareness Society, which planned some of the events this weekend expected to draw hundreds.

According to the Treasury Department, putting Hamilton's portrait on the $10 bill was included in the changes made by the government "to restore faith in economic power of the United States and currency" after the economic crash of 1929 and into the Great Depression.

Hamilton, a penniless orphan from the Caribbean, rose through the ranks in the Revolutionary War to become George Washington's right-hand man. He was an early and tireless advocate for a federal system that bound the struggling young nation together. As one author of the Federalist Papers, he composed some of the most famous and influential essays in American history, arguing for a U.S. Constitution.

Doug Hamilton has known since he was a kid that he was related to the founding father. His grandmother first told him, and he confirmed it later through genealogical studies. But all that aside, he says his ancestor's towering achievements have earned him a permanent place on the bill, and the picture should remain untouched.

"We think," Doug Hamilton says, "he is somebody the younger generation should look up to."

http://news.yahoo.com/alexander-hamiltons-descendant-rankled-10-bill-change-045030882--finance.html

[Zippyjuan]

The $10 bill may have been selected since it is the least used one (after the $2 bill).

[Suzanimal]

The $10 bill may have been selected since it is the least used one (after the $2 bill).

From the above article...


The Treasury Department says the $10 bill was chosen because it's up next for a redesign to improve anti-counterfeiting features.

[William Tell]

The $10 bill may have been selected since it is the least used one (after the $2 bill).

I use 5s less often than 10s.

[kahless]

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2015/06/10%20dollar%20bill_0.jpg

I could see the Obama admin opening up some sort of online voting at whitehouse.gov with the woman receiving the most votes ending up on a special edition bill. American society is so completely f'd up it is not all that far fetched that would Catlyn receive the most votes.

[Peace&Freedom]

I say, add 2-4 more NEW currency bills---say, a $75, $200, $500, and $2,000 bill, and add these new candidates, plus others, into a pool from which the public votes by national referendum, into being placed on those bills. First hold a major poll that offers all the currently suggested names, plus an 'other' option, so the choices really will reflect the people. Then have the public vote for the top placing candidates at the 2016 election.

This would send shudders down the PC crowd's spines, since the clear intent was to shove mainly liberal women of color down the throats of the public with these changes. Their goal is to replace the traditional (white male) figures---that is, anybody that provided us a social memory of the past, and thus a is gateway to the truth that is independent of their approval. Imagine their shock if the winners of the poll or election came back Ronald Reagan, Ron Paul, or Robert E. Lee? On the cultural left side, I can only see Martin Luther King or similar icon placing high in such a poll or election.

[Zippyjuan]

I use 5s less often than 10s.

Ratio of notes currently in circulation:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/11/-100-bills-make-up-80-of-all-us-currency-but-why/265518/


"Imply that the average American's bulging wallet holds 91 pieces of U.S. paper currency, consisting of: 31 one dollar bills; 7 fives; 5 tens; 21 twenties; 4 fifties and 23 one hundred dollar bills. Few of us will recognize ourselves as 'average' citizens. Clearly, these amounts of currency are not normally necessary for those of us simply wishing to make payments when neither credit/debit cards nor checks are accepted or convenient to use."

Most $100 bills are actually outside the country.


The short answer is that a lot of money is spending a lot of time outside the United States.

The cognoscenti look at the share of $100 bills as something of a proxy for foreign demand for US currency. An overwhelming majority of the $100 bills come from the Federal Reserve Cash Office in New York City, which handles the bulk of foreign shipments of US currency. A typical shipment is a pallet containing 640,000 such bills, or $64 million, according to a recent Fed paper.

Somewhat surprisingly, it's unclear exactly how much American money is floating around outside the US. Estimates run the gamut. In the 1990s, one high-profile estimate pegged the number at as much as 70%. But more recent estimates hover around 25%-30%.

And while there are plenty of reasons folks outside the US might want to hold dollars, the thinking is that most people are not using these $100 bills to buy milk and bananas. No, most economists seem to believe $100 bills are most often used as stores of value--almost something like mini-Treasury bills that don't pay any interest. This is especially so in developing countries, where problems with unstable currencies and inflation often mean the purchasing power of local currency gradually--or not so gradually--erodes over time.

Black markets like them too. And it is profitable for the government.


Cynics might point out that on the other side of that ethical quandry is fact that printing and selling money abroad is a remarkably profitable little business for the US government. Yes, that's right. Like all governments, Uncle Sam earns a profit, known as seigniorage, on the printing of money. And that profit cuts--slightly--the amount the US has to borrow from the public to keep the lights on. Some economists describe foreign holdings of US money as effectively an interest-free loan to the US.


In the 1980s, the US earned a net profit of around $14 billion a year (pdf, p. 35) on seigniorage; by 1999 it was up to $25 billion; by 2010, it was back down to $20 billion. Oh, well--it was never going to be enough to solve the US deficit anyway.

[cindy25]

currency should be issued by private banks, as in hong Kong, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. Robert E Lee could on banknotes circulating in the south, Martin L King could be on banknotes circulating in bank neighborhoods, etc

[anaconda]

Kim Kardashian.

Yours in before I could make this suggestion.

[anaconda]

...

[anaconda]

https://moodyeyeview.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/titanic.jpg

So the elites do allow Obama to perform some actual tasks as President!

[anaconda]

...

[anaconda]

Why not simply change it up several times per month and have a variety of images, just like they do with postage stamps?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSESYYOs0igv3YYKUblOVcQQ6gqCojhg HAUE3rBAsgfjybhqHFQHwhttps://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJ898QKE9U6gZt2pi3771TFkw6Wcqgu BJTnyckLBeSXhc_rNFL8whttps://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTa1j7fcjMuuTId4BGBpyCIvt7sgTJcu zVRTdOhY03EH9ROfcYH-Q

[GunnyFreedom]

Why not simply change it up several times per month and have a variety of images, just like they do with postage stamps?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSESYYOs0igv3YYKUblOVcQQ6gqCojhg HAUE3rBAsgfjybhqHFQHwhttps://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRJ898QKE9U6gZt2pi3771TFkw6Wcqgu BJTnyckLBeSXhc_rNFL8whttps://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTa1j7fcjMuuTId4BGBpyCIvt7sgTJcu zVRTdOhY03EH9ROfcYH-Q

That would require one hell of a lot of vending machine reprogramming.

[DevilsAdvocate]

So we're going to be racially guilt tripped every time we buy something? We'll just keep bringing up the civil rights era over and over like we're eternally stuck in the 1960's? Rosa Parks was a media icon, nothing more. How does what she did even compare to founding the country or writing the constitution or leading the nation through a war?

She was brave for what she did, but in all fairness, she was basically a media prop to stir up emotion and affect change. Sort of like Michael Brown, you take this isolated incident, blow it all out of proportion, stir up a bunch of emotions, and try your best to use it for political gain. She was basically just a prop for the press. If she hadn't done what she did, they just would have found another prop.

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You shouldn't let the culture warriors win. What you have is a bunch of really insidious, creepy people that have wormed their way into the structure of the establishment, and are using their position to subtly influence the society in a way that suits their ideology. These people infect the universities, Hollywood, the government...all of the establishment organizations.

Think Lois Lerner at the IRS using her position to manipulate the 2012 election by unfairly punishing conservative organizations. Think Hollywood relentlessly pushing gay themes. To the point where a gay character was practically mandatory for every show and movie; where a movie was almost guaranteed an Oscar if it had a strong gay message. All of a sudden in a very brief period of time, American ideas on gay rights went through a massive shift, especially in the younger population.

These people are very well educated and connected with each other. They all work together to support "the cause". It's all about manipulation. That's what's going on here, and that's why they want Rosa Parks on the $20.

[DFF]

He who controls the past controls the future.

With this move to replace Hamilton, white history is literally being deleted by the anti-white left.

And this won't be the end. By any stretch of the imagination.

[TheTexan]

I think Abraham Lincoln should be on all the coins and all the dollars, to just really reinforce how awesome of a President he was

[CPUd]

http://i.imgur.com/nO1gmpA.jpg

[Zippyjuan]

So we're going to be racially guilt tripped every time we buy something? We'll just keep bringing up the civil rights era over and over like we're eternally stuck in the 1960's? Rosa Parks was a media icon, nothing more. How does what she did even compare to founding the country or writing the constitution or leading the nation through a war?

She was brave for what she did, but in all fairness, she was basically a media prop to stir up emotion and affect change. Sort of like Michael Brown, you take this isolated incident, blow it all out of proportion, stir up a bunch of emotions, and try your best to use it for political gain. She was basically just a prop for the press. If she hadn't done what she did, they just would have found another prop.

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You shouldn't let the culture warriors win. What you have is a bunch of really insidious, creepy people that have wormed their way into the structure of the establishment, and are using their position to subtly influence the society in a way that suits their ideology. These people infect the universities, Hollywood, the government...all of the establishment organizations.

Think Lois Lerner at the IRS using her position to manipulate the 2012 election by unfairly punishing conservative organizations. Think Hollywood relentlessly pushing gay themes. To the point where a gay character was practically mandatory for every show and movie; where a movie was almost guaranteed an Oscar if it had a strong gay message. All of a sudden in a very brief period of time, American ideas on gay rights went through a massive shift, especially in the younger population.

These people are very well educated and connected with each other. They all work together to support "the cause". It's all about manipulation. That's what's going on here, and that's why they want Rosa Parks on the $20.

I doubt it will be Rosa Parks but who knows? I would think they would look farther back into our national history to iconic figures. Thinking more like Betsy Ross or Dolly Madison.

[timosman]

http://i.imgur.com/t9QGaDq.png (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0180052/)

[DevilsAdvocate]

I doubt it will be Rosa Parks but who knows? I would think they would look farther back into our national history to iconic figures. Thinking more like Betsy Ross or Dolly Madison.

Why are you only considering women?

[RonPaulIsGreat]

Right a woman on the 20, and I guess we'll let men get married to each other next!! You guys are going off the deep end with these conspiracy theories.

[Anti Federalist]

That note, is honest as well. Read carefully.

"Redeemable in lawful money"

[anaconda]

That would require one hell of a lot of vending machine reprogramming.

All bills could contain a small, universally recognized official logo for machines to read.

[Zippyjuan]

Why are you only considering women?

Because that is what is being debated. From the OP:


“It’s time”–for a woman on American currency, and why not? America is no longer a nation of heroes, but a collection of victims. Now even the currency of the Affirmative Action Nation is catching up with the reality that today’s hollow empire is nothing the Founding Fathers would recognize.

A campaign to put a woman, any woman, on the $20 bill received new traction when Senator Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) filed legislation for a “citizen’s panel” to recommend a replacement for the current bill’s celebration of President Andrew Jackson.

[acptulsa]

Right a woman on the 20, and I guess we'll let men get married to each other next!! You guys are going off the deep end with these conspiracy theories.

Couldn't possibly happen...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Specimen1Obv.jpg

[devil21]

All bills could contain a small, universally recognized official logo for machines to read.

Or perhaps an RFID tag? Yeah, don't think they won't do it.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

I think Abraham Lincoln should be on all the coins and all the dollars, to just really reinforce how awesome of a President he was

We should have heads of the fed on the dollar bills and a jewish holiday calender on the back

[acptulsa]

We should have heads of the fed on the dollar bills and a jewish holiday calender on the back

How about a nice warning label. Like...

WARNING Loss of confidence in this bill can render it worthless overnight

[Suzanimal]

Eleanor Roosevelt Is Top Choice for the $10 Bill, Poll Finds


Eleanor Roosevelt, who spent 12 years in the White House as first lady and traveled the world as a human-rights advocate, is the front-runner for the new face of the $10 bill, according to a poll.

Released on Wednesday, results from a Marist poll show that 27 percent of those surveyed would choose Mrs. Roosevelt. Harriet Tubman, the African-American abolitionist, was the second choice, with 17 percent. Sacagawea, the Shoshone woman who served as a translator and guide for the Lewis and Clark expedition, garnered 13 percent of the vote.

A New York Times obituary for Mrs. Roosevelt in 1962 described her as an energetic first lady to Franklin D. Roosevelt — her personality was both a strength and a burden, and, at first, her liveliness prompted criticism and jokes. Over the years, through her involvement with the United Nations and her work for civil rights, admiration for her deepened.

“She had become not only the wife and widow of a towering President,” the obituary read, “but a noble personality in herself.”

In June, the United States Treasury announced that a woman would replace Alexander Hamilton on the bill, with the only criterion being that the person chosen must be dead.

Earlier this year, Ms. Tubman was announced as the most popular choice in a social media campaign to replace President Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill. Advocates still want to see a woman take the controversial president’s place on that currency.

“Some people are saying it’s a lesser bill, and in fact it is a lesser bill both in value and in the fact that it is much less widely viewed and circulated,” Susan Ades Stone, the executive director of Women on 20s, told The New York Times in June. “It’s not the face we see at the bank coming out of the A.T.M.”

A favorable poll does not necessarily mean that Mrs. Roosevelt would ultimately be the chosen face on the $10 bill. The Treasury is monitoring social media suggestions as well as hosting meetings and discussions about the candidates. People are using the hashtag #TheNew10 to suggest their picks:

...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/06/us/politics/eleanor-roosevelt-is-top-choice-for-the-10-bill-poll-finds.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0

[CPUd]

I can't see it being anyone other than Eleanor Roosevelt.

[Carlybee]

Waste of tax dollars

[Suzanimal]

$10 bill decision delayed as Hamilton successor debate continues


Alexander Hamilton has been saved, for now.
The decision to select the woman who would take Alexander Hamilton’s spot on the $10 bill will be postponed until next year, a Treasury spokesperson announced Friday.

The delay was spurred by a slew of public comments about who should inherit the spot currently held by the first treasury secretary, who adopted the post in 1789. Treasury officials initially announced in June that the decision would be reached by the end of 2015.

Some heavy hitters in Washington, such as the former chairman of the Federal Reserve, Ben Bernanke, have published fierce criticism about Hamilton’s likely demotion.

Despite the push back, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew said the public’s opinion would weigh heavily in his decision. A spokesperson added that the Treasury Department had a surplus of ideas prompted by outsiders.

"As a result of the tremendous amount of engagement, we have many more ideas than we had originally anticipated. Therefore, we are taking additional time to carefully review and consider a range of options to honor the theme of democracy as well as the notable contributions women have made to our country," she told CBS News.

...
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/ten-dollar-bill-decision-delayed-hamilton-216706#ixzz3u4NCjEID

[RAC]

He should be replaced with Latoya Jackson. That picture of her nekkid Playboy spread should do it.

[TheNewYorker]

Jackson would be happy to be off the $20 bill.

[Contumacious]

Rosa Parks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trail of tears orchestrator Andrew Jackson. But frankly American money isn't going to be worth spit soon anyway.




May I respectfully suggest The Honorable Jessica Biel? I really love her brain.






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[Suzanimal]

GOP senator: Keep Hamilton on the $10 bill, take Jackson off $20 bill


Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) says Alexander Hamilton deserves to stay on the $10 bill because of his service as the first secretary of Treasury.

He added that a woman deserves to grace the paper currency of the United States, but suggested the $20 bill, which currently bares the face of former president Andrew Jackson, as the more appropriate denomination.

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“My better idea is if you are going to replace somebody off of one of the bills – which I have no problem with a lady being on one of the bills – that you would replace the 20,” Lankford said on “Kilmeade and Friends” earlier this week, as first reported by BuzzFeed News.

He said Jackson, who ordered the removal of several Native American tribes in the infamous “Trail of Tears,” had a “pretty checkered history.”

“He was a rugged mountain man to say the least, but he was also the one that relocated Native American tribes out of all of the southeastern part of the United States and did forcible removal, and tens of thousands of Native Americans died on the Trail of Tears and other things,” Lankford said.

“So if we are going to remove someone, which I have no problem with doing, then let’s do the 20, not the 10, the very first secretary of the Treasury, Alexander Hamilton,” he added.

Hamilton, who has enjoyed a popular revival due to the Broadway musical about his life story, has been slated by the Treasury Department to be removed from the $10 bill in favor of a woman.

The finalists for the new currency, which is scheduled to be unveiled in 2020, are Harriet Tubman, Eleanor Roosevelt, Rosa Parks and Wilma Mankiller.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/267605-gop-senator-keep-hamilton-on-the-10-bill-take-jackson-off-20

[timosman]

Why not put a woman on a $200 or $500 bill? It is high time we put higher denominations in circulation.

[Ronin Truth]

Andy's memory deserves much better than the sick bankster's joke of being stuck on the bogus fiat $20 FRN.

[Occam's Banana]

GOP senator: Keep Hamilton on the $10 bill, take Jackson off $20 bill

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/267605-gop-senator-keep-hamilton-on-the-10-bill-take-jackson-off-20

Notice how this jackhole yaps a lot about Jackson's responsibility for the "Trail of Tears" (which, granted, was a vile, treacherous and despicably murderous crime) while he makes nary a peep about how Jackson was the arch-nemesis of central banking in his day. (Jackson famously "killed" the Second Bank of the United States.)

Given Jackson's legacy of intense antipathy and antagonism towards central banks and central bankers (and from within the context of fiat creation of money by the Federal Reserve), putting Jackson's image on Federal Reserve Notes of any denomination is an exercise in history-blurring hypocrisy. Of course, such blurring is probably why they put Jackson on the twenty in the first place (as if to suggest that Jackson would have endorsed our present "Third Bank of the United States" - a.k.a. the Fed).

[Anti Federalist]

Why not put a woman on a $200 or $500 bill? It is high time we put higher denominations in circulation.

Only terrorists and drug dealers use cash.

Reported.

[heavenlyboy34]

Only terrorists and drug dealers use cash.

Reported.
Well done, comrade. Sorry I can't +rep you for your service to Big Sister.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.

[DamianTV]

Yeah, get rid of "I killed the Bank" Andrew Jackson. Im sure a lot of us know that is his epitaph on his tombstone, referring to a Central Bank.

I think a valid question to ask of others is "Do you know what Andrew Jacksons relationship was to Central Banking?" for the mundanes out there...

[Jamesiv1]

I'm not sure whether to pos or neg rep you....
give him a trans-rep

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

She's sort of a little lackluster, but I always thought that Queen Latifah has a cute face. If she lost a few lbs., then she'd actually look pretty hot. She'd then fit nice in that little circle on the bill.

Either her or Wendy Williams. Williams has some big hooters.

[presence]

such blurring is probably why they put Jackson on the twenty in the first place (as if to suggest that Jackson would have endorsed our present "Third Bank of the United States" - a.k.a. the Fed).

Jackson on the $20 is kind of like selling pope brand abortion buckets.

[seapilot]

Money before the civil war did not have dead people on them or buildings. Every single coin had an image of a woman. It was Lady Liberty.

[DamianTV]

Money before the civil war did not have dead people on them or buildings. Every single coin had an image of a woman. It was Lady Liberty.

The bankers like to flaunt Dead Presidents on their currency (not money) as if they supported the banks. Think about who is on our currencies.

Washington - Revolutionary War
Jackson - I killed the bank, referring to the 2nd National Bank (Central Bank)
Lincoln - Greenback

Thats just to name three, and Im not super familiar with the history of non US currencies, but Im sure the same thing happens.

I think there are three true layers of control: Violence, Money, and Belief. In order for a currency to exist that does not restrict banks, it cant be money. The two are very different. Thus, it is critical that the majority of the population have a Belief that the currency they use is Money. Any competing currencies that can not be subverted are prohibited and quickly labeled "counterfeit" or some other legal slander. Believe what you are ordered to believe. If you do not, first you are punished through Money. Fines, low wages, taxes, etc. If you refuse to comply with Belief or Money, then you call in the Dept of Violence.

The three systems of control balance each other out, and always benefit a very small group of powerful manipulative people at the very top of the food chain. Violence is used to reign in the other two departments. You control the middlemen in the Dept of Money with threats of Violence and manipulate Beliefs. You control the Dept of Violence with Money and Belief. You control the Dept of Belief with Violence and Money. This is the TRUE nature of control, and Money is only one of several tools used to control entire societies with the entirety of the human race as the final goal.

The reason that Belief, Violence and Money are related to the whole Andrew Jackson thing is a manipulation of Belief. Seeing Jacksons face on the currency is becoming a liability and not an asset, since people are becoming aware of who Andrew Jackson was and why his was so important to the history of freedom.

Damn near every action that is taken by the true rulers of the planet will be enacted by one of those three foundations. These people do not respect Rights or the Law. They dont recognize private property. They do not respect the individual. Our structure of government, where we, in the US have an Executive, Legislative and Judicial branch is merely to maintain an illusion. If you take over a country, then try to change the name of that country, the people will revolt, but keep the name of the country, but slowly replace the functional parts of that countrys guts with whatever you want, and people will usually be happy and accept whatever they are told to accept. Dont change the illusion, that is what people react to, just change the way it works and you can dismantle and install corrupt systems without contending with the ire of the masses. When the Federal Reserve Bank was given the power to print the currency for the entire US, the name of the currency was exactly the same as the money we previously used: the Dollar. Had they changed the NAME of the Dollar to anything else, there would have been a revolution that day. The names are manipulations of Belief. This causes people to Believe that the previously existing system has not changed, despite having been replaced entirely with something that benefits those at the very top.

"I sincerely believe that the refusal of King George the 3rd to allow the colonies to operate and maintain an honest money system, that frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, was probably the primary cause for the revolution." - Franklin

"All the perplexities, confusions, and distresses in America arise, not from defects in their constitution or confederation, nor from want of honor or virtue, as much from downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit, and circulation." - John Adams, letter to Thomas Jefferson (25 August 1787) The Works of John Adams.

What we have today is currency, not money. The difference between the two is critical to understanding why and how those in power have usurped more power over the common man, and what needs to be done in order to free the common man from the clutches of the money manipulators. An honest money system is a critical part of creating and maintaining a sustainable and peaceful society whose foundations are based on the ideas of freedom and liberty for all.

EVERY government and society which has accepted a Fiat Currency as its system of money has collapsed, except for the USA, which is well on its way to becoming yet another addition to the pages of history which repeatedly prove this point.

[presence]

what about Chapter Jackson? You wouldn't even have to change the micro print on the name.

http://i.imgur.com/YSr6OYV.jpg

[Lucille]

The fedgov should be honest for once in its pathetic existence.

http://www.theflagshop.co.uk/ekmps/shops/speed/images/black-skull-cross-sabres-pirate-flag-324-p.gif


"Gentlemen! I too have been a close observer of the doings of the Bank of the United States. I have had men watching you for a long time, and am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country.

When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin!

Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out."

From the original minutes of the Philadelphia bankers sent to meet with President Jackson February 1834 (http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2012/08/how-andrew-jackson-killed-second-bank.html),
from Andrew Jackson and the Bank of the United States (1928) by Stan V. Henkels

[DamianTV]

How much does anyone want to bet that todays youth doesnt know the difference between Andrew Jackson and Michael Jackson?

[milgram]

I don't understand why this has to be so controversial. Instead of removing a president they could simply issue separate versions with different people like they did with state quarters.

[timosman]

http://time.com/4593420/harriet-tubman-20-bill-donald-trump-design/


Dec. 7, 2016

https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/harriet-tubman1.jpg

To pressure the Trump administration to not kill it

U.S. government officials say Treasury Secretary Jack Lew could release early images of redesigned $5, $10 and $20 bills in an effort to pressure the Trump Administration away from reversing their plans.

But doing so, officials fear, could give counterfeiters a running start and could ultimately hurt plans to add a woman to front of the currency.

The Treasury Department has not confirmed that there are any current plans to release early renderings of the design, but officials inside and out of the Obama Administration have said the decision is ultimately up to the Secretary. Officials say that security should be the determining factor in any such plan.

In a statement to TIME after this post was published, a Treasury Department spokesperson said the process to update the bills is well underway and the Bureau of Engraving and Printing was directed to accelerate its work on the note redesign at the time of Lew’s announcement. “That work, which could include ideas for imagery, will be documented in a way that captures the full record of the excellent progress that has been made on this project and is consistent with our primary concern for the security of our currency,” a spokesperson said. ” The process of currency redesign is complex and was always expected to extend beyond the span of one administration.”

Given the results of the 2016 election, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew is in a bind. In less than seven weeks, he will hand the keys over to his successor and his legacy-securing plan to overhaul the look of our nation’s currency will go out the door with him.

While most of the Treasury Department officials who make recommendations on which currency should change and why based on security are career employees, changes to the aesthetics are at the sole discretion of the Treasury Secretary. It is not yet known how the Trump Administration will approach the currency redesign.

When the Treasury Department announced major changes to the faces of the $5, $10 and $20 bills, including the inclusion of a woman as the portrait on U.S. currency for the first time in modern history, it was widely viewed as a watershed moment.

Public backlash was minimal and despite signals by government officials that the actual bills would not hit the market until the late 2020s, the nation appeared ready for a woman,—Harriet Tubman, at that—to appear on the front of U.S. currency.

There was one major skeptic, however: President-elect Donald Trump. Then in the throes of the primary election, Trump called the move “pure political correctness” and suggested moving Tubman to a lower denomination like the $2 bill.

“Andrew Jackson had a great history. I think it’s very rough when you take somebody off the bill,” Trump said last spring.

That quote did not go unnoticed by the Treasury Department, where the redesign process is currently underway, though at the time most were still convinced Hillary Clinton would defeat Trump in the 2016 election. In October, Lew took a trip to Philadelphia where he toured the Marian Anderson museum and discussed the changes with graduate students at the Wharton School of Business.

In an interview with the Philadelphia Inquirer, Lew said that there is already plenty of enthusiasm around their proposed changes.

“I think the enthusiasm about the announcement and what we’ve made has left an important mark,” Lew told the Inquirer. “I think the decisions like the decision of Harriet Tubman on the $20; people have already started calling them ‘Tubmans’ and they’re not even printed yet.”

But Trump’s surprise victory over Hillary Clinton, has led many to question what was next for the project.

It is true that the enthusiasm is there. A Google image search of “Harriet Tubman 20” reveals dozens of imagined designs of the new bill, which would be last in line for a redesign. In Northeast Washington, a D.C.-based artist painted a mural of Harriet Tubman as the portrait of the $20 bill. And mention of Harriet Tubmans as the new face of the currency did permeate the rap culture lexicon as many suspected, creeping its way into the remix of the O.T. Genesis song “Cut It” featuring Kevin Gates and Young Thug.

But the next Administration could easily choose to ignore the pulse of the people. Groups like Women on 20s, which has been adamant about replacing Jackson on the currency, have already expressed concern.

“It would be a slap in the face of women to reverse the decision in our opinion.” Susan Ades Stone, the executive director of Women on 20s told MarketWatch this week. It could, however, be much harder to ignore renderings of the future bills. It is that line of thinking that insiders say has lead Treasury to consider releasing early images.

“For the public we’re all visual people,” a government official who asked to remain anonymous to discuss the process, told TIME. “There are a lot of outstanding questions— If women are going on the back [of the $10 note] how is that going to work? How is that going to look?”

The only problem with that thinking, government officials say, is that it could end up doing more harm than good. “Putting anything out there prematurely, I’m not sure that it gives people clarity,” said an official. “People will take what you put out there and think that that’s final and that’s not necessarily the case. We’re not far enough along in the process where we can unveil or release any type of design element at this point in time.”

Typically, designs are released closer to the actual production of bills to reduce the likelihood of counterfeiting and to lessen any confusion in the marketplace about the U.S. bills. The focus of the redesign process, after all, is a particular bills’ security. Any changes to whom or what is on the bill comes last. There are some images out already. One day after the initial announcement, the Treasury Department posted images on Medium of Secretary Lew meeting with designers and printers, holding a portrait of Harriet Tubman. On the public website for the new bills, there are also multiple images that are said to have inspired the Secretary’s currency plan. Releasing images early could also politicize the process, officials say, possibly giving a new administration even more reason to scrap the plan.

Despite what happens to the aesthetic elements, officials in the Department are still working on the yet-to-be-announced security features of the new bills, starting with the $10 note, which is first in line to be updated.

Officials say that the majority of people who work on that the team in charge of developing security features will still be in place after Trump’s inauguration, meaning the security focus will continue. A change from the top, however, could mean that beyond being pushed to the back of the bill, women could ultimately get pushed off.

[enhanced_deficit]

http://time.com/4593420/harriet-tubman-20-bill-donald-trump-design/


Is this part of operation "trump-proof" WH:

Obama is rushing to Trump-proof the White House (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?505214-Obama-is-rushing-to-Trump-proof-the-White-House&)

[devil21]

Devaluation coming.

[timosman]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-the-plan-to-put-harriet-tubman-on-the-dollar20-bill?ref=home


04.19.18

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When a Harriet Tubman scholar found out in 2016 that the abolitionist she studied for decades was going to be the new face of the $20 bill, she cried.

“Here you have an African American woman, formerly enslaved who fought and struggled her whole life for freedom and equality.” Kate Larson said.

But Larson and others eager to withdraw Tubmans from the bank may have to wait longer than expected. Two years ago this week, Treasury Secretary Jack Lew announced redesigns for the $20, $10, and $5 bills that would honor civil rights and women’s rights icons: Tubman, Alice Paul, and Marian Anderson. Lew said the new note designs would debut by 2020, 100 years after women gained the right to vote.

But now the Trump administration is putting the plan on the backburner, according to the Treasury department.

A spokesperson for the Bureau of Engraving and Printing told The Daily Beast that the redesigns have not been finalized or approved for circulation. The next note set to be released is the $10 bill, and the redesign won’t enter circulation until 2026, according to a spokesperson.

Before Lew’s announcement, the Treasury Department’s Advanced Counterfeit Deterrence Steering Committee signaled that a new $10 bill would be rolled out first, followed by the $50 bill, and then the $20 bill. The release dates for all the new notes could be pushed back even further to fight counterfeiting, according to a spokesperson. That means the public may not see the Tubman $20 bill until years, even decades after the original 2020 design release date.

Treasury Secretary Mnuchin has the final say on the Tubman $20 note and other redesigns, according the spokesperson.

“Ultimately we will be looking at this issue, [but] it’s not something that I’m focused on at the moment,” Mnuchin told CNN last year.

President Trump, a fan of Andrew Jackson, the current face of the $20, has not spoken on the redesign since his election, but in 2016 he said the decision was “pure political correctness” and recommended that Tubman’s portrait should go on the barely circulated $2 bill instead.

The original rollout in 2016 was met with fanfare and some frustration.

“For the first time in more than a century, the front of our currency will feature the portrait of a woman,” Secretary Lew said in a letter announcing the decision. Women’s rights organizations who rallied for a woman to go on paper money (two women have appeared on national coins, Sacagawea and Susan B. Anthony) applauded the decision they fought for but wondered why the recognition took so long.

The founders of Women on 20s, an organization that created a grassroots campaign and public poll to put a woman on the popular currency before the Treasury’s decision, told The Daily Beast that the redesign news was a “trifecta” moment. Susan Ades Stone and Barbara Ortiz Howard rallied for Tubman’s face on the $20, but they were not expecting additions to the notes of lesser value.

The campaign idea dawned on Howard while she was waiting in line for coffee. Both women suspected the public would be interested in pushing for a female face on paper currency, too.

“We hope the reveal of the design will happen in 2020,” they said. “With all the talk of equality and showing respect to women as equals and recognizing our valuable contributions, this is something we should be trumpeting to the rest of the world.”

Larson, a Tubman scholar and biographer hopes the redesign rollout will show Americans a different side of the abolitionist, who is often viewed as grandmotherly and mythical.

“I think it will spread her legacy far beyond than it already is. The real truth of her life is more inspiring than the myths,” said Larson.

When asked about the whitewashing of black historical figures like Martin Luther King Jr. and Tubman, Larson said, “People don’t want to hear about unflattering parts of their lives and the militancy of many black leaders is a problem for some white americans.”

During the initial announcement, some critics said putting a former slave on U.S. capital was problematic. But Larson thinks Tubman would be honored to be on the new $20: the Maryland native saved up money to buy oxen for work and eventually bought her freedom. The icon, who lived into her 90s, ran a farm and worked in the brick-making business.

“She was an entrepreneur,” said Larson.

Tubman’s descendants are waiting on the new bill, too. Pauline Copes Johnson, the 90-year-old great-great-grandniece of Tubman, told The Root when she found out her aunt’s face would cover money, “Hallelujah, at last it has come to pass.’”

[oyarde]

Devaluation coming.

Those food stamps will not buy much then . Finally america might lose a few pounds .

[acptulsa]

https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/257981896_10220722833685020_7535913768546286670_n. jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=_lmd3bSu7ZIAX_GJTRd&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-2.xx&oh=7f9fbfa9c048fceac8380de7be533912&oe=619862D9
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[jkr]

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oh $hit!

[RJB]

Another bump for Lady Liberty!!!


I'm all for putting a woman back on our money like we did in the old days before we became an empire.

Bring back Lady Liberty!

http://peacedollars.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/Peace-Dollar.jpg

[acptulsa]

Another bump for Lady Liberty!!!

We'll be using her soon enough. She's 90% silver, 10% nickel, and doesn't shrink in value like wool in a hot dryer.

She ceased to be official and didn't lose value. Can an FRN do that?

[TheTexan]

Trump was basically America's best President of all time, if anyone deserves to be on a bill its him

[acptulsa]

Trump was basically America's best President of all time, if anyone deserves to be on a bill its him

So, you're saying he deserves to be dead? Because, like, you have to be to get on money.

[tebowlives]

Trump was basically America's best President of all time, if anyone deserves to be on a bill its him
What about Monica Lewinsky? She's had experience being on a Bill.