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RandallFan
04-16-2015, 04:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fka8ayhOweg

orenbus
04-16-2015, 04:40 PM
OMG amazing!

Was this broadcast on air or just on the internet segment?

Edit: It was a in a post-show discussion posted online. :/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/04/16/kirsten_powers_vs_krauthammer_you_know_what_a_neoc on_is_youre_a_neocon_why_are_you_acting_like_you_d ont_know.html

ThePaleoLibertarian
04-16-2015, 04:43 PM
This is a common "defense" from neocons. They say that the word has no definition, that it's a code word for "Jew", all sorts of horseshit. Few neocons actually self-identify as such. You call Mark Levin a neocon, he flips out and accuses the user of the label of being an anti-semite. Even John Bolton doesn't self-identify as a neoconservative FFS.

Kords21
04-16-2015, 04:54 PM
If the shoe fits....

specsaregood
04-16-2015, 04:57 PM
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presence
04-16-2015, 05:02 PM
Come and take it Charles.

ThePaleoLibertarian
04-16-2015, 05:06 PM
I have to say, Kirsten Powers is rather perceptive, especially for a Fox News broad. I don't know much about her, but she's piqued my interest. (mod edit)

Feeding the Abscess
04-16-2015, 05:17 PM
I have to say, Kirsten Powers is rather perceptive, especially for a Fox News broad. I don't know much about her, but she's piqued my interest. (mod edit).

She's a democrat, used to work with the Clintons. A small sampling of her political positions, which are not doctrinaire progressive or DNC pablum:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsten_Powers#Political_positions

ThePaleoLibertarian
04-16-2015, 05:20 PM
She's a democrat, used to work with the Clintons. A small sampling of her political positions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsten_Powers#Political_positions
Ugh, never mind then.

mad cow
04-16-2015, 05:24 PM
It will probably take one, maybe two generations. It might be 50 years before the United States gets to where Britain is today.

Passing a law like the assault weapons ban is a symbolic - purely symbolic - move in that direction. Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation. Its purpose is to spark debate, highlight the issue, make the case that the arms race between criminals and citizens is as dangerous as it is pointless.

Here is a stark example of how six year olds,and their parents,have been subject to creeping anti-gun propaganda in the last two generations.I weep to think what the next two generations have in store for us.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PouB1N0eYx0

On a personal note,I owned this toy below when I was six,I dropped it on my big toe and it cost me my toenail.
These commercials were on every day,specifically on shows that kids watched,such as saturday morning cartoons.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXui3FqBk8w

And now you can get suspended for making a pointy finger?SMH

dannno
04-16-2015, 05:30 PM
lol @ 1:13 - 1:21

They call her "Rand Paul" :D

dannno
04-16-2015, 05:36 PM
Panel should watch this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7zwWqMPqkU

Feeding the Abscess
04-16-2015, 06:42 PM
lol @ 1:13 - 1:21

They call her "Rand Paul" :D

I think they were referring to themselves as Rand Paul for talking over her.

Thor
04-16-2015, 06:46 PM
Nice someone called them out on their fake confusion... jumping into the snake den...

AuH20
04-16-2015, 06:49 PM
This is a common "defense" from neocons. They say that the word has no definition, that it's a code word for "Jew", all sorts of horseshit. Few neocons actually self-identify as such. You call Mark Levin a neocon, he flips out and accuses the user of the label of being an anti-semite. Even John Bolton doesn't self-identify as a neoconservative FFS.

I never thought Levin to be a neocon. He was more of an Israel firster like Palin. Neocons believe in their hearts of hearts that it is the duty of the United States to transform (via military power) the 'uncivilized' frontiers of the globe into their desired image. It's a very sick ideology at it's core.

Thor
04-16-2015, 06:51 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism


Neoconservatism is a political movement born in the United States during the 1960s. Many of its adherents rose to political fame during the Republican presidential administrations of the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and 2000s. Neoconservatives peaked in influence during the presidency of George W. Bush (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_George_W._Bush), when they played a major role in promoting and planning the invasion of Iraq (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#cite_note-1) Prominent neoconservatives in the Bush administration included Dick Cheney (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney), Donald Rumsfeld (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld), Paul Wolfowitz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz), John Bolton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton), Elliott Abrams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Abrams), Richard Perle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Perle), and Paul Bremer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bremer).
The term "neoconservative" refers to those who made the ideological journey from the anti-Stalinist left (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Stalinist_left) to the camp of American conservatism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_conservatism).[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#cite_note-2) Neoconservatives frequently advocate the promotion of democracy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy) and promotion of American national interest (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_interest) in international affairs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_relations), including by means of military force, and are known for espousing disdain for communism and political radicalism.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#cite_note-britannica-3)[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#cite_note-merriam-webster-4) Many early neoconservative thinkers were Jewish and published articles in Commentary (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commentary_%28magazine%29), published by the American Jewish Committee.[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#cite_note-5)[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#cite_note-6) They spoke out against the New Left (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Left), and in that way helped define the movement.[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#cite_note-7)[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#cite_note-8) C. Bradley Thompson, a professor at Clemson University, claims that most influential neoconservatives refer explicitly to the theoretical ideas in the philosophy of Leo Strauss (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Strauss) (1899–1973),[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism#cite_note-9) though in doing so they might be drawing upon meaning that Strauss himself did not endorse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Strauss#Response_to_criticisms).


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/06/Irving_Kristol.jpg/150px-Irving_Kristol.jpg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Irving_Kristol.jpg)

Irving Kristol (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Kristol) was called "godfather" of neoconservatism

Brian4Liberty
04-16-2015, 07:07 PM
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CPUd
04-16-2015, 07:25 PM
http://i.imgur.com/HDlKpF8.jpg

Brian4Liberty
04-16-2015, 07:35 PM
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Brian4Liberty
04-16-2015, 07:44 PM
This is a common "defense" from neocons. They say that the word has no definition, that it's a code word for "Jew", all sorts of horseshit. Few neocons actually self-identify as such. You call Mark Levin a neocon, he flips out and accuses the user of the label of being an anti-semite. Even John Bolton doesn't self-identify as a neoconservative FFS.


I never thought Levin to be a neocon. He was more of an Israel firster like Palin. Neocons believe in their hearts of hearts that it is the duty of the United States to transform (via military power) the 'uncivilized' frontiers of the globe into their desired image. It's a very sick ideology at it's core.

Yeah, I wouldn't categorize Levin as a neoconservative. Neoconservatives at heart are big government statists. They are in essence, at it's simplest generalization, Progressive global hawks (but not hippies).

Krauthammer calling for gun control is a good example. Or just about every position Lindsey Graham eventually takes.

ctiger2
04-16-2015, 09:00 PM
Powers sounds like a right-wing nut-job anti-semetic cons-piracy theo-rist.

dillo
04-16-2015, 09:44 PM
being anti war is now anti semitic

Powers might be a liberal, but she sure didnt back down. Good for her

Neocons are old pro war liberals.....the ones of today are pro war people with the views is 60's liberals aka 90% of the the republican party and slightly less of the democrat party

jmdrake
04-16-2015, 09:48 PM
Charles Krauthammer is a vile and evil man, a traitor to this country and by his own words a terrorist sympathizer. He should be put in Gitmo.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIRUeJYFZ94

Sola_Fide
04-16-2015, 09:52 PM
Haha....I love it. Faux News is in a tailspin.

twomp
04-16-2015, 10:09 PM
lol that was awesome! Charles Krauthammer is sooo fking long winded. He takes a sentence and turns that shit into a paragraph. I don't know how anyone can actually listen to him talk.

RickyJ
04-16-2015, 10:13 PM
being anti war is now anti semitic

Powers might be a liberal, but she sure didnt back down. Good for her

Neocons are old pro war liberals.....the ones of today are pro war people with the views is 60's liberals aka 90% of the the republican party and slightly less of the democrat party

If you aren't being called an "anti-Semite" these days then you are doing something wrong. I get called one regularly and it means nothing to me. It is the mindless rhetoric of fools. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see who is controlling America, and it sure isn't Christians, despite this supposedly being a "Christian nation."

idiom
04-18-2015, 05:14 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Bn92UWc.jpg

KingNothing
04-18-2015, 10:27 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fka8ayhOweg

OH MY GOD! THAT WAS AMAZING!

And this is amazing for a subtle reason -- ten years ago, no one would have been able to do this. The strangehold that neocons held on right-leaning media was so powerful, the stranglehold that neocons held on the Republican party, was so powerful, that no one ever challenged them like this.

nobody's_hero
04-18-2015, 02:52 PM
This is a common "defense" from neocons. They say that the word has no definition, that it's a code word for "Jew", all sorts of horseshit. Few neocons actually self-identify as such. You call Mark Levin a neocon, he flips out and accuses the user of the label of being an anti-semite. Even John Bolton doesn't self-identify as a neoconservative FFS.

I see that a lot when you call them RINO's as well. It almost makes me want to punch someone in the face. The freeze frame for the video thumbnail tells it all. That expression is a look of pure arrogance.

These people would have proudly owned the label 15 years ago when it was popular. Now they're trying to conceal their true identities like former SS officers running from Nuremburg.

Brian4Liberty
04-21-2015, 12:50 PM
What a coincidence. Wonder if Kirsten includes Krauthammer as one of the people who is trying to stifle her free speech via intimidation and demonization?


The Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech

Lifelong liberal Kirsten Powers blasts the Left's forced march towards conformity in an exposé of the illiberal war on free speech. No longer champions of tolerance and free speech, the "illiberal Left" now viciously attacks and silences anyone with alternative points of view. Powers asks, "What ever happened to free speech in America?"

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1621573702

Deborah K
04-21-2015, 01:24 PM
Notice how they're trying to diminish and downplay the role of neo-conservatism in foreign policy? And even trying now to tie it to anti-Semitism! Sauerkraut even called it a "slur". "The description is meaningless!"
Uh-huh. Yeah. Which is it, Charles, cuz it can't be both. They are running as fast as they can from the label now because Rand exposed them. That's all this is.

Brian4Liberty
04-21-2015, 01:44 PM
Krauthammer is channeling Dennis Rodman.

Who remembers the times Rodman was caught naked in bed cheating on his wife and saying "there's no girl here, who are you going to believe, your eyes or me?"

Henry Rogue
04-21-2015, 02:02 PM
My personal definition, a neocon must have certain traits, a warmonger, particularly a desire for occupation and puppet governments, and a strong inclination for economic central planning. If you want to spread democracy around the world or be the policemen of the world and think a republican president can "run" an economy better than a democrat president, you might be a neocon.