Rand and the Torch? WTF?

[libertariantexas]

The "Store" on Randpaul.com is full of gear with nothing but the word "Rand" and a flaming torch.

No last name, no mention of President, no mention of 2016.

Am I the only one that thinks that when the average CLUELESS American citizen sees "Rand" and a torch on a Tshirt he is not going to have the first clue as to what the Hell you are advertising?

Looks more like you are endorsing the Olympic hopes of someone or some organization called "Rand." Golly Gee, I sure hope Rand makes the team and brings back the Gold for the USA!

How about something simple, that people can understand like, I don't know, maybe "RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2016?" A little less "branding" and a little more substance, perhaps?

With or without the torch- can anyone tell me what the torch symbolizes?

[LatinsforPaul]

Hillary and Jeb are doing the same thing. You won't see the Clinton or Bush name in their signs either.

[Sola_Fide]

It probably symbolizes liberty or something like that.

I'm actually weirded out because we are going to have 2 "first names" as top candidates. Hillary and Rand.

[libertyplz]

With or without the torch- can anyone tell me what the torch symbolizes?

Liberty I'd assume

http://www.historyofthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/statue-of-liberty-2.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/483580697219588097/exzUHbyf_400x400.jpeg

[William Tell]

I'm not a fan of the design. Maybe it will grow on me, I dunno.

[libertariantexas]

Hillary and Jeb are doing the same thing. You won't see the Clinton or Bush name in their signs either.

Everyone knows who Hillary is, she's been a national figure for more than 20 years. The Bush's have been a political dynasty for generations.

Rand is a first term senator from a small state. He does NOT have that kind of name recognition.

If he wants some "stylistic" gear, fine, but he should also have some that gives a CLEAR message to the many who don't know who "Rand" is.

BTW, when I was looking up the meaning of the torch (apparently there is none?), I came across this article panning the logo:

http://www.businessinsider.com/design-experts-review-rand-pauls-campaign-logos-2015-4

I can't say that I disagree with the article.

Like the author, when I first saw "Rand" and nothing more, I thought about these guys (who I'm quite sure Rand does not want to advertise for):

http://www.rand.org/
http://www.rand.org/about.html

[Jeremy]

It's better imagery for the "brand". Also, it's probably good for legal / practical reasons as well. We have RAND PAC, Rand Paul for Senate, and Rand Paul for President. All of them can be represented by this one logo.

[luctor-et-emergo]

From wiki:


The torch is a common emblem of both enlightenment and hope. Thus the Statue of Liberty, actually "Liberty Enlightening the World", lifts her torch. Crossed reversed torches were signs of mourning that appear on Greek and Roman funerary monuments—a torch pointed downwards symbolizes death, while a torch held up symbolizes life, truth and the regenerative power of flame. The torch is also a symbol used by political parties, for instance by both Labour (from 1918 to 1980) and the Conservatives (from 1983 to 2006) in the UK, and the Malta Labour Party. In the seals of schools in the Philippines, the torch symbolizes the vision of education to provide enlightenment to all the students.

[libertyplz]

Just one more pic as proof that it is supposed to symbolize liberty:

http://extraordinaryintelligence.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/ron-paul-liberty-defined.gif

[libertariantexas]

I won't even get into some of the other ridiculous gear (the small percent that is not "RAND and a torch").

Does a Tshirt that says nothing but "Don't Drone Me, Bro" (and nothing else) really help Rand Paul get elected?

On the entire site, I found only 2 items that say "Rand Paul" on them- a baseball shirt that says "Rand Paul" and nothing else, and an "Eye chart" which was the ONLY thing that actually said "Rand Paul for President."

N

[Xenliad]

The torch symbolizes Ron passing the torch to his son.

[Jeremy]

I won't even get into some of the other ridiculous gear (the small percent that is not "RAND and a torch").

Does a Tshirt that says nothing but "Don't Drone Me, Bro" (and nothing else) really help Rand Paul get elected?

On the entire site, I found only 2 items that say "Rand Paul" on them- a baseball shirt that says "Rand Paul" and nothing else, and an "Eye chart" which was the ONLY thing that actually said "Rand Paul for President."

N

A lot of the items are primarily for raising money. Obviously eye doctors aren't going to use the eye chart. Also, the single-name logo makes him look more mainstream, as if voters already know his name and who he is (which will hopefully be true by next year).

[jmdrake]

The "Store" on Randpaul.com is full of gear with nothing but the word "Rand" and a flaming torch.

No last name, no mention of President, no mention of 2016.

Am I the only one that thinks that when the average CLUELESS American citizen sees "Rand" and a torch on a Tshirt he is not going to have the first clue as to what the Hell you are advertising?

Looks more like you are endorsing the Olympic hopes of someone or some organization called "Rand." Golly Gee, I sure hope Rand makes the team and brings back the Gold for the USA!

How about something simple, that people can understand like, I don't know, maybe "RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2016?" A little less "branding" and a little more substance, perhaps?

With or without the torch- can anyone tell me what the torch symbolizes?

In 2007/2008 did anybody have any doubt what this meant?

https://obamamedia.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/obama-o-logo-blue-gradient-1680x1050.png

[AuH20]

As far as political logos go, this one works. I have no problem with it.

[libertariantexas]

Just one more pic as proof that it is supposed to symbolize liberty:

http://extraordinaryintelligence.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/ron-paul-liberty-defined.gif

Okay, maybe it does.

But do you really think that Joe Six Pack or Josephine Soccer Mom who sees me wearing a shirt at the Grocery store with "Rand" and a torch is going to make that connection?

I sure as Hell don't.

Not sure if I should wait until the web site gets something decent, or go to a supplier outside of the campaign, but I'm not going to waste money on a campaign sure that is vague as Hell.

[jmdrake]

The torch symbolizes Ron passing the torch to his son.

I thought it symbolized his read hair.

http://www.wallpaperno.com/thumbnails/detail/20121026/beaker%20the%20muppet%20show%20like%20a%20boss%201 920x1200%20wallpaper_www.wallpaperno.com_2.jpg

[mosquitobite]

All of our local libertarian leaning republicans use the torch in some manner.

Would you rather he use the standard elephant? :mad:

[libertyplz]

Okay, maybe it does.

But do you really think that Joe Six Pack or Josephine Soccer Mom who sees me wearing a shirt at the Grocery store with "Rand" and a torch is going to make that connection?

I sure as Hell don't.

Not sure if I should wait until the web site gets something decent, or go to a supplier outside of the campaign, but I'm not going to waste money on a campaign sure that is vague as Hell.

Not sure, hard to tell since I've become more politically involved the last few years. When I see a torch as a part of branding though the first thing that comes to mind is "liberty". If you don't like the stuff on the store I recommend sending them suggestions, from what I've heard they have been very receptive to feedback. They didn't have buttons at first but after some asked for it they added them

[libertariantexas]

In 2007/2008 did anybody have any doubt what this meant?

https://obamamedia.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/obama-o-logo-blue-gradient-1680x1050.png

Yeah, he had the "symbol." But the symbol came with "Obama 2012" and/or Obama's picture and 2012. The shirts and signs also always had BARACKOBAMA.COM on them. It was pretty obvious that the symbol was connected to Obama's Presidential campaign.

He didn't have shirts that had nothing but the symbol and "Bar" under them. No web site, no last name, no date, no office being run for.

[Jeremy]

I don't get how someone has never heard of a torch before. Have you ever seen the Olympics? Have you seen the Statue of Liberty? Probably like a third of political logos have a torch in it too.

[libertariantexas]

Not sure, hard to tell since I've become more politically involved the last few years. When I see a torch as a part of branding though the first thing that comes to mind is "liberty". If you don't like the stuff on the store I recommend sending them suggestions, from what I've heard they have been very receptive to feedback. They didn't have buttons at first but after some asked for it they added them

I'm sure someone will take the initiative to make some decent gear, just like in 2007 when the Ron Paul campaign started out clueless and had effectively nothing available. We ended up going to local printers to make our own "Ron Paul 2008" signs.

So I'll just wait for that, I guess.

Too bad my money will be going to some individual rather than the campaign.

[libertariantexas]

I don't get how someone has never heard of a torch before. Have you ever seen the Olympics? Have you seen the Statue of Liberty? Probably like a third of political logos have a torch in it too.

Like I said, it looks like the shirts are advertising someone's Olympic dreams, not a Presidential campaign.

The torch is fine, if there is something with it to CLEARLY indicate that the sign is for RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT, not Rand Corporation, or the Ayn Rand Institute, or the Olympics, or whatever.

[Jeremy]

Like I said, it looks like the shirts are advertising someone's Olympic dreams, not a Presidential campaign.

The torch is fine, if there is something with it to CLEARLY indicate that the sign is for RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT, not Rand Corporation, or the Ayn Rand Institute, or the Olympics, or whatever.

Oh well in that case, like I said above, the idea is that everyone will know who Rand is by the time they vote and will know that these signs are for him. It's not something Ron Paul could have ever done due to the media blackout against him. But I think Jeb and Hillary will probably be doing the same thing as someone else mentioned. It's cleaner cut and looks more mainstream.

[mosquitobite]

You could also argue that it is fiscally responsible. ;) WHEN he wins in 2016, the same stuff will be good for 2020 if there are no dates on there. hehe

[William Tell]

I'm sure someone will take the initiative to make some decent gear, just like in 2007 when the Ron Paul campaign started out clueless and had effectively nothing available. We ended up going to local printers to make our own "Ron Paul 2008" signs.

So I'll just wait for that, I guess.

Too bad my money will be going to some individual rather than the campaign.

There are some nice looking Rand stickers, signs and stuff on Ebay, Zazzle, Cafepress and places like that.

[libertariantexas]

There are some nice looking Rand stickers sings and stuff on Ebay, Zazzle, Cafepress and places like that.

Yup, I was just looking, and there are tons of GOOD designs out there at Cafepress and others.

I guess my mistake was in thinking the campaign would have it's stuff together.

Plenty of good (and bad, but at least you have a choice) gear here:

http://www.cafepress.com/+rand-paul+t-shirts?page=2

Until it gets here, I guess I'm going to have to tape "Rand" over "Ron" on my old 2012 gear. :)

[alucard13mm]

Maybe he doesnt want people to get confused and think he is ron paul by having the last name.

[asurfaholic]

I was looking for something to plop on my car, truck, work truck, wife's car, , boat, and lawnmower... I'd personally like at least a Rand 2016 or something. Some people have no idea what a Rand is, I'd like to at least plant the idea that he is someone to vote for in election year.

[EBounding]

I thought the same thing as the OP.

[sam1952]

In 2007/2008 did anybody have any doubt what this meant?

https://obamamedia.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/obama-o-logo-blue-gradient-1680x1050.png



I knew exactly what it meant...... DOOM!!!



Why the quote resized it.... dunno

[William Tell]

I knew exactly what it meant.............. DOOM!!!




Humm, why the quote resized it.. dunno

:cool:

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/232/757/199.jpg

[sam1952]

Oh, I tried. The rest of the country was ready for "change" lol

[William Tell]

Oh, I tried. The rest of the country was ready for "change" lol

Me too, just had to post a 'Doom Paul' meme.:p

[libertariantexas]

I knew exactly what it meant...... DOOM!!!



Why the quote resized it.... dunno

Since the Obama sign is already well known, maybe Rand can replace the torch with the Obama thing. Might get some Dems to vote for him!

[idiom]

That logo is going to be very well known.

[garyallen59]

Yeah like I said in another thread I just wish it simply had 2016 under it. I want car magnets but I don't want people to think I'm advertising for a propane company.

They sell a flag for your car window that has it and I think it looks perfect for a magnet or yard sign:

http://i.imgur.com/pso0vVQm.jpg

[whoisjohngalt]

I won't even get into some of the other ridiculous gear (the small percent that is not "RAND and a torch").

Does a Tshirt that says nothing but "Don't Drone Me, Bro" (and nothing else) really help Rand Paul get elected?

Of course it does.

For one thing, the humorous items like that t-shirt are why I've already seen ten pieces just about Rand Paul's store. These articles drive traffic to the store, which obviously helps the campaign.

Secondly, a humorous shirt that plays off a popular internet meme might actually get someone to ask about the shirt and give one an opportunity to talk about Rand. That's much less likely to happen with the sort of apparel you would like to see.

Thirdly, relax.

[Uriah]

If people recognize you by one name that is powerful.

[phill4paul]

Concern troll is concerned.

"It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." Samuel Adams

[andy2044]

That was my first reaction to the logo. At first I thought this logo read "local election." Hell, I preferred my mayor's logo to this one. But it has grown on me. It's not the O, which unfortunately has become the ultimate in all campaign logos no one can beat.

Rand has a unique name that no one else will associate with another person running (like Jeb and Hillary). It's much more informal which helps in the general. We just gotta make that torch known so it can eventually become associated with Rand like the O for Obama.

As long as we, the supporters can make it clear it's not Rand Corp or Any Rand (the latter comparison is always going to happen since it's assumed Ron named him after her).

The first name thing was smart. As soon as he is on the debate floor and blows people away, he'll be able to get away with it and hopefully the torch will work. (It's better than the Romney R, or Ron's A from 2012)

[jurgs01]

That logo is going to be very well known.

If Rand can make that symbol well known then the simple design will be a stroke of genius. The key is the public has to know what it is. I will have it on my car. It is much classier and cooler than most political bumper stickers.

[Paulistinian]

He's carrying his father's torch.

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

Isn't this the logo for the Communist terrorist group called "The Weather Underground"?


In 2007/2008 did anybody have any doubt what this meant?

https://obamamedia.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/obama-o-logo-blue-gradient-1680x1050.png

[Gage]

Side note: Rand always signs books with the phrase "Keep the flame of liberty burning" so I think that is something that was trying to be conveyed.

[libertariantexas]

Of course it does.

For one thing, the humorous items like that t-shirt are why I've already seen ten pieces just about Rand Paul's store. These articles drive traffic to the store, which obviously helps the campaign.

Secondly, a humorous shirt that plays off a popular internet meme might actually get someone to ask about the shirt and give one an opportunity to talk about Rand. That's much less likely to happen with the sort of apparel you would like to see.

Thirdly, relax.

If you see a random person with a "Don't tase me bro" shirt at Walmart, are you really going to strike up a conversation with him that will lead to "Vote for Ran Paul?"

Well, you might, but I suspect the average person who is pretty apolitical would not. Almost certainly not if the person is over 30.

Anyway, I ordered shirts that actually get the point across "Rand Paul for President 2016." That doesn't leave much doubt as to it's meaning.

I just think it might have been better if I'd sent the money to the campaign rather than some entrepreneur on Cafe Press.

Hell, it's okay if he has "Rand (torch symbol)" and even "Don't tase me Bro."

But get some decent stuff that clearly makes the point for those of us who aren't "hipsters" who want vague "Rand (torch symbol)" or "Don't tase me bro" shirts.

People over 30 vote, too...

[CPUd]

Pass out or sell these at the rallies:

http://i.imgur.com/4fVZpQO.jpg


And some tiki torches for the yard.

[TruckinMike]

https://public.libertymutual-cdn.com/insurance-auto-home-life/logos/liberty-mutual-insurance-logo-287x73.gif?version=8AC53D39-CCA5-4B95-8835-3B2AC5923E68

I thought Rand was a liberty mutual insurance salesman....hmm, guess I was wrong.

[eleganz]

If you see a random person with a "Don't tase me bro" shirt at Walmart, are you really going to strike up a conversation with him that will lead to "Vote for Ran Paul?"

Well, you might, but I suspect the average person who is pretty apolitical would not. Almost certainly not if the person is over 30.

Anyway, I ordered shirts that actually get the point across "Rand Paul for President 2016." That doesn't leave much doubt as to it's meaning.

I just think it might have been better if I'd sent the money to the campaign rather than some entrepreneur on Cafe Press.

Hell, it's okay if he has "Rand (torch symbol)" and even "Don't tase me Bro."

But get some decent stuff that clearly makes the point for those of us who aren't "hipsters" who want vague "Rand (torch symbol)" or "Don't tase me bro" shirts.

People over 30 vote, too...

The new wave of marketing is indirect product placement or advertisement. Putting a brand or name in somebody's thoughts without them knowing what is for exactly. Nobody likes to be sold something but familiarity will help.

Why do you think Obama's team, one of the most sophisticated and advanced political teams chose one word, FORWARD and a circular logo for his campaign?

Also, some people don't want to be a walking advertisement and their singular issue might be drones or they might not even be politically active at all, maybe they think "don't drone me bro" is funny and it links them to Rand's message.

The world of advertising and marketing is a fast paced world, don't be left behind here~

[GunnyFreedom]

It probably symbolizes liberty or something like that.

I'm actually weirded out because we are going to have 2 "first names" as top candidates. Hillary and Rand.

as opposed to Hillary v Paul? lol "Rand" actually sounds more surnamish than Paul.

[69360]

I kind of get the idea that his web people are millenials and are hoping that "Rand" goes viral.

Me being older, it just seems kind of odd. I'd prefer a normal "Rand Paul for president 2016" sticker.

[heavenlyboy34]

I kind of get the idea that his web people are millenials and are hoping that "Rand" goes viral.

Me being older, it just seems kind of odd. I'd prefer a normal "Rand Paul for president 2016" sticker.
Okay, I'll bite. Why would the web team target a demographic (millennials) that is quite a bit less likely to vote than older generations? /curious

[GunnyFreedom]

The "Store" on Randpaul.com is full of gear with nothing but the word "Rand" and a flaming torch.

No last name, no mention of President, no mention of 2016.

Am I the only one that thinks that when the average CLUELESS American citizen sees "Rand" and a torch on a Tshirt he is not going to have the first clue as to what the Hell you are advertising?

Looks more like you are endorsing the Olympic hopes of someone or some organization called "Rand." Golly Gee, I sure hope Rand makes the team and brings back the Gold for the USA!

How about something simple, that people can understand like, I don't know, maybe "RAND PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2016?" A little less "branding" and a little more substance, perhaps?

With or without the torch- can anyone tell me what the torch symbolizes?

I love the torch. It signifies liberty. This is my current fedbook avatar

http://glenbradley.net/imghost/torchicon.png

[GunnyFreedom]

I kind of get the idea that his web people are millenials and are hoping that "Rand" goes viral.

Me being older, it just seems kind of odd. I'd prefer a normal "Rand Paul for president 2016" sticker.

It's not just millennials who are influenced by this kind of reductionism. Honestly, I'm a bit weirded out by the yardsigns. I have to imagine the yardsigns on the site are produced CGI because they contain no campaign disclaimers. Nevertheless, symbolic reductionism is nearly as effective on the old as the young, it is simply associated with millennials because of it's burgeoning prevalence as they grow into the plurality of society.

[whoisjohngalt]

Okay, I'll bite. Why would the web team target a demographic (millennials) that is quite a bit less likely to vote than older generations? /curious

They are less likely to be well educated on the issues, less likely to be well educated on the issues, and more likely to be influenced by social cues (voting for someone because their friends are doing it) than older voters. I think it makes pretty good sense.

[whoisjohngalt]

http://www.youthedesigner.com/graphic-design-tips/minimalism-in-the-maximalist-market-study-on-brand-minimalism-by-mehmet-gozetlik/

This project was covered by a lot of different sources and if you read the comments section the second to most minimal brand always is most popular. Probably relevant somehow.

[thechitowncubs]

I don't get how someone has never heard of a torch before. Have you ever seen the Olympics? Have you seen the Statue of Liberty? Probably like a third of political logos have a torch in it too.

Ya what is with the explaining of the symbolism, LOL!

[TruckinMike]

http://www.youthedesigner.com/graphic-design-tips/minimalism-in-the-maximalist-market-study-on-brand-minimalism-by-mehmet-gozetlik/

This project was covered by a lot of different sources and if you read the comments section the second to most minimal brand always is most popular. Probably relevant somehow.

BUT........ Rand doesn't have "Branding" to minimize. This Rand brand swoosh from Nov 14, 2012 was better. Old school design swoosh with classic raised and shaded helvetica font. Clean, legible, effective.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8200/8186651114_96f5c03f93_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/dtqJa9)Rand Paul 2016swooshpres2 (https://flic.kr/p/dtqJa9) by Truckin'Mike (https://www.flickr.com/people/10553040@N02/), on Flickr

[idiom]

On the upside. When he starts his first Illegal war, or goes Bundy Ranch, when can put up witty logos that say LAND with the torch overhead.

Or when he drops his mix tape and its straight dope fire we can have BAND with a torch overhead.

If its not so great the logo can say BLAND with a sad torch.

When you take a selfie with him for FB or Tinder you can put a logo in the corner that says FAN-D

If he wins nomination, the RNC can be at a beach and called SAND with the torch. If we aren't saving it for the war on ISIS. Fuck that would be a good logo, the SAND WAR

If Goldmans Sacks fund him it can read BRAND

If he makes a faux pas about woman we can protest with signs that say GLAND with a torch. And blood. Lots of blood.


And when he says something that confuses 80% of the forum it can say RANDom with lil hand written letters on the end.

[GunnyFreedom]

http://glenbradley.net/imghost/torchwin.png

[fr33]

It is Wyatt's Torch in Ayn Rand's book. :p

[jmdrake]

Pass out or sell these at the rallies:

http://i.imgur.com/4fVZpQO.jpg


And some tiki torches for the yard.

+rep to whoever gets a picture of Matt Collins in a Rand Paul flaming hair wig!

[tennman]

As a marketer, primarily online, for 20 years, I can tell you that it's great they're doing this. It's branding and the torch is perfect! The reason is because people will think of the Statue of Liberty. It's an American icon, tradition and is sentimental to a lot of people. It's non-partisan. It's simply American. It says to people that we've gotten away from what we once were and that liberty is the shinning light. It's also the symbol that the "Libertarian Party" has used (and see the logo at http://www.libertarianboard.com).

It's representative of how a spark gets a fire going and it spreads. It's the torch of liberty and Rand is going to reignite it! I think it's a great logo and, like many symbols that companies and causes use, will become instantly recognizable as the campaign goes on. I think it's a great choice! I'm going to get a shirt!

[phill4paul]

+rep to whoever gets a picture of Matt Collins in a Rand Paul flaming hair wig!

http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/trolldoll.jpg

[65fastback2+2]

It is perfectly fine to use...especially since it is recognizable.

The audience they are working towards already knows "I stand with Rand" or "#StandwithRand", etc. etc.

Using "Rand" is playing off of this.

[RonPaul4Prez2012]

Its pretty obvious who it is that is running. Everybody knows who rand is at this point and there aren't many others named Rand.

Its called marketing and branding. See "Nike" for more ...

[asurfaholic]

+rep to whoever gets a picture of Matt Collins in a Rand Paul flaming hair wig!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/05/article-2304410-191BA1A1000005DC-688_470x423.jpg

[sam1952]

"He's catching on"

[libertyplz]

I won't even get into some of the other ridiculous gear (the small percent that is not "RAND and a torch").

Does a Tshirt that says nothing but "Don't Drone Me, Bro" (and nothing else) really help Rand Paul get elected?

On the entire site, I found only 2 items that say "Rand Paul" on them- a baseball shirt that says "Rand Paul" and nothing else, and an "Eye chart" which was the ONLY thing that actually said "Rand Paul for President."

N

I saw this ad today on one of the articles I was reading, just thought it was funny that it was this exact shirt that you were referring to :p

http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/simgad/1842625038218106788

[William Tell]

I saw this ad today on one of the articles I was reading, just thought it was funny that it was this exact shirt that you were referring to :p

http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/simgad/1842625038218106788

Typo, no toady.:(

:toady:

[The Rebel Poet]

Yup, I was just looking, and there are tons of GOOD designs out there at Cafepress and others.

I guess my mistake was in thinking the campaign would have it's stuff together.

Plenty of good (and bad, but at least you have a choice) gear here:

http://www.cafepress.com/+rand-paul+t-shirts?page=2

Until it gets here, I guess I'm going to have to tape "Rand" over "Ron" on my old 2012 gear. :)

If this is inappropriate a mod can let me know, but FYI, The Rebel Poet (me) has Rand stuff on CafePress (http://www.cafepress.com/execrabledesign/12293578).

Site is still under construction, but I have two three Rand designs uploaded so far.

[William Tell]

http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/trolldoll.jpg

Lolz :D

[NoOneButPaul]

I like it but I would like to see the year 2016 included.