Rassmussen Poll Findings: As Economy Crumbles, Americans Becoming Hostile to Illegal Aliens

[AuH20]

The frog is starting to boil. Now the illegals are a part of the problem, but they aren't the puppetmasters.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-americans-want-illegals-deported-no-citizenship-for-kids-born-in-u.s./article/2562575

Americans don't like competition for tax dollars.


A new Rasmussen Reports survey released Monday also finds Americans questioning spending tax dollars on government aid provided to illegal immigrants. A huge 83 percent said that anybody should be required to prove that they are "legally allowed" to be in the country before receiving local, state or federal government services.

Momentum is building on deportation.



For example, 62 percent told the pollster that the U.S. is "not aggressive enough" in deporting those illegally in the United States. Just 15 percent believed the administration's current policy was "about right" and 16 percent said it was "too aggressive."

That 62 percent number is a jump from a year ago when it was 52 percent.

Ron Paul may have not been out of touch with the American people after all.


When asked if the baby of an illegal born in the United States should automatically become a U.S. citizen, as is now the law, 54 percent said no versus 38 percent who said yes.

In another area that seems to test American patience with the administration, 51 percent said that illegal immigrants who have American born children should not be exempt from deportation.

[Ronin Truth]

DUH!

[Zippyjuan]

On the other hand, the poll also noted:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/immigration/immigration


Still, 54% are concerned that efforts to identify and deport illegal immigrants will also end up violating the civil rights of some U.S. citizens. Forty-three percent (43%) don’t have that concern. This includes 25% who are Very Concerned about possible civil rights violations and 12% who are Not at All Concerned. This, too, is consistent with past surveying.

And it is actually Democrats more concerned about liberties.


But then Democrats are far more concerned than the others that deportation efforts may end up violating the civil rights of some U.S. citizens.

Papers Please!

[Stratovarious]

It's only 83% because 17% polled were illegals .:D


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[muh_roads]

I watched a documentary on netflix that focused on the produce industry. It explained how illegals get paid $40 per day to lug thousands of pounds of tomatoes. A whole bucket fetches them only 1-2 cents each for their labor.

People aren't thinking it thru enough in regards to just how much money they save off the backs of "illegal" labor.

Another reason why they are letting illegals in is because they help fund the SS & medicare system but don't get to take anything out (unless disabled). As for local welfare & 'stamps...I'm not sure.

[Ronin Truth]

I watched a documentary on netflix that focused on the produce industry. It explained how illegals get paid $40 per day to lug thousands of pounds of tomatoes. A whole bucket fetches them only 1-2 cents each for their labor.

People aren't thinking it thru enough in regards to just how much money they save off the backs of "illegal" labor.

Another reason why they are letting illegals in is because they help fund the SS & medicare system but don't get to take anything out (unless disabled). As for local welfare & 'stamps...I'm not sure.

I really don't care how much money I save off the backs of the criminal alien quasi-slave labor.

Send them all home to FIX THEIR OWN DAMNED COUNTRY.

[Stratovarious]

I really don't care how much money I save off the backs of the criminal alien quasi-slave labor.

Send them all home to FIX THEIR OWN DAMNED COUNTRY.

This.....


H###, if they can't show any allegiance to their own country how in the h### can we expect them to respect ours ?


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[AuH20]

I watched a documentary on netflix that focused on the produce industry. It explained how illegals get paid $40 per day to lug thousands of pounds of tomatoes. A whole bucket fetches them only 1-2 cents each for their labor.

People aren't thinking it thru enough in regards to just how much money they save off the backs of "illegal" labor.

Another reason why they are letting illegals in is because they help fund the SS & medicare system but don't get to take anything out (unless disabled). As for local welfare & 'stamps...I'm not sure.

Well, many of these employers dump these manual laborers onto the public system after they physically break down in their late 30s. That's where you and I come in. We're getting milked to death on ER visits, disability and therapy.

[AuH20]

This.....


H###, if they can't show any allegiance to their own country how in the h### can we expect them to respect ours ?

They are simply trying to survive, but we have no responsibility to help them. In a perfect world, where our country would be a free market meritocracy we wouldn't have to worry about the negative consequences of illegal immigration but it isn't.


They are simply trying to survive, but we have no responsibility to help them. Many of these people are not bad people, but they don't culturally fit with the country being in such dire straits. In a perfect world, where our country would be a free market meritocracy, we wouldn't have to worry about the negative consequences of illegal immigration, but it obviously isn't.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

I watched a documentary on netflix that focused on the produce industry. It explained how illegals get paid $40 per day to lug thousands of pounds of tomatoes. A whole bucket fetches them only 1-2 cents each for their labor.

People aren't thinking it thru enough in regards to just how much money they save off the backs of "illegal" labor.

Another reason why they are letting illegals in is because they help fund the SS & medicare system but don't get to take anything out (unless disabled). As for local welfare & 'stamps...I'm not sure.
The destruction of the country's culture and demographics is not worth some saved money. Moreover, illegals aren't the majority of any workforce in the country. Even here in California, most workers are either natives or at least here legally.

[alucard13mm]

Open borders is just part of the plan to make it easier to create the North American Union. It would be easier if Mexico was predominantly mexicans and if USA had a hispanic plurality... Not sure about Canada though. Canada is french/british.

[Stratovarious]

They are simply trying to survive, but we have no responsibility to help them. Many of these people are not bad people, but they don't culturally fit with the country being in such dire straits. In a perfect world, where our country would be a free market meritocracy we wouldn't have to worry about the negative consequences of illegal immigration but it isn't.

I've been declaring from day one, give me a million legal Mexicans a year, send back all illegals regardless origin.
Mexico and most countries put illegals in prisons, piece of ###t Obama pays them cash to break the law and insult America.

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[AuH20]

Open borders is just part of the plan to make it easier to create the North American Union. It would be easier if Mexico was predominantly mexicans and if USA had a hispanic plurality... Not sure about Canada though. Canada is french/british.

As the currency dies, you're going to need an influx of cheap labor to keep wages down. This is economics 101.

[staerker]

Here's the real question:

Would American's rather

a) support government intervention to forcibly remove peaceful human beings, allowing the IRS to continue to rob their fellow man, in order to receive socialistic benefits

b) discontinue socialistic programs

[Feeding the Abscess]

I really don't care how much money I save off the backs of the criminal alien quasi-slave labor.

Send them all home to FIX THEIR OWN DAMNED COUNTRY.

By whose authority and money will you send these people home?

[staerker]

#doubletap

[muh_roads]

I really don't care how much money I save off the backs of the criminal alien quasi-slave labor.

Send them all home to FIX THEIR OWN DAMNED COUNTRY.

Except the US Gov't is responsible for why their country sucks. I prefer to attack NAFTA and the War on Drugs for why ppl seek out an escape. Until those programs are ended, you can't blame ppl for wanting to get the fuck out of there.

It's all a plan and done by design.

[Zippyjuan]

Immigrants are a distraction in the blame game. They aren't the problem.

[AuH20]

Immigrants are a distraction in the blame game. They aren't the problem.

They are the symptoms of the problem. The entitlement state grew..... multiculturalism spread..... the currency was debased.......More and more immigrants came. Countries always start to rot internally from intrinsic flaws and then you will see visible signs of the scavengers. But the scavengers didn't really debilitate the host to begin with. They are just there feeding on the corpse when an opportunity has presented itself.

[Zippyjuan]

They are the symptoms of the problem. The entitlement state grew..... multiculturalism spread..... the currency was debased.......More and more immigrants came. Countries always start to rot internally from intrinsic flaws and then you will see visible signs of the scavengers. But the scavengers didn't really debilitate the host to begin with. They are just there feeding on the corpse when an opportunity has presented itself.

We all came from immigrants. And they too were likely blamed for the problems of their day. Immigrants built the country. (Unless of course you directly descend from Native Americans). As for the welfare system, illegal immigrants are not eligible for federal programs like food stamps, Medicare or Social Security or Obamacare. Yet still the came in search of a better life (isn't that supposed to be the American Dream- what built the country and made it better)? They have lower crime rates and are more likely to have a job than citizens do too. They are three percent of the population and pay taxes but can't even vote yet they are feared somehow that they are ruining the country.

[TheCount]

Immigrants are a distraction in the blame game. They aren't the problem.

They are directly the problem if you hold certain ideals as to what the genetic makeup of the country should be. The blame comes afterward.

[AuH20]

We all came from immigrants. And they too were likely blamed for the problems of their day. Immigrants built the country. (Unless of course you directly descend from Native Americans). As for the welfare system, illegal immigrants are not eligible for federal programs like food stamps, Medicare or Social Security or Obamacare. Yet still the came in search of a better life (isn't that supposed to be the American Dream- what built the country and made it better)? They have lower crime rates and are more likely to have a job than citizens do too. They are three percent of the population and can't even vote yet they are feared somehow that they are ruining the country.

If we didn't have a bloated, corrupt entitlement state & an unsound dollar, we wouldn't need cheap labor from a foreign locale. The entitlement state set the stage for this mass influx. During the Great Depression, white farmers from the Dust Bowl moved west where they took jobs to pick crops and maintain orchards. This country also built real, tangible things at one time as opposed to recklessly creating university debt and trading complex financial instruments. If I had to describe the U.S. in this day and age, it would be a con artist who proudly sells vaporware and who's mansion on the top of the hill has got several liens against it. There is no substance, while it's resting on it's past laurels.

[staerker]

Here's the real question:

Would American's rather

a) support government intervention to forcibly remove peaceful human beings, allowing the IRS to continue to rob their fellow man, in order to receive socialistic benefits

b) discontinue socialistic programs

This one question completely exposes self-proclaimed conservatives.

[AuH20]

This one question completely exposes self-proclaimed conservatives.

The Republican Party adopted New Deal policies starting really with Eisenhower. So it's not exactly a shock.

[Zippyjuan]

If we didn't have a bloated, corrupt entitlement state & a unsound dollar, we wouldn't need cheap labor from a foreign locale. The entitlement state set the stage for this mass influx. During the Great Depression, white farmers from the Dust Bowl moved west where they took jobs to pick crops and maintain orchards. This country also built real, tangible things at one time as opposed to recklessly creating university debt and trading complex financial instruments. If I had to describe the U.S. in this day and age, it would be a con artist who proudly sells vaporware and who's mansion on the top of the hill has got several liens against it. There is no substance, while it's resting on it's past laurels.

The country has always exploited cheap labor. All countries do.

[AuH20]

The country has always exploited cheap labor. All countries do.

especially after they sedate their domestic population with unemployment and disability benefits.

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.npr.org/2014/10/29/359963625/dozens-of-countries-take-in-more-immigrants-per-capita-than-the-u-s
(note that this is discussing all foreign born residents- legal and illegal)


Dozens Of Countries Take In More Immigrants Per Capita Than The U.S.

If you think the United States is every immigrant's dream, reconsider. Sure, in absolute numbers, the U.S. is home to the most foreign-born people — 45.7 million in 2013.

But relatively, it's upper-midpack as an immigrant nation. It ranks 65th worldwide in terms of percentage of population that is foreign-born, according to the U.N. report "Trends in International Migrant Stock."

Whether tax havens and worker-hungry Gulf states, refugee sanctuaries or diverse, thriving economies, a host of nations are more immigrant-dense than the famed American melting pot.

Immigrants make up more than a fourth (27.7 percent) of the land Down Under; two other settler nations, New Zealand and Canada, weigh in with 25.1 and 20.7 percent foreign-born, respectively. That's compared with 14.3 percent in the United States.

While the U.K. remains Australia's largest immigrant source, the nation's Asian population has grown at a steady clip since the 1975 Racial Discrimination Act, which marked the end of the White Australia Policy (yes, it was that blatant). Migrants from India have almost tripled in the past decade, to 337,000, or 1.6 percent of the total population. Chinese and Vietnamese fare prominently in Australia's makeup, too, with 1.8 and 0.9 percent, respectively.

Credit a sunny economic outlook. In August, 121,000 jobs were added, the most in three decades. But highly skilled workers are pretty easy to integrate; refugees, not so much. The growing number of asylum seekers drawn to the country has motivated Australia to outsource its refugee uptake ... to Cambodia. Arguably dangerous, immoral and probably illegal, the program is a clear indication that although Australia is made up heavily of immigrants, it's no utopian melting pot.

More countries and info at link.

[AuH20]

http://www.npr.org/2014/10/29/359963625/dozens-of-countries-take-in-more-immigrants-per-capita-than-the-u-s
(note that this is discussing all foreign born residents- legal and illegal)



More countries and info at link.

Any idea on how many of those countries have birthright citizenship?

[Mach]

It's probably too late to become "hostile" now, can you say, illegally integrated?



https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/04/fred-reed/the-coming-breakup-of-the-united-states/


California now issues driver’s licenses to illegals. The police are not allowed to ask about status of immigration. There is talk of allowing illegals to vote in municipal elections, which will speed Mexicanization. These and similar measures come close to making them citizens of California, while not of America.

The drip-by-drip empowerment of Latinos advances apace. The New York Times: “LOS ANGELES — California is challenging the historic status of American citizenship with measures to permit noncitizens to sit on juries…and to open the practice of law even to those here illegally. It is the leading edge of a national trend that includes granting drivers’ licenses and in-state tuition to illegal immigrants in some states ….”

Yep.

New York ponders a similar law.

Who are these politicians that push these obvious agendas? Time to start "a list."

[cindy25]

I don't think its only or even primarily tax dollars that bothers people. more so jobs, and college admissions. this will be exploited, especially in the primaries.

[cindy25]

Any idea on how many of those countries have birthright citizenship?

only countries I know of are USA, Canada and Australia. most others either never had it (Philippines) or have gotten rid of it (UK, Ireland)

[Weston White]

And it is actually Democrats more concerned about liberties.

Papers Please!

So voluntarily producing state identification when pulled over while driving or applying for government aid, or stating "yes" whenever asked if I am an American or "no" if I am here illegally, and conversing in English is a violation of my civil rights? Well that is news to me.

[VIDEODROME]

I watched a documentary on netflix that focused on the produce industry. It explained how illegals get paid $40 per day to lug thousands of pounds of tomatoes. A whole bucket fetches them only 1-2 cents each for their labor.

People aren't thinking it thru enough in regards to just how much money they save off the backs of "illegal" labor.

Another reason why they are letting illegals in is because they help fund the SS & medicare system but don't get to take anything out (unless disabled). As for local welfare & 'stamps...I'm not sure.

What would happen if we didn't have all these illegals? Would we pay more for these big farms to pick fruits and vegetables to load them on semitrucks? Or might we find out it's easier, better, healthier, and cheaper to grow locally or be supplied by farmers' markets?

There are to many economic variables for me to say for sure that local produce could step up while not being super expensive, and because of diverse climates not every state would be able to do this, but it would be an interesting result to consider.

It would also be nice if we let as many people as possible sell backyard food like apples from their trees or surplus from their gardens. What if we don't need this cheap immigrant labor system to support big agra-business?

[Weston White]

We all came from immigrants. And they too were likely blamed for the problems of their day. Immigrants built the country. (Unless of course you directly descend from Native Americans). As for the welfare system, illegal immigrants are not eligible for federal programs like food stamps, Medicare or Social Security or Obamacare. Yet still the came in search of a better life (isn't that supposed to be the American Dream- what built the country and made it better)? They have lower crime rates and are more likely to have a job than citizens do too. They are three percent of the population and pay taxes but can't even vote yet they are feared somehow that they are ruining the country.

They cannot, at least legally for now, but that does not necessarily mean they are not using false information to do so (e.g., campaign funded voter fraud, which pays illegals, the homeless, uses the deceased, etc. for their votes). Regardless their children can--children who are being raised largely on progressivist beliefs, believing they are a repressed race that cares little of American heritage, instead favoring the morphing of America into an extension of their country of origin--and this is not limited to Mexicans, it further entails those of Asian and Indian descent.

As always you are deceitful:


Americans who are struggling to survive due to high unemployment and low wages may be asking why illegal aliens receive benefits from state and federal governments.

Yes. It is true that illegal aliens have received grants, professional accreditations, loans, WIC, disability, public housing, college educations, food stamps, unemployment benefits, and tax credits from state and federal agencies.

Since children born in the United States are considered U.S. Citizens, it becomes complicated when illegal aliens then bear children who are U.S. Citizens.

If the U.S. government sent the parents of these children away, we would be separating families. Now that these families have given birth to U.S. citizens, the families are eligible for benefits such as WIC and food stamps. Benefits such as these are for low income families. Illegal aliens often work in low paying jobs so they now qualify for benefits.

Once illegal immigrants arrive, they buy forged documents saying they are U.S. citizens.

Why is it that Illegal Aliens Get Free Food Stamps, Health Insurance and Pay No Taxes? (http://thelawdictionary.org/article/why-is-it-that-illegal-aliens-get-free-food-stamps-health-insurance-and-pay-no-taxes/)

[thoughtomator]

Throw all the immigrants out. Tired of arguing the case when the negative effects of immigration are so overwhelming and obvious.

[TheCount]

Throw all the immigrants out. Tired of arguing the case when the negative effects of immigration are so overwhelming and obvious.

How do you propose to deport 300 million people?

[Dianne]

Do you think it is because the illegals come here and get free housing, free medical care, free unemployment benefits, free ss disability without ever paying a dime into the system, also food stamps on the back of those who have worked their lives with none of those benefits? It's about time people get angry and put down their $1.00 McDonald's burger and get pretty pissed at why they can't eat a $2.00 McDonalds burger when the illegals get free Combo's.

[Zippyjuan]

Illegals get free combo meals at McDonalds? Do I need to show my "Illegal Immigrant" card to get one?

[Stratovarious]

Do you think it is because the illegals come here and get free housing, free medical care, free unemployment benefits, free ss disability without ever paying a dime into the system, also food stamps on the back of those who have worked their lives with none of those benefits? It's about time people get angry and put down their $1.00 McDonald's burger and get pretty pissed at why they can't eat a $2.00 McDonalds burger when the illegals get free Combo's.

I don't spend much time at Mc Donalds, are you guys serious about this ? Is this really a policy at Mc Donalds ?

[oyarde]

Birthright citizenship may not be a big deal if one parent is a citizen as I imagine it was intended to be .Basically , I think of it as a free market debate .Business is not the business of the govt. , business is the business of the people. Welfare is not the business of the govt , but the charitable contributions of the people , locally . End all that bullshit and it sorts itself out .No food stamps , no WIC , etc none of that crap . If there are people here , they need to support themselves .Same as I would have to do , and have ,living in a foreign land . One dollar out of my wallet to feed others against my will is stealing from my family. That is immoral. Immorality such as that will eventually bring bad things.