UN Climate Official: “We Should Make Every Effort” To Decrease World Population

[Suzanimal]

I say we start with the Figueres family...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=16&v=xFGksEgSwk8


Climate One founder Greg Dalton and the Executive Secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCC) Christiana Figueres, held a discussion in 2013 on the role of women in fighting Global Warming.

During the interview Secretary Figueres stated, We should should “make every effort,” to reduce the world’s population in an effort to fight Climate Change:

DALTON: A related issue is fertility rates in population. A lot of people in energy and environmental circles don’t wanna go near that because it’s politically charged. It’s not their issue. But isn’t it true that stopping the rise of the population would be one of the biggest levers and driving the rise of green house gases?

FIGUERES: I mean we all know that we expect nine billion, right, by 2050. So, yes, obviously less people would exert less pressure on the natural resources.

DALTON: So is nine billion a forgone conclusion? That’s like baked in, done, no way to change that?

FIGUERES: Well there again, there is pressure in the system to go toward that; we can definitely change those, right? We can definitely change those numbers and really should make every effort to change those numbers because we are already, today, already exceeding the planet’s planetary carrying capacity, today. To say nothing of adding more population that is really going to overextend our capacity. So yes we should do everything possible. But we cannot fall into the very simplistic opinion of saying just by curtailing population then we’ve solved the problem. It is not either/or, it is an and/also.

http://www.progressivestoday.com/un-climate-official-we-should-make-every-effort-to-decrease-world-population-video/

[Anti Federalist]

Told ya so.

[Sam I am]

and of course, the only way to possibly decrease the global population is to just kill a bunch of people

Well... you can also try and convince people to use birth control, and you can stop subsidizing people who have more children than they can afford, but who want's to do that stuff?

[jllundqu]

And how, pray tell, does this elitist plan to lower population? Lemme guess:

First will come "education about family planning" which won't work.
THen will come voluntary sterilizations...
Then will come INvoluntary sterilzations...
Then will come more one (zero?) child policies...
and when all those don't work, then the true purpose of her malthusian nightmare will be apparent...

They will eradicate masses of people in a great culling.... for the planet of course.

[Anti Federalist]

and of course, the only way to possibly decrease the global population is to just kill a bunch of people

Well... you can also try and convince people to use birth control, and you can stop subsidizing people who have more children than they can afford, but who want's to do that stuff?

You know what the fastest way to reduce population, outside of death camps and forced sterilization measures, is?

Free market wealth creation.

[Anti Federalist]

http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2015/04/06/8f0299d7-333c-4ffc-9c2a-af4f2afd87e1/crop/620x278+0+35/0f1d162199e0aa95c38ce8935cd53018/screen-shot-2015-04-06-at-2-41-03-pm.png

Percentage of people who think global warming is caused by man.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/these-states-are-least-concerned-about-global-warming/

When it comes to being in favor of controlling somebody else, it's always the usual suspects.

[Henry Rogue]

Climate hysteria looks more like eugenics every day.

[PRB]

You know what the fastest way to reduce population, outside of death camps and forced sterilization measures, is?

Free market wealth creation.

Wealth creation reduces population?

[PRB]

Percentage of people who think global warming is caused by man.
.

What is it caused by? And is that theory tested to be higher in accuracy of predictions?

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

What is it caused by?

It's caused by hot air from Democrats like you.

[donnay]

Respiratory issues from cooking on an open fire...hmm...not by using pans coated with Teflon like western women have used for years or using synthetic oils that smoke, that they breath in, to cook foods in that the government says it is safe to use?

These people are pathetic.

Of course the UN as well as the US government have played both sides against the middle on this one. Over population is a huge scam but the fact is, they cannot control the people, so they need to cull much of the population to do that.

Wars help.
Vaccines help.
Pharmaceuticals help.
Introducing GMO's to the tables help.

I am pretty sick of the eugenics brainwashing!

[Stratovarious]

I've also been saying since day one of Al Gore's hockey puck bull #### scam , he wants a Global Tax on Breathing, his (stock) interest in the
Global Collection fraud would make him billions if not trillions.
Then he would probably join Bill Gates and social engineer humans out of existence.

This is not far fetched from what they eventually will draw up:
Your allotment is 24 thousand breaths a day we'll charge you a meager 3 cents per thousand = 72 cents a day, go over and it's 14 cents
per breath.
If you fail to pay your Tax on breathing we put you in controlled carbon footprint prison , breath too much there we cut you down
from 21% to 16% oxygen, continue your infractions, we cut you down to 5% until death do you part.....:hammer::hammer:

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[Anti Federalist]

Wealth creation reduces population?

Of course it does.

Pull up some stats on a nation as it goes from "third world" to "first world" status.

As median income increases, childbirth decreases.

[thoughtomator]

Climate hysteria looks more like eugenics every day.

It was never anything but.

[Anti Federalist]

What is it caused by? And is that theory tested to be higher in accuracy of predictions?

Assuming our short term numbers are correct, and that there is long term climate change happening, it's caused by what has caused it before for billions of years:

Variation in solar output.

Which is why my home, in a temperate climate, was under 100 feet of ice 100,000 years ago, and a tropical oceanfront a million years ago.

[PRB]

Assuming our short term numbers are correct, and that there is long term climate change happening, it's caused by what has caused it before for billions of years:

Variation in solar output.

Which is why my home, in a temperate climate, was under 100 feet of ice 100,000 years ago, and a tropical oceanfront a million years ago.

Again, is this theory tested to be more accurate at predicting climate patterns, hurricanes, droughts, floods, blizzards and extreme conditions for the first world countries in the past 10 years and next 10 years?

I'm not asking you what happened 100,000 years ago or 100,000 years from now, you didn't buy your house based on what you expect in more than 1000 years, so it's irrelevant.

[PRB]

Of course it does.

Pull up some stats on a nation as it goes from "third world" to "first world" status.

As median income increases, childbirth decreases.

you mean those numbers aren't made up by the UN? you mean decreasing population is fine as long as it's the result of increasing standards of living and more freedom?

[dannno]

Wealth creation reduces population?

Free market wealth creation does not create unsustainable systems by nature.

[AuH20]

You know what the fastest way to reduce population, outside of death camps and forced sterilization measures, is?

Free market wealth creation.

Elite plutocrats create 'cradle to the grave' welfare programs that greatly increase the number of useless eaters and then have the gall to complain about the useless eaters? :confused:

[PaulConventionWV]

Great idea, Figueres! You first...

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

...you didn't buy your house based on what you expect in more than 1000 years, so it's irrelevant.

You said you would buy or not buy your house right on a river based on climate change theory.

Pretty much tells me you have no common sense or understanding of much.

[DamianTV]

The real solution is to make every reasonable effort to decrease the population of the UN, and those who dictate to others how to live.

[Ronin Truth]

Let's decrease the world population of UN Climate Officials, by 100%.

[PRB]

You said you would buy or not buy your house right on a river based on climate change theory.

Pretty much tells me you have no common sense or understanding of much.

You're saying if you can predict a river would dry up and never replenish for 30 years, you wouldn't change your mind about living near a river?

Do Katrina and Sandy victims lack common sense? Are they deserving of what they got?

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

You're saying if you can predict a river would dry up and never replenish for 30 years, you wouldn't change your mind about living near a river?




LOL.

[jonhowe]

Climate change aside, is she wrong? Can we really keep up with the population growing at the rate it is without destroying the planets renewable resources (overfishing or over logging, for example)?

[Christopher A. Brown]

http://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2015/04/06/8f0299d7-333c-4ffc-9c2a-af4f2afd87e1/crop/620x278+0+35/0f1d162199e0aa95c38ce8935cd53018/screen-shot-2015-04-06-at-2-41-03-pm.png

Percentage of people who think global warming is caused by man.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/these-states-are-least-concerned-about-global-warming/

When it comes to being in favor of controlling somebody else, it's always the usual suspects.

Of course if someone files a lawsuit to help people control themselves, and is deprived of justice, that's another matter.

If historical incentive for over population is examined it comes to the church mandating it. That took over America at the end of the civil war with the act of 1871 infiltrating the nation from the upper end downwards.

Now the latest crop of politicians pushing empire priorities are working up to the need for control over the problem created.
Clearly it was a scam to push society over the edge and induce chaos.

Since Americans are too distracted from their options for freedoms to agree and alter or abolish, the infiltration may get their way.

BTW, in case no one has figured it out, global warming is not the real threat, toxicity is, but industrialization cannot continue if that is addressed.

[donnay]

Climate change aside, is she wrong? Can we really keep up with the population growing at the rate it is without destroying the planets renewable resources (overfishing or over logging, for example)?

Yes she is wrong, dead wrong. The population is only a problem to those who want to control it.

[thoughtomator]

Climate change aside, is she wrong? Can we really keep up with the population growing at the rate it is without destroying the planets renewable resources (overfishing or over logging, for example)?

if we get off this planet - which we pretty much already have the technology to do - we can keep growing indefinitely

there are other possibilities as well that don't require mass culling

[Danke]

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/021015-738779-climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism.htm#ixzz3WXU4a9ho

[Suzanimal]

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/021015-738779-climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism.htm#ixzz3WXU4a9ho

From Danke's link...


At a news conference last week in Brussels, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.'s Framework Convention on Climate Change, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism.

"This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution," she said.

Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris climate change conference later this year, she added: "This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history."


Read More At Investor's Business Daily: http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/021015-738779-climate-change-scare-tool-to-destroy-capitalism.htm#ixzz3WapumEBx

[Marenco]

How about leading by example then, Figueres?

Or....

http://meetville.com/images/quotes/Quotation-Confucius-desire-yourself-Meetville-Quotes-111155.jpg

[PRB]

Climate change aside, is she wrong? Can we really keep up with the population growing at the rate it is without destroying the planets renewable resources (overfishing or over logging, for example)?

you clearly never took Liberty 101.

So let me spell out each important chapter for you.

1. Humans are never wrong (except liberals, they're always wrong)
2. Population is not out of control, only Fascists and NWO want control of population
3. God made this Earth for humans, anybody who disagrees is a pinko communist who wants to destroy property and freedom
4. There's no such thing as un-renewable resource, that's a Marxist term to justify rationing and taxation
5. Everything would be fine if we just had less government and more freedom
6. FACT: the more freedom a country has, the better the environment is just see India & Taiwan vs Norway & Canada.
7. "overfishing" is another made up term that only statists would use, there is no limit to fish, God made the oceans for humans to eat fish, why else does fish taste so good?
8. If you disagree, you're a UN Agenda 21 advocate that wants to put us all in FEMA camps. If you love freedom, you have to deny that humans are ever a problem to the planet.
9. All the humans in the world can fit nicely into Texas, so there's never such a thing as "overpopulation".
10. Humans are incapable of overdoing anything, proof is in our incompetent government
11. Anybody who thinks resources are being used up have bought into the Federal Reserve lie. If there was no central bank printing fiat money, we'd have all the resource as virtually no cost, and nobody would starve. We know this because life was perfect for everybody in every country before 1913. Federal Reserve is the greatest sin since fall of Adam.

[Noob]

Those who truly support that only have one thing to do. There are lots of ways for them to do that one thing, such as with a razer blade,or a sharp knife, gun and one bullet, hanging themselves.

[pcosmar]

Climate hysteria looks more like eugenics every day.

And we have already seen what that looks like.

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/5193c946e4b0566afb22a10e/t/543d6475e4b07d697ef39bbb/1413309557638/

[Stratovarious]

you clearly never took Liberty 101.

So let me spell out each important chapter for you.

1. Humans are never wrong (except liberals, they're always wrong)
2. Population is not out of control, only Fascists and NWO want control of population
3. God made this Earth for humans, anybody who disagrees is a pinko communist who wants to destroy property and freedom
4. There's no such thing as un-renewable resource, that's a Marxist term to justify rationing and taxation
5. Everything would be fine if we just had less government and more freedom
6. FACT: the more freedom a country has, the better the environment is just see India & Taiwan vs Norway & Canada.
7. "overfishing" is another made up term that only statists would use, there is no limit to fish, God made the oceans for humans to eat fish, why else does fish taste so good?
8. If you disagree, you're a UN Agenda 21 advocate that wants to put us all in FEMA camps. If you love freedom, you have to deny that humans are ever a problem to the planet.
9. All the humans in the world can fit nicely into Texas, so there's never such a thing as "overpopulation".
10. Humans are incapable of overdoing anything, proof is in our incompetent government
11. Anybody who thinks resources are being used up have bought into the Federal Reserve lie. If there was no central bank printing fiat money, we'd have all the resource as virtually no cost, and nobody would starve. We know this because life was perfect for everybody in every country before 1913. Federal Reserve is the greatest sin since fall of Adam.

Pretty much nailed it , except for #3.

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[pcosmar]

Killing off Humans to control the climate makes about as much sense as throwing virgins in volcanoes.

[Noob]

Killing off Humans to control the climate makes about as much sense as throwing virgins in volcanoes.

Both be seen as human sacrifices to Gaia the Mother Earth goddess for the green religion.

[paleocon1]

.......................

Variation in solar output.

Which is why my home, in a temperate climate, was under 100 feet of ice 100,000 years ago, and a tropical oceanfront a million years ago.


More likely a polar shift.

[oyarde]

From Danke's link...

You see why I hate these people ?

[JohnM]

Secretary Figueres stated, We should should “make every effort,” to reduce the world’s population

So I guess she's going to be nominating George W Bush for the Nobel Peace Prize for his useful contribution in the Middle East.

[Stratovarious]

So I guess she's going to be nominating George W Bush for the Nobel Peace Prize for his useful contribution in the Middle East.

Mission:

Reduce Iraq's population by 4% in less than 8 years.



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[PRB]

More likely a polar shift.

is that theory tested and proven to have a higher accuracy in predicting climate patterns than those who accept the prevailing AGW theory?

[Ronin Truth]

"Every effort" sure seems a bit drastic. Has the author considered eliminating himself and his bloodline?

[Anti Federalist]

you mean those numbers aren't made up by the UN? you mean decreasing population is fine as long as it's the result of increasing standards of living and more freedom?

Both increasing and decreasing population levels come with their own set of issues.

I don't really care, as long as the decisions, to have or not have children, are freely arrived at by consenting people.

[Anti Federalist]

My house is high and dry on a hill, and not in a flood zone, hurricane zone, tornado zone, earthquake zone or wildfire zone.

Blizzards? That I got, and, surprise, every year get through with minimal difficulty.

Weather and climate change alarmists are spun up and out of control.

I don't see these "extreme conditions".


Again, is this theory tested to be more accurate at predicting climate patterns, hurricanes, droughts, floods, blizzards and extreme conditions for the first world countries in the past 10 years and next 10 years?

I'm not asking you what happened 100,000 years ago or 100,000 years from now, you didn't buy your house based on what you expect in more than 1000 years, so it's irrelevant.

[PRB]

My house is high and dry on a hill, and not in a flood zone, hurricane zone, tornado zone, earthquake zone or wildfire zone.

Blizzards? That I got, and, surprise, every year get through with minimal difficulty.

Weather and climate change alarmists are spun up and out of control.

I don't see these "extreme conditions".

And I don't see government in my backyard, so government alarmists are full of shit, right?

[PRB]

Both increasing and decreasing population levels come with their own set of issues.

I don't really care, as long as the decisions, to have or not have children, are freely arrived at by consenting people.

What are the issues of each? I just want to know, because whenever I say the same thing I'm told I'm pro-regulation or brainwashed by the NWO Agenda 21ers.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I just want to know, because whenever I say the same thing I'm told I'm pro-regulation or brainwashed by the NWO Agenda 21ers.


People say that about you because you have been caught lying on this forum. Instead of bowing out, you continue to be a fool.

You even say yourself that you're a troll, but then play dumb in the very next thread:



I am here to belittle people.


I may be a troll, but I'm not flooding.


Everybody else says it too. Even the mods:


I can tell PRB is a troll juat by how vitriolic he is. How he gets pleasure from attacking someone...On top of everything PRB simply lies.



PRB's trolling...



I was going to say eduardo or someone in the religion forum has made dumber troll threads, but I reckon you're right now that I think about it.

This wins for dumbest troll thread ever.

It's a silly brand of trolling.


Worst troll attempt in a while.. Merry Christmas op.

(Tool)

I guess it's too bad you weren't around to troll the authors of that document with that question. The mirth you would have created.....

Troll thread??


Trolls gotta troll.





No Internet trolls back then...






My you are a soulless troll, aren't you?

[PRB]

People say that about you because you have been caught lying on this forum. Instead of bowing out, you continue to be a fool.


What did I lie about? Not telling you about my guns?



You even say yourself that you're a troll, but then play dumb in the very next thread:


trolling once makes you a troll forever? being a troll makes you a liar?

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

What did I lie about? Not telling you about my guns?



trolling once makes you a troll forever? being a troll makes you a liar?



Do you lie in real life too, or just on the internet where it won't matter as much?

[enhanced_deficit]

Things starting to make sense now.

Henry Kissinger Quotes On Depopulation And …
Dec 5, 2013 - “World population needs to be decreased by 50%”. – Henry Kissinger.


Syria death toll now exceeds 210,000
www.reuters.com/.../us-mideast-crisis-toll-idUSKBN0LB0DY201...Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/.../us-mideast-crisis-toll-idUSKBN0LB0DY201...Reuters)
Feb 7, 2015 - AMMAN (Reuters) - The death toll after nearly four years of civil war in Syria has risen to 210,060, nearly half of them civilians, but the real figure is probably much higher, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said on Saturday.


Henry Kissinger tells Christiane Amanpour: 'I support President Obama' on Syria (http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/09/henry-kissinger-tells-cnns-christiane-amanpour-i-support-president-obama-on-syria/)

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Henry+Kissinger+Obama+Biden+Meet+Congressional+-4LQGB2_3c1l.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zimbio.com%2Fphotos%2FHenry%2 BKissinger%2FObama%2BBiden%2BMeet%2BCongressional% 2BDemocratic%2F-4LQGB2_3c1&ei=OfwNVYWODIeqgwTVkYGAAg&bvm=bv.88528373,d.eXY&psig=AFQjCNFUBBbNN7k0oJ4isn3_oEYWatH-AQ&ust=1427066293415217)

Obama's $195 Million Aid Package for Al Qaeda-Led Syrian Rebels (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/08/obamas-195-million-aid-package-for-al-qaeda-led-syrian-rebels-latest-move-against-assad-but-whats-the-end-game/)
www.theblaze.com/.../obamas-195-million-aid-package-for-al-qaeda-led...‎ (http://www.theblaze.com/.../obamas-195-million-aid-package-for-al-qaeda-led...%E2%80%8E)
Aug 8, 2013 - President Barack Obama's announcement of an additional $195 million in humanitarian and food aid to Syrian rebels came a day after Al ...

Obama Waives Ban on Arming Terrorists to Aid Syrian Rebels (http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2013/09/17/obama-waives-ban-on-arming-terrorists-to-aid-syrian-rebels/)
3 days ago - When I first highlighted the fact that the rebels in Syria had large al-Qaeda elements to it back in December of last year, most people thought it ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu-puE


http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/President+Obama+Awards+Presidential+Medals+W8VfdBK 6ggvl.jpghttp://fair.org/images/msnbc-kissinger2.jpg


#SWCbags , #dDGbags , #disgracegbags

[Suzanimal]

Things starting to make sense now.

Henry Kissinger Quotes On Depopulation And …
Dec 5, 2013 - “World population needs to be decreased by 50%”. – Henry Kissinger.


http://i.imgur.com/1bNBInR.png

[Stratovarious]

http://i.imgur.com/1bNBInR.png

I thought this was satire, and really good satire.....:cry:cry:

I found him dancing around but being very direct in principle about the new world order he endorses...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMVrxgvR_Xw

Disturbing , to think he is respected by some, respected by any.....


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[Anti Federalist]

And I don't see government in my backyard, so government alarmists are full of shit, right?

You got a patch of wet ground in your backyard?

Guess what, you got the UN and government there.

You just don't know it yet.

[Anti Federalist]

What are the issues of each? I just want to know, because whenever I say the same thing I'm told I'm pro-regulation or brainwashed by the NWO Agenda 21ers.

Biggest risk with increasing population?

Increased rules, laws and regulations. The more people you have on top of each other, the more bitchy they get.

Biggest risk of decreaing population?

Bolshevik revolution caused by the collapse of government "safety nets" due to there not being enough worker bees for government to order about.

[Anti Federalist]

What are the issues of each? I just want to know, because whenever I say the same thing I'm told I'm pro-regulation or brainwashed by the NWO Agenda 21ers.

Biggest risk with increasing population?

Increased rules, laws and regulations. The more people you have on top of each other, the more bitchy they get.

Biggest risk of decreaing population?

Bolshevik revolution caused by the collapse of government "safety nets" due to there not being enough worker bees for government to order about.

[PRB]

Do you lie in real life too, or just on the internet where it won't matter as much?

I lie as much as you molest children.

[donnay]

http://i.imgur.com/1bNBInR.png


Henry Kissinger declared in the 1970’s, ‘If you control the oil you control the country; if you control food, you control the population."

[erowe1]

If we don't reduce the world's population a lot of people will die.

[Danke]

If we don't reduce the world's population a lot of people will die.

Yogi? That you?


"You should always go to other people's funerals; otherwise, they won't come to yours."

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I lie as much as you molest children.


Neg rep. Lying.

[erowe1]

Neg rep. Lying.

Do you realize that would mean that you molested children more than PRB lied?

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Do you realize that would mean that you molested children more than PRB lied?

Only if his statement were true. He already acknowledged he has prosecutor friends. I'm wondering if he flunked out of law school or got disbarred/suspended. He already told me that his job is sitting in front of a computer all day and he waits for calls to come in. Who knows. Guy is pathological in his own framework.

[PRB]

Only if his statement were true. He already acknowledged he has prosecutor friends. I'm wondering if he flunked out of law school or got disbarred/suspended. He already told me that his job is sitting in front of a computer all day and he waits for calls to come in. Who knows. Guy is pathological in his own framework.

I apologize for having friends in various professions and not having a blue collar job. You already told me you molest children, and I have a million excuses not to post proof of that. Keep denying and neg repping because that's all you're good for.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I apologize for having friends in various professions and not having a blue collar job. You already told me you molest children, and I have a million excuses not to post proof of that. Keep denying and neg repping because that's all you're good for.

I told you to turn me in.

[PRB]

I told you to turn me in.

I don't believe in using the government, and I don't know your real name, where you live...etc. Also, I'm telling you to run to mods for me, you said you wouldn't. So there, I gave you my excuses for not reporting you to the government I hate.

We can keep playing this retarded game, or we can have respectful disagreements about how there's more than one way to skin a cat, like we did here.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?471873-Pro-Religious-Freedom-Act-Indiana-pizzeria-that-closed-after-threats-gets-130K-in-support&p=5833000&viewfull=1#post5833000

it's up to you, I never wanted to fight with you, you're the one who keeps calling me a liar and paid shill and Jew and Democrat and other nasty things.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

We can keep playing this retarded game, or we can have respectful disagreements...

"Respectful disagreements." From the user who acknowledged he likes to belittle people here. :rolleyes:




it's up to you, I never wanted to fight with you,

No, it's actually up to you. You want to keep playing your games here, but whine when someone gives it right back to you.



you're the one who keeps calling me a liar and paid shill and Jew and Democrat and other nasty things.

If someone does not want to be called a liar, then the solution is simple. Stop lying.

Not sure why a Jew is nasty.

[Stratovarious]

If Al Gore would move his carbon footprint to another planet, world population could safely increase by 6%.


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[PRB]

"Respectful disagreements." From the user who acknowledged he likes to belittle people here. :rolleyes:


You managed to engage in one, was I disrespectful? And I never said I am here only to belittle people and/or everybody.



No, it's actually up to you. You want to keep playing your games here, but whine when someone gives it right back to you.


What game am I playing with you, or what did I even reply to you when you're not calling me a liar, liberal, Democrat, Jew, paid shill?



If someone does not want to be called a liar, then the solution is simple. Stop lying.


Ok then, so stop molesting children if you want me to stop saying you do and did. What's the most recent lie I made?



Not sure why a Jew is nasty.
Jews killed Christ and they continue to deny Jesus is the Savior of mankind.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Jews killed Christ and they continue to deny Jesus is the Savior of mankind.


Nice try, atheist. Been back to the religion sub-forum to mock Catholics any more, or were you banned from there?

[erowe1]

Only if his statement were true.

No. It's the opposite. If his statement were a lie, like you said it was, that would mean that you had molested children more than he had lied.

Now he's going to be able to cite you as his source.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

No. It's the opposite. If his statement were a lie, like you said it was, that would mean that you had molested children more than he had lied.

Now he's going to be able to cite you as his source.



If someone is a liar, then it's possible that nothing they say has merit.

And your entire post is :rolleyes:

[erowe1]

If someone is a liar, then it's possible that nothing they say has merit.

And your entire post is :rolleyes:

I'm trying to help you here.

Here's what PRB said:

I [PRB] lie as much as you [NCL] molest children.

If that statement is a lie, then the truth would be:

I [PRB] do not lie as much as you [NCL] molest children.

This could only mean that you molested children more than he lied. It would not be possible for this number of children to be lower than 1. And really, given that everybody has lied at least hundreds of times, the real implication would be much worse.

In order for your number of victims to be zero, which I assume is what you want to say, his statement, which you said was a lie, would actually have to be true.

[PaulConventionWV]

Climate change aside, is she wrong? Can we really keep up with the population growing at the rate it is without destroying the planets renewable resources (overfishing or over logging, for example)?

I'm not convinced that it's still growing at an increasing rate. From what I've heard, it's starting to level off on its own.

[PaulConventionWV]

You know, maybe things would just go easier and we would get less thread derailments if we all just ignored PRB. The only ones I see arguing with him are the ones who want to expose him as a troll.

[PaulConventionWV]

http://i.imgur.com/1bNBInR.png

That woman is scary to look at. *shudders*

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I'm trying to help you here.




Hmm; I was just saying that his two statement elements are not contingent upon one another. What did I miss? Maybe I need Perry Mason. :confused:




You know, maybe things would just go easier and we would get less thread derailments if we all just ignored PRB. The only ones I see arguing with him are the ones who want to expose him as a troll.


I would support ignoring the trolling on this forum, but realistically, that is not going to happen. Someone will engage PRB, ZippyJuan, etc. because PRB or ZippyJuan will engage that person first. A LOT of people (for various reasons) don't know that ZippyJuan, PRB, TheCount, MaybeMaybeNot, Sam I Am, etc. are trolling. I just point it out. I actually get a good deal of plus reps from a lot of people here when I do point it out. The + reps include messages citing how people don't like them, people who also neg them, etc. If people here really did not care, then I would not bother either.

I think it's fairly obvious that they are here trying to influence the message. I would guess that some people in their organization would probably not mind if the site shut down. I would not be surprised if that is their stated goal. Call it trolling or whatever you like. Their intention here is diametrically opposed to the mission of this site. I am fairly convinced they are Jewish Democrats. This has been discussed in various threads, including organizations like the National Jewish Democratic Council being "very alarmed" and "very concerned" about a Paul candidacy. If that is the case, then academic debate is obviously not their goal. No problem debating them, but I don't think they should get away with blatantly misrepresenting themselves (blatantly lying) under the guise of debate. They're not here to "win" a debate. They are trying to keep the membership from swelling. I think that is far more important that just a common exchange. That is a lesson in-and-of-itself.

I just ask members here not to forget who is the instigator. It's these people posting second in a thread, engaging people in smart aleck ways, etc. I can see them getting a little annoyed because they did not expect to be given a hard time. Every time they're exposed, it could be one more person who knows and stays on the site instead of leaving. I still maintain that their goal is to keep membership down on this site. Now that Rand Paul is running, these people will be coming out of the woodwork.

Also, everybody is still free to pass over any posts they don't want to read. I actually do make a lot of posts still debating the trolling people. I actually encourage people to save their energies by not getting mad at one another. We all have the same general goal. I really have no beef with the legit members here. I debate regular members less and less here because, by and large, those people are still my friends. If you're going to expend a lot of energy, then I say give it to the people who have bad intentions for liberty. You have some real enemies of liberty here. I say sock it to them and thwart their nasty goal.

[Stratovarious]

If we don't reduce the world's population a lot of people will die.

If we don't reduce Government (tyranny), a lot of people will die.

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