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green73
04-06-2015, 09:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=79&v=xkX-UybXo_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=79&v=xkX-UybXo_I


A new report by ThinkProgress.com unearthed disturbing figures when it came to the number of police-related deaths that occurred in America in the month of March alone.

Just last month, in the 31 days of March, police in the United States killed more people than the UK did in the entire 20th century. In fact, it was twice as many; police in the UK only killed 52 people during that 100 year period.

According to the report by ThinkProgess, in March alone, 111 people (http://www.killedbypolice.net/) died during police encounters — 36 more than the previous month (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/02/27/3627925/use-of-force-incidents-february/). As in the past, numerous incidents were spurred by violent threats from suspects, and two officers were shot in Ferguson (http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/16/us/ferguson-police-shot-arrest/) during a peaceful protest. However, the deaths follow a national pattern: suspects were mostly people of color, mentally ill, or both.

This high number in March increased the average for police killings from every 8.5 hours, to nearly 1 police killing every 6.5 hours in the US.
These numbers are staggering and show a serious problem of the violent tendencies within the US policing apparatus.

Let’s look at our immediate neighbors to the north, Canada. The total number of citizens killed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_Ca nada) by law enforcement officers in the year 2014, was 14; that is 78 times fewer people than the US.

From 2010 through 2014, there were four fatal police shootings in England, which has a population of about 52 million. By contrast, Albuquerque, N.M., with a population 1 percent the size of England’s, had 26 fatal police shootings in that same time period.

China, whose population is 4 and 1/2 times the size of the United States, recorded 12 killings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_Ch ina) by law enforcement officers in 2014.

On average, US police kill people at a rate 70 times higher (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/) than any of the other first world countries as they “protect and serve” the American citizens.

So much for the Land of the Free…..

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/american-cops-killed-people-month-march-uk-entire-20th-century/

Ronin Truth
04-06-2015, 09:47 AM
We have a much larger population, and a whole bunch more armed bad guys.

Christopher A. Brown
04-06-2015, 10:09 AM
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/american-cops-killed-people-month-march-uk-entire-20th-century/

Is this more whining sniveling and complaining? Or is it an effort to provide reason to "alter or abolish" government destructive to our unalienable rights?

If the latter, people need to go to this thread and take the first, very easy steps to unity in America.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?471555-A-lawful-and-peaceful-revolution

Suzanimal
04-06-2015, 10:15 AM
We have a much larger population, and a whole bunch more armed bad guys.


China, whose population is 4 and 1/2 times the size of the United States, recorded 12 killings by law enforcement officers in 2014.


I'd wager the US numbers are higher than the Think Progress estimates.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/mar/18/police-killings-government-data-count

fisharmor
04-06-2015, 10:18 AM
To be fair comparison, I'd want numbers on how many Chinese political dissidents were executed in a forced labor camp and turned into displays for a Bodies exhibit.

presence
04-06-2015, 10:22 AM
On average, US police kill people at a rate 70 times higher (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/)
than any of the other first world countries
as they “protect and serve” the American citizens.

70X.

Ronin Truth
04-06-2015, 10:50 AM
"Protect and serve" is just pure BS PR and propaganda. Their job is actually only LAW ENFORCEMENT.

Anti Federalist
04-06-2015, 12:51 PM
58 times...

acptulsa
04-06-2015, 01:05 PM
We have a much larger population, and a whole bunch more armed bad guys.

Well, let's see. There are 1200 months in a century. Does the U.S. today have 1200 times as many citizens as the United Kingdom did in 1900?

Why, no. Nowhere near.

JohnM
04-06-2015, 02:57 PM
Thanks for posting that, green73.

I've been listening to a lot of episodes of the Tom Woods show recently, and have been absolutely shocked by what I have heard about trigger happy cops killing people who are totally innocent.

I have lived in the UK since 1982, and what has struck me about the stories I'm hearing is that what is happening in the USA bears no resemblance to my experience here in Britain.

I don't know what the UK is doing right.

My only suggestion is the fact that over here there is a very strong historical and cultural reluctance to arm police officers, except in special circumstances.

But those statistics are completely startling.

The population ratio of the USA to the UK is only about 5 to 1 - but the kill rate ratio quoted there is about 2500 to 1.

Maybe I'll just stay here.

DamianTV
04-06-2015, 05:29 PM
When Death has no consequence, Life has no value.

The problem extends well beyond Cops, the Cops are merely a result of a deeper problem, where Govt, the Courts, the Laws and Lawmakers, as well as Prisons have placed no value on the life of Citizens. Prosecuters and Courts that refuse to convict Cops, Judges that rule in favor of Deadly Force in cases where Deadly Force is an excess of power, corrupt Police Chiefs that sincerely think that their costumes enable them to do whatever they want and get away with it because only "they" are "justified". Cops are now merely extensions of the disrespect for the ordinary person that comes from far too many organizations. Cops exist as the Department of Violence, and truly only do the bidding of the most powerful at the expense of the least powerful, or those who do not seek power.

- Monopoly on Violence
- Just Us

presence
04-06-2015, 05:50 PM
Every 90 minutes the boys in blue kill a dog
Every 6.5 hours they kill a human being

Another interesting fact:

Slaughterhouses around the country kill 10,000 pigs an hour to feed us.

Christopher A. Brown
04-06-2015, 07:01 PM
Is this more whining sniveling and complaining? Or is it an effort to provide reason to "alter or abolish" government destructive to our unalienable rights?

If the latter, people need to go to this thread and take the first, very easy steps to unity in America.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?471555-A-lawful-and-peaceful-revolution

Hmm, guess its "whining sniveling and complaining".

muh_roads
04-06-2015, 07:12 PM
I never thought I'd say this, but I want the taser use back if it replaces the handgun use. WTF

Zippyjuan
04-06-2015, 07:14 PM
Most UK policemen still don't carry guns. They only had 12,550 times that armed officers were even sent out last year. http://www.channel4.com/news/police-fatal-shooting-trigger-happy-fact-check


The authorisation factor is important, because this is where British police differ to most of the rest of the world. Aside from Ireland, all major police forces in Europe routinely carry firearms, along with the US, Canada and Australia. New Zealand is another exception.

That does not mean that firearms officers are not called out onto the streets frequently – just that authorised firearms officers (AFOs) are specially trained and that the decision made to deploy them is made by an inspector or someone even more senior. Since 2004, the use of tasers has been preferred in official policy – again, only by trained officers.

When an officer does open fire, there’s an immediate investigation, with the IPCC involved. Some families of victims of police shootings, including the Duggan family, have claimed that the police officers involved are in fact treated with a lighter touch by investigators, including the IPCC – and the law. Something that the accused passionately dispute.

"The officers are subject to immense scrutiny and pressure is placed on them and their colleagues on how they explain it,” said Mark Williams, chairman of the PFOA. “The bottom line is, everything they did has to be justified by law.”

They also have some of the toughest gun laws in the world so they don't have very many guns in the general population. US citizens have the largest number of guns in the world. There are only 14,500 privately owned handguns in the entire country of 60 million. Shotguns are the most widely owned at 1.6 million.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-kingdom


Number of Privately Owned Firearms

The estimated total number of guns (both licit and illicit) held by civilians in the United Kingdom is 4,060,000

The estimated rate of private gun ownership (both licit and illicit) in the United Kingdom is 6.71 firearms per 100 people

In the United Kingdom, the number of rifles in civilian possession is reported to be 540,237

In the United Kingdom, the number of shotguns in civilian possession is reported to be 1,576,548

There are reportedly 14,501 handguns in civilian possession in the United Kingdom



By comparison, according to CNN, in 2009 there were 310 million "non military" guns in the United States- nearly one for every person. That is about 80 times the total number of guns in the UK (US has five times the population). http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/09/politics/btn-guns-in-america/