54% of GOP Believe 'Deep Down' Obama Is a Muslim, Only 45% of Dems Believe Obama Is Christian

[enhanced_deficit]

Would Obama have to drone many more children in moslem lands to rectify this growing problem?


54 Percent of Republicans Believe 'Deep Down' Obama Is a Muslim, Survey Finds

Only 45 Percent of Democrats Believe Obama Is Christian

By Stoyan Zaimov , Christian Post ReporterFebruary 26, 2015

As many as 54 percent of Republicans have said in a survey that they believe President Barack Obama "deep down" is a Muslim, and only 9 percent trust that he's really a Christian.

Alex Theodoridis, an assistant professor of political science at the University of California, Merced, described the results as "staggering" in an article for The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2015/02/25/scott-walkers-view-of-obamas-religion-makes-him-a-moderate/?postshare=1651424880388887) on Wednesday.


http://www.christianpost.com/news/54...-finds-134791/ (http://www.christianpost.com/news/54-percent-of-republicans-believe-deep-down-obama-is-a-muslim-survey-finds-134791/)




Related

Obama cancelled trip to Sikh temple for fear of looking moslem in photos (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?410133-Obama-cancelled-trip-to-Sikh-temple-for-fear-of-looking-moslem-in-photos&)


Obama's grandmother visits Makkah
Al Arabiya
Apr 24, 2015 - Sara Omar, paternal grandmother of President Obama, attended an exhibition detailing the life of the Prophet Mohammad in Saudi Arabia.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/vari...n-Makkah-.html (http://english.alarabiya.net/en/variety/2015/04/23/Obama-s-grandmother-performs-pilgrimage-in-Makkah-.html)

http://www.dhacdo.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Sara-Omar2.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ndKhl_Ird-Y/VeYCnNHvlWI/AAAAAAAAifo/EcVmzk1L52o/s1600/PPP%2B-%2BObama%2BMuslim%2BResults%2B-%2BBirtherReport%2Bop.png


http://cdn.nomblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Obama-SSM-2008.jpg

[r3volution 3.0]

54 Percent of Republicans Believe 'Deep Down' Obama Is a Muslim, Survey Finds

Democrat = bad, Muslim = bad, Democrat = Muslim


Only 45 Percent of Democrats Believe Obama Is Christian

Democrat = good, Christian = bad, Democrat =/= Christian

...

http://cdn.meme.am/images/300x/9617853.jpg

[Stratovarious]

Some day I will meet someone that admits to voting for Obama and can explain why the essence of his campaign platform
based on bold face lies justifies his agenda.


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[HVACTech]

sorry folks, I am going to HAVE to agree with Alex here.


Alex Theodoridis, an assistant professor of political science at the University of California, Merced, described the results as "staggering"

anyone with a name like, "Barrack Hussein" is CLEARLY a homeboy from Hawaii. :p

[Superfly]

To Obama, the State is God.

[thoughtomator]

Deep down, Obama is a Fascist.

[Xenliad]

Obama belongs to his father, the devil, and he wants to carry out his father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

[oyarde]

I would be interested to know how many democrats claim to be Christian .

[RonPaulMall]

Just goes to show the ignorance of the average Republican voter. The only "Muslim" in Obama's life was a stepfather he apparently despised and who didn't raise him anyway. Obama was raised by his atheist grandparents and to a lesser extent, his atheist mother. The only time he ever expressed any "interest" in religion was late in his life when he joined a wacky black church that just so "happened" to be the most influential Church among the black voters in the district Obama was planning on running for office in. The only thing stupider than believing Obama is a Christian is believing he's a Muslim.

[Stratovarious]

I would be interested to know how many democrats claim to be Christian .

No sweat, I ran a Gallup style poll earlier today....

29 Democrats claim to be Christians:

3 Islamic Jihadists
6 Illegal Aliens
9 Grave markers
3 Vermont Starbucks owners
7 4th Generation welfare recipients
1 Wife of a kenyan


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[Slave Mentality]

New poll says that 87% of the people that care if he is a muslim spell it "moslem" and watch grainy bible shows on rabbit ears.

[Dianne]

Some day I will meet someone that admits to voting for Obama and can explain why the essence of his campaign platform
based on bold face lies justifies his agenda.


, ,

All you need do is go to democratic underground.com . Somehow they find twisted justification for everything Obama does.

[Dianne]

Just goes to show the ignorance of the average Republican voter. The only "Muslim" in Obama's life was a stepfather he apparently despised and who didn't raise him anyway. Obama was raised by his atheist grandparents and to a lesser extent, his atheist mother. The only time he ever expressed any "interest" in religion was late in his life when he joined a wacky black church that just so "happened" to be the most influential Church among the black voters in the district Obama was planning on running for office in. The only thing stupider than believing Obama is a Christian is believing he's a Muslim.

54% of Republicans believe he is Muslim, 55% of Democrats believe he is Muslim so I guess the majority in both parties are not as intelligent as you are. I don't believe anything related to Obama's past as the majority of his history including school records have been sealed by court order.

[enhanced_deficit]

I would be interested to know how many democrats claim to be Christian .

That would be an interesting poll in itself.



Only 45 Percent of Democrats Believe Obama Is Christian
As many as 54 percent of Republicans have said in a survey that they believe President Barack Obama "deep down" is a Muslim, and only 9 percent trust that he's really a Christian.

It is really remarkable that majorities of both democrats and republicans do not believe him even though he declared himself a christian on national tv.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_MqgeoD5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_MqgeoD5Y


SWC's honesty has been widely questioned (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?433586-Majority-of-Americans-now-believe-Obama-is-quot-dishonest-and-untrustworthy) in other polls before but this bi-partisan doubting of his claim about his religion is probably unparalleled in US history.

When we started spreading freedoms and defending our way of life in 2003 via OIF, no one in their wildest imagination anticipated that America would end up with a "secretly muslim President" within 5 years.


Related


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYRoTZ_6JYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYRoTZ_6JYg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB1UifGIqaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB1UifGIqaw

[Stratovarious]

That would be an interesting poll in itself.




It is really remarkable that majorities of both democrats and republicans do not believe him even though he declared himself a christian on national tv.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_MqgeoD5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_MqgeoD5Y


SWC's honesty has been widely questioned (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?433586-Majority-of-Americans-now-believe-Obama-is-quot-dishonest-and-untrustworthy) in other polls before but this bi-partisan doubting of his claim about his religion is probably unparalleled in US history.







Related


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYRoTZ_6JYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYRoTZ_6JYg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB1UifGIqaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB1UifGIqaw

You can keep your doctor.
Premiums will go down.
You can keep your health plan.
'...this is a substantive difference (Hillary and me)...I do not
support a mandate.
No lobbyists will work in my administration.

I mean the list really never ends....is their a pattern of truth and transparency here or ?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KnHp6KZebs


I'm just sayin' ....... Which lies from Obama are we to prefer ?

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[JK/SEA]

I haven't seen a main stream poll yet on ...'is Obama a puppet'?.....

i would vote yes.

[enhanced_deficit]

I haven't seen a main stream poll yet on ...'is Obama a puppet'?.....

i would vote yes.

Here is your chance:

Poll: Is Obama the Final Decider or a Puppet? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?418124-Is-Obama-the-Final-Decider-or-a-Puppet&)

MSM is too uncontrolled to conduct a poll like that.

[paleocon1]

I doubt barry has any significant convictions at all beyond a visceral hatred of White Middle Americans and an enormous sense of entitlement to the Very Best in creature comforts America has to offer. He is a rather stupid man who seems to be blissfully unaware that his Rank in the NWO is that of False Front Man with a Reserve Rank of Patsy/Martyr to the Cause to be invoked at need without notice.

[Stratovarious]

I doubt barry has any significant convictions at all beyond a visceral hatred of White Middle Americans and an enormous sense of entitlement to the Very Best in creature comforts America has to offer. He is a rather stupid man who seems to be blissfully unaware that his Rank in the NWO is that of False Front Man with a Reserve Rank of Patsy/Martyr to the Cause to be invoked at need without notice.

You could drop the Middle Class part and be just accurate, but less politically correct....
In other words there is no doubt in my mind of OBama's over the top racism, and abject hatred for America.
I totally agree with the 'stupid' part, a man that is suppossed to have been a Constitutional Professor, and hasn't a clue what any of it means.

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[Zippyjuan]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2015/02/25/scott-walkers-view-of-obamas-religion-makes-him-a-moderate/?postshare=1651424880388887

Significant portions of those polled chose "Don't know/ Don't Care" or "Spiritual"

https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/files/2015/02/theodoridis3.png

[RandallFan]

No doubt he was a raised a muslim in Indonesia. But he is more like a secular muslim.

He never believed in Islam or Christianity. He went to the ceremonies to show respect, bowed his head,etc.

He had to be down with the black church to succeed in Chicago politics.

If he just wanted to be a rant and rave type Louis Farrakhan type dude he would have stayed a secular muslim.

He also pretended to care about gay marriage to appear mainstream at the time. He doesn't care either way.

Being Christian and opposing gay marriage would make his political rise easy.

[enhanced_deficit]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2015/02/25/scott-walkers-view-of-obamas-religion-makes-him-a-moderate/?postshare=1651424880388887

Significant portions of those polled chose "Don't know/ Don't Care" or "Spiritual"


Excellent catch there.

Perhaps the "don't know" crowd would have answered differently had they read this informative NBC news report:




http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Obama-Family-Worships-at-Historic-Baptist-Church-in-Virginia-298709381.html

Obama Family Worships at Historic Baptist Church in Virginia

[Uriel999]

what no "I don't care" option?

[Stratovarious]

what no "I don't care" option?


Is this why posted, you don't care ?

:shruggs:

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[oyarde]

I would have thought atheist would be higher in the poll.

[56ktarget]

All politicians with a brain are secret atheists/agnostics

[enhanced_deficit]

More signs that Obama might be a Christian (even if he did not invite his pastor mentor Rev. Wright to this Christian prayer):

Rev. Al Sharpton attends an Easter Prayer Breakfast at the White House in Washington, Tuesday, April 7, 2015. President Barack Obama welcomed Christian leaders to the White House for a prayer breakfast Tuesday

http://l.yimg.com/os/152/2012/04/21/image001-png_162613.png (http://www.ap.org/) Susan Walsh 10 hours ago

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/vLbVQhq6U_SK.5XFhAQd3A--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM3NztpbD1wbGFuZTtweG 9mZj01MDtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz02NzA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/5e041f5f9f62fe0f720f6a7067006fca.jpg
Rev. Al Sharpton attends an Easter Prayer Breakfast at the White House in Washington, Tuesday, April 7, 2015. President Barack Obama welcomed Christian leaders to the White House for a prayer breakfast Tuesday, taking a mild poke at some of his critics in his Easter-themed remarks.

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/rev-al-sharpton-attends-easter-prayer-breakfast-white-photo-142906057.html

[CPUd]

http://i.imgur.com/lVT18zu.png

[AuH20]

All politicians with a brain are secret atheists/agnostics

They probably worship an owl god in Northern California.

[Zippyjuan]

Deep down, he can't possibly be like us. Otherwise, that would mean that deep down we aren't that different from him. He must be unlike us in every possible way.

[AuH20]

I doubt barry has any significant convictions at all beyond a visceral hatred of White Middle Americans and an enormous sense of entitlement to the Very Best in creature comforts America has to offer. He is a rather stupid man who seems to be blissfully unaware that his Rank in the NWO is that of False Front Man with a Reserve Rank of Patsy/Martyr to the Cause to be invoked at need without notice.

I don't think Barry knows that he's on the losing side and secret service isn't a lifetime job, especially when the deposits stop. He's going to be blamed for this and some people have a long memory.

[enhanced_deficit]

I would be interested to know how many democrats claim to be Christian .

Here is one:

http://thehollywoodbillboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/is-obama-a-christian.jpghttp://www.nowtheendbegins.com/images/obama-phoney-christian.jpg








Relational


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHFREDHB-nQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHFREDHB-nQ

http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0708/360_hillary_graham_0806.jpg

Hillary and Bill Clinton pray with Reverend Billy Graham in 1993 (http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1650798,00.html)

[Sola_Fide]

I know in my heart that Obombya's religion is statism and he worships Baal. Do I get a prize?

[parocks]

Just goes to show the ignorance of the average Republican voter. The only "Muslim" in Obama's life was a stepfather he apparently despised and who didn't raise him anyway. Obama was raised by his atheist grandparents and to a lesser extent, his atheist mother. The only time he ever expressed any "interest" in religion was late in his life when he joined a wacky black church that just so "happened" to be the most influential Church among the black voters in the district Obama was planning on running for office in. The only thing stupider than believing Obama is a Christian is believing he's a Muslim.

Listen, there is no dispute about the Muslim religion here. In the Muslim religion, if your dad was a Muslim, you're a Muslim. And Obama's dad was a Muslim. There is dispute here. Throughout his entire childhood, he was raised as a Muslim. Again, there is no dispute here. There are forms from his school in Indonesia where it says that he was a Muslim.

People might think that you can change your religion as easily as just saying your a different religion, but that's not how a lot of religions work. Like the Muslim religion.

If you ask Muslims about whether Obama is a Muslim, you will find that Muslims think Obama is a Muslim, and since Muslims know how the Muslim religion works, I'd say they have a better idea of what is true in this area.

[enhanced_deficit]

Rumors about Obama trying to pass Koranic verses as Biblical also seem to be baseless.



Glass in the Koran Posted on December 11, 2014

Recently President Barak Obama misquoted the Bible. He said, “I think the good book says don’t throw stones in glass houses.”

He added, “or make sure we’re looking at the log in our eye before we are pointing out the mote in other folks eyes.”
The proverb he meant to quote is “people who live in glass houses should not throw stones” a warning against hypocrisy, a big word for being a phony. As usual when politicians quote a book about which they know little or nothing they do indeed look like phonies.
The word glass appears only twice in the Old Testament but it refers to mirrors, a common household item made of polished brass and used in the wash basins of the Tabernacle where the worshiper was required to examine his own sin in a mirrored basin of water, to recognize his sin as preparation for God’s cleansing. They were also popular as ladies mirrors as well.
I checked an English version of the Koran, which Obama actually does know, and there are a few references to glass, but that book was written much later in world history.

Cal Thomas, a long-time Christian whose word on such matters can be trusted, has a short column on Bill Clinton, Al Gore and others bringing Bible quotations into politics because they perceived that Republicans have a leg up on the topic. Thomas knows his Bible in any event.



http://godspeaks2you.com/tag/glass-in-the-koran/

[Zippyjuan]

Should we care what religion the President is as long as he does not try to impose it on others? One reason people are not quite sure is that he doesn't flaunt it. Do we hear about Ron or Rand Paul's church attendance? Do people know or care what religion they are?

Rand was baptized an Episcopalian and went to a Baptist school (Baylor University). His wife was a Deacon at the Presbyterian Church they attended.


My faith has never been easy for me, never been easy to talk about and never been without obstacles. I do not and cannot wear my religion on my sleeve. I am a Christian but not always a good one. I'm not completely free of doubts. I struggle to understand man's inhumanity to man. I struggle to understand the horrible tragedies that war inflicts on our young men and women.


http://www.ontheissues.org/Archive/2012_Values_Voters_Rand_Paul.htm

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Deep down, he can't possibly be like us.


Should we care what religion the President is as long as he does not try to impose it on others?


Deep down--your boy Obama is not like us. He is not like liberty minded people. He uses the state to impose values on people. Liberals see the state as god. They are just as bad as the extreme religious people who trying to impose their personal religious values on others.

[euphemia]

Faith tradition is never to be a test for the qualification for President. We are not electing a national chaplain. We elect a President who swears an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

The only reason the issue would be relevant, is that Islam is incompatible with the US Constitution of the United States.

[Stratovarious]

Faith tradition is never to be a test for the qualification for President. We are not electing a national chaplain. We elect a President who swears an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

The only reason the issue would be relevant, is that Islam is incompatible with the US Constitution of the United States.

I agree, but sadly with Obama we got a piece of ##i# that #r### on the Constitution every chance he gets.
He swore an oath to preserve and protect a Constitution he hates to the core with all his heart and soul, since day one
in office he has insulted every American, and everyone in the World that believes in Freedom and the pursuit
of happiness.
Not to mention he has told more lies than the stench of Al Gore's hypocritical Carbon Footprint contradicts honesty and logic .




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[euphemia]

And that's the point. What does he think about the Constitution? How does he treat the Constitution?

[enhanced_deficit]

And that's the point. What does he think about the Constitution? How does he treat the Constitution?

Good point.

Question is what %age of GOP base would vote for a President who is openly of another religion besides Christianity (Muslim, Jew, Hindu, Scientologist etc)? Less than 5%?

[Stratovarious]

And that's the point. What does he think about the Constitution? How does he treat the Constitution?


Right , He treats the Constitution as if it was a document written by Satan.
Sure, I get it, and I would vote for a candidate if he was Hindu, Christian, Buddhist..... makes no difference to me
however I would classify Obama as much closer to a Radical Isalmic without the back pack, and no I would not vote for him.
Obama has done more damage To America than any president before him, Not counting Bush 1 and 2, jury still
in deliberation.

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[Spikender]

Who cares?

The only religion I care to despise is the religion of Statism and Obama is practically a Cardinal.

[enhanced_deficit]

Who cares?



GOP base, mostly.

[Spikender]

GOP base, mostly.

I guess I was coming from a point of view where this shouldn't matter.

Unfortunately it does. What a world, what a world...

[Zippyjuan]

Reminds me of the old bumper sticker:

http://rlv.zcache.com/the_moral_majority_is_neither_bumper_sticker-r611eda907888453894bca45df7cc6b98_v9wht_8byvr_512. jpg
http://www.zazzle.com/the_moral_majority_is_neither_bumper_sticker-128112091189977248

[enhanced_deficit]

I guess I was coming from a point of view where this shouldn't matter.

Unfortunately it does. What a world, what a world...

That's how I read it too.

[enhanced_deficit]

There are contradictions in GOP beliefs it appears. Going by Obama policies on things like "gay marriage", their beliefs would seem more logical if they saw him as a "secret buddhist". Unless they are just going by his Syria civil war support policy.



http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/religious-groups-on-marriage-equality-v3.png CREDIT: Dylan Petrohilos/ThinkProgres

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2015/04/22/3649935/poll-american-muslims-supportive-sex-marriage-white-evangelical-christians/

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

Listen, there is no dispute about the Muslim religion here. In the Muslim religion, if your dad was a Muslim, you're a Muslim. And Obama's dad was a Muslim.

His stepfather was, and his alleged Kenyan father was... but the latest from Kenya is that the Obama family there no longer even thinks President Barry is a blood relation.


Throughout his entire childhood, he was raised as a Muslim. Again, there is no dispute here. There are forms from his school in Indonesia where it says that he was a Muslim.

Not his entire childhood. It was from about ages 5 to 10 in Indonesia. It might be the case that little Barry was taking too much of a liking to Muslim doctrine, which helped his mother decide to send him back to Hawaii where he could be raised like a good atheistic Communist by father Frank and grandpa Stanley.



People might think that you can change your religion as easily as just saying your a different religion, but that's not how a lot of religions work. Like the Muslim religion.

Well, that's how it works in a free coutry like America. If Barry has been baptized, then he has every right to say he's a Christian. However, do we know if he was ever actually baptized? It is kind of interesting that Rev. Jeremiah Wright is an ex-Muslim with graduate degrees in Muslim studies.


If you ask Muslims about whether Obama is a Muslim, you will find that Muslims think Obama is a Muslim

He's a succesful politician who has convinced his Muslim supporters that he's a Muslim, his Christian supporters that he's a Christian, and convinced his atheist supporters that he's an atheist.

[enhanced_deficit]

what no "I don't care" option?


Who cares?

The only religion I care to despise is the religion of Statism and Obama is practically a Cardinal.


It is not really important what his actual private religious belief system is for you and me. But it is quite important and illuminating fact that majority of GOP sees current POTUS as a muslim ; a very large part of this demographic likely supported Iraqi freedom invasion based on lies/racial revenge/greed etc and this "punishment" for Iraqi freedom will serve as future foreign interventions deterrant for many and is a pardigm shifting change in US public psyche. Election of Barack Hussein Obama certainly has had some corrective positive impact from that angle and is not a total loss.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

I wish Colin Powell would have been the first black president. Obama will make black history month look bad throughout history.

[VIDEODROME]

Obama will be whatever is politically convenient in terms of religion.

[enhanced_deficit]

I wish Colin Powell would have been the first black president. Obama will make black history month look bad throughout history.

Were you serious?



Bush Administration's Powell Abuse Scandal (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/04/1088824/-Colin-Powell-so-so-sad-he-can-t-erase-blot-on-his-reputation)

http://images2.dailykos.com/i/user/6/colin-powell.jpg

“Yes, a blot, a failure will always be attached to me and my UN presentation,” the former U.S. secretary of state writes in a new book of leadership parables that draws frequently on his Iraq war experience. “I am mad mostly at myself for not having smelled the problem. My instincts failed me.” Powell, 75, laments that no intelligence officials had the “courage” to warn that he was given false information that Iraq had such weapons during preparations for his February 2003 speech before the U.S. invasion the following month.

At one point, he became so angry at the lack of adequate sourcing to intelligence claims that he declared: "I'm not reading this. This is bullshit,"

[wizardwatson]

Deep down, Americans believe Muslims are violent.

Therefore, Americans are Muslim.

[enhanced_deficit]

Deep down, Americans believe Muslims are violent.

Therefore, Americans are Muslim.

They seem to make a natural couple.. but fireworks fly when they have relationship disputes as both loves guns,masculine domination and irrational heavenly god.
That may also explain that in all our history, Americans have never elected a single President who was not a Christian or Muslim male.

[Zippyjuan]

Are Quakers considered "Christian"? (Herbert Hoover, Richard Nixon).

[wizardwatson]

They seem to make a natural couple.. but fireworks fly when they have relationship disputes as both loves guns,masculine domination and irrational heavenly god.
That may also explain that in all our history, Americans have never elected a single President who was not a Christian or Muslim male.

Americans don't love God, they think God loves them, big difference.

America says "I am no widow", which means they believe God is still with them if you understand how the bible uses marriage analogies to reference the church and Christ.


Revelation 18:7-8 7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

American evangelicals are a deluded lot. So full of themselves they cannot even interpret the scripture referring directly to them.

[enhanced_deficit]

Americans don't love God, they think God loves them, big difference.

America says "I am no widow", which means they believe God is still with them if you understand how the bible uses marriage analogies to reference the church and Christ.



American evangelicals are a deluded lot. So full of themselves they cannot even interpret the scripture referring directly to them.

I was trying to suggest that there are many who stand for/support/love god. Justification or validation of any scripture based belief system is an entirely different topic though. I'm politically speaking. On American evangelicals, I'm leaning towards the conclusion especially since the infamous Schweich suicide scandal that things they say with their lips are scam to a great degree.

http://www.lovegfc.webplusshop.com/stores/store_6620/media/Love%20of%20God-001.jpg
https://4gfc.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/10464179_580618142050732_7180547632452517086_n.png ?w=640

[enhanced_deficit]

Are Quakers considered "Christian"? (Herbert Hoover, Richard Nixon).

Not sure about Hoover but Nixon came across as a Christian after listening to his secretly taped conversations (https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=nixon+graham+tapes) with Christian evangelical godfather Billy Graham.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Were you serious?



Bush Administration's Powell Abuse Scandal (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/04/1088824/-Colin-Powell-so-so-sad-he-can-t-erase-blot-on-his-reputation)

http://images2.dailykos.com/i/user/6/colin-powell.jpg

“Yes, a blot, a failure will always be attached to me and my UN presentation,” the former U.S. secretary of state writes in a new book of leadership parables that draws frequently on his Iraq war experience. “I am mad mostly at myself for not having smelled the problem. My instincts failed me.” Powell, 75, laments that no intelligence officials had the “courage” to warn that he was given false information that Iraq had such weapons during preparations for his February 2003 speech before the U.S. invasion the following month.

At one point, he became so angry at the lack of adequate sourcing to intelligence claims that he declared: "I'm not reading this. This is bullshit,"
Powell didn't want to invade Iraq, got sick of all the bullshit, and that is when he resigned after he got tired of being forced to lie. Or he was just threatened into resigning. Just like how Donald Rumsfeld got his idiot ass fired for dropping that Freudian slip that flight 93 was shot down.


Secretary of State Colin L. Powell announced his resignation yesterday, ending four years of battles with Vice President Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld over the course of U.S. foreign policy.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50926-2004Nov15.html



Powell came under fire for his role in building the case for the 2003 Invasion of Iraq. In a press statement on February 24, 2001, he had said that sanctions against Iraq had prevented the development of any weapons of mass destruction by Saddam Hussein. As was the case in the days leading up to the Persian Gulf War, Powell was initially opposed to a forcible overthrow of Saddam, preferring to continue a policy of containment. However, Powell eventually agreed to go along with the Bush administration's determination to remove Saddam. He had often clashed with others in the administration, who were reportedly planning an Iraq invasion even before the September 11 attacks.
taken from his wiki

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Powell didn't want to invade Iraq, got sick of all the bullshit, and that is when he resigned after he got tired of being forced to lie. Or he was just threatened into resigning. Just like how Donald Rumsfeld got his idiot ass fired for dropping that Freudian slip that flight 93 was shot down.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50926-2004Nov15.html



taken from his wiki

While one can feel sorry for him imagining the kind of pressure that may have been exerted to force him to present evidence, that he believed to be "bullshit", as justification for bloody Iraq invasion. It seems bit opportunistic though to resign once it became evident that it was a blunder from hell more than a year after him personally telling Iraq lies to the world.

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And today leading GOP Presidential candidate suggested that America already has had its first Muslim President.



Powell didn't want to invade Iraq, got sick of all the bullshit, and that is when he resigned after he got tired of being forced to lie. Or he was just threatened into resigning. Just like how Donald Rumsfeld got his idiot ass fired for dropping that Freudian slip that flight 93 was shot down.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50926-2004Nov15.html



taken from his wiki

EM.

What kind of force was being applied on Powell .. was he being threatened/blackmailed to make him support a war he actually opposed as you are suggesting?
One would think that a US General would be a strong person who cannot be easily forced against his will by moneybaggers/politicians/neocons etc.

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"59 percent of Americans today believe that Barack Obama is still a Muslim."

— Arsalan Iftikhar on Sunday, November 22nd, 2015 in a roundtable discussion on NBC's "Meet the Press"

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/nov/23/arsalan-iftikhar/do-59-percent-americans-believe-barack-obama-musli/



It’s time to ask the question: Is Obama a Muslim? November 26, 2015 by Wayne Allyn Root
http://personalliberty.com/time-ask-question-obama-muslim/

[Zippyjuan]

"59 percent of Americans today believe that Barack Obama is still a Muslim."

— Arsalan Iftikhar on Sunday, November 22nd, 2015 in a roundtable discussion on NBC's "Meet the Press"

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/nov/23/arsalan-iftikhar/do-59-percent-americans-believe-barack-obama-musli/



It’s time to ask the question: Is Obama a Muslim? November 26, 2015 by Wayne Allyn Root
http://personalliberty.com/time-ask-question-obama-muslim/

Headline is wrong and the article is debunking it. In its fact checking, the first article notes:


We found two polls in recent months that asked a question along these same lines:

• CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll, Sept. 4-8, 2015. The pollsters asked, "Do you happen to know what religion Barack Obama is? Is he Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, Mormon, Muslim, something else, or not religious?"

Among all respondents, 29 percent said Obama is "Muslim." While that’s 11 percentage points higher than Pew had found five years earlier, it’s still not as high as the 59 percent figure Iftikhar cited on Meet the Press.

The percentage was higher for Republicans alone -- 43 percent thought Obama is Muslim, compared with 15 percent of Democrats and 29 percent of independents. CNN/ORC surveyed 1,012 adult Americans by landline and cell phones, for a sampling margin of error of 3 percentage points.

• Public Policy Polling poll, Aug. 28-30, 2015. The pollsters asked, "Do you think Barack Obama is a Christian or a Muslim, or are you not sure?" Public Policy Polling only asked "usual Republican primary voters" -- 572 of them -- this question. The automated survey was conducted by landline and the Internet, with a sampling margin of error of just over 4 percent.

The survey found that 54 percent of the Republican primary electorate thought Obama is a Muslim, compared with just 14 percent who thought he is Christian and 32 percent who said they didn’t know.

So with this survey, we reach a number within striking distance of Iftikhar’s Meet the Press statistic -- but it just describes the views of "usual Republican primary voters," which is only one subset of "Americans."

When we reached out to Iftikhar, he quickly and good-naturedly copped to mangling his talking point.

"You are correct," he wrote via email. "I did mean Republicans from the PPP poll. Nobody is perfect :-)"

[AngryCanadian]

Some day I will meet someone that admits to voting for Obama and can explain why the essence of his campaign platform
based on bold face lies justifies his agenda.


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Yeah expect in 08 u had the choice of Obama or the war monger McCain...

[TheCount]

Yeah expect in 08 u had the choice of Obama or the war monger McCain...

I'll eagerly take Obama over McCain. Didn't vote for either though.

[VIDEODROME]

Maybe he's both or Chrislam? :rolleyes:

[VIDEODROME]

I'll eagerly take Obama over McCain. Didn't vote for either though.

Voting for John McCain would be like voting for Colonel Kurtz from Apocalypse Now for president.

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Headline is wrong and the article is debunking it. In its fact checking, the first article notes:

True, 59% of US Evangelicals ( that incidentally was the most pro Iraq war US demograhic) see Obama as a Muslim. He mixed up Evangies with Americans.



I'll eagerly take Obama over McCain.

Good point. There are certain therapeutic, conditioning/learning benefits especially for pro-war demograhics of America from 8 years of "Black Muslim in the White House" immediately after a disastrous intervention in a mideast Muslim country. There has to be an inescabable connection being made in the minds of pro-intervention demographics... we spreaded Freedom in Iraq after removing Saddam Hussein as a retribution for Osama's actions and within few years Barack Hussein Obama was sitting the White House. Lesson learnt.
I'm surprised that this argument is not used more often by anti-war/anti-intervention folks to further educate US Evangelicals/GOP base.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I'll eagerly take Obama over McCain. Didn't vote for either though.


Who did you vote for?

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To be fair, Obama had claimed to be a Christian during 2007-08 gay weddings question ceremoney that was hosted by a Pastor.

[Dr.3D]

I suspect, more than 50% of people who call themselves Christian, don't know what it is to be a Christian.