for G.O.P., Support for Israel Becomes New Litmus Test

[cindy25]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/28/us/politics/republicans-criticize-james-baker-for-speech-on-benjamin-netanyahu.html

this proves we need a 3rd party

[fr33]

American Jewry is not the force behind this madness. Evangelical Christians are.

Republicans are more likely to support welfare for foreigners than domestic tax cuts.

[cindy25]

American Jewry is not the force behind this madness. Evangelical Christians are.

Republicans are more likely to support welfare for foreigners than domestic tax cuts.

and the evangelicals control the Iowa caucuses, and the SC and FL primaries. Just look where Cruz announced. at some point we have to say let them have their party and be done with it.

[JohnGalt1225]

This is one of the most obnoxious developments in the GOP over the past 20 or so years. Our foreign policy is so antagonistic, aggressive, and illogical in large part because of our continuing support our "special" partner. Zionist Evangelical Christians have hijacked our foreign policy to a degree that it is entirely framed on support for a foreign nation. I guess "no tangling alliances" means nothing.

[cindy25]

at least Jews supporting Israel is rational, as Irish Americans supporting Ireland. but these nut cases support Israel because they want the rapture. separation of Church and State? how about separation of Church and party

[H. E. Panqui]

this proves we need a 3rd party

:confused:

...wouldn't we need an honest second party first?...(wiseguy shouts..'how 'bout and honest first party, H. E.'...;)

...as to 'the litmus test':...i strongly suspect 'the real litmus te$t' is that the particular miserable republicrat foghorns pre-$elected are of no threat to this mi$erable gd in$ane exi$ting 'financial order'..

...and of course, there are many other issues of importance...but i've come to the conclu$ion thi$ i$ 'the big one'...and while we probably can never be rid of evil and ignorance, we can take 'the money card' away from them...and dimini$h--GREATLY--their power to do evil/ignorance...

[enhanced_deficit]

American Jewry is not the force behind this madness. Evangelical Christians are.


EM.

It's a scam if below news are confirmed.

2015

WaPo: "This week, Schweich seemed to be getting anxious about some comments he alleged Hancock made about his faith. He told the AP that he had heard rumors that Hancock made some comments last year that Schweich was Jewish and he thought Hancock should step down from his position as party chairman, to which he was just elected. Messenger, from the Post-Dispatch, said in his statement that Schweich told him he thought Hancock meant to “harm him politically in a gubernatorial primary in which many Republican voters are evangelical Christians.”

Schweich suicide: Missouri GOP chairman denies spreading rumors about Schweich’s religion (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?469879-Schweich-suicide-Missouri-GOP-chairman-denies-spreading-rumors-about-Schweich%E2%80%99s-religion&)


'Half-Breed Jew' Committed Holocaust, Claims Netanyahu Ally John Hagee
03/12/2015
Who committed the Holocaust? For the overwhelming majority of historians and, needless to say, Jews it's a settled question: Hitler, and his Nazis. But Christians United For Israel (CUFI) head John Hagee, one of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's closest American allies, has a different answer: "half-breed Jews."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-wilson/netanyahu-ally-john-hagee_b_6848226.html


2008

Jew vs. Hidden Jew: Macaca-man George Allen Eyes Va. Run
“I was raised as a Christian, and my mother was raised as a Christian,” said Allen, who is locked in an unexpectedly close race with Democrat James Webb. “And I embrace and take great pride in every aspect of my diverse heritage, including my Lumbroso family line’s Jewish heritage, which I learned about from a recent magazine article and my mother confirmed.” Later in the day, Allen’s campaign manager, Dick Wadhams, identified the article as a story by E.J. Kessler that appeared in the Forward last month. According to Wadhams, after reading the article the senator decided to ask his mother about her Jewish roots.He didn’t explain why calling someone Jewish might be considered casting an aspersion.
Allen started the 2006 race in the spring as a hugely popular incumbent, a shoo-in for reelection and in fact a leading contender for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination until this happened. Now Wikipedia includes him on its list of Jewish former senators.

Schweich suicide: Missouri GOP chairman denies spreading rumors about Schweich’s religion (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?469879-Schweich-suicide-Missouri-GOP-chairman-denies-spreading-rumors-about-Schweich%E2%80%99s-religion&)




1972

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP, FEBRUARY 1, 1972) (http://www.raghidadergham.com/archiv...pt3_26_02.html)

NIXON: “Newsweek” is totally — it's all run by Jews and dominated by them in their editorial pages. The “New York Times, the “Washington Post”, totally Jewish too.

GRAHAM: And they're the ones putting out the pornographic stuff. But this stranglehold has got to be broken or this country is going to go down the drain.

NIXON: Do you believe that?

GRAHAM: Yes, sir.

NIXON: I can't ever say it, but I believe it.

GRAHAM: But if you get elected a second time, we might be able to do something.

(END AUDIO CLIP)

Billy Graham, Father of American Christian Evangelical movement

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/08/11/0811_graham_460x276.jpg

Billy Graham biopic shows at Bible belt churches ahead of October release

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/aug/11/usa.religion

[Anti Federalist]

Warvengelicals...pffft.

[muh_roads]

But if we don't support Israel, Jesus won't come back in his UFO.

[TheTexan]

I don't understand why Christians like Israel so much, considering that Jews killed Jesus.

[TheCount]

Republicans are more likely to support welfare for foreigners than domestic tax cuts.

Worse, they will support foreign aid and tax cuts, spending without even the fiscal courage to balance the budget.

[AuH20]

911 sent this relationship into crazy land. Islamic fundamentalism isn't a friend of America but neither is Irsrael.

[enhanced_deficit]

Islamic fundamentalism isn't a friend of America but neither is Irsrael.

That is strange claim considering that 9 out of 10 times US has supported Islamic fundamentalists worldwide from Afghanistan to Iraq to Saudi Arabia and Israel follows same line for most part. Even today Americans have elected son of an Islamic man as President before they would elect daughter of a christian man and all recent US presidents have bowed before the Islamic king who doesn't allow gays to date/marry or women to drive.


University of Nebraska Prepares Jihadi Schoolbooks for Afghan Kids, USAID Distributes.
Sadanand Patwardhan


http://hennessysview.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/obama-bows-saudi-king.jpg

[erowe1]

New?

[DamianTV]

Remember that US Citizens are the enemy of the US Govt by their own accord.

It isnt just Israel. Our foreign policy puts more value on Welfare for Illegals than natural born citizens and legal immigrants. It is more important to have military bases everywhere else in the world than to respect the Rights of the people at home. Going to War with Iran and Russia and China and Syria and Egypt are all more important than having peace within our own borders. Israel is nothing more than an extension of the Warmongering Politics of the GOP because Peacekeeping and Non Intervention is simply not as profitable.

[devil21]

This has to be trickling down at the direction of the RNC.

At my county convention yesterday, not a single speaker that was part of the convention agenda got up on stage that did NOT mention their love for Israel as part of their comments! From the county chair to our RNC committeewoman and everyone in between. A couple even sounded forced. Not one! That has NEVER happened before. AIPAC must be feeling the heat.

[H. E. Panqui]

...moses supposedly preached 'one eye for one eye'..jesus the christ supposedly preached, 'zero eyes for one eye'...

...but the rotten, foaming republican chri'stains' (whom rand and the other stinking republican wannabees want to impress) are not satiated with even 50 eyes for one eye!!..

...i know in my bones, and some of you here know too, that had they been on the scene in the biblical christ's time, THE VAST MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS/CRATS WOULD'VE EAGERLY GIVEN THE THUMBS-UP FOR CRUCIFIXTION!!!...surely, ALL these gd monstrous fool zionist apologists/cheerleaders..

[pcosmar]

New Litmus Test

it ain't new.

[A. Havnes]

This has to be trickling down at the direction of the RNC.

At my county convention yesterday, not a single speaker that was part of the convention agenda got up on stage that did NOT mention their love for Israel as part of their comments! From the county chair to our RNC committeewoman and everyone in between. A couple even sounded forced. Not one! That has NEVER happened before. AIPAC must be feeling the heat.

Crazy! I'm getting tired of the unconditional devotion towards a foreign government. Love for your fellow man is one thing, but a government isn't a man and doesn't need constant devotion. What I can't understand is how these people can be totally fine with criticizing their own country (which is completely OK to do), but they can't turn around and criticize Israel.

When it comes to Israel, they just seem to turn their political analysis off for fear of damnation or something.

[enhanced_deficit]

A strange phenomenon. Almost every well known self-declared "Israel supporter" in the GOP/Christian base ideological camp has been called "anti semite".
If anyone challanges this, pick a name.

[devil21]

Crazy! I'm getting tired of the unconditional devotion towards a foreign government. Love for your fellow man is one thing, but a government isn't a man and doesn't need constant devotion. What I can't understand is how these people can be totally fine with criticizing their own country (which is completely OK to do), but they can't turn around and criticize Israel.

When it comes to Israel, they just seem to turn their political analysis off for fear of damnation or something.

It is damnation, at least once you get inside the power structure, whether local, state or national, in the sense that the establishment conclave (if you attend conventions and party functions you know what I mean by the "establishment conclave"...they're almost cultish) will ostracize you or work to prevent you from gaining influence if you don't profess obedience to the Israeli lobby. It's pretty well documented that AIPAC works to purge people that don't genuflect. That's been the case for a long time. Now, it appears you must publicly profess this obedience at party functions as a litmus test, indeed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_VNOk7Wv5A

That pressure she speaks of has reached all the way down to neighborly party functions. The thing the members of the "conclave" fear the most is no longer being part of the "conclave", so they toe the line, even if forced. Fear of exile is a powerful tool.

[enhanced_deficit]

for G.O.P., Support for Israel Becomes New Litmus Test


this proves we need a 3rd party

While this is mostly a scam with ulterior motives by GOP, which party is bigger supporter of AIPAC.. Dems or GOP?


White House will go after AIPAC next -- Newsweek (http://mondoweiss.net/2015/03/after-aipac-newsweek)
mondoweiss.net/2015/03/after-aipac-newsweekMondoweiss
Mar 27, 2015 - White House will go after AIPAC next — Newsweek.

[Voluntarist]

xxxxx

[JK/SEA]

it ain't new.

yep...seems i went through this 'litmus' test ideology bullshit at the 2008 Spokane Washington Convention....brain washed idiots in control....

[Voluntarist]

xxxxx

[GunnyFreedom]

It's not new, and it's not even real. It's a test of loyalty to their one, unique version of what it means to support Israel. You could support, love, bless, help Israel 100%, live a life of nothing but loving Israel, and if that support does not extend, for example, to the Likud political Party and it's membership, then none of that counts. It's not about loving and supporting Israel, it's about loving and supporting a smallish plurality faction within Israel. It's a sham. It's a method that neocons are using to frame the debate and try to play on their own home field.

[cindy25]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/05/us/politics/gops-israel-support-deepens-as-political-contributions-shift.html?partner=socialflow&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=0

[cindy25]

it ain't new.

to this extreme it is. even Bush 41 stood up to Israel. will even Rand stand up to them today?

[Stratovarious]

at least Jews supporting Israel is rational, as Irish Americans supporting Ireland. but these nut cases support Israel because they want the rapture. separation of Church and State? how about separation of Church and party

I'm wondering how many seconds it would take the World to condemn a White Christian State in unison as a racist state , upon announcement.
I also often wonder and have mentioned/questioned it here , why is there so very little coverage of Israel's West Bank occupation.

I had always leaned toward supporting Israel, but no longer sure just why, if they gave up their occupation that feeling might
somewhat return.

Most of all we need OIL , can't get around that, but I wish we would focus on self sufficiency, pack up 95% of our troops and
bring them back to secure the borders, the world will only hate us for our interventionist policies so long before they band together and
crush us.


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[RonPaulMall]

There is a sect of Jews within Israel that are extremely anti-Zionist because that it is God who is supposed to return the Jews to Israel. That the modern state of Israel was founded by secular socialists and not the hand of God makes it an abomination in their minds. I always thought this might be a fertile line of argument to use on pro-Israel Christians.

[cindy25]

I really don't care about the occupation. their business. my problem is their influence and arrogance in other countries affairs. from setting foreign policy to influencing elections to the endless foreign aid demanded.

[pcosmar]

to this extreme it is. even Bush 41 stood up to Israel. will even Rand stand up to them today?

It has bee a political reality since the 1920s when the Zionists became a political force (They were initially rejected even by the Jewish leaders)

It has been firmly in place since 1948 when Israel was formed. It is the reason the USS Liberty incident was covered up.

It has been firmly enforced by both parties,, regardless of any rhetoric.

[Stratovarious]

I really don't care about the occupation. their business. my problem is their influence and arrogance in other countries affairs. from setting foreign policy to influencing elections to the endless foreign aid demanded.

I agree, though look at the first part of what you're saying , I can assure you there is no greater incidence of arrogance and influence than taking and occupying part of another Country, that's arrogance beyond definition.
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[enhanced_deficit]

I really don't care about the occupation. their business. my problem is their influence and arrogance in other countries affairs. from setting foreign policy to influencing elections to the endless foreign aid demanded.

Cindy25, do you care about this? If yes, do you have any idea what is causing this?


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[zactidwell]

The US and Israel = Mystery Babylon

[zactidwell]

and the lovely Mossad assassinations are great, as well.

[H. E. Panqui]

...well, the two big 'liberty' :rolleyes: republicrat candidates for office, pablum cruz and rand poll, :mad: surely fellated :p the barbed iZraeli peepee... ;)

[Jamesiv1]

I don't care if someone loves Israel or hates Israel.

Just quit giving them foreign aid. Quit giving everybody foreign aid.

[DamianTV]

U.S. = Israel's bitch.

Who runs who? It sure as shit aint the US people in charge of the US, nor the Isralei's in Israel...

[thoughtomator]

you can thank the "Christian" "conservatives" for this one

[GunnyFreedom]

you can thank the "Christian" "conservatives" for this one
I am glad that you used quote marks there. The quote marks make the statement accurate.

[DamianTV]

you can thank the "Christian" "conservatives" for this one

Agree. And by the same token, the quoted folks would also have everyone believe that only Christians and Jews should have any Rights and everyone else should not.

(Thats for the dangerous people in political power, so not pointing fingers at anyone on this thread, nor trying to single out those who are christian or jewish. Again, points finger at the people to whom the quoted labels apply.)