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phill4paul
03-26-2015, 06:48 AM
Nevada’s top judge recently had to appear before state lawmakers asking for more money for the state Supreme Court, apparently because law enforcement officers aren’t writing enough traffic tickets.

Chief Justice James Hardesty testified before a joint Senate Finance and Ways and Means subcommittee, during which he told the panel that the court needed $700,000 by May 1 or it will be out of money. “Do you want me to close the judicial branch of government at the state level on May 1?” Hardesty said, according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

He added that law enforcement is not generating the same amount of revenue from traffic tickets as it once did, and that’s robbing the high court of funds for operations. “I’m not faulting law enforcement; either they are understaffed or they have changed policies,” Hardesty said.
“Now with all due respect to the citizens of Nevada, I don’t think anyone is driving better. I think the truth is that we’re seeing less traffic violations because law enforcement’s priorities have changed and it has changed dramatically.”
The Review-Journal reported that ticket citations are down 21% since 2010, from 615,267 statewide then to 484,913 last year.

http://www.allgov.com/news/controversies/nevada-chief-justice-complains-that-state-supreme-court-will-go-broke-unless-law-enforcement-officers-write-more-tickets-150325?news=856058

Now with all due respect to Hardesty the citizens should tar, feather and whip him across state lines with a warning never to return.

tod evans
03-26-2015, 07:15 AM
“Do you want me to close the judicial branch of government at the state level on May 1?” Hardesty said

That would be a damn good start!

aGameOfThrones
03-26-2015, 07:19 AM
Motherfucker!


He added that law enforcement is not generating the same amount of revenue(theft) from traffic tickets as it once did, and that’s robbing the high court of funds for operations

ZENemy
03-26-2015, 07:49 AM
Vote hard, vote often.

paleocon1
03-26-2015, 07:58 AM
"Now with all due respect to the citizens of Nevada, I don’t think anyone is driving better"

Nice admission by the Thudge that traffic enforcement has never been about public safety, but rather always a simple shakedown/extortion exercise by his gang affiliation.

Weston White
03-26-2015, 08:15 AM
Looks like y'all have some pay and benefits cut decisions to start making; well better get busy now:

James W Hardesty

JUDICIAL ELECTED OFFICIALS 2014 Total: $271,973.36 (Benefits: $65,141.54)
JUDICIAL ELECTED OFFICIALS 2013 Total: $271,775.54 (Benefits: $64,959.24)
JUDICIAL ELECTED OFFICIALS 2012 Total: $267,577.12 (Benefits: $61,298.12)
JUDICIAL ELECTED OFFICIALS 2011 Total: $206,831.81
JUDICIAL ELECTED OFFICIALS 2010 Total: $206,156.21
JUDICIAL ELECTED OFFICIALS 2009 Total: $167,472.03
JUDICIAL ELECTED OFFICIALS 2008 Total: $164,255.12
JUDICIAL ELECTED OFFICIALS 2007 Total: $160,965.23

Judge Hardesty: http://www.transparentnevada.com/salaries/search/?q=James+Hardesty&t=name&j=any&y=any&s=default

All: http://www.transparentnevada.com/salaries/search/?q=JUDICIAL ELECTED OFFICIALS&t=job

oyarde
03-26-2015, 08:35 AM
Good Lord what a loser .

Slave Mentality
03-26-2015, 08:37 AM
What a shit bag.

acptulsa
03-26-2015, 08:42 AM
"Now with all due respect to the citizens of Nevada, I don’t think anyone is driving better"

But thanks to the willful and systematic destruction of the middle class, fewer people are driving at all.

Guess the robber barons never heard that a rising tide floats all boats.

phill4paul
03-26-2015, 08:48 AM
New definitions:

Traffic Violation: The extortion of money committed by government officials on drivers while their vehicle is in motion.

tod evans
03-26-2015, 08:53 AM
New definitions:

Traffic Violation: The extortion of money committed by government officials on drivers while their vehicle is in motion.

If ya' figure a kop earns $50k and this fine judge is earning $300k, a ticket cost $200.00, just to support those two salaries requires 1750 tickets!

That's almost 5 tickets per day 365 days per year and that doesn't support any other aspects of governments monstrosity...

morfeeis
03-26-2015, 09:23 AM
i would like to see if traffic accidents have gone down or up and if there is a positive or negative correlation between harm to the public and written tickets.

Thor
03-26-2015, 09:31 AM
It's for the children!

donnay
03-26-2015, 09:33 AM
He should be tried for conspiracy to commit extortion, racketeering and obstructing justice.

phill4paul
03-26-2015, 09:36 AM
i would like to see if traffic accidents have gone down or up and if there is a positive or negative correlation between harm to the public and written tickets.

I'd bet a hundred that traffic accidents haven't increased 21%. I've yet to ever hear anyone say "Ya know, If it just weren't for the chance of getting a darned ticket I'd really like to get in an accident today."

presence
03-26-2015, 09:38 AM
If ya' figure a kop earns $50k and this fine judge is earning $300k, a ticket cost $200.00, just to support those two salaries requires 1750 tickets!

That's almost 5 tickets per day 365 days per year and that doesn't support any other aspects of governments monstrosity...


Where do I get to vote for all elected officials and gov't employees, at all levels, to receive minimum wage?

phill4paul
03-26-2015, 09:41 AM
He should be tried for conspiracy to commit extortion, racketeering and obstructing justice.

He'd find himself not guilty on all accounts. ;)

Christopher A. Brown
03-26-2015, 12:14 PM
Vote hard, vote often.

Without campaign finance reform and a solid constitutional test for candidates, it is unlikely that the best outcome from voting will be found.

Here is the strategy to test and purify state legislators in support of the constitution.

A) Test officials and candidates for acceptance of the root purpose of free speech being to assure information vital to unity needed to alter or abolish is shared and understood.

B)Test officials and candidates for acceptance of root purpose of free speech as prime constitutional intent used to create unity to conduct Article V with constitutional intent as the prime right for the purpose of protecting unalienable rights.

C) As an official of government, can you accept that EVERY American can understand and accept A)?

D) Are you aware that in 1911, 2/3 of the states applied for a convention and congress violated the law, their oath and the constitution by failing to convene delegates?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs7qIQ1VkEg
http://my.firedoglake.com/danielmarks/2013/04/30/congress-needs-to-comply-with-state-demands-for-article-v-constitutional-convention/
Can you accept that such a fact justifies that all delegates be elected in the states by the people of those states?

Because of that letter, the house finally adopts rule to count states applications for Article V.
http://www.examiner.com/article/u-s-house-finally-adopts-rule-to-count-article-v-convention-applications

E) Can you understand and accept that any state legislator that cannot accept A), can be impeached in this constitutional emergency as being unfit for office?

F)Can you understand and accept that A) B) C) D) & E) are legal process and that IF citizens act with D) as justification, and E) to complete the legal process, they WILL be "the rightful masters of the congress and the courts" BECAUSE their states, as led by the people, then will agree that proper preparation for Article V consists of;

1) Amend Article V to assure the right to "alter or abolish" is enforceable under law by including preparatory amendment as a requirement.

2) End the abridging of free speech.

3) Securing the vote.

4) Campaign finance reform.

G) Americans need to agree that Officials of states and federal government must accept that such preparation by amendment is completely constitutional and can only enable democratic assertion of the principles of the republic, and, once complete; WHEREUPON all amendment should cease until America can be certain it is competent to Article V by testing itself to assure it knows and can define constitutional intent

acptulsa
03-26-2015, 12:23 PM
Here is the strategy to test and purify...

Purify them? Are we going to boil them?


B)Test officials and candidates for acceptance of root purpose of free speech as prime constitutional intent used to create unity to conduct Article V with constitutional intent as the prime right for the purpose of protecting unalienable rights.

Well, no, since I don't agree with that statement myself. That said, I don't think one legislator in fifty could unscramble that tangle of verbiage sufficiently to honestly tell you if they agree with it or not. And, of course, there is no test you could ever possibly devise that would tell you accurately whether someone accepts such a proposition with all their heart anyway. None. But it might be funny to watch a McCain, or a Feinstein, or any number of them trying to figure out what the hell you just said. Very funny indeed.

Anti Federalist
03-26-2015, 12:26 PM
So, an open and honest admission that:

1 - It is not about "safety".

2 - It is about revenue generation and control.

And Boobus yawns.

XNavyNuke
03-26-2015, 12:30 PM
How did we ever manage having a functioning court system for the first hundred years of this country before adopting the European model of a "professional", revenuing police organization?

XNN

PaulConventionWV
03-26-2015, 12:32 PM
“Now with all due respect to the citizens of Nevada, I don’t think anyone is driving better.

Oh... remind me again what the purpose of tickets is, then? Because you said it yourself: It certainly isn't making our roads any safer.

Chester Copperpot
03-26-2015, 12:35 PM
He should be tried for conspiracy to commit extortion, racketeering and obstructing justice.

+1

pcosmar
03-26-2015, 12:48 PM
He should be tried for conspiracy to commit extortion, racketeering and obstructing justice.

There is not a court in this country that would hear that case. :(

presence
03-26-2015, 01:20 PM
Oh... remind me again what the purpose of tickets is, then? Because you said it yourself: It certainly isn't making our roads any safer.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fe/d3/3a/fed33a86fb9f64e06076959f4bf84857.jpg

Christopher A. Brown
03-26-2015, 01:36 PM
Purify them? Are we going to boil them?

Well, no, since I don't agree with that statement myself. That said, I don't think one legislator in fifty could unscramble that tangle of verbiage sufficiently to honestly tell you if they agree with it or not. And, of course, there is no test you could ever possibly devise that would tell you accurately whether someone accepts such a proposition with all their heart anyway. None. But it might be funny to watch a McCain, or a Feinstein, or any number of them trying to figure out what the hell you just said. Very funny indeed.

Filter them, maybe heat them up first since they are kind of greasy.

The actual test goes like this starting with the first and most vital part. Let us see if you can pass it, all sincere Americans logically can do so easily and with satisfaction.

Do you agree and agree and accept that the framers defined the right to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights they also defined, and actually intended for us to be adequately unified to alter or abolish government powerful enough to be destructive to those rights? Then, would you agree and accept that they intended free speech to serve the purpose of enabling such unity?

The strategy first posted is covers all prime constitutional intents vital to enforcement and also gets more complex when approaching a group of legislators, which is the entire process is addressed in the step-by-step version I posted.

jkr
03-26-2015, 01:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=el-rhxiNWMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=YOFRDha4UIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rppE5NOf1zc

phill4paul
03-26-2015, 01:49 PM
Purify them? Are we going to boil them?



Well, no, since I don't agree with that statement myself. That said, I don't think one legislator in fifty could unscramble that tangle of verbiage sufficiently to honestly tell you if they agree with it or not. And, of course, there is no test you could ever possibly devise that would tell you accurately whether someone accepts such a proposition with all their heart anyway. None. But it might be funny to watch a McCain, or a Feinstein, or any number of them trying to figure out what the hell you just said. Very funny indeed.

If you don't feed them they go away.

presence
03-26-2015, 02:03 PM
Purify them? Are we going to boil them?

I didn't know that was an option! YES!!!

Christopher A. Brown
03-26-2015, 02:06 PM
If you don't feed them they go away.


If you don't feed them they go away.

Since you cannot answer this question,

Do you accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable unity adequate to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights?

You suggest evasion for others, and hide the text? Weird.

Christopher A. Brown
03-26-2015, 02:21 PM
I didn't know that was an option! YES!!!

Boil them, . . . in their own evasion oil. Only officials and candidates that are truly fit for office will answer correctly. We will see a few forms of erroneous answers in the beginning. Their shame and embarrassment will be epic. Then the unfit rest will just run, resign, free us.

Stratovarious
03-26-2015, 02:57 PM
"...He added that law enforcement is not generating the same amount of revenue from traffic tickets as it once did, and that’s robbing the high court of funds for operations..."


Yea ? Move your fgn court into a tent you piece of tyrannical ##I# !!!! :hammer:

.>>>>

Stratovarious
03-26-2015, 03:00 PM
I bet this scum wants the Privatized prisons filled so kickbacks can fund his chalet payments.

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GunnyFreedom
03-26-2015, 04:35 PM
Since you cannot answer this question,

Do you accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable unity adequate to alter or abolish government destructive to unalienable rights?

You suggest evasion for others, and hide the text? Weird.
$10,000 says I am an order of magnitude more obsessed with protecting individual rights and liberties, that I am 100 times more strict a Constitutionalist, and I have a record of putting my money where my mouth is, and if you presented me with that gobbledygook I would just stare blank and confused trying to figure out what in tarnation you were getting at.

Dr.3D
03-26-2015, 05:09 PM
Purify them? Are we going to boil them?

And then strain em?

acesfull
03-26-2015, 05:16 PM
How do traffic fines and fees support the higher courts? I was of the opinion that such violations supported only the municipal courts where the complaints were heard... Either way, IT IS HIGHWAY ROBBERY.

My .02

Acesfull

phill4paul
03-26-2015, 05:17 PM
$10,000 says I am an order of magnitude more obsessed with protecting individual rights and liberties, that I am 100 times more strict a Constitutionalist, and I have a record of putting my money where my mouth is, and if you presented me with that gobbledygook I would just stare blank and confused trying to figure out what in tarnation you were getting at.

Don't bother. He has been away for awhile. He'll go away again if you don't engage him.

DamianTV
03-26-2015, 05:30 PM
So what is the message here? "We need them to give us tickets, entrap us, set us up, and confiscate our property to support THEIR existence?" Perhaps the real solution is to acknowledge that we do NOT need them as much as they say we need them? Maybe it isnt that they have a "Lack of Revenue" problem, but a "Spending Problem"? Maybe they have way more Cops than people that commit REAL crimes? Maybe they are dreaming up new crimes just for the sake of depriving more people of their property for victimless crimes to validate their existence? Maybe the corruption starts at the top, not at the botom? Maybe things would be worse off, but only for them if they were not able to fund themselves through flat out theft? Mabye it is our Belief in their constant statements that "we need them" that is at the very heart of our problem?

The most powerful ability of every Leader is to make those that listen believe that the thoughts of the Leader are the thoughts of the Listener. It is when "You want this" becomes "I want this" in the minds of the subjects that they have "won". Monopoly of Belief that we need their Monopoly on Violence and Monopoly on Money.

Guess what, we really DONT NEED THEM as much as they would have us Believe.

RJB
03-26-2015, 05:48 PM
NV Chief Justice says that Court will Go Broke unless cops write more tickets

This "Justice" needs to understand that in this economy, it is Nevadans who go broke paying their extortion so he can get his +quarter million dollars salary for racketeering.

GunnyFreedom
03-26-2015, 05:53 PM
This "Justice" needs to understand that in this economy, it is Nevadans who go broke paying their extortion so he can get his +quarter million dollars salary for racketeering.

This should have people up in riots. Of course it won't. Every day it gets a little bit harder to talk myself out of the apathy of the position "they deserve it. All of it. Let it come."

DamianTV
03-26-2015, 08:42 PM
This "Justice" needs to understand that in this economy, it is Nevadans who go broke paying their extortion so he can get his +quarter million dollars salary for racketeering.

While most Nevadans make less than 25k a year. Nevada is heavily dependant on Casinos, which are notorious for paying jack shit for even skilled trades. Slot machines have gotten exceptionally advanced, Accounting, etc. They typically pay dismal wages compared to other industries, and are completely Anti Union.

idiom
03-27-2015, 08:20 AM
Why doesn't your country donate 100% of ticket revenue to charity like any other country?

I should also mention, here you don't go to a DMV, all licensing and things are outsourced to a car enthusiast club that has run on memberships since the early 1900's. Its incredibly painless and efficient place to visit. They are all really nice there.

They started doing drivers licences before the government to fill a market need for certificates of competence.