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jasongpeirce
03-13-2015, 04:40 PM
(First published at Voices of Liberty: http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/the-fiscal-gap-why-were-the-most-insolvent-of-developed-nations/)

Esteemed economist Larry Kotlikoff warned the Senate Budget Committee last month that Greece is more solvent than the United States.

Kotlikoff identified the “fiscal gap” as the most important and telling measurement for gauging the health of an economy. The fiscal gap is “the difference between our government’s projected financial obligations and the present value of all projected future tax and other receipts.” The projected financial obligations are also known as “unfunded liabilities” such as future Social Security payouts. At $210 trillion, the U.S.’s fiscal gap is higher than many of the world’s economic basket cases.


Kotlikoff furthered: “The first point I want to get across is that our nation is broke. Our nation’s broke, and it’s not broke in 75 years or 50 years or 25 years or 10 years. It’s broke today. Indeed, it may well be in worse fiscal shape than any developed country, including Greece…”
Broke? Well, how did the U.S. essentially bankrupt itself? In short, politics and normalcy bias.


Explains economist Gary North (covering Kotlikoff’s address):

“I suspect, most Congressmen really don’t understand it (the fiscal gap). They have been able to kick the can, decade after decade, and they assume that they will be able to do this in the future. Nothing bad has happened so far, so they assume that nothing bad will ever happen… Congress doesn’t care. The President doesn’t care. The AARP doesn’t care. The voters don’t care. Investors in Treasury bonds don’t care. It is all distant. Anything that is beyond two years out is not considered an important factor. The attention span of the public is short. The attention span of the media is short. Anything longer than the next Congressional election is considered long-term. Politicians don’t care about the long-term. They care about getting reelected. A budgetary strategy of hiking taxes and reducing benefits is a sure-fire way not to get re-elected.”
Thinking the implications through, the point must be made that the reason the U.S.’s essential bankruptcy is not yet as visible as Detroit’s – or Greece’s — is because the Federal Reserve “prints” dollars out of thin air, which allows the federal government to keep borrowing and spending. This cannot go on in perpetuity.


The rest of the world has been waking up to this fact. China has been making a push to replace the dollar as the world’s reserve currency for some time. And even “allies” like the UK are beginning to comprehend which way the wind is blowing. According to Financial Times, the UK has decided to become the first G7 nation to join China’s new Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank. This has riled the U.S.: “The Obama administration accused the UK of a ‘constant accommodation’ of China after Britain decided to join a new China-led financial institution that could rival the World Bank.”
http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/the-fiscal-gap-why-were-the-most-insolvent-of-developed-nations/

Ronin Truth
03-13-2015, 05:25 PM
Would the US Federal government happen to have anything to do with why?

enhanced_deficit
03-14-2015, 06:30 AM
On the bright side, we have made huge human/financial sacrifices for freedoms spreads in Iraq and Afghanistan to the point of gambling away the future of grand children. That is some serious freedom dedication!


http://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/2012/04/Federal_Debt.png


U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 22 Feb 2015 at 08:48:47 PM GMT is:



http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/debtiv.gif





The estimated population of the United States is 320,058,595
so each citizen's share of this debt is $56,694.22.

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

Ronin Truth
03-14-2015, 08:04 AM
~20% of taxpayers pay ~80% of taxes.

KingNothing
03-19-2015, 10:19 AM
This isn't true. Or rather, it doesn't tell a full story.

We have the most debt. Ok. And? We also have the best GDP on earth, the strongest military on earth, the most natural resources on earth, the best educated and most creative workforce on earth, the most investment capital on earth, etc. etc. We have a higher productive capacity than everyone else, we have a diverse economy, and we have stable political and monetary systems. We're not in optimal shape, but we're in better shape than everyone else.

Look at what is happening to the euro now. Look at what Sweden is doing. Look at what is happening in oil producing nations. Look at what is happening to the BRICs, and the PIIGS. They would all love to be in our situation.

KingNothing
03-19-2015, 10:22 AM
Dupe. Apologies.

Zippyjuan
03-19-2015, 12:58 PM
Based on debt to GDP ratios- we don't make the Top Ten (Number 13 actually). Figures for 2014. http://www.statista.com/statistics/268177/countries-with-the-highest-public-debt/

Weston White
03-19-2015, 01:08 PM
This isn't true. Or rather, it doesn't tell a full story.

We have the most debt. Ok. And? We also have the best GDP on earth, the strongest military on earth, the most natural resources on earth, the best educated and most creative workforce on earth, the most investment capital on earth, etc. etc. We have a higher productive capacity than everyone else, we have a diverse economy, and we have stable political and monetary systems. We're not in optimal shape, but we're in better shape than everyone else.

Look at what is happening to the euro now. Look at what Sweden is doing. Look at what is happening in oil producing nations. Look at what is happening to the BRICs, and the PIIGS. They would all love to be in our situation.

I could be wrong, but at one time or another Rome and Germany believed the exact same thing, and Great Britain more so than once. ...Perhaps even China too.

Slave Mentality
03-19-2015, 04:50 PM
This isn't true. Or rather, it doesn't tell a full story.

We have the most debt. Ok. And? We also have the best GDP on earth, the strongest military on earth, the most natural resources on earth, the best educated and most creative workforce on earth, the most investment capital on earth, etc. etc. We have a higher productive capacity than everyone else, we have a diverse economy, and we have stable political and monetary systems. We're not in optimal shape, but we're in better shape than everyone else.

Look at what is happening to the euro now. Look at what Sweden is doing. Look at what is happening in oil producing nations. Look at what is happening to the BRICs, and the PIIGS. They would all love to be in our situation.

Everything is just hunky dory man. Holy shit.

heavenlyboy34
03-19-2015, 06:22 PM
This isn't true. Or rather, it doesn't tell a full story.

We have the most debt. Ok. And? We also have the best GDP on earth, the strongest military on earth, the most natural resources on earth, the best educated and most creative workforce on earth, the most investment capital on earth, etc. etc. We have a higher productive capacity than everyone else, we have a diverse economy, and we have stable political and monetary systems. We're not in optimal shape, but we're in better shape than everyone else.

Look at what is happening to the euro now. Look at what Sweden is doing. Look at what is happening in oil producing nations. Look at what is happening to the BRICs, and the PIIGS. They would all love to be in our situation.

best schooled=/=best educated. American students typically are far behind their age group peers abroad in math, science, history, and literacy.