911 Commissioners Spoke of Obstruction and Cover-Ups During Investigation

[AuH20]

Now this is the stuff that would grab the public's attention.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-12/911-commissioners-were-conspiracy-theorists

[Ronin Truth]

And then decided by a secret majority committee vote that it was a really good idea. Because after all, it had worked out pretty well and for a long time for the Warren Commission and the Pearl Harbor investigations.

[dannno]

The tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building as shown by this NY Times article (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view) and by this article from the Chicago Sun-Times

Just a coincidence.

[Zippyjuan]

Ron Paul: http://libertyfight.com/ronpaul911.html


Steve Gill: Do you think the American government, the U.S. government, had anything to do with bringing those towers down either directly or allowing it to happen?

Ron Paul: I think indirectly out of ineptness rather than participating in it, planning it or allowing it to happen. I see it's ineptness - that's why I think the investigations are always coverup of the inefficiency of government. ....that's why I don't trust the investigations. But you know, the neocons were very explicit even before 9/11 that it would be an advantage if they had a Pearl Harbor type of an event where they could move their foreign policy along and use that as an excuse. That doesn't mean there's evidence that they planned it. You know, I don't think you can go from one step to the other. But if certain events occur, they can make good use of it.

[Ronin Truth]

Cui bono?

[Mach]

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/

Lots of integrated Links at the site.


9/11 Commissioners Admit They Never Got the Full Story

The 9/11 Commissioners publicly expressed anger at cover ups and obstructions of justice by the government into a real 9/11 investigation:

9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says “I don’t believe for a minute we got everything right”, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, and that the 9/11 debate should continue

The 9/11 Commission chair said the Commission was “set up to fail”

The Commission’s co-chairs said that the CIA (and likely the White House) “obstructed our investigation”

9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn’t have access . . . .”

9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting”

9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: “It is a national scandal”; “This investigation is now compromised”; and “One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up”. When asked in 2009 if he thought there should be another 9/11 commission, Cleland responded: “There should be about fifteen 9/11 commissions”

The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) – who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry – said “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened“. He also said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”

No wonder the Co-Chair of the congressional investigation into 9/11 – Bob Graham – and 9/11 Commissioner and former Senator Bob Kerrey are calling for either a “PERMANENT 9/11 commission” or a new 9/11 investigation to get to the bottom of it.

Some examples of obstruction of justice into the 9/11 investigation include:

An FBI informant hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000. Specifically, investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had hosted and even rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House. As the New York Times notes:

Senator Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who is a former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, accused the White House on Tuesday of covering up evidence ….The accusation stems from the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s refusal to allow investigators for a Congressional inquiry and the independent Sept. 11 commission to interview an informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, who had been the landlord in San Diego of two Sept. 11 hijackers.

The chairs of both the 9/11 Commission and the Official Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 said that Soviet-style government “minders” obstructed the investigation into 9/11 by intimidating witnesses (and see this)

The 9/11 Commissioners concluded that officials from the Pentagon lied to the Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements

The tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building as shown by this NY Times article (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view) and by this article from the Chicago Sun-Times

As reported by ACLU, FireDogLake, RawStory and many others, declassified documents shows that Senior Bush administration officials sternly cautioned the 9/11 Commission against probing too deeply into the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001

Both the 9/11 Commission Investigation and 9/11 Trials Were Based on Unreliable Evidence Produced by Torture

The CIA videotaped the interrogation of 9/11 suspects, falsely told the 9/11 Commission that there were no videotapes or other records of the interrogations, and then illegally destroyed all of the tapes and transcripts of the interrogations.

9/11 Commission co-chairs Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton wrote:

Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our investigation.

The chief lawyer for Guantanamo litigation – Vijay Padmanabhan – said that torture of 9/11 suspects was widespread.

And Susan J. Crawford – the senior Pentagon official overseeing the military commissions at Guantánamo told Bob Woodward:

We tortured Qahtani. His treatment met the legal definition of torture.

Indeed, some of the main sources of information were tortured right up to the point of death.

Moreover, the type of torture used by the U.S. on the Guantanamo suspects is of a special type. Senator Levin revealed that the the U.S. used Communist torture techniques specifically aimed at creating false confessions. (and see this, this, this and this).

And according to NBC News:

Much of the 9/11 Commission Report was based upon the testimony of people who were tortured

At least four of the people whose interrogation figured in the 9/11 Commission Report have claimed that they told interrogators information as a way to stop being “tortured”

One of the Commission’s main sources of information was tortured until he agreed to sign a confession that he was NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO READ

The 9/11 Commission itself doubted the accuracy of the torture confessions, and yet kept their doubts to themselves

If the 9/11 Commissioners themselves doubt the information from the government, why should we believe it?

[Ronin Truth]

Then what the hell is with the phony BS commission report for 14 years? :p :mad:

[Brian4Liberty]

The Commission Report was always a whitewash.

[jmdrake]

Then what the hell is with the phony BS commission report for 14 years? :p :mad:

And that's why the original 21st century tea party was throwing the 9/11 commission report into the Boston harbor. There will be no real liberty in this country as long as the 9/11 lie is allowed to continue.

[Ronin Truth]

And that's why the original 21st century tea party was throwing the 9/11 commission report into the Boston harbor. There will be no real liberty in this country as long as the 9/11 lie is allowed to continue.

Well I really hate to rain on your parade, but the Warren Commission and Pearl Harbor megalies seem to remain intact.

[jmdrake]

Well I really hate to rain on your parade, but the Warren Commission and Pearl Harbor megalies seem to remain intact.

If one of the megalies ever fell totally to where people felt safe to openly talk about them without fear then the other megalies would fall as well.

[Mach]

Lots of Declassified 9/11 Documents (declassified doesn't necessarily mean truth)

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB381/



Government Releases Detailed
Information on 9/11 Crashes

Complete Air-Ground Transcripts of Hijacked
9/11 Flight Recordings Declassified

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB196/index.htm





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Homepage has other assorted declassified works.....

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/index.html

Lots of different subject Briefing Books.... dig in....

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/

[The Gold Standard]

Wasn't this in HT? How in the fuck did it escape and see the light of day? What if Republicans come here to Rand Central and see someone accuse the government of such things?