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johnwk
03-04-2015, 07:39 AM
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SEE: Obama Sees an Iran Deal That Could Avoid Congress (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/20/us/politics/obama-sees-an-iran-deal-that-could-avoid-congress-.html?_r=1)

OCT. 19, 2014

”The Treasury Department, in a detailed study it declined to make public, has concluded Mr. Obama has the authority to suspend the vast majority of those sanctions without seeking a vote by Congress, officials say.”

The Treasury Department can say anything it wants to say but nowhere in our Constitution has our Executive branch of government been granted authority to make “deals” with foreign nations without the Senate’s approval, and the language in our Constitution is crystal clear: "The President ... shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur." Additionally, there is nothing in our Constitution allowing the Senate to re-assign its requirement to “concur” with any “deal” negotiated by our President. And Hamilton, in Federalist No. 75, explains why the President was not granted an arbitrary power to make “CONTRACTS with foreign nations, which have the force of law.” He “might sometimes be under temptations to sacrifice his duty to his interest, which it would require superlative virtue to withstand. An avaricious man might be tempted to betray the interests of the state to the acquisition of wealth. An ambitious man might make his own aggrandizement, by the aid of a foreign power, the price of his treachery to his constituents. The history of human conduct does not warrant that exalted opinion of human virtue which would make it wise in a nation to commit interests of so delicate and momentous a kind, as those which concern its intercourse with the rest of the world, to the sole disposal of a magistrate created and circumstanced as would be a President of the United States.”


Aside from the clear language in our Constitution requiring the Senate to concur with any deal negotiated by our President, and the expressed intentions stated by Hamilton for requiring the Senate’s approval, Townhall tells us How Obama Will Bypass Congress On His Iranian Nuclear Arms Deal (http://townhall.com/tipsheet/conncarroll/2015/03/03/can-obama-sign-a-nuclear-treaty-with-iran-without-senate-approval-n1964687): Obama will claim that his deal with Iran is not a treaty but a "sole executive agreement" that requires no approval from Congress. Of course, there is no such authority found in our Constitution granting a “sole executive agreement” power to the executive, and as Hamilton defines the treaty making power as a contract with a foreign nation which has the “force of law”, any deal negotiated with Iran by our President must be approved of by the Senate as commanded by our Constitution!

So why is FoxNews saying “The question now is whether lawmakers would be able to throw up any roadblocks to a potential Iran agreement.”? SEE: Netanyahu makes last-ditch bid to stop Obama from doing nuke deal with Iran (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/03/03/netanyahu-faces-dem-ire-in-wake-iran-address/)

To even suggest that Obama has authority to finalize a deal with Iran without the Senate’s approve is very, very suspicious indeed!

JWK



The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. ___ Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47

Carlybee
03-04-2015, 07:53 AM
Apparently he can do any damned thing he wants and Congress doesn't do anything about it.

jmdrake
03-04-2015, 08:05 AM
The one drawback to having a republican led senate. Sanctions against Iran are a dumb idea.

pcosmar
03-04-2015, 08:46 AM
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To even suggest that Obama has authority to finalize a deal with Iran without the Senate’s approve is very, very suspicious indeed!

JWK



Well, Warhawk..
Though I agree he does not have the authority,, why is it a bad idea?

The sanctions are a very bad idea. Peace with Iran is a very good idea.

And Netanyahu can go suck eggs.

And Faux Snooze is still beating war drums.

Ender
03-04-2015, 11:12 AM
Well, Warhawk..
Though I agree he does not have the authority,, why is it a bad idea?

The sanctions are a very bad idea. Peace with Iran is a very good idea.

And Netanyahu can go suck eggs.

And Faux Snooze is still beating war drums.

In absolute agreement!

AuH20
03-04-2015, 11:13 AM
The one drawback to having a republican led senate. Sanctions against Iran are a dumb idea.

If it can prevent that idiot from launching a preemptive attack on their nuclear facility in Natanz, it's not so bad an idea. There are only bad options and very bad options left.

ZENemy
03-04-2015, 11:19 AM
He signed the NDAA which gives him the ability to kill anyone, anytime...anywhere...


its safe to say, he can do what he wants.

IMPEACH THE THRONE.

69360
03-04-2015, 11:46 AM
Don't you get it by now, Obama can do whatever he wants, because he is Obama.

pcosmar
03-04-2015, 11:50 AM
Don't you get it by now, Obama can do whatever he wants, because he is Obama.

I thought that was Bush..

or Clinton,, or Bush,, or Reagan.... (or was that Bush again?)




IMPEACH THE THRONE.

yeah^^ this

NIU Students for Liberty
03-04-2015, 04:25 PM
If it means bypassing Israel's manipulation and preventing the idiots in the Senate from throwing more sanctions on Iran, so be it.

69360
03-04-2015, 04:58 PM
I thought that was Bush..

or Clinton,, or Bush,, or Reagan.... (or was that Bush again?)



yeah^^ this

Reagan and Bush(es)were marginally better. At least they went to congress and got approval for their foreign (mis)adventures.

H. E. Panqui
03-04-2015, 05:50 PM
69360 becks and limbaughs: Reagan and Bush(es)were marginally better. At least they went to congress and got approval for their foreign (mis)adventures.

:rolleyes:

YIKES!!...what are you republican cheerleaders smoking up there in maine!?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan

...In 1986, a scandal shook the administration stemming from the use of proceeds from covert arms sales to Iran to fund the Contras (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contras) in Nicaragua, which had been specifically outlawed by an act of Congress.[233] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-I-C-233)[234] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-234) The Iran–Contra affair (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair)became the largest political scandal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_S tates) in the United States during the 1980s.[235] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-235) The International Court of Justice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Court_of_Justice), whose jurisdiction to decide the case was disputed by the United States,[236] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-236) ruled that the United States had violated international law and breached treaties in Nicaragua in various ways (see Nicaragua v. United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v._United_States)).[237] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-237)[238] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-238)
President Reagan professed ignorance of the plot's existence. He appointed two Republicans and one Democrat (John Tower (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tower), Brent Scowcroft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Scowcroft) and Edmund Muskie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Muskie), known as the "Tower Commission") to investigate the scandal. The commission could not find direct evidence that Reagan had prior knowledge of the program, but criticized him heavily for his disengagement from managing his staff, making the diversion of funds possible.[239] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-mixed_WH-239) A separate report by Congress concluded that "If the president did not know what his national security advisers were doing, he should have".[239] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-mixed_WH-239) Reagan's popularity declined from 67% to 46% in less than a week, the greatest and quickest decline ever for a president.[240] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-240) The scandal resulted in fourteen indictments within Reagan's staff, and eleven convictions.[241] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-241)
Many Central Americans criticize Reagan for his support of the Contras, calling him an anti-communist zealot, blinded to human rights abuses, while others say he "saved Central America".[242] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-CA-242) Daniel Ortega (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ortega), Sandinistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandinista_National_Liberation_Front) and president of Nicaragua, said that he hoped God would forgive Reagan for his "dirty war against Nicaragua".[242] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-CA-242).....

Under a policy that came to be known as the Reagan Doctrine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_Doctrine), Reagan and his administration also provided overt and covert aid to anti-communist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-communist)resistance movements (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare) in an effort to "rollback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollback)" Soviet-backed communist governments in Africa, Asia, and Latin America.[189] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-189) Reagan deployed the CIA's Special Activities Division (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Activities_Division) to Afghanistan and Pakistan. They were instrumental in training, equipping and leading Mujaheddin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mujaheddin) forces against the Soviet Army (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Army).[190] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-Crile_2003-190)[191] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-191) President Reagan's Covert Action program has been given credit for assisting in ending the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan,[192] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-192) though some of the United States funded armaments introduced then would later pose a threat to U.S. troops in the 2000s (decade) war in Afghanistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%93present)).[193 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan#cite_note-193)...



GHW Bush:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush

PanamaMain article: United States invasion of Panama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_invasion_of_Panama)
In the 1980s, Panamanian leader Manuel Noriega (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Noriega), a once U.S.-supportive leader who was later accused of spying (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage) forFidel Castro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro) and using Panama to traffic drugs into the United States, was one of the most recognizable names in America and was constantly in the press. The struggle to remove him from power began in the Reagan administration, when economic sanctions were imposed on the country; this included prohibiting American companies and government from making payments to Panama and freezing $56 million in Panamanian funds in American banks. Reagan sent more than 2,000 American troops to Panama as well.[74] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush#cite_note-rutgers-74) Unlike Reagan, Bush was able to remove Noriega from power, but his administration's unsuccessful post-invasion planning hindered the needs of Panama during the establishment of the young democratic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy) government.[75] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush#cite_note-texas-75)
In May 1989, Panama held democratic elections, in which Guillermo Endara (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillermo_Endara) was elected president; the results were then annulled by Noriega's government. In response, Bush sent 2,000 more troops to the country, where they began conducting regular military exercises in Panamanian territory (in violation of prior treaties). Bush then removed an embassy and ambassador (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_ambassador) from the country, and dispatched additional troops to Panama to prepare the way for an upcoming invasion.[74] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush#cite_note-rutgers-74) Noriega suppressed an October military coup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_coup) attempt and massive protests in Panama against him, but after a U.S. serviceman was shot by Panamanian forces in December 1989, Bush ordered 24,000 troops into the country with an objective of removing Noriega from power;[76] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush#cite_note-secdef-76) "Operation Just Cause" was a large-scale American military operation, and the first in more than 40 years that was not related to the Cold War.[75] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush#cite_note-texas-75)
The mission was controversial, but American forces achieved control of the country and Endara assumed the Presidency.[77] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush#cite_note-77) Noriega surrendered to the United States and was convicted and imprisoned on racketeering (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeering) and drug trafficking charges in April 1992.[78] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush#cite_note-78) President Bush and First Lady Barbara Bush visited Panama in June 1992, to give support to the first post-invasion Panamanian government.

NIU Students for Liberty
03-04-2015, 06:22 PM
Reagan and Bush(es)were marginally better. At least they went to congress and got approval for their foreign (mis)adventures.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA32i2MVT9E

Stratovarious
03-04-2015, 06:41 PM
The Muslim idiot in the White House is under Sharia Law , he no need no steenkn' Constitutions' .

H. E. Panqui
03-04-2015, 07:06 PM
...and ?your stinking republicans are under roth$child law..they abide no steeeenking constitution either...;)

Stratovarious
03-04-2015, 07:59 PM
...and ?your stinking republicans are under roth$child law..they abide no steeeenking constitution either...;)

Rand Paul is a Constitutionalist in Wolf's clothing, he will bring back the Constitution, otherwise yes , I agree the party is a sham.

enhanced_deficit
03-04-2015, 11:22 PM
Obama does not have power to make nuke deal with Iran!

In that case, just make a deal with Israel on Israeli nuke program and cal it a day. No need for ddg to go where upper management doesn't allow him to wander.

cindy25
03-05-2015, 02:34 AM
why does Iran need US permission to have nukes? Israel didn't ask permission, Pakistan didn't ask permission, USSR and China didn't ask permission.

pcosmar
03-05-2015, 07:34 AM
Reagan and Bush(es)were marginally better. At least they went to congress and got approval for their foreign (mis)adventures.

Iran Contra scandal.

Want to try again?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

johnwk
03-05-2015, 08:35 AM
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I'm not sure what is meant by our big media when they refer to a treaty as a "deal" . Hamilton in Federalist No. 75 partially defines what is meant when he writes “CONTRACTS with foreign nations, which have the force of law.” To become law they must be agreed to by the Senate. Without the Senate's approval any such "deals" are null and void and carry no force or effect! But don't expect our big media to explain this to the people because our big media is part of a Fifth Column working to destroy America from within!


JWK
Is America being defeated from within without a shot being fired?

pcosmar
03-05-2015, 08:48 AM
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JWK
Is America being defeated from within without a shot being fired?

That happened long ago,, before any of us were born.

Wilson era especially.

johnwk
03-05-2015, 12:59 PM
That happened long ago,, before any of us were born.

Wilson era especially.

You are partially correct. The opportunity still exists for the American People to take back their federal and state governments.


JWK




America will not regain her honor and splendor until the blood of tyrants is made to flow in her streets.

CPUd
03-05-2015, 01:20 PM
as usual the OP is wrong.
the law authorizing sanctions gives the president the authority to end the sanctions

The provisions of this Act (other than section shall terminate, and section 13(c)(1)(B) of the Investment Company Act of 1940, as added by section 203(a), shall cease to be effective, on the date that is 30 days after the date on which the President certifies to Congress that—

Iran has ceased the pursuit, acquisition, and development of nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons and ballistic
missiles and ballistic missile launch technology.


http://www.treasury.gov/resource-cen...nts/hr2194.pdf



http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?2455547-Obama-does-not-have-authority-to-make-nuke-deal-with-Iran!&p=104130456#post104130456

H. E. Panqui
03-05-2015, 05:04 PM
jwk writes: 'The opportunity still exists for the American People to take back their federal and state governments.'

:confused:

(..somewhat precisely. when did 'the American People' lose their federal and state governments and can you name just 5 people (of the thousands) who have held high office in your lifetime whose vision of federal and state government you share?..)

johnwk
03-05-2015, 05:53 PM
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We are talking about a current "deal" being negotiated by Obama.


JWK

johnwk
03-05-2015, 05:57 PM
jwk writes: 'The opportunity still exists for the American People to take back their federal and state governments.'

:confused:

(..somewhat precisely. when did 'the American People' lose their federal and state governments and can you name just 5 people (of the thousands) who have held high office in your lifetime whose vision of federal and state government you share?..)


But we are not talking about my vision. We are talking about our written Constitution and its documented legislative intent being violated by our federal and state governments!

JWK



If the American People do not rise up and defend their existing Constitution and the intentions and beliefs under which it was adopted, who is left to do so but the very people it was designed to control and regulate?

Stratovarious
03-05-2015, 06:07 PM
I blame Congress for not putting a stop to Obama from day one with his Constitution-Crushing Obama Care.
They are to blame for funding and allowing the continuation of: Patriot act, DHS,NSA,TSA, and all of the
unilateral fake laws and acts created by 'His Race Baiting Majesty Golf Whoring Muslim in the White House' .

..

H. E. Panqui
03-05-2015, 09:54 PM
jwk anthropomorphizes: We are talking about our written Constitution and its documented legislative intent being violated by our federal and state governments!


(...in reality, 'governments' don't 'violate'...only real, living people 'violate'...and methinks there have been a lot of individual republicrat violators...what i would like from you is a name(s) of any individual(s) politcian(s) whose actions have best upheld YOUR interpretation of the constitution...

...do you vote?...

Ronin Truth
03-06-2015, 07:48 AM
Sorry Barry, you'll just have to settle for the power to only turn Iran into a sheet of glass. <sniff>

johnwk
03-06-2015, 03:43 PM
jwk anthropomorphizes: We are talking about our written Constitution and its documented legislative intent being violated by our federal and state governments!


(...in reality, 'governments' don't 'violate'...only real, living people 'violate'...and methinks there have been a lot of individual republicrat violators...what i would like from you is a name(s) of any individual(s) politcian(s) whose actions have best upheld YOUR interpretation of the constitution...

...do you vote?...


My interpretation of the Constitution?

JWK

johnwk
03-06-2015, 03:46 PM
Sorry Barry, you'll just have to settle for the power to only turn Iran into a sheet of glass. <sniff>

A-freaken-men! Drop a few bunker buster bombs to close down every facility which Iran is using to create component parts for a nuclear arsenal!


JWK




When will the America People realize we have an Islamic cell operating out of our nation's White House? Will they come to this conclusion when Islamic terrorist activities begin in our southern Border States or cities like New York City?

H. E. Panqui
03-06-2015, 04:24 PM
jwk warmongers: A-freaken-men! Drop a few bunker buster bombs to close down every facility which Iran is using to create component parts for a nuclear arsenal!

:eek:

(...lol!...you republicrats always give yourselves away!...and be careful ronin, some of these old republicans don't get the joke...) ;)

johnwk
03-07-2015, 08:53 AM
jwk warmongers: A-freaken-men! Drop a few bunker buster bombs to close down every facility which Iran is using to create component parts for a nuclear arsenal!

:eek:

(...lol!...you republicrats always give yourselves away!...and be careful ronin, some of these old republicans don't get the joke...) ;)



"republicrats"? Me a "republicrat"! you need some professional help or a reading compression class.


JWK

johnwk
03-07-2015, 08:53 AM
A major problem is, our Fifth Column media, and this includes some of our supposed "conservative" media personalities, are talking about the merits of Obama's deal as if the President actually has the power to negotiate and then finalize a deal with a foreign nation. As pointed out above, Hamilton, in Federalist No. 75, lists a number of reasons why the President was not granted an arbitrary power to make any deals with foreign nations. Even FoxNews and Sean Hannity have not emphasized enough the irrefutable fact that Obama has no such power. WHY?

The only important point to be made at this juncture, and made in such a manner that the entire world is cognizant of the fact, is that Obama does not have authority to finalize any deal with Iran. And without our Senate's approval, any deal made by Obama isn't worth the paper its written on. This is what our Republican controlled Congress ought to be doing right now ___ drawing up a one page Joint Resolution confirming Obama does not have authority to finalize a deal with Iran, and any agreement entered into with Iran by Obama is without force and effect until and if our Senate approves as outlined in our Constitution.

JWK



When will the America People realize we have an Islamic cell operating out of our nation's White House? Will they come to this conclusion when Islamic terrorist activities begin in our southern Border States or cities like New York City?

enhanced_deficit
03-07-2015, 09:09 AM
JWK


When will the America People realize we have an Islamic cell operating out of our nation's White House? Will they come to this conclusion when Islamic terrorist activities begin in our southern Border States or cities like New York City?

After Iraqi freedom, things are going in strange directions. No more freedom spreads in mideast.

New York Becomes First Major City Government to Observe Muslim Holidays (http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/03/06/new-york-becomes-first-major-city-government-to-observe-muslim-holidays/)

March 6, 2015 11:39 am
New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio has announced that his city’s public schools will now close in observance of the two most holy days of the Muslim faith, Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha.
While New York City is not alone is recognizing the Muslim holidays, with other municipalities in Massachusetts, Michigan, and New Jersey giving their students off on those holidays, New York—with its 1.1 million schoolchildren—is the first major metropolitan city to do so.
http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/03/06/new-york-becomes-first-major-city-government-to-observe-muslim-holidays/

H. E. Panqui
03-07-2015, 09:55 AM
jwk protests: "republicrats"? Me a "republicrat"! you need some professional help or a reading compression class.

:eek:
(apparently this ^^ republicrat warmonger cheerleader needs a spelling 'comprehension' class! ;))



jwk teabags: A major problem is, our Fifth Column media, and this includes some of our supposed "conservative" media personalities

:confused:

(...hmmm...so apparently 'some' of 'our' conservative media personalities are ok with jwk...i wish he'd name even one of the ok ones and stop being such a phony, smoke-blowing, 'conservative' republicrat all the time...:p

pcosmar
03-07-2015, 10:14 AM
Even FoxNews and Sean Hannity have not emphasized enough the irrefutable fact that Obama has no such power. WHY?


JWK


Because doing so would highlight that every "R" president has done the same thing..

And when Jeb is enthroned they want him to do the same.

and as much as I would like to see the Constitution followed and respected.. It has not been a reality in my lifetime..and I'm 58.

Stratovarious
03-07-2015, 11:36 AM
Because doing so would highlight that every "R" president has done the same thing..

And when Jeb is enthroned they want him to do the same.

and as much as I would like to see the Constitution followed and respected.. It has not been a reality in my lifetime..and I'm 58.


We gained our independence from British Tyrants and eventually created the Constitution because of
old guys like us that said hell no OPPRESSION and TYRANNY, to that point they had not seen true freedom in their lifetimes....


..

johnwk
03-07-2015, 11:43 AM
Because doing so would highlight that every "R" president has done the same thing..

And when Jeb is enthroned they want him to do the same.

and as much as I would like to see the Constitution followed and respected.. It has not been a reality in my lifetime..and I'm 58.

We are in agreement on this, and I am much older than you!


And why is our Republican controlled Congress not adopting a one page joint resolution confirming Obama does not have authority to finalize a deal with Iran, and that any deal negotiated with Iran by Obama is without force and effect until and if our Senate approves it as outlined in our Constitution?

It seems at every turn, as has just happened with funding Homeland Security, Congress seems to be complicit in Obama's tyranny by standing idle and allowing the Executive to impose his will upon the entire United States in spite of our Constitution's separation of powers.

I have long stated our Republican Party Leadership is working hand in hand with the Democrat Party Leadership to fundamentally transform our country into a despotic form of government in which constitution limits and consent of the governed mean squat!

John Boehner and our Senate's Republican Majority Leader Mitch McConnell are both stealth Democrats and enemies of our constitutionally limited system of government. If they are not immediately remove from leadership positions freedom loving Americans, democrats and republicans, will pay a very, very dear price as will their children and grandchild !

JWK



We are here today and gone tomorrow, but what is most important is what we do in between, and is what our children will inherit and remember us by.

johnwk
03-07-2015, 11:51 AM
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For all those who think this deal stuff is unimportant, keep in mind a vast majority of the America People are fully aware that Iran's object is to produce a nuclear arsenal which would be used to threaten and/or destroy the free world. Obama's object is to give Iran more time to achieve their goal. Everything Obama has done since his election has been to weaken and destroy America and her allies while strengthening America's enemies which was his object from the moment he took office!

The sad truth is, Obama has doubled the federal debt;

He has given aid and comfort to our enemies by releasing them from GITMO;

He is allowing a thousand Islamic "refugees" into the U.S. each month without a requirement to renounce their allegiance to their country of origin, and swear an allegiance to the United States:

He has transferred America’s weapons of defense and military technology to hostile Islamic leaders [the Islamic Brother Hood];

He has stood by and allowed an Islamic terrorist state to move forward with producing the component parts for a nuclear arsenal;

He has allowed our southern border to be invaded by the poverty stricken populations of Mexico and Central America;

He is responsible for undermining our election process by making it easy for ineligible persons to vote;

He has interfered with our nation’s ability to develop our natural resources, namely oil, coal and natural gas to fuel our economy;

He has worked to stifle America’s agricultural industry and ability to produce food under the guise of environmental necessity;

He has intentionally sabotaged our nation’s health care delivery system:

He has blatantly impinged upon the American People’s inalienable right to make their own choices and decisions regarding their health care and medical needs;

He is responsible for a dramatic increase in the number of people receiving food stamps;

He is responsible for a dramatic drop in fulltime employment;

He is responsible for a dramatic increase in the unemployment rate of our nation’s Black youth;

He has used the force of our federal government to tax the paychecks of hard working people living in our nation’s inner cities and then transfer $ billions from our federal treasury to his inner circle friends under the guise of “green energy” [Solyndra/Chevy Volt/Fisker, Exelon, etc.];

He has repeatedly circumvented of our Republican Form of Government by issuing Executive Orders and memorandums;

He has stood by and allowed his Administration to use the force of the federal government to attack "conservatives" who dare to exercise their right to freedom of speech;


Who can truthfully deny Obama is intentionally attempting to destroy America from within?

JWK


When will the America People realize we have an Islamic cell operating out of our nation's White House? Will they come to this conclusion when Islamic terrorist activities begin in our southern Border States or cities like New York City?

TheGrinch
03-07-2015, 12:14 PM
If it means bypassing Israel's manipulation and preventing the idiots in the Senate from throwing more sanctions on Iran, so be it.

Careful. I've seen an awful lot of terrible precedents set because the supporters of the measure said, "who cares, at least it's getting X done". We are supposed to be better than the partisans that will allow any law to be broken if it means their agenda is advanced.

Sure in this case we're on the right side, fighting for peace, but if you excuse it here, then you are helping legitimatize the precedents and power grabs that can lead to things far more scary than even what's being done now.


I'm not really directing this at you specifically BTW. You seem to be taking more of an "it is what it is" view, rather than supporting it, but I thought this all was worth the reminder.

pcosmar
03-07-2015, 12:34 PM
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When will the America People realize we have an Islamic cell operating out of our nation's White House? Will they come to this conclusion when Islamic terrorist activities begin in our southern Border States or cities like New York City?

Even if that was true,, SO What??
I could care less what religion someone claims.

And I have no fear of Islam whatsoever.. despite the constant barrage of islamophobia being pushed by the media and some idiots in pulpits.

It is irrelevant. it is a created boogieman,, to promote war. (and war profits)

I have no issue with immigration..Legal or illegal.. none whatsoever.

That is another over hyped non issue..

There are two problems with this and every other country.. Socialism and Authoritarianism.

when you want to address those,, I will join you.


and BTW
Obama does not run shit.. He does not make decisions,, he decides nothing other than to do as he is told..
The second he does not do exactly as he is told,, his brains will be splattered.
very likely on camera and in public.

Obama is nothing but a face for the media.. A puppet for the show.

H. E. Panqui
03-07-2015, 12:56 PM
jwk reagans: I have long stated our Republican Party Leadership is working hand in hand with the Democrat Party Leadership to fundamentally transform our country into a despotic form of government in which constitution limits and consent of the governed mean squat!

:rolleyes:

(...btw, i have long stated that the sky is blue..:)....a little hint for the old, slow, conservative, republican farts around here: ...'the constitution' has been a dead letter and hasn't meant 'squat' to your stinking republicrats for a long long gd time..even waaay before you old republican farts and the ruse limbaugh show.. ;)

...btw, maybe all you conservative republican sages around here can forgive me for some of my views..i admit i may have succumbed to the islamic-controlled media, the islamic-controlled federal reserve board, the islamic-controlled state and commerce depts., islamic-controlled hollywood, and all the other powerful islamic influences so evident around us all... ;)

CPUd
03-07-2015, 01:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt3s6bZWQeY

johnwk
03-11-2015, 07:31 PM
SEE: Even John Kerry says the Iran deal is not legally binding (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2015/03/11/even-john-kerry-says-the-iran-deal-is-not-legally-binding/)

March 11 at 12:36


”Credit Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.) for raising the issue. Without a letter reminding the White House, Congress and the American people that a deal must be approved by the Senate in order to be binding, we might never have learned from Secretary of State John Kerry that “we are not negotiating a legally binding plan.” Oh, really?”

JWK



When will the America People realize we have an Islamic cell operating out of our nation's White House? Will they come to this conclusion when Islamic terrorist activities begin in our southern Border States or cities like New York City?

cindy25
03-11-2015, 08:29 PM
why is an agreement even needed?

CT4Liberty
03-11-2015, 09:48 PM
Something is bugging me here... I know we can all argue over should we, shouldn't we... does he have the power, does he not have the power...

But what in hell does the Treasury Department have to do with this? First off, aren't they pretty busy around this time of year counting up all their stolen money? Second, even if they didnt have other things to do, what does this have to do with managing our budget ... at best I can see them getting involved with other unnecessary things like trade agreements - but a non-proliferation agreement?